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Anybody know the best kernel for gaming?
soraxsnow said:
Anybody know the best kernel for gaming?
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If you are trying to run an extremely heavy game which needs a great CPU power, go for COW kernel OC, but overclocking may reduce the lifespan of your CPU & GPU and it will lead to a poorer battery life (in fact 1.4GHz is powerful enough, overclocking would make a little lagging game running smoothly, but it wouldn't make a seriously lagging game running smoothly)
Stock XXLM8 may be the best alternative other than COW, which is pretty nice for gaming (according to users), and have quite a nice battery life
Hope it helps and sorry for my bad English
for ICS you can use forfivo kernel v2.2, just overclock till 1516 cuz its enough for playing hard games
The initial Wild Blood 1.0.7 had full effects and it ran bad on Tegra 3 devices (especially the slower ones like the Nexus 7)
Gameloft quickly botched the game with the v1.0.8 update and downgraded most effects to make it run well on Most Tegra 3 device
check this post for screenshots comparison and how to return your game to v1.0.7
Interestingly the game runs well on stock 2.17 kernel with gaming boost, yet it runs very bad on the One X gaming optimized kernels like Faux, Tegrastats revealed it's using only one core, without gaming boost it rarely crossed 50% load and with boost it rarely crosses 82% load, in other words this game is not using the Tegra 3 CPU at all
Not only it doesn't even begin to use the CPU, Gameloft still fails to optimize their games for the Tegra 3 GPU shortcomings for example Wildblood has an high level of Anisotropic filtering and our GPU is pixel fill rate bound, a reduction to this filtering could have been enough to relief the GPU instead of killing off all the effects
The very best way to play wildblood v1.0.7 is using the One X base 2.17 stock with gaming boost 2.1 or even better with the custom gaming enhanced stock 2.17 kernel
For some very specific reason it runs perfectly playable on this kernel even with full effects as long as you use gaming boost
However if you like to force this game to run well on custom kernels like faux and franco, continue with the following methods
Since this game and many Gameloft games don't uses Tegra 3 cores, we will want the maximum out of our single core
How to Run Wildblood and many Gameloft games at the maximum possible performance on custom One X kernels
First Method: Dual Core lock
- Download the latest Renovate Gaming boost
- Download any CPU control app like SetCPU
- First Enable boost in the gaming boost app, this will set the maximum background free memory and tweak the GPU
- Then change the CPU Governor to Performance mode using your CPU app, this will lock Tegra 3 to dual core mode at maximum clock speed, since two cores are disabled for safety in this governor you don't have to worry about overheating
Run Wildblood 1.0.7, you will notice it runs at least 2 to 3x the performance of default values
Recommended custom kernel for this method is Faux 11 mainline but also works with stock kernel, make sure you don't use an OC kernel since this method will push the device and you don't want it to overheat
OCed kernel might have issues with this method
Don't use this method and game on the charger otherwise your device might overheat
This tips is for non Tegra optimized games, using it with the THD games will surely cause high heat
Once you are done gaming disable boost mode and restore your CPU governor to ondemand to conserve your battery
Alternative method: Quad Core + Throttle lock
This is a much more aggressive method and will heat the device
for some reason the game runs in full quad core on the userspace governor using faux 12b1 and it runs over 30fps with full effects v1.0.7
we also need an OC kernel like faux' variant free this is because we don't want it to throttle all the way down to 1200MHz which always cause a massive drop in speed, I think its related to linked memory speed, so faux variant free or ultra or beta, will throttle to 1350
I didn't try any other kernel like stock but Franco doesn't have userspace and ondemand is only single core on this game, the stock kernel has userspace but I didn't try
so using faux 12b1 enable gaming boost 2.1
using setcpu or ur fav CPU app switch to userpace gov and Noop scheduler
set the min and max clock to 1400, this will lock to the throttle speed of 1350mhz at full quad
run the game and be surprised
u can reduce the lock a little if u feel its too hot, but don't set min below 900 because this governor has a mind if its own
In theory this should also work on stock kernel but it will lock to throttle speed of 1200mhz at full quad
Don't use this method and game on the charger otherwise your device might overheat
This tips is for non Tegra optimized games, using it with the THD games will surely cause high heat
Once you are done gaming disable boost mode and restore your CPU governor to ondemand to conserve your battery
This is cool to use on stock kernels?
Nice tip thanks hammy! XD
Any other CPU tuners worth mentioning? I'm skint atm and cant afford to pay for it XD
The-Last-Hylian said:
This is cool to use on stock kernels?
Nice tip thanks hammy! XD
Any other CPU tuners worth mentioning? I'm skint atm and cant afford to pay for it XD
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yes tons of free CPU apps just search in google store, system tuner is one of them
AND YES it works on stock kernel, although it beyond me why you insist on not trying a custom kernel like faux (2 to 3x the frame rate in Beach buggy)
hamdir said:
yes tons of free CPU apps just search in google store, system tuner is one of them
AND YES it works on stock kernel, although it beyond me why you insist on not trying a custom kernel like faux (2 to 3x the frame rate in Beach buggy)
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TBH I can't seem to ever get round to flashing a custom kernel, also I'm still not 100% confident enough to do it. I'm not sure on which kernel to flash tbh and I'll be jumping up to ARHD 11.1 soon so don't see the point until after then.
I haven't played beach buggy yet.
Nice tip, thanks a lot!
This method is working perfectly for Faux 11 mainline and the device remains so cool :laugh:
Hamdir,
It's possible to get full effects whit v1.0.8?
What for?
This update addresses performance problems experienced by some users on Tegra 3 devices (including Nexus 7).
The update is NOT required for non-Tegra devices.
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They've changed only graphics, this update does not contain any bug fixes.
jamm513 said:
Hamdir,
It's possible to get full effects whit v1.0.8?
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+1, updated to 1.0.8 since it went live - would be great if this can be done on this current version.:fingers-crossed:
krohme said:
+1, updated to 1.0.8 since it went live - would be great if this can be done on this current version.:fingers-crossed:
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Both version is same, just for 1.0.8 version, they've decreased the graphic.. so hamdir just giving us how to revert back to 1.0.7 that hold full graphic enable for those have update to 1.0.8. So, this is the way to make it full effect enable.
@nashshafrulrezza im also getting freezes with the game, Faux11 mainline it's but not the kernel because i press home and i can exit the game, so i think there is something wrong with TB back of v1.0.7
extremely fun and smooth though , this method proves the real problem is that Gameloft is not using the CPU well
@everyone else v1.0.8 made the game smooth by killing effects so you don't really need this method, its only for those who want to play it with full effects enabled on v1.0.7
hamdir said:
@nashshafrulrezza im also getting freezes with the game, Faux11 mainline it's but not the kernel because i press home and i can exit the game, so i think there is something wrong with TB back of v1.0.8
extremely fun and smooth thought , this method proves the real problem is that Gameloft is not using the CPU well
@everyone else v1.0.8 made the game smooth by killing effects so you don't really need this method, its only for those who want to play it with full effects enabled on v1.0.7
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Guess you out of luck too hamdir. Have you try it with franco? I'm not in mood to change kernel today, so hoping for others to report it.
nashshafrulrezza said:
Guess you out of luck too hamdir. Have you try it with franco? I'm not in mood to change kernel today, so hoping for others to report it.
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no im sure it's the games fault, i remembered it also happened pre 1.0.8 update while i can play beach buggy with this method and it gets very hot but rock stable
plus didn't you hear? faux 11 mainline is now glued to my one X until JB source is released, me and my One X are exhausted :laugh:
hold on, i just remembered i have UV50, so next time i play ill try with out UV
anyway i don't think its the kernel fault, if the kernel the entire device would freeze and not just the game
hamdir said:
no im sure it's the games fault, i remembered it also happened pre 1.0.8 update while i can play beach buggy with this method and it gets very hot but rock stable
plus didn't you hear? faux 11 mainline is now glued to my one X until JB source is released, me and my One X are exhausted :laugh:
hold on, i just remembered i have UV50, so next time i play ill try with out UV
anyway i don't think its the kernel fault, if the kernel the entire device would freeze and not just the game
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It just the same.. already try it without uv and it really working great at 1st.. then when it comes to lot monster stage.. the game hang as before.
Agree.. it's the game could be.. just need anyone to test it with latest franco.. cause before this, franco kernel working better when it comes to wildblood.. Maybe we'll found out an answer to this freeze problem.
BTW, I don't want to glued my HOX yet.. Still hoping for better gaming experienced. Not because gaming experienced is bad with our HOX but I'm just hoping gaming will last longer with our HOX, maybe same as iphone.
nashshafrulrezza said:
It just the same.. already try it without uv and it really working great at 1st.. then when it comes to lot monster stage.. the game hang as before.
Agree.. it's the game could be.. just need anyone to test it with latest franco.. cause before this, franco kernel working better when it comes to wildblood.. Maybe we'll found out an answer to this freeze problem.
BTW, I don't want to glued my HOX yet.. Still hoping for better gaming experienced. Not because gaming experienced is bad with our HOX but I'm just hoping gaming will last longer with our HOX, maybe same as iphone.
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will last with all the focus Tegra is getting and not even a word about Tegra 4 so far
why dont u try Franco for us
but correct me if im wrong, when you had franco and no trouble before, you were using your own v1.0.8 and not my 1.0.7 TB
I did the tweaks: Enable Boost and Performance Mode
Beach Buggy Blitz is much smoother at full resolution. But the device still gets overheated I can blame either the chip in 'my' One x or like other people said the jb builds heat up while gaming.
I remember when playing beach buggy blitz normally without tweaks, the lag in the tunnel/dark areas was the most. With these tweaks the lag is barely there
Thanks Hamdir!
death__machine said:
I did the tweaks: Enable Boost and Performance Mode
Beach Buggy Blitz is much smoother at full resolution. But the device still gets overheated I can blame either the chip in 'my' One x or like other people said the jb builds heat up while gaming.
I remember when playing beach buggy blitz normally without tweaks, the lag in the tunnel/dark areas was the most. With these tweaks the lag is barely there
Thanks Hamdir!
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While it works great, this tip is not intended for Beach buggy ill make it clear in the first post
beach buggy and other real Tegra games uses the CPU core and GPU pretty well and they get heated as they are with gaming boost
unlike wildblood which is barely pushing the GPU or the CPU, with this tip it remains very cool
so yea this tip is for wildblood 1.0.7 and maybe other non Tegra optimized games like the ones from GL
the JB kernel is confirmed by many as hotter (so far) if they didnt' fix this, our kernel gods will deal with it, of course this means waiting for the kernel source, once the OTA roles out ill be annoying HTC with requests about the kernel source on Elevate
This is why im now happy that my devices has Asian OTA and will gladly update later when the gaming situation is clear
Alright. Thanks once again.
hamdir said:
will last with all the focus Tegra is getting and not even a word about Tegra 4 so far
why dont u try Franco for us
but correct me if im wrong, when you had franco and no trouble before, you were using your own v1.0.8 and not my 1.0.7 TB
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Nope, when I'm using Franco.. I'm owning the one from google play.. I'll test it after finish my work.. I really want to know the result.
nashshafrulrezza said:
Nope, when I'm using Franco.. I'm owning the one from google play.. I'll test it after finish my work.. I really want to know the result.
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oh and maybe we should trying playing it for while without the performance gov on faux, to see if the gov is to blame (i know its hard lol)
I'm new of the forum , but i'm here to ask you guys, what do you think about the new kernel DxEngine??, i think that this kernel is coming out with lots of features for our Xplay that we've never seen before. But i don't know much about the VRam and the GPU Overclock... are those two features safe for our devices?? i read lots of posts about the GPU overclock and all says that's not safe and allocating more memory to the GPU i think it's a good idea, but i've never heard about this. I want to know more about this awesome kernel and for now the post have been closed by the moderators so please reply fast i need more information guys
Bye
p.s.: Sorry for bad english
Enri1196 said:
I'm new of the forum , but i'm here to ask you guys, what do you think about the new kernel DxEngine??, i think that this kernel is coming out with lots of features for our Xplay that we've never seen before. But i don't know much about the VRam and the GPU Overclock... are those two features safe for our devices?? i read lots of posts about the GPU overclock and all says that's not safe and allocating more memory to the GPU i think it's a good idea, but i've never heard about this. I want to know more about this awesome kernel and for now the post have been closed by the moderators so please reply fast i need more information guys
Bye
p.s.: Sorry for bad english
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Well there is someone who tested it and told me that it's working great so far and they get 340 megabytes of ram so thats pretty awesome. I don't know much about the GPU overclock but it should supposedly cause better performance though I don't think I'd like to take risks with it. As l long as it isn't too extreme. Anyways once the kernels released I definitely want to try it and id love to see a jelly bean version as well as a multiboot one
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abdel12345 said:
Well there is someone who tested it and told me that it's working great so far and they get 340 megabytes of ram so thats pretty awesome. I don't know much about the GPU overclock but it should supposedly cause better performance though I don't think I'd like to take risks with it. As l long as it isn't too extreme. Anyways once the kernels released I definitely want to try it and id love to see a jelly bean version as well as a multiboot one
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i wanna try the fast version of the kernel but i'm a little bit scaried of the overclock to the GPU 245 (Stock) -->> 260 (Overclock) but like you i think that will improve performance a lot and maybe quality cause of the more ram allocated to the GPU (correct me if i'm wrong) 4MB (Stock) -->> 8MB (DxEngine), the cpu it's not a problem 'cause i won't overclock it more than 1.6ghz. Is it possible to make a kernel where i can choose the frequncies??? Where i can get the control of the GPU?? In CPU Master there is an option called GPU control, but i can't use it 'cause of the kernel of course
im using at for now
but you cant make vidoes in this version that is available for test now
and i also overclocked to 2ghz(i havnt touched 1.7ghz before)
I am booting into windows now to flash it... (Beta 419mb Kernel) I will report back after some gaming and stuffs,
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pedyvirus said:
im using at for now
but you cant make vidoes in this version that is available for test now
and i also overclocked to 2ghz(i havnt touched 1.7ghz before)
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Does it work with CM9?
for now its only gb version
pedyvirus said:
im using at for now
but you cant make vidoes in this version that is available for test now
and i also overclocked to 2ghz(i havnt touched 1.7ghz before)
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well, i think you've flashed the one with the overclocked GPU, right?? if it's right, please tell me that for now it's all ok for you and all you can notice is that the performance are improved in gaming XD
Pizza_Dox said:
I am booting into windows now to flash it... (Beta 419mb Kernel) I will report back after some gaming and stuffs,
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hehe i won't flash that kernel because i don't want to lose the completely the camera XD i think i'll go for the fast version
well i dont game too much and the rom that im using is not a agming rom too(nxt gb 2)
so i cant say anything about gaming but yes im using the one with overclocked gpu
Enri1196 said:
hehe i won't flash that kernel because i don't want to lose the completely the camera XD i think i'll go for the fast version
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Lol yea, me 2, but im just testing to see if i should move to it, as i dont use Camera THATT much, and even if i were to it would probably be something Stupidly important, like a Cat, :3
everyone i have some bad news i cant release extremekernel offically because wedgess dosent want me using his sources so i have to rebase on stock and start again which could take another fortnight
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everyone i have some bad news i cant release extremekernel offically because wedgess dosent want me using his sources so i have to rebase on stock and start again which could take another fortnight
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OH my GOD!!! you are telling us that now you have to rebase all kernels and i've to wait more time to see your fast kernel in my Xplay??? D:
extremetempz said:
everyone i have some bad news i cant release extremekernel offically because wedgess dosent want me using his sources so i have to rebase on stock and start again which could take another fortnight
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Aww man that sucks but I guess wedgess has a point since he put a lot of work into them. Anyways good luck with rebasing. Maybe you could use doom kernel as a base if he gives you permission. If you need help testing the rebased version id be happy to
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abdel12345 said:
Aww man that sucks but I guess wedgess has a point since he put a lot of work into them. Anyways good luck with rebasing. Maybe you could use doom kernel as a base if he gives you permission. If you need help testing the rebased version id be happy to
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+1. For GB
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But if wedgess didn't cut the pemission to you to his sources the kernels were all ready to upload and reopen the thread with the links for download??
as i know doomlord will give you permission as gived the permission to wedgess too
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The kernel is one of the best I got 'till now , Every game was fluid and smooth but at about 30 frames or so , but now they are like 50-60 , no micro lags no nothing . I have the extreme edition, and I don't know anything about the gpu modifications only about the overclock , but on lupus v12-full Pacific Rim didn't want to start , just like when u try armv7 games on armv6 it quit simply. Now it's just like the others , fluid and good. I use only 1.7 ghz , I could reach 2.3ghz but only when charging and it got VERY hot.
So : Good kernel , High overclock , GPU overclock (very good) , and good ram. A++ from me for this kernel.
McXeno said:
The kernel is one of the best I got 'till now , Every game was fluid and smooth but at about 30 frames or so , but now they are like 50-60 , no micro lags no nothing . I have the extreme edition, and I don't know anything about the gpu modifications only about the overclock , but on lupus v12-full Pacific Rim didn't want to start , just like when u try armv7 games on armv6 it quit simply. Now it's just like the others , fluid and good. I use only 1.7 ghz , I could reach 2.3ghz but only when charging and it got VERY hot.
So : Good kernel , High overclock , GPU overclock (very good) , and good ram. A++ from me for this kernel.
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Why can't i try this kernel?? XDD i wanna try the fast vesion!! OH MY GOD!!! FAST VERSION IS THE BEST!!!
Fast
480P Recording
2GHz Max Clock
8MB VRAM
398MB Available Ram
Overclocked GPU (260MHz)
TOTALLY WORTH IT!!
Enri1196 said:
Why can't i try this kernel?? XDD i wanna try the fast vesion!! OH MY GOD!!! FAST VERSION IS THE BEST!!!
Fast
480P Recording
2GHz Max Clock
8MB VRAM
398MB Available Ram
Overclocked GPU (260MHz)
TOTALLY WORTH IT!!
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Yes I know , It has best balance for a gamer , but I think only the extreme is developed enough to test , my play anyway can't reach 1.9ghz+ without charging so when it's done i'll go with it . I think of dissasembling it and clean and may be implement something of a cooling hole for the cpu but it think it's not the best idea , anyway i did with my s1 in the past (only cleaning) and it gave about 100-200 mhz more .
EDIT: http://peer.ccsd.cnrs.fr/docs/00/67/53/99/PDF/PEER_stage2_10.1016%2Fj.applthermaleng.2010.06.002.pdf
A good read if anyone is interested.
Guys really i can't understand why GPU OC on our device doesen't work... In the other devices it works with a super performance improvement, but with Xperia Play the performance fell to the ground in 0,2 sec. really i can't understand it. Maybe my brain can't understand xD please someone who is very, but very nice can explain this to me??? why the other devices get performance and Xperia play doesn't?? it becomes unstable
hi guys , since i got my HTC one x , i always looking for a way to increase my phone performance , as you know the HOX has a less performance as it should have . but in net or somewhere else i see some peoples gets so better performance than my device . in example if you download antutu benchmark x edition that says this version is for stoping cheats , there is some peoples that gets 28000 , 19000 and ... score in antutu but on my device i can't get more than 10800 , how it is possible which rom they use for getting this amazing performance ? i tried so many Roms and even i worked hard on Overclocking using deferent Governers and ... but i just got a bit more performance and it was not so much .
so do you think all this peoples cheats or there is any way for it ? HOX always lags on games , like asphalt 8 , it's not too lagy but still lags and i just searching for a rom or a kernel that gives me better performance as the others get . so can anybody help me how to do it ? which rom is faster , i mean not just in Benchmarks like CM roms , i need really better FPS on games . is there any way ?
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hi guys , since i got my HTC one x , i always looking for a way to increase my phone performance , as you know the HOX has a less performance as it should have . but in net or somewhere else i see some peoples gets so better performance than my device . in example if you download antutu benchmark x edition that says this version is for stoping cheats , there is some peoples that gets 28000 , 19000 and ... score in antutu but on my device i can't get more than 10800 , how it is possible which rom they use for getting this amazing performance ? i tried so many Roms and even i worked hard on Overclocking using deferent Governers and ... but i just got a bit more performance and it was not so much .
so do you think all this peoples cheats or there is any way for it ? HOX always lags on games , like asphalt 8 , it's not too lagy but still lags and i just searching for a rom or a kernel that gives me better performance as the others get . so can anybody help me how to do it ? which rom is faster , i mean not just in Benchmarks like CM roms , i need really better FPS on games . is there any way ?
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No they are not cheat just they use custom kernel with OC on the GPU and boost the max freq to 1,5GHz on all cores. The OC is not only change governor have lot more things
Thant said:
No they are not cheat just they use custom kernel with OC on the GPU and boost the max freq to 1,5GHz on all cores. The OC is not only change governor have lot more things
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yaa i know the OC is not just changing kernels , but i mean it's some how impossible to reach 24000 points . htc one max with 1.7 krait and 2 gig ram get this point . the most point that i got ever was with sky dragon rom + lonelyx kernel that is really fantastic , but the score is 17374 . i put the max mhz on graphic cheap , turned oon all Cpu cores value to 1.5Ghz and .... but how they got 24000 points ? i think i just set everything to the maximum that is possible , because increasing the overclock value on graphic chip or cpu cores makes phone really unstable and you will not even finish the test process and your phone will be shut down .
i just want to know if is there anyway that i can get better performance , i'm now really happy with new Lonelyx kernel , but i'm wonder it's really possible to make it even better ?!!!
As Thant told you..Play with your kernel,try other kernels..OC gpu and cpu..But with that you must be very careful
And maybe HOX simply can't reach that number of points ^^