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Why don't tell here what is the best Rom for YOU?
Help the new members to choose...
my opinion
the best rom for my needs is my own cooked version of PDAVIET 3.00.07.09
i just added to it some tweaks and apps to MY liking... but to me its the best ROM ive tried so far from the bunch... the AX3L ROM which i used before, was also great, the only problem i have with this great work is that its not based on the dopod release and gives me trouble with my local customization...
i hope it helped
hellonasty said:
All members talk about all Roms...
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Help the new members to choose...
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.... with pro and cons (if possible)....
Thanks for the thread
I'm a newbie and i want to install a wm6 based ROM on my Trinity, but I don't know which one...
P.S. May be (IMO) you have to specify in a better way the title of the thread to result more comprehensive
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All members talk about all Roms...
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Help the new members to choose...
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Yes, I got what you said.
The thing is that what is the best ROM for you, doesn't have to be the best ROM for the next person. It very much depends on the type of user that you are and the what features the user is looking for.
So you could create a table or a matrix which shows the features per ROM. This would definitely be a great startingpoint.
Always the same question ... And the better answer is try yourself for having your own opinion : the best rom is different depending on your needs...So try and post your feedback...But that sort of question is useless !!!
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Always the same question ... And the better answer is try yourself for having your own opinion : the best rom is different depending on your needs...So try and post your feedback...But that sort of question is useless !!!
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I don't think that the question is useless, cause the features, the bugs, the speedness of a ROM are not an OPINION....
I think that made a table with pro, cons , bugs and features of each ROM is USEFULL for a great part of the community, in particular for the newbies like me. Thanks and sorry for my English
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I don't think that the question is useless, cause the features, the bugs, the speedness of a ROM are not an OPINION....
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If you take the time to read the tread of the differents Roms (i know it's difficult to read for someone...) ... You will know which bugs are in which Rom ... So...I persist..i'm sorry but i'm still thinking it's useless
You'll see if you read each ROM thread that some people say it's quicker than others, it all depends on what you're using it for, what apps you want to install.
In the end, asking everyone which the best ROM is, is pointless, because as shym says, the only way to fins out is to TRY them all.
It takes 10 minutes to flash a new ROM, half an hour to install all the apps, use it for a day, flash another one the next day, try for yourself, it really is the best way.
what is a pro to 1 person is a con to another
I agree with shym - interesting that most senior members have the same opinion. You will find the pros and cons of each ROM by reading their threads. (If you can't be bothered to do that - this forum probably isn;t for you).
and if not - try out different ROMs for ourself - you'll learn a lot - it's worth it.
... I'm not the thread mader but for me an overview table of all the cooked ROMs is usefull.
Ok without pro and cons (cause are personal opinions) but alt least the features and the bugs cold be added.
If all the community don't think so, My best apologise to all
don't you think that anyone that will make that table will put inside his own personal opinion? you will have a table with only one person as jury. pretty useless huh?
I like mun_rus TE and i don't like Axel's rom. why? just because. is my opinion.
and maybe I'm wrong because many people love Axel's rom. how could that be helpful? just try yourself some available roms and you will get the best opinion.
the best opinion for YOU I mean
btw... this is not the first topic about this subject. have a look here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=318951
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=315285
for a poll, plz go here... - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=316107
hope noone minds...
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don't you think that anyone that will make that table will put inside his own personal opinion? you will have a table with only one person as jury. pretty useless huh?
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If you add your own opinion to the fact, yes, it becomes blurry and useless. But if you state facts (installed software, cutomizations etc)... I would love to see such an overview.
Yea, alright, i know, there hv been many threads abt which the best ROM is in ur opinion, but none of them hv really continued and provided some usefull opinion, so Im creatin a poll ova here, and post your opinions abt different ROMS and why you like them and why you use them and pros and cons.... if you don have so much time, or u think its better to read their description or try em out, atleast vote in the poll, its not a really tough thing im asking you to do...
EDIT: Anyone wanting to vote for a version previous to ones listed plz do, in the same option, eg: AX3L or LVSW's and if you like a ROM not listed here, plz do mention it.
my favourite ?
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Yea, alright, i know, there hv been many threads abt which the best ROM is in ur opinion, but none of them hv really continued and provided some usefull opinion, so Im creatin a poll ova here, and post your opinions abt different ROMS and why you like them and why you use them and pros and cons.... if you don have so much time, or u think its better to read their description or try em out, atleast vote in the poll, its not a really tough thing im asking you to do...
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There's no stoppin' you hey AK?
You've obviously read the other threads - seen what others (the majority) think - seen that this type of thread has been created so many times - and you've even seen that
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but you figured that your poll would be different - that everyone would vote and comment and that something useful would come of it.
OK fairy play to you - I encourage anyone who feels the same to boycott this thread. Sorry AK - no offense meant - but creating 5 threads for the same thing - I just can't see the point. Your last post was in another thread created today on the same topic.???????
Is it me or what?
this poll is great - a third of voters currently think the best ROm is one that does not yet exist!
You lot wouldn't be taking the p**s by any chance?
I like that "i dont understand english" hehehehe great voting
wow, dude, yea, everyone has their own opinions and I created this thread for the benifit of those ppl who are new here, and want to knw which is the best ROM to suit their needs, and yea it is funny that ppl have voted for ingigo's full version, but its because of their trust on mUn, or they already knw it gonna be good, because the FULL edition is just the lite edition plus more apps.
And yea, I posted in another thread created for the same reason, because it wasnt goin anywhere and it didnt have a poll.
And yea, everyone has their own opinion so I respect those ppl who find this thread useless, but till then, the ppl who think otherwise can continue voting and utilize this thread...
How about adding "Shipped ROM" to the poll?
What about PDAVIET ROMs why can I not express my preference for those ROMs? Also - my favourite AX3L ROM is 2.0.5 - why can't I vote for it.
What about Lasagna, Dopod, Spanish, Faman, Bepe's ROM ENG and GER, FLY ROM, UdK's ROM, Ausdim's ROM etc etc.
Even if you wanted just to look and English language ROMs - there are far more than you indicate. even though I really disagree with this thread on several points, if you insist on doing something- at least do it fairly? If this sort of thing can be done fairly.
well alright, although Im pretty sure your favourite ROM IS NOT A3XL 2.0.5, you have a point, so if anyone wants to vote for AX3L ROM 2.0.08 or earlier they can do that in the same option... I was not aware of the other ROMs, so if anyone has a choice not listed, they can very well mention it here. (although, ROMs of other languages are mostly based on the ROMs listed here)
Well, I tried to be fair, if I wasn't, I apologize, and if you anything else left to say, plz do....
Again : same useless question
I'm agree with nealed : "What about Lasagna, Dopod, Spanish, Faman, Bepe's ROM ENG and GER, FLY ROM, UdK's ROM, Ausdim's ROM etc etc"....
Is it a nightmare ...?? Please somebody wake up me !!! Argh....!!
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Absolutely agree.
It's the joint work of chefs to make our devices better, and we shall respect their work without this kind of competition.
Ciao
Should we open a thread asking which is better, P3600 or Trinity?
Or Opel or Vauxhal?
You are free to open as many threads as you want, but when you think 1 minute about the real use of this thread, i think that you will hit your head in the wall and call yourself names.
So you think that making a poll will make life easier for the users that want to choose a new ROM? You think that its not easier to read the threads about each of them and then pick the one that has better support for your device/likings?
Or that by doing this you are actually hurting the community by making people actually choose a ROM and make the cookers of the other ROMs leave the scene?
Everybody deserves the right to freedom, but there is a difference between freedom and stupidity and i guess that you are mixing it somehow.
Just my 10 cents... Feel free to disagree
To all SENIOR members, I know that for you this is just 1 more topic about the same old question, but for example for me it's a good information topic, at least to decide what will be my first WM6 ROM!!
I know very well, that 1 ROM could be the better to someone but for another person it can be the worst!
But if we have some kind of information about the pros and cons of the various ROM's then it's easier to decide wich one we will install!
And maybe later when we have more experience we start to try all of them and then we can decide by ourself's.
Maybe this can go STICKY and then no more questions about this
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But if we have some kind of information about the pros and cons of the various ROM's then it's easier to decide wich one we will install!
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You can have it if you're not too lazy for read all the post ... It's the better way of learning (and not posting just to know wich underwear i'm gonna use today) !!
All rom rocks and all coockers try to bring smth new to the comunity.
to Mikhe69 and all the others that think this thread is useful...
If you really want to help anybody choosing their ROM then you can make something more helpful. Read all the threads about the available WM6 ROM's, write down their pro's and con's and present this information to the community. When you do this, i am sure that many people will actually thank you and almost for sure that the thread would be a sticky. But this is the hard way, the easy way i think you already know about it...
This is not a question of who it senior or who is junior, its just a question of being lazy.
(Abraco Mikhe69.)
L.
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You can have it if you're not too lazy for read all the post ... It's the better way of learning (and not posting just to know wich underwear i'm gonna use today) !!
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Unfortunately sometimes u don't have the time to read all the post, and when u just want to put something new on your device, there should be a easy way to help you!
I started yesterday on the WM6 ROM,and already tried 3 ROM's, and I still don't even know how many ROM there's in this forum.
This is why we should have some starting point of information.
Of course this should not be considered has some sort of competition between the ROM developer's, and eventually the newbies will become more able to try new things and after some experiences (sometimes bad) they will decide what is the best ROM for them!
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Unfortunately sometimes u don't have the time to read all the post, and when u just want to put something new on your device, !
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I think it's the best way to brick your device : install something without any information about it ! As you want
Like nealed says in an another thread interesting as this one"You will find the pros and cons of each ROM by reading their threads. (If you can't be bothered to do that - this forum probably isn;t for you)."
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All rom rocks and all coockers try to bring smth new to the comunity.
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Exactly. I am grateful to all of you guys who add flavor to my bland Trinity and are always outdoing yourselves. So for that, they all are great* and thank you.
*Except for that 'official' release, I hated that one personally.
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I think it's the best way to brick your device : install something without any information about it ! As you want
Like nealed says in an another thread interesting as this one"You will find the pros and cons of each ROM by reading their threads. (If you can't be bothered to do that - this forum probably isn;t for you)."
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Maybe in the future (when I reach senior ) I'll have the same opinion has you, but for know I just think that at least there should be a Thread with the list of all available ROM's in the forum.
This way the newbie's will know where to search!
I have been scanning hundreds of XDA pages for about an hour now and I'm totaly sick of it, I'm not a person who would normaly start a thread for something like this but I don't know anymore.
I'm currently on HTC's official 1.93 ROM, its not very bad but I think my Diamond deserves better, so I want a custom ROM. My problem? There seem to be hundreds of different ones, what one is best for me?
My main goal is a significant speed bump, I like the overal functionality, it just isn't very fast.
I'd like to maintain the official looks as much as possible but get the best possible speed boost, what's best for me? I don't care about language realy, as long as its english or dutch. English prefered.
To be fair, i hope you realize that after this post you will probably have lots of people moaning at you about doing your own research etc etc
PM me and i will discuss this with you!
OK so its a little frustrating to get the info you need fast, i understand.
read the flashing tutorial
get unsigned hard SPL and install
pick ROM, any rom will do. i recommend Panosha, Swiftblade, or Duttys. These guys ARE the most experience chefs! BAR NONE
then just try them out.
Yes you will have re-flash & then re-flash again & again until you find the best ROM.
This is the only way IMHO to answer your own question.
and this is what EVERYONE else does or is doing!
So, join the club & welcome aboard.
be warned though it is very addictive!!!!
The whole flashing process is not an issue, I'm tech savy enough to figure that out, especially if its as well documented as it is on on here. My problem is, I don't have the time (and to be honest, nor do I have the will) to get realy deep into this.
I want my phone to keep its stock looks and stock functionality, but it has to be a lot faster. After that, I'm out of here a hell of a lot faster than I came in.
All I need is for someone to tell me what rom suits the needs I just described the best.
I have the same problem. Also none of these roms seem to work like it should. They have a lot of bugs.
if its about being fats and stick near to the original i would suggest AZTOR fitting your needs
So you are here, we have to deliver to you, and you go again, if I read that right??
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if its about being fats and stick near to the original i would suggest AZTOR fitting your needs
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fats = Fast. I agree - AZTOR is an excellent choice for this guys needs. Fast and Original.
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I have the same problem. Also none of these roms seem to work like it should. They have a lot of bugs.
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"Lots of Bugs". That is a generalisation and is plain wrong. Do your research an you will find several ROMs that are bug free.
The best way to get bugs is to load a brand new ROM in the initial excitement after it has been released. Cool your heels for a few days after release and then download the revised versions. The main ROM developers all tend to have some excellent, stable bug free versions floating around.
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So you are here, we have to deliver to you, and you go again, if I read that right??
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Yes, sir, you definetly read that right. Opposed to some people around here customising my phone is not my hobby, its kind of a must. I did NOT my buy my phone to mess around with it, I bought my phone to use it on business trips and such and keep my agenda etc etc, in other words, for its functionality. I am a way too busy man nowadays to involve myself in things like this.
So yes, I just updated to the recommended ROM, and it works perfectly. It's a noticable speed bump, as I requested. Thanks a lot for the great help!
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Yes, sir, you definetly read that right. Opposed to some people around here customising my phone is not my hobby, its kind of a must. I did NOT my buy my phone to mess around with it, I bought my phone to use it on business trips and such and keep my agenda etc etc, in other words, for its functionality. I am a way too busy man nowadays to involve myself in things like this.
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Well here is a suggestion. Seeing that you are way too busy...
How about you PAY someone to do this for you? Just put together a list of what you are after and offer to paypal someone some amount, say $20-$50 to match you with a ROM and a set of apps to meet your needs. That way you save your precious time and someone else gets a reward for their efforts to help you. Win all around.
Well you guys seem to be very busy people and need your fun for important stuff!
If you want a rom that isnt buggy ( I havent found one bug thou ) and thats stable why not just keep it to the original rom. It might be a bit slower but atleast you have a working phone!
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Well here is a suggestion. Seeing that you are way too busy...
How about you PAY someone to do this for you? Just put together a list of what you are after and offer to paypal someone some amount, say $20-$50 to match you with a ROM and a set of apps to meet your needs. That way you save your precious time and someone else gets a reward for their efforts to help you. Win all around.
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Could you define the purpose of a community for me one more time please? Sorry, I forgot.
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Could you define the purpose of a community for me one more time please? Sorry, I forgot.
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Basically what that means is, people who have the ability to cook do so for free and we all get to try what they make and and tell them bugs, which they fix.
Someone like yourself, who is pushed for time for whatever reason, and cannot look about and find the things they want from a rom can request a custom built rom, but as you can expect, since it is custom, and you will be the only one with the rom a "donation" is required for the cooks time.
If you dont want to pay, grab one of the roms available from here and do what everyone else does, try a few roms, then pic your fav, and stay with that brand.
I personally like to try all roms, but i keep going back to SwiftBL, if for instance i decide i want a custom rom i would PM SwiftBlade and offer him $30-$50 and detail my needs.
Hope this helps
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Basically what that means is, people who have the ability to cook do so for free and we all get to try what they make and and tell them bugs, which they fix.
Someone like yourself, who is pushed for time for whatever reason, and cannot look about and find the things they want from a rom can request a custom built rom, but as you can expect, since it is custom, and you will be the only one with the rom a "donation" is required for the cooks time.
If you dont want to pay, grab one of the roms available from here and do what everyone else does, try a few roms, then pic your fav, and stay with that brand.
I personally like to try all roms, but i keep going back to SwiftBL, if for instance i decide i want a custom rom i would PM SwiftBlade and offer him $30-$50 and detail my needs.
Hope this helps
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Bennec, haha, I do actualy know what a community is Apparently you didn't see the sarcasm in it
Well thanks for the reply, but I wasn't requesting a custom made rom especially for me, I'm asking what stock one is best for me. And I got my answer.
i'd recommend Dutty's rom over Panosha
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i'd recommend Dutty's rom over Panosha
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i must say that duttys rom does all i need...and more
With 'a lot of bugs' I mean that all of the roms I tried have some sort of irritating bug that floats up almost immidiately, like makes me think whether they even test their stuff.
The alarm plainly doesn't work. Or the browser exits/crashes when going into landscape. Or it simply crashes a lot.
Please, don't understand me wrong, I respect the effort and it's ME downloading those custom roms so it's me who's looking for trouble I just like having the latest version of software, all my devices or always up to date and I'm frustrated that htc itself doesn't release enough updates.
What I want is a rom that is simply standard but has the latest version of official htc apps. Maybe some registry tweaks for speed. But stability and no bugs is very important.
I'll try aztor but if that doesn't work out I'm going back to latest stock rom and just upgrade opera
Please read this post:
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I personally don't see any problems when it comes to cooked roms. These people shared their work with utmost dedication and I certainly appreciate it. It would boost SGY development in many aspects for one is the UI (user experience), the designs and themes are also part of development. Developing is not an easy task, bearing in mind the fluidity of your designs, the critical response of the rom's performance and the originality, the x-factor for a Rom's success.
You will see the value of your own work if it will last for a long time, and if people across the whole world will take time to install it to their phone. In that sense, I think Amal Das's creations is on the right track. I will not question the fact that he has contributed a lot in terms of ROM design choices. Look at his posts, there are tons of designs to choose from! at that perspective I will give a double thumbs up! (you can make a unified thread for your designs, instead of making a multiple threads, it will be more efficient)
If all of us will be hostile against people who want to share, there will be no point for such a forum to exist. He shared, you as user and a member of this forum can constructively criticize it as expected to a mature individual.
Sooner or later developers, contributors, themers will move on to other devices, so let us appreciate what is available for us right now.
Kudos for the maker of these roms, for making this community alive!
PS. Amal Das, please edit your first page. I do not see any chobits elements in your rom you may have overlooked the "chobits revamped ui" lol. It is okay to copy anything from my thread, atleast edit it to perfectly suit your rom's description. Thanks and more power!
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HCFroyd has a point our phone will not be developed forever. I'm guessing after the realease of the S III we don't have much time left. Lets try and do as much as we can while we can!"
i have another phone with me here,
a HTC Wizard one of the first windows mobile smartphones which was released mid 2007- early 2008,
they have a forum here in xda but sad to say the last development for a custom rom was on 2010,
so the forum is now but a ghost land with less than 1 post per 5 days or so with no devs left working on the device,
my point is a time will come that SGY will also be like HTC wizard,
turn into a old end device and the forum will be like a ghost town,
we do realize this and the best thing we can do it to just have fun with our device,
develop things for the sake of sharing ideas to others, collaborating minds of millions of SGY owners,
i love my phone and its the first phone i bought with my first salary so it has a sentimental value
cheers to all SGY owners
Exactly..I dont see the point in arguing with cooked/themed stuff..different people have various choices..some people like MIUI,some ICS, and some stock etc..whats wrong in that? There are pathetic people who dont contribute to the forums instead they criticize people who are trying to do some good to the forums...What we can do utmost is to deny those negative comments,take the constructive comments and move ahead!
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HCFroyd has a point our phone will not be developed forever.
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I hope no one use HCFroyd's statement as an apology for developing a mere themed rom.
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Exactly..I dont see the point in arguing with cooked/themed stuff..different people have various choices..some people like MIUI,some ICS, and some stock etc..whats wrong in that? There are pathetic people who dont contribute to the forums instead they criticize people who are trying to do some good to the forums...What we can do utmost is to deny those negative comments,take the constructive comments and move ahead!
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i don't have problem with themed rom as long as they give proper credit to original creator. i never ask credit for my work but someone did. the new trend in our forum, a lot new themed rom don't give credit to original creator. but that's only 'small' problem. bigger problem is a lot of new rom released with too much bug. if you experience user, you could solve that problem easily. but how about someone new ? please remember this forum become reference for other forum or non member. today i see in other forum, someone asking for help because his phone brick after flash themed custom rom from this forum.
we couldn't expect those wannabe devs to solve their rom problems. personally I doubt if they're know how to properly customize a rom. most of them only replace the apps, and change the ui_print stuff in updater script. in most cases they don't even know how to modify an apk since they modify their systemUI and framework-res via UOT kitchen. this will surely brings problems to new member or inexperienced one here.
It will surely come to an end, but the S3 will not kick the Y out of xda. It would need pretty long legs to kick a low-end device.
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i don't have problem with themed rom as long as they give proper credit to original creator. i never ask credit for my work but someone did. the new trend in our forum, a lot new themed rom don't give credit to original creator. but that's only 'small' problem. bigger problem is a lot of new rom released with too much bug. if you experience user, you could solve that problem easily. but how about someone new ? please remember this forum become reference for other forum or non member. today i see in other forum, someone asking for help because his phone brick after flash themed custom rom from this forum.
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Well, that's why we have the support general section, faq and q &a.. The bugs I saw in the threads are very minor and mostly fcs which are mostly accompanied by fixes from the dev.. The bricking errors are mostly due to wrong method of flashing and no thread in dev section causes bricks otherwise.. Regarding the credit thing, yeah some people may not give proper credit but they didn't just post the content as it is right? They did some work and stuff but it's respect that matters and they won't get it by modding stuff.. But I really appreciate the way amal das cooked and added the themes, apps.. It surely involves some definite time and effort and remember something is better than nothing.. We must appreciate their effort to upload and share them for nothing !
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You have a good point hitme!
as for me I do not see anything wrong when people want to share something. its just that other users tend to envy what they made and then criticize the creator/moder/chef.
(that's what I noticed here at SGY forum)
BUT THIS CRITICISM DOES NOT EXIST ON ANY OTHER FORUMS. i wonder why?
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I hope no one use HCFroyd's statement as an apology for developing a mere themed rom.
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I totally agree on this. And if these people uses custom ROMS as base ROM, themed it and added some apps that totally boost the UI and not the performance or to cut it short decorated the rom instead of adding new features or tweaks, why not release it as an OPTIONAL THEME UPDATE or OPTIONAL APP PACKAGE and not NEW DEV ROM thing?
Don't get me wrong but I do appreciate hard work. Themeing is developing but please keep it in mind that SKINNING is different from BUILDING. Skinning is theming and building means you start from STOCK ROM WITH NO TWEAKS and you DEVELOP/ADD/MODIFY the ROM to have new features -and that being true, I see no reason for a THEMED CUSTOM ROM to be LABELED ROM DEV NEW.
I have experience in building a custom rom, I have a Motorola A1200 Ming way back and what I did is I integrated A1600 and A1800 features to A1200 firmware. I didn't use and custom rom available and gave it a new look.
My point is, you don't label a rom whose base is a custom as *developed or *new. That sucks! How come you use others ROM and themed it + added some apps? and call it developed? It should be skinned or themed or optional update. You got to be kidding to think you developed it when you skinned it. And that number of thanks you get prolongs your day dreaming of being a developer when you are just a skinner/themer.
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The above statement may not be comfortable for your eyes to read but hey, it's true. If you're no developer, Well this post sucks. Truth hurts.
We need a Steve Jobs in SGY..
He was not a developer, but a motivator
steve 'jobs' (lol)
please don't think that me (or some other user) hate the rom development. nope...we only get tired of those who claimed themself as a dev but in reality know almost nothing in rom development.
1. these people potentially risk other user for bricking their device.
2. you can't expect a good rom from them. in most cases you'll only get a half assed rom with a lot of bug.
I was saying that statement to ensure that we get a rom with good quality from a real dev. i'm sorry if this words might sound harsh.
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steve 'jobs' (lol)
please don't think that me (or some other user) hate the rom development. nope...we only get tired of those who claimed themself as a dev but in reality know almost nothing in rom development.
1. these people potentially risk other user for bricking their device.
2. you can't expect a good rom from them. in most cases you'll only get a half assed rom with a lot of bug.
I was saying that statement to ensure that we get a rom with good quality from a real dev. i'm sorry if this words might sound harsh.
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You do have a point, man. They needn't be called devs, but they are making something! You can't just expect someone to just create a very good rom like chobits or creeds. They have to start from the base, making small mods, and when they become good at it, then they can start making bigger mods, and so on. You won't understand the studies of a university unless you've completed the one of school.
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I.AM.H3RO said:
HCFroyd has a point our phone will not be developed forever. I'm guessing after the realease of the S III we don't have much time left. Lets try and do as much as we can while we can!"
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I don't understand what you mean, SIII is too expensive, low & mid-range devices still remain
anasdcool71 said:
You do have a point, man. They needn't be called devs, but they are making something! You can't just expect someone to just create a very good rom like chobits or creeds. They have to start from the base, making small mods, and when they become good at it, then they can start making bigger mods, and so on. You won't understand the studies of a university unless you've completed the one of school.
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you chose wrong example
i am not too 'old' in this forum, but afair i was already here when chobits released. it's not themed rom and it's relatively stable even in first release. nobody can stop you from making/learning custom rom, but release to forum is another matter. if the mod only themes (which a lot new dev did) we already have themes sub forum. and if it's only fix small problem in other custom rom, why not just create patch. and is it really hard to says if he/she make it based other rom ?
i don't claim if i am a dev, but i do share some of my small modifications in this forum. before i share something, i need 2-4 days (in my spare time) to review my modification, make sure every know problems already fixed. most of my mod is low level so one mistake can brick your phone forever. i do wild and crazy thing with my own device. but when i decide to share it, i do very very carefully, because if i did something wrong it will effect someone else phone. few days ago i almost pull back my shared mod because someone report my mod make his phone restart. fortunately i can fix it.
anasdcool71 said:
You do have a point, man. They needn't be called devs, but they are making something! You can't just expect someone to just create a very good rom like chobits or creeds. They have to start from the base, making small mods, and when they become good at it, then they can start making bigger mods, and so on. You won't understand the studies of a university unless you've completed the one of school.
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learning and sharing is a different things...if they already have some skill about theming stuff they could share their work as a theme.
1. it has less risk for brick
2. easier for them to upload
3. easier to apply to any rom
please don't see me as someone who doesn't like rom developer. I don't mind if anyone ask me about rom development. I have made a thread about customizing a rom and anyone could use that as a starting point in their study. I've also helped several user developing their rom and some of them have published their rom in this forum. believe me, I want to see more rom developer in this forum. but I don't want to see a half assed rom with a lot of bug and complains from other user.
PS: if you consider about reputation stuff you'll understand that I'm saying this for their good. anyone will see someone who comes with a half assed rom as a fake dev. I don't wanna see that happen (again) to anyone here. if they could restrain themself a little bit until they could make a good rom, they could get better response and more appreciation of their work.
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can you please tell us which roms and their developer, that you do not consider as part of SGY development? So we can clearly differentiate it from "real" development to just cooked or themed..
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Hi.
I can find the Alpha CM10.1 in dev section for PRO. Was wondering if there is a stable 10.1 for the ARC S LT18i or any JB based ROM for that matter?
On that note, would you consider the CM10 and ICS based ROM's to be stable? As in daily driver worthy?
Not asking "which ROM is best" etc... rather just asking if you consider them as stable, in general. I am considering UltimaHD even thought it's ICS based, but really wanted to go up to JB if there is anything stable and worthy out there. I don't really care if it's AOKP, AOSP or Stock based.
Pitbull_Raven said:
Hi.
I can find the Alpha CM10.1 in dev section for PRO. Was wondering if there is a stable 10.1 for the ARC S LT18i or any JB based ROM for that matter?
On that note, would you consider the CM10 and ICS based ROM's to be stable? As in daily driver worthy?
Not asking "which ROM is best" etc... rather just asking if you consider them as stable, in general. I am considering UltimaHD even thought it's ICS based, but really wanted to go up to JB if there is anything stable and worthy out there. I don't really care if it's AOKP, AOSP or Stock based.
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Yes, there is, use the Search tool. Then go read the topic and you will find a lot of information about the ROM from people, who have actually used it.
Someguyfromhell said:
Yes, there is, use the Search tool. Then go read the topic and you will find a lot of information about the ROM from people, who have actually used it.
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Oh, joy! A snarky reply! How wonderful. But you are right. I should have considered that "search" button in the firs.... Wait a God damn minute! I DID!
As opposed to your usual noob, I actually took the time to search. My research (although I am sure flawed) is what led me to conclude that maybe UltimaHD would be the best choice for me. Also, I found numerous ROMs. Searching for 4.1.2 in titles only returned a bucketload of results for ICS ROMs (yes, that's right... you can even try it if you want). In those I did find mention to 1 MIUI ROM and 1 [rom][update jb][4.1.2]arc/s v06. MIUI is not something I'm interested in using right now. The second, I can't quite figure out if it's a daily driver or not. Also, many of the ROMs seem to be ICS/JB mixes.
The ARC S is not my phone. I have a SIII. I'm trying to compile the necessary info to decide what ROM to flash on the device (which actually belongs to my wife). Not having much time to flash as many ROMs as I do on my SIII, I thought maybe I'd rather ask the people that have actually used and tested available ROMs, rather than flashing one now and having my wife tell me it's no good a few days later and having to do it all over again. So far I have managed to figure out how to unlock bootloader (I hope, because I'll only be doing it tomorrow evening), root the device using flashtool (still not sure if it'll work on stock 4.0.4 but from what I have read so far, I gather it will), and flash a recovery. Am still a bit unclear on all the boot.img flashing that goes on and why it's necessary. Seems to me this has to do with the data partition. Of course I could be wrong.
So again, sorry if I "didn't" use the search button first. I'll try and not have it happen again. Oh, and thanks so much for the help. /end sarcasm
Jeeezzzzz I am so sick and tired of everyone just assuming we don't search before asking questions. Have you ever stopped to consider the reasons behind the questions? No disrespect, dude, I can see you are a senior member and have a really nice post count. I'm sure you have made valuable contributions to this community. But just assuming stuff doesn't really suit you.
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Oh, joy! A snarky reply! How wonderful. But you are right. I should have considered that "search" button in the firs.... Wait a God damn minute! I DID!
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To be fair, having read your post I have to wonder why the need to start a new thread, especially when you still have THIS one going.
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Jeeezzzzz I am so sick and tired of everyone just assuming we don't search before asking questions. Have you ever stopped to consider the reasons behind the questions? No disrespect, dude, I can see you are a senior member and have a really nice post count. I'm sure you have made valuable contributions to this community. But just assuming stuff doesn't really suit you.
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Again, I didn't quite understand the point of starting a new thread so myself found it annoying to see you asking what you have, "Not asking "which ROM is best" etc", not directly you might not be but essentially, it is what you're asking, and some of us are sick of seeing such threads posted and this sums up why...
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I can't agree more. Which ROM is the fastest? Which kernel is best? etc. etc. It's like walking into a bar and asking which drink is the best. You can't get your answer because every person around has a personal taste and looking for something different.
Going further. Telling that one ROM is better than another is quite disrespectful to developers. Most of them spent much time making their work for FREE and one guy can easily depreciate their work.
If you're looking for answer - try. It's easy and making it on your own is much funnier than looking for spoon feeding in every situations. Thinking is fun
Just my 3 grosz.
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As this isn't you're Phone, as I said on my other thread, root, remove bloatware and tweak a stock ROM.
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To be fair, having read your post I have to wonder why the need to start a new thread, especially when you still have THIS one going.
Again, I didn't quite understand the point of starting a new thread so myself found it annoying to see you asking what you have, "Not asking "which ROM is best" etc", not directly you might not be but essentially, it is what you're asking, and some of us are sick of seeing such threads posted and this sums up why...
As this isn't you're Phone, as I said on my other thread, root, remove bloatware and tweak a stock ROM.
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Yes, you are right. I still have another thread going. But I didn't want to muddy the waters. I want to keep it separate. The focus of this thread was to understand if there is a working, for daily use, JB ROM out there. For ICS I am already pretty convinced Ultimate is the way to go as far as what I am looking for. Your reply in the other thread was most appreciated and was actually what I had considered, before I got the "go ahead" from the wife. Again, thanks for the tip. But now the circumstances have changed and flashing a ROM is now an option. For this reason I am just trying to figure out if I should opt for aosp 4.1.2, 4.2.1 or CM 10(.1) based on user experience when it comes to stability and broken features or bugs. I do not need anyone to tell me which ROM is best. I have already been told to avoid "which ROM is best" threads and I intend to do as told. But honest to God that's not what I want here. Just opinions regarding aosp 4.1.2, 4.2.1 or CM 10(.1). In general. Don't need anyone saying X rom is better or whatnot. And I am terribly sorry if this is how it came across. As for trying ROM's, I'm all for it. I have Obsessive Rom Disorder myself and am a total flashaholic. I flash ROMs to my phones like every other day at the latest. But as you pointed out my other thread, you can see that flashing dozens of roms to the ARC is not an option. I am trying to find what is or isn't stable so I can decide on the path to go, and then choose a ROM based on that. Imagine I flash 4.1.2 only to find it FC's a lot using camera app or whatever. Or that wifi is unstable and she really relies on wifi daily for work. Or anything else. I check the ROM threads for known bugs, but many a rom here on XPERIA ARC sub-forums don't list bugs, either because they have non, or because OP's don't post them. I tend to think it's probably the former and not the latter, but since I am quite used to seeing some sort of buglist, I am not sure and so, of course, hesitant.
Please, please don't think I mean to be disrespectful. Or rude. Or just plain annoying. It's just that I really can't afford to get this wrong. I need to get this right first time round (or at least within the first couple of tries) so my wife can continue to work with the phone and not come to me saying "this and that don't work".
I appreciate the community. I have learned a whole lot from you guys. I support devs when I can through donations (small for sure, but I tend to donate what I can afford from time to time). And I answer whenever I think I can help and contribute. It's just I get so annoyed when I see people just assuming I didn't search.
Sorry for the rant.
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Please, please don't think I mean to be disrespectful. Or rude. Or just plain annoying. It's just that I really can't afford to get this wrong. I need to get this right first time round (or at least within the first couple of tries) so my wife can continue to work with the phone and not come to me saying "this and that don't work".
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I understand your need to get it right but you'd had some good responses in the other thread which you could of followed up, and unfortunately it obviously has come across as annoying, but we're a forgiving community. The best thing to do when trying to decide is to read through the last few pages of a ROM thread and see what's being reported, just because a ROM might work right to begin with, unknown conflicts might start to arise when the Phones been used for a prolonged period of time, an update to a certain app breaks something etc, and while for many it may not be an issue because they'll just come and get a fix or wait for an update to something that might not bother them but bothers the next user, I wouldn't go the custom ROM route, but she's your Wife at the end of the day so it's not my balls on the line.
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I understand your need to get it right but you'd had some good responses in the other thread which you could of followed up, and unfortunately it obviously has come across as annoying, but we're a forgiving community. The best thing to do when trying to decide is to read through the last few pages of a ROM thread and see what's being reported, just because a ROM might work right to begin with, unknown conflicts might start to arise when the Phones been used for a prolonged period of time, an update to a certain app breaks something etc, and while for many it may not be an issue because they'll just come and get a fix or wait for an update to something that might not bother them but bothers the next user, I wouldn't go the custom ROM route, but she's your Wife at the end of the day so it's not my balls on the line.
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I hear you. And I have succesfuly managed to root the phone. Am now in the process of doing a Titanium Backup of the device and a NANDROID too. I don't really want to flash custom. I'd rather tweak as you suggested, but to be honest, I have no idea where to begin with this device.