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there a lots of nubs around i must be one of them
anyways those ppls don't read dont understand what they doing
and then whining about bricking their phones
so here is tiny idea that may reduce nubs bricking their phone
when those ppls register to the forum
will read same rules about flashing ROMs
such as
1. Flashing ROM could Brick ur Phone something like
2. Dont Flash Radio without knowing 100% that is belong to Ur model ID [like if u have hd2 Tmobile-US will brick if u will put HD2 UK model]
3. don't flash ROM if the OP didn't write enuf info about compatibility for ur phone
its could be shorter
and then make them write
i wont flash ROM without reading carefully the guides
or something like that
i guess u guys can figure that out in better way
The problem is, you can't teach common sense, and as we all know, it ain't that common anyway. There are a few people who think it would be a good idea to have some kind of time limit for new members to encourage them to search for whatever information it is they are looking for before they post a question which has already been answered a hundred times already which would cover what you're also suggesting.
Its n00bs
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HCFroyd247 said:
I personally don't see any problems when it comes to cooked roms. These people shared their work with utmost dedication and I certainly appreciate it. It would boost SGY development in many aspects for one is the UI (user experience), the designs and themes are also part of development. Developing is not an easy task, bearing in mind the fluidity of your designs, the critical response of the rom's performance and the originality, the x-factor for a Rom's success.
You will see the value of your own work if it will last for a long time, and if people across the whole world will take time to install it to their phone. In that sense, I think Amal Das's creations is on the right track. I will not question the fact that he has contributed a lot in terms of ROM design choices. Look at his posts, there are tons of designs to choose from! at that perspective I will give a double thumbs up! (you can make a unified thread for your designs, instead of making a multiple threads, it will be more efficient)
If all of us will be hostile against people who want to share, there will be no point for such a forum to exist. He shared, you as user and a member of this forum can constructively criticize it as expected to a mature individual.
Sooner or later developers, contributors, themers will move on to other devices, so let us appreciate what is available for us right now.
Kudos for the maker of these roms, for making this community alive!
PS. Amal Das, please edit your first page. I do not see any chobits elements in your rom you may have overlooked the "chobits revamped ui" lol. It is okay to copy anything from my thread, atleast edit it to perfectly suit your rom's description. Thanks and more power!
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HCFroyd has a point our phone will not be developed forever. I'm guessing after the realease of the S III we don't have much time left. Lets try and do as much as we can while we can!"
i have another phone with me here,
a HTC Wizard one of the first windows mobile smartphones which was released mid 2007- early 2008,
they have a forum here in xda but sad to say the last development for a custom rom was on 2010,
so the forum is now but a ghost land with less than 1 post per 5 days or so with no devs left working on the device,
my point is a time will come that SGY will also be like HTC wizard,
turn into a old end device and the forum will be like a ghost town,
we do realize this and the best thing we can do it to just have fun with our device,
develop things for the sake of sharing ideas to others, collaborating minds of millions of SGY owners,
i love my phone and its the first phone i bought with my first salary so it has a sentimental value
cheers to all SGY owners
Exactly..I dont see the point in arguing with cooked/themed stuff..different people have various choices..some people like MIUI,some ICS, and some stock etc..whats wrong in that? There are pathetic people who dont contribute to the forums instead they criticize people who are trying to do some good to the forums...What we can do utmost is to deny those negative comments,take the constructive comments and move ahead!
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Please read this post:
HCFroyd has a point our phone will not be developed forever.
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I hope no one use HCFroyd's statement as an apology for developing a mere themed rom.
hitme987 said:
Exactly..I dont see the point in arguing with cooked/themed stuff..different people have various choices..some people like MIUI,some ICS, and some stock etc..whats wrong in that? There are pathetic people who dont contribute to the forums instead they criticize people who are trying to do some good to the forums...What we can do utmost is to deny those negative comments,take the constructive comments and move ahead!
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i don't have problem with themed rom as long as they give proper credit to original creator. i never ask credit for my work but someone did. the new trend in our forum, a lot new themed rom don't give credit to original creator. but that's only 'small' problem. bigger problem is a lot of new rom released with too much bug. if you experience user, you could solve that problem easily. but how about someone new ? please remember this forum become reference for other forum or non member. today i see in other forum, someone asking for help because his phone brick after flash themed custom rom from this forum.
we couldn't expect those wannabe devs to solve their rom problems. personally I doubt if they're know how to properly customize a rom. most of them only replace the apps, and change the ui_print stuff in updater script. in most cases they don't even know how to modify an apk since they modify their systemUI and framework-res via UOT kitchen. this will surely brings problems to new member or inexperienced one here.
It will surely come to an end, but the S3 will not kick the Y out of xda. It would need pretty long legs to kick a low-end device.
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i don't have problem with themed rom as long as they give proper credit to original creator. i never ask credit for my work but someone did. the new trend in our forum, a lot new themed rom don't give credit to original creator. but that's only 'small' problem. bigger problem is a lot of new rom released with too much bug. if you experience user, you could solve that problem easily. but how about someone new ? please remember this forum become reference for other forum or non member. today i see in other forum, someone asking for help because his phone brick after flash themed custom rom from this forum.
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Well, that's why we have the support general section, faq and q &a.. The bugs I saw in the threads are very minor and mostly fcs which are mostly accompanied by fixes from the dev.. The bricking errors are mostly due to wrong method of flashing and no thread in dev section causes bricks otherwise.. Regarding the credit thing, yeah some people may not give proper credit but they didn't just post the content as it is right? They did some work and stuff but it's respect that matters and they won't get it by modding stuff.. But I really appreciate the way amal das cooked and added the themes, apps.. It surely involves some definite time and effort and remember something is better than nothing.. We must appreciate their effort to upload and share them for nothing !
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You have a good point hitme!
as for me I do not see anything wrong when people want to share something. its just that other users tend to envy what they made and then criticize the creator/moder/chef.
(that's what I noticed here at SGY forum)
BUT THIS CRITICISM DOES NOT EXIST ON ANY OTHER FORUMS. i wonder why?
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I hope no one use HCFroyd's statement as an apology for developing a mere themed rom.
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I totally agree on this. And if these people uses custom ROMS as base ROM, themed it and added some apps that totally boost the UI and not the performance or to cut it short decorated the rom instead of adding new features or tweaks, why not release it as an OPTIONAL THEME UPDATE or OPTIONAL APP PACKAGE and not NEW DEV ROM thing?
Don't get me wrong but I do appreciate hard work. Themeing is developing but please keep it in mind that SKINNING is different from BUILDING. Skinning is theming and building means you start from STOCK ROM WITH NO TWEAKS and you DEVELOP/ADD/MODIFY the ROM to have new features -and that being true, I see no reason for a THEMED CUSTOM ROM to be LABELED ROM DEV NEW.
I have experience in building a custom rom, I have a Motorola A1200 Ming way back and what I did is I integrated A1600 and A1800 features to A1200 firmware. I didn't use and custom rom available and gave it a new look.
My point is, you don't label a rom whose base is a custom as *developed or *new. That sucks! How come you use others ROM and themed it + added some apps? and call it developed? It should be skinned or themed or optional update. You got to be kidding to think you developed it when you skinned it. And that number of thanks you get prolongs your day dreaming of being a developer when you are just a skinner/themer.
NOTE:
The above statement may not be comfortable for your eyes to read but hey, it's true. If you're no developer, Well this post sucks. Truth hurts.
We need a Steve Jobs in SGY..
He was not a developer, but a motivator
steve 'jobs' (lol)
please don't think that me (or some other user) hate the rom development. nope...we only get tired of those who claimed themself as a dev but in reality know almost nothing in rom development.
1. these people potentially risk other user for bricking their device.
2. you can't expect a good rom from them. in most cases you'll only get a half assed rom with a lot of bug.
I was saying that statement to ensure that we get a rom with good quality from a real dev. i'm sorry if this words might sound harsh.
kurotsugi said:
steve 'jobs' (lol)
please don't think that me (or some other user) hate the rom development. nope...we only get tired of those who claimed themself as a dev but in reality know almost nothing in rom development.
1. these people potentially risk other user for bricking their device.
2. you can't expect a good rom from them. in most cases you'll only get a half assed rom with a lot of bug.
I was saying that statement to ensure that we get a rom with good quality from a real dev. i'm sorry if this words might sound harsh.
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You do have a point, man. They needn't be called devs, but they are making something! You can't just expect someone to just create a very good rom like chobits or creeds. They have to start from the base, making small mods, and when they become good at it, then they can start making bigger mods, and so on. You won't understand the studies of a university unless you've completed the one of school.
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I.AM.H3RO said:
HCFroyd has a point our phone will not be developed forever. I'm guessing after the realease of the S III we don't have much time left. Lets try and do as much as we can while we can!"
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I don't understand what you mean, SIII is too expensive, low & mid-range devices still remain
anasdcool71 said:
You do have a point, man. They needn't be called devs, but they are making something! You can't just expect someone to just create a very good rom like chobits or creeds. They have to start from the base, making small mods, and when they become good at it, then they can start making bigger mods, and so on. You won't understand the studies of a university unless you've completed the one of school.
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you chose wrong example
i am not too 'old' in this forum, but afair i was already here when chobits released. it's not themed rom and it's relatively stable even in first release. nobody can stop you from making/learning custom rom, but release to forum is another matter. if the mod only themes (which a lot new dev did) we already have themes sub forum. and if it's only fix small problem in other custom rom, why not just create patch. and is it really hard to says if he/she make it based other rom ?
i don't claim if i am a dev, but i do share some of my small modifications in this forum. before i share something, i need 2-4 days (in my spare time) to review my modification, make sure every know problems already fixed. most of my mod is low level so one mistake can brick your phone forever. i do wild and crazy thing with my own device. but when i decide to share it, i do very very carefully, because if i did something wrong it will effect someone else phone. few days ago i almost pull back my shared mod because someone report my mod make his phone restart. fortunately i can fix it.
anasdcool71 said:
You do have a point, man. They needn't be called devs, but they are making something! You can't just expect someone to just create a very good rom like chobits or creeds. They have to start from the base, making small mods, and when they become good at it, then they can start making bigger mods, and so on. You won't understand the studies of a university unless you've completed the one of school.
Sent from heaven!
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learning and sharing is a different things...if they already have some skill about theming stuff they could share their work as a theme.
1. it has less risk for brick
2. easier for them to upload
3. easier to apply to any rom
please don't see me as someone who doesn't like rom developer. I don't mind if anyone ask me about rom development. I have made a thread about customizing a rom and anyone could use that as a starting point in their study. I've also helped several user developing their rom and some of them have published their rom in this forum. believe me, I want to see more rom developer in this forum. but I don't want to see a half assed rom with a lot of bug and complains from other user.
PS: if you consider about reputation stuff you'll understand that I'm saying this for their good. anyone will see someone who comes with a half assed rom as a fake dev. I don't wanna see that happen (again) to anyone here. if they could restrain themself a little bit until they could make a good rom, they could get better response and more appreciation of their work.
Question
@all
can you please tell us which roms and their developer, that you do not consider as part of SGY development? So we can clearly differentiate it from "real" development to just cooked or themed..
Thanks!
https://docs.google.com/forms/d/10m8gZKop9IPFhIsdMwjRxyXlpetCVwaemhNh27q8Pu8/viewform
just an example. 5 minutes in google docs. That will help me and other users. Is that really hard to make and attach to big main thread?
Stock is always best. I personally think the extra features in custom roms are worth the slightly less battery life.
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lectricas said:
Here is the thing. THERE ARE TONS OF ROMS and people trying each rom, and all of them are useless. I can castomize almost every rom, that I want because it is android. I can install castom launcher or theme and thats all! What is a big difference between all this ~50 roms that you have made? Why I have to spend my time to try each of it? Istead of that I can make some usefull things like spreading good roms to 4pda.ru or other local forums.
Why I have to try all this roms http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1792896 if one thing I need is good battery life?
Is it really hard to make a head count? Is it really hard to NOT CLOSE threads with battery life discussions? I really dont underestand you, guys.
Yeah, I know that battery life depends on kernel, I installed paranoid + franco kernel(proclaimed as an awesome battery) and what I have? It sucks, stock rom 100 times better.
I dont need a performance or damn ANTUTU points, what Im do is just making calls and reading books. Thats all!
Please, give me the name of best ROM + kernel pair for best battery life. Also, please name some statistic.
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Wow... Unless something is lost in translation, it sounds like you really aren't interested in what XDA-Developers is all about. While there are numerous knowledgeable folks here who will happily help others and answer questions, it's not a place to drop in and have people serve up just what you want to know on demand. If the answer to your question were truly a "cut and dried" affair, then you'd likely see some information in the Wiki listing "the best ROM / kernel combination for battery life", and all of the conversations and ROM / kernel experiments and tweaks relating to that topic would be moot. But that's simply not the case. "Best" will differ across users and configurations, depending on usage patterns, installed apps, strength of 3G / 4G / Wi-Fi signals throughout the user's day, etc. Whether or not you, personally, care about the feature sets that custom ROMs offer, most of the folks here do, in fact, care -- and that's why many of us are here. That's why the developers put in countless hours researching, developing, testing and tweaking their ROMs, kernels and utilities.
Finding "the best" will be a different search for each user, based on unique circumstances and interests. That's why it's so great that there are, in fact, so many choices here. But making the best use of the site requires that you be willing to read the discussions, do some searching, and then perhaps ask questions in various discussion threads that will help you find out what you hope to learn. If you're not willing to do that, and if you dismiss 90% of the development effort here as being pointless, I'd suggest that you probably won't find what you're looking for here.
Battery life is what it is on the Galaxy Nexus. I havent really seen THAT big of a difference with all the ROM/Kernel combos I have tried. Its the phone itself. If you have that big of a problem with it, I suggest getting an extended battery or a new phone.
You're right. You should take your questions to those forums. If you think any policies are going to change just because you complain about them you are clearly not the type of member XDA is intended for.
Jesus dude stay stock and quit wasting everyone's time with useless threads.
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lectricas said:
Here is the thing. THERE ARE TONS OF ROMS and people trying each rom, and all of them are useless. I can castomize almost every rom, that I want because it is android. I can install castom launcher or theme and thats all! What is a big difference between all this ~50 roms that you have made? Why I have to spend my time to try each of it? Istead of that I can make some usefull things like spreading good roms to 4pda.ru or other local forums.
Why I have to try all this roms http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1792896 if one thing I need is good battery life?
Is it really hard to make a head count? Is it really hard to NOT CLOSE threads with battery life discussions? I really dont underestand you, guys.
Yeah, I know that battery life depends on kernel, I installed paranoid + franco kernel(proclaimed as an awesome battery) and what I have? It sucks, stock rom 100 times better.
I dont need a performance or damn ANTUTU points, what Im do is just making calls and reading books. Thats all!
Please, give me the name of best ROM + kernel pair for best battery life. Also, please name some statistic.
Thanks paranoid for the PIE.
Thanks all of you guys, who made something really new and useful.
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Okay I just wasted my time for reading that....
hmmm..
What is a big difference between all this ~50 roms that you have made? Why I have to spend my time to try each of it? Istead of that I can make some usefull things like spreading good roms to 4pda.ru or other local forums.
Why I have to try all this roms http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1792896 if one thing I need is good battery life?
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Nobody tells you that you must try every ROM.
What's the difference of all the ROMs for Nexus:
- Another "ROM developer"
- Different features
- Different look
- Different experience
- Etc..
If you like to complain about the things then put even your thread to Q&A section!! -_-
I am using my modified STOCK Android ROM and battery life is great so stop complaining and use Android phone with stock Android OS or go to use iPhone with the same firmware which almost everyone iPhone user uses..
And also Battery life doesn't just depend of "Kernel", also many other things affects to battery life.
that was a difficult read. so i didn't
My suggestion go with a ROM that is pretty much stock AOSP, and not AOKP in your case. Stick with a ROM like KALO's that is just basically the AOSP Stock ROM with almost no mods, if you worried about battery life.
I mean we could tell you but we'd have to kill you and that's against the XDA rules.
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go buy a flip phone
First of all "castom" isn't even a word. It's CUSTOM. Second, it's not really a good idea for noobs to take it upon themselves to blast people like you just did. This is a DEVELOPMENT forum. Just because YOU think a ROM is useless doesn't make it so. And seriously, if a MOD thinks a thread needs to be closed, it's closed. Period. Again, just because YOU think it shouldn't be doesn't make it so. Finally, don't expect to be spoon fed here. It's not tolerated well, and "Tell me the best ROM" threads generally aren't either if I remember correctly. The best way to learn is to read read read. There is a wealth of info here. Most people figure out the best ROM for them by reading and testing.
Chill out and start educating yourself on what this forum is all about.
lectricas said:
Here is the thing. THERE ARE TONS OF ROMS and people trying each rom, and all of them are useless. I can castomize almost every rom, that I want because it is android. I can install castom launcher or theme and thats all! What is a big difference between all this ~50 roms that you have made? Why I have to spend my time to try each of it? Istead of that I can make some usefull things like spreading good roms to 4pda.ru or other local forums.
Why I have to try all this roms http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1792896 if one thing I need is good battery life?
Is it really hard to make a head count? Is it really hard to NOT CLOSE threads with battery life discussions? I really dont underestand you, guys.
Yeah, I know that battery life depends on kernel, I installed paranoid + franco kernel(proclaimed as an awesome battery) and what I have? It sucks, stock rom 100 times better.
I dont need a performance or damn ANTUTU points, what Im do is just making calls and reading books. Thats all!
Please, give me the name of best ROM + kernel pair for best battery life. Also, please name some statistic.
Thanks paranoid for the PIE.
Thanks all of you guys, who made something really new and useful.
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https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet...MTV6NXJQUHFCMTF1bTZtYjc5MXc&usp=sharing#gid=0
sorry guys. Found that.
How to delete post?
Lola.. this dude is funny.. Blasting people because he don't know to get good battery life instead of learning and trying different things.. Cm10.1 m2 and lean kernel. 3.5 screen on time Is plenty for me. Don't blast devs hard work that they do for free just because your lazy to learn.
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Wow he really went on a rant there. This place is full of great information. I say go buy a flip phone or be ready for some trial and error. Every phone is different, even if it is the same model every phone is different. What works for me may not work for you and vice versa. If you can spend a lot of time customizing then you can spend some time figuring out how to get better battery life.
3 to 4 hrs screen time for a phone that's got more CPU and ram than my first computer......not bad
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Quit being lazy and expecting users here to spoon feed you. Go do your homework and share your findings
Toro | Xylon | AK Diamond
Sandman-007 said:
Quit being lazy and expecting users here to spoon feed you. Go do your homework and share your findings
Toro | Xylon | AK Diamond
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You're about a month late to the chastising.
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b1337 said:
go buy a flip phone
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Flip phones are pretty nifty these days I hear!
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I have a rooted GNEX with CM 10.1 installed.
My phone gets very hot on the back side when I use the internet. Is there a solution to this? Also the battery life is not as good as it was on ICS.
Thanks.
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Response Below So that I could Help you For every steps for your moments for sure!!!
1.For unlocking bootloader!!
2.For Rooting Device!!!
3.For Resolving Bootloop!!!
4.For Accessing good quality ROM & Kernel!!!
I ll surely help you with all the problem
With posting via screenshot for easier guidance
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There are already guides available for items 1 - 3.
Item 4 is not necessary since you got a whole forum devoted to Android development. Besides the point is not to tell people which ROM is the best, let them try it out for themselves since each ROM has its pros and cons. It's up to the end user to determine the ROM - kernel combination that works best for him/her.
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Not man!!! ITS important part
All user use Super Jelly Beans 6
Its got cool toggles and almost quite interesting room ever found!!
Mod please close thread, this is redundant. And stop asking people to use this ROM. Let them decide for themselves.
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I know your feeling
All people want to know best kernel and for also for best ROM
:cyclops:
Before they begin they should know my important before messing their current firmware and for kernel
I just want to be the great helper and like to be popular
Some day I ll sure create great ROM ever than any other even you cant imagine with that ROM!!!!
mwolverine7 said:
All people want to know best kernel and for also for best ROM
:cyclops:
Before they begin they should know my important before messing their current firmware and for kernel
I just want to be the great helper and like to be popular
Some day I ll sure create great ROM ever than any other even you cant imagine with that ROM!!!!
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Sorry, this is everyone's opinion on Best ROM.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2097137
There are plenty of guides out there that give the health warnings before people mess with their phones.
If you want to be popular and be a great help, answer people's questions at Q&A rather than set up a redundant Q&A thread posting guides that are already available.
If you really want to make "The Best ROM", sitting here and telling the whole world you will do it is not going to help.
Rather, you should just start on your work and let people see the results.
Dont play with other small heart man!!!
IF you think you are the cheerfull loser than never get messed up with other newbies heart
and dont ever try to play with their small feelinhg
I m just needey for their help and what that comes for the effect man!!!
mwolverine7 said:
IF you think you are the cheerfull loser than never get messed up with other newbies heart
and dont ever try to play with their small feelinhg
I m just needey for their help and what that comes for the effect man!!!
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Sorry bub, but it's in the rules. Unless you want a mod?
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Yea bub, but anyway I like to help newly one so ,,
Have you used super jelly bean v6,0 ??
I have used CM10.2 newly realeased all was cool But I hate one is camera and that blue prints comes after every capture
and also IT drains lots of battery!!!
That the reason I choose SJB x4.5 as coolest rom ever
Hello everyone I'm looking for someone who wants to try out my new rom.
I am looking for someone who wants to do some tests about the battery, speed, fluidity.
Things you should know:
1 I'm not a developer and I have very little experience then the ROM may not start or even damage your phone.
2 Agreeing to try this rom you automatically agree to assume all responsibility for anything that may happen to your phone, I do not take responsibility.
It's a sense-based rom, let me know! Send me a PM