Do cyanogen ever complete a rom? - Samsung Epic 4G Touch

Every rom I see by that team is always a alpha version I have yet to see a fully completed rom by that team.
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Yes they do? How about cm 7?
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aimbdd said:
Yes they do? How about cm 7?
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or CM6, CM5 etc...

A better question would be is a rom ever complete? There will always be bugs that are found that do need to be fixed just like Android in general it's never really "done" there are always updates to it that fix things.

What gingerbread rom do they have for our phone. Looking to try them out.
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blackdragon79 said:
What gingerbread rom do they have for our phone. Looking to try them out.
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Well you do realize that our phone is CDMA, Proprietary code is not available for some of the hardware which greatly increases the time it takes to develop our phones ports.
If you like the idea of a Complete CyanogenMod you should grab an international GSM phone preferably a stock AOSP device. You will have a "complete" rom alot faster than you ever will with a sprint device.
The OG epic only became officially supported not long ago.

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What gingerbread rom do they have for our phone. Looking to try them out.
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There is no "official" GB rom from CM for this phone. Rootzwiki has an "unofficial" CM7.1/2 that's no longer supported however. We are getting "official" CM9 and the Alpha 1 is in the Dev section.

Lol wut? Is this your first android device?

nickwn88 said:
Lol wut? Is this your first android device?
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Lol
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cidica said:
There is no "official" GB rom from CM for this phone. Rootzwiki has an "unofficial" CM7.1/2 that's no longer supported however. We are getting "official" CM9 and the Alpha 1 is in the Dev section.
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I was told that the Alpha 1 wasn't official.?

There are at least 3 or 4 Cyanogenmod attempts for our phone, isn't that a set team that always develops or can anyone attempt a Cyanogenmod? Don't understand how there can be multiple Cyanogenmod ROMs for our phone?

darklavalizard said:
There are at least 3 or 4 Cyanogenmod attempts for our phone, isn't that a set team that always develops or can anyone attempt a Cyanogenmod? Don't understand how there can be multiple Cyanogenmod ROMs for our phone?
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I think you mean to say there are multiple AOSP-based (original ICS w/o Touchwiz) ROMs for our phone.
Sbrissen and Darchstar are currently working on CM9 for our phone.
T.C.P. has released AOKP, Gummy, and Codename Android for our phone.

darklavalizard said:
There are at least 3 or 4 Cyanogenmod attempts for our phone, isn't that a set team that always develops or can anyone attempt a Cyanogenmod? Don't understand how there can be multiple Cyanogenmod ROMs for our phone?
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Anyone is free to take the CM code and build their own ROM. That's the beauty of open source. All they ask is that such derivative builds are labeled as kangs or otherwise make note that they are using CM9's codebase.
Anyone can become a member of CM if they do good work such as committing bug fixes to the project and take a role in supporting CM on a particular device
Darchstar's build should be considered the "official" CM9 build for our phone. He's part of the CM team. However, until he or others are able to build a working kernel from source for the E4GT and not use Samsung's we won't have a truly CM9 build.

blackdragon79 said:
Every rom I see by that team is always a alpha version I have yet to see a fully completed rom by that team.
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No rom is complete without official ice release.. they don't even have source for our phones yet for ics. Therefore it cannot be completed.. plus kudos to the person who said it will never be complete based off of bugs plus there are always ways to improve a rom regardless; of how "complete" it is.. would you want a dev to make a rom then never update it? They can't make it official until everything is working..
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Nothing is ever finished in android
Notice the carriers always pushing fixes. ICS will probably be updated within a month after official drops.
Just the nature of the beast.
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Android has become more and more complex to develop for (both in terms of skill and computing power), and the true developers (not including people who just modify existing roms) have become more spread out across devices.
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[Q] Gingerbread Sourcecode

With the release today of CyanogenMod7, (http://www.cyanogenmod.com/blog/cyanogenmod-7-0-released) I seem to remember that the Gingerbread source code was released for the Galaxy S line of phones a couple months back. Are there any Dev's working on Gingerbread for the Epic4g?
Facepalm
That is all.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=992318
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=992318
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I knew about this one but now that 7 has been released the EPIC is not being supported from what I saw on their website. Maybe the Epic4G Alpha 4 is a special project that is just not covered in the link that I provided.
Any other Devs working on 2.3 for Epic4g?
Yes, but it is a gingerbread port from the original galaxy s, since the source code for gingerbread is not out for the epic, we cannot code for much, so no developers are really going to work on making a rom for this. Cyanogen mod is made up of custom source code, so it is basically built from scratch, thats why this is the only gingerbread rom avaliable to date
pre2epic4g said:
I knew about this one but now that 7 has been released the EPIC is not being supported from what I saw on their website. Maybe the Epic4G Alpha 4 is a special project that is just not covered in the link that I provided.
Any other Devs working on 2.3 for Epic4g?
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Its based on the same source just doesn't have official support from the cm team yet.. they have to make sure their fixes don't break anything for other phones before they can become official, cm team seems to not want hackery, they are wanting to become a distro, not a port.. the epic team has come a long way in a short time so I don't think it will be long to gather official support, but who know...
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[ROM][KANG][CM9] | [16/12/2011] | inofficial CM9 - ICS Builds | GSM Version

Hi, to get a feeling about the CM9 - ICS progress, i am building CM9 Kangs from the actual cyanogen source.
Fell free to use them ON YOUR OWN RISK.
This is not an official cyanogenMOD release and you will not get official support from the cyanogen dev team.
I will update the KANG if there are important changes.
DOWNLOAD
http://dl.thomaskuepper.net/update-cm-9.0.0-RC0-GN-KANG-signed.zip
Google Apps
http://dl.thomaskuepper.net/gapps-ics-20111125-2.zip
Flashing
* Boot into Clockwork
* Make a FULL NAND Backup
* Wipe dalvik and cache
* Flash ROM + Google Apps
* Reboot
many thanks to the CM Team, i take no credit on all of this.
erm... there are no changes in the sources... only the ones from the original google devs...?
or where did you get the Sources from?
jim_panse said:
erm... there are no changes in the sources... only the ones from the original google devs...?
or where did you get the Sources from?
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as i said it is the cyanogen source.
github.com/cyanogenmod
So no actual CM Code in it, only stock code.
Yeah and also using these gapps gtalk is FC for me (in my own KANGs of the source that is.)
edit: There are minor changes from Google's sources: http://review.cyanogenmod.com/#q,status:merged+branch:ics,n,z
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erm... there are no changes in the sources... only the ones from the original google devs...?
or where did you get the Sources from?
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http://review.cyanogenmod.com/#q,status:open,n,z
http://review.cyanogenmod.com/#q,status:merged,n,z
OP - thanks for posting CM9 nightlies
Oh, okay. Thank you. Only looked on the commits of github and there was nothing. Thank you for the link.
..........
I'll give it a try. Thanks for uploading. My Laptop is too weak to compile CM9
ZuluGen?
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phone_user said:
ZuluGen?
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oh no, someone recognized me .
not yet enough time to build a zulugen rom , but perhaps soon.
trismegistos said:
oh no, someone recognized me .
not yet enough time to build a zulugen rom , but perhaps soon.
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Later, when I buy GN, I will see Zulu rom
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Thank you very much!!!
I hope to see more of your work soon
MfG Daniel
CM9 is finally here!!!
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CM9 is finally here!!!
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Actually, a cm9 kang is here. Is the op a CM team dev? If not, does this have the approval of the team?
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yeeson said:
CM9 is finally here!!!
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Would love to see what work and what doesn't before flashing..
I wiped and flashed my GN yesterday and accidentally deleted all my backups, so i spent like 2 hours restoring the phone.. Don't feel like doing it again today.
Any willing guinea pigs around ??
bk201doesntexist said:
Actually, a cm9 kang is here. Is the op a CM team dev? If not, does this have the approval of the team?
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Thread says kang and unofficial. There has been kangs of cm9 for the galaxy nexus for awhile as cm9 nightlies aren't available yet.
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zephiK said:
Thread says kang and unofficial. There has been kangs of cm9 for the galaxy nexus for awhile as cm9 nightlies aren't available yet.
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Well, aren't those kangs from Koush? AFAIK he is a developer for CM, and a very talented one. But still, it's open-source, and he gives the proper credits. As long as people are aware this build is -probably- far from perfect (e.g. non working camera etc) then it's fine. I think. Unless CM object
EDIT: nvm, thought you mentioned the Nexus S (it's getting late)
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Thread says kang and unofficial. There has been kangs of cm9 for the galaxy nexus for awhile as cm9 nightlies aren't available yet.
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this is the first kang of cm i see around for galaxy nexus. and i've had the phone pretty much since its release.
Naturally, I know cm9 nightlies aren't available yet, I've used cm7 kangs built by me on SGS pretty much since last year, so i'm used to it's release schedule (NO ETA).
As it's not official, it will get no support from CM team. If you search around, you'll see that no kang can be called a CM rom unless it's released by a member of the team.
bk201doesntexist said:
this is the first kang of cm i see around for galaxy nexus. and i've had the phone pretty much since its release.
Naturally, I know cm9 nightlies aren't available yet, I've used cm7 kangs built by me on SGS pretty much since last year, so i'm used to it's release schedule (NO ETA).
As it's not official, it will get no support from CM team. If you search around, you'll see that no kang can be called a CM rom unless it's released by a member of the team.
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Kangs has been posted on twitter by the guys at euroskank: http://fitsnugly.euroskank.com/skankwich/maguro/
Maguro is our code name so I'm sure those are the CM9 kangs for our phones. It just hasn't been posted on XDA but its been going around twitter for the past couple of days.
You don't have to be a developer at CM to post their releases if its kangs. He's not taking credit, it is all credited to CM and CM is purely open source. There isn't really a "developer" for CM, if you want to contribute. Go ahead, nothings stopping you, it just has to be approved thats all. (Pretty much what you said), and I'm sure everything is working. I had a Nexus S using CM9 kangs constructed by FuZZ and guys at euroskank and everything worked except video.
So I'm sure that maguro would be fine because all the library files for Galaxy Nexus are already available. But everything is still a alpha build. It's considered alpha because a lot of the CM9 features are incomplete. The latest kang comes with DSP Manager so it's getting closer and closer for a beta as everyday goes by.
Numerous tweets (according from twitter) from various "CM devs" such as kmobs, koush (and probably more) have the device so I'm sure it will receive official support.

When to expect Paranoid Android on the Note 2?

Strangely i didn't found people asking about that while searching on google...
Soon enough
Imilka has signed up for Note 2 dev list so we can expect a PA
Atleast i can say it WILL come. :good:
As ParanoidAndroid is based on cyanogenmod afaik, i`am afraid it still will take a while mate
Like... Months..?
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kojinmalia said:
Like... Months..?
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It depends on Samsung, they have to publish the scource codes of the kernel and other hardware components or CM cannot go ahed and start coding.
gee2012 said:
It depends on Samsung, they have to publish the scource codes of the kernel and other hardware components or CM cannot go ahed and start coding.
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They have posted. But the people in the US can't get a note 2 in their hands until November. That's the troubke
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argh,
really, if paranoid (or at least cm10/11) won't be available soon, that will make me buy these LG Nexus or whatever else Google may show us
Right now, there are no official porters for CM10 for the galaxy note.
Samsung, by not releasing exynos/framework documentation, basically has made it too difficult to develop CM10 for it.
The Note 1 developers basically got fed up and quit until Samsung makes it more practical.
So no CM10 means no PA.
We can hope that a new developer takes the reigns, but as the other poster said: we're in for a long wait.
- Frank
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They have posted. But the people in the US can't get a note 2 in their hands until November. That's the troubke
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Posted what? Where?
ipguy said:
Posted what? Where?
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http://www.google.com.hk/search?client=chrome-mobile&sourceid=chrome-mobile&ie=UTF-8&q=note+2+source
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ChodTheWacko said:
Right now, there are no official porters for CM10 for the galaxy note.
Samsung, by not releasing exynos/framework documentation, basically has made it too difficult to develop CM10 for it.
The Note 1 developers basically got fed up and quit until Samsung makes it more practical.
So no CM10 means no PA.
We can hope that a new developer takes the reigns, but as the other poster said: we're in for a long wait.
- Frank
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We have no official CM porters? since when are porters official its either original CM or ported CM
Anyways , atleast im more than 100% sure we WILL get ported cyanogen mod, and most probably PA too.
now ive used ported CM 10 on around 3 of other devices, and take my word if you havent tried it yet, a port totally depends on which device CM it is ported from. E.g. If we get ported cm 10, it will atleast be as much performing as CM 10 on S 3, whose hardware is resembling, because the porters will take as much help as they can from CM10 of S3...
And if CM10 may be ported, why not PA? its not like first CM has to be ported in order to port a PA second
Thats kernel source, not hardware sources, they are two separate things the CM team need both to make a fully working CM rom for this device (and any other modern Samsung device)

[REQ] Paranoid Android PIE port for Defy

www.youtube.com/watch?v=gT5XOWU8u-o
This is awesome. The PA guys released it just recently and it would be awesome on our Defy
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swapnil360 said:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=gT5XOWU8u-o
This is awesome. The PA guys released it just recently and it would be awesome on our Defy
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That's neat. Probably really hard to port since it relies on the closed source PAPreferences.apk and some of the open source PA modifications.
PIE is on PA 2.99 based on JB 10.1. As far as I know, our 10.1 isn't ready for daily use just yet (that might change with all the changes I saw on Quarx's github a while ago ). When it is, I plan on getting back to PA. I'm also willing to help anyone who'd like to try kanging it all together in the mean time.
In the mean time I'm working an ICS rom. Gonna include ICS PA, Salad Bar, and ICS Blur from the Atrix HD. Didn't plan on going full Blur, but some Blur services are required to get Smart Actions fully working (everything works except for location based triggers, requires Blur services framework). Figured if I was gonna have to use some Blue, might as well use it all .
Still have a ways to go, but its progressing.
it does not rely on paprefs. in fact nothing we ever did does. paprefs writes and reads name=value pairs to a textfile, nothing more. you dont need the app for hybrid engine or pie. having said that, pie is still under heavy development. we always build first and release later, we never release unfinished source, much like google does with the aosp.
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it does not rely on paprefs. in fact nothing we ever did does. paprefs writes and reads name=value pairs to a textfile, nothing more. you dont need the app for hybrid engine or pie. having said that, pie is still under heavy development. we always build first and release later, we never release unfinished source, much like google does with the aosp.
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I assumed PAPrefs was a requirement for PIE since I've seen it bundled with framework-res.apk and systemui.apk for other devices to try it out. Since that's not the case, cool beans. Sorry about the misinformation.
/Yep, I assumed. We all know what that makes me
@molesarecoming: I wonder how you find this post to answer. xD I still can't forget the help you and Darkenesys provided when I first started to port the ICS PA for Defy.
About the Pie, its one of the coolest thing happened to Android. You guyz are getting bigger and bigger, even the big OEMs will try to copy you soon so get ready to be more famous.
@Skeevy: good luck mate.
Cmx has Pie too xD
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Is that a Defy in that video?
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Is that a Defy in that video?
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No, it isn't a Defy.
AW: [REQ] Paranoid Android PIE port for Defy
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[discussion] aosp and cm

why dont u people try to build an AOSP rom instead ofa CM....coz probably cm is sumthing that is modifications made to AOSP....and even the touchwiz ui is modified AOSP so if we can have a AOSP build itll probably be easier for us to build these roms..
...if sum one is ready to help me learn about building roms from source ill sure try making CM's and AOKP and paranoid and what not
is better but its based on AOSP.....its like imagine AOSP as a stock rom and CM as a custom rom...wait why imagine..its actually like that....so the basic idea is to improve performance...where CM show up...but whats the base CM uses??...its AOSP....so if we have a perfect AOSP which is obv possible...coz Samsung wouldn't be able to build TouchWiz withouta base...for obv reasons...so why not try building an AOSP first and then continuing with CM
do u even know whatcha sayin?
tl;dr
Here's some math:
No sources = no base
No base = no sources
No sources = no cm
No cm = no aosp
So unless you try to find a way to make those proprietary sources available then I'd suggest doing some research.
Also even if you tried you'll fail, we have the best devs for sgy working hard for that goal and we're honestly not making good progress. Well except for percy and his cm9 and psycho's cm7 but still a long way from "stable as stock".
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My information might not be correct. A friend of mine told me this.
See cm is made by aftermarket developers keeping in mind that it can support lot of different phones.
On the other hand aosp was made for nexus phones so they don't give a damn that it works on other phones or not. They are just selfish lol.
So building pure aosp is tougher compared to cm. Cm has modifications on aosp to support different phones.
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prototype-U said:
My information might not be correct. A friend of mine told me this.
See cm is made by aftermarket developers keeping in mind that it can support lot of different phones.
On the other hand aosp was made for nexus phones so they don't give a damn that it works on other phones or not. They are just selfish lol.
So building pure aosp is tougher compared to cm. Cm has modifications on aosp to support different phones.
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Naman...we haven't tried making AOSP yet so we cant just confirm this and it cant be that it was made for nexus only coz its an open source project so they must have probably kept in mind that many dev's will try to have it on different devices ..... the Gingerbread that our SGY uses is nothing but a custom rom of the aosp which we call as stock....
for obv reasons...samsung would not have made their own android os right...they have used google sources....the point is...the time dev's have spent on making CM if would have been focused on AOSP we might just have a build close enough to psycho's work!
and what ive learned or i might be wrong in this that psycho used aosp's sources for the fixes....Maybe wrong about this...i just read it somewhere here!.....and as our device has the largest community of awesome dev's why not we try the AOSP thing out??
we cant just conclude without trying...can we??......some months back people were like we wont have a CM....we have a working CM7 and CM9 which are working pretty fine except for the driver bugs....same way,we might just end up having an AOSP...
another hope to Young GT-S6310. need a great developers to make it true
prototype-U said:
My information might not be correct. A friend of mine told me this.
See cm is made by aftermarket developers keeping in mind that it can support lot of different phones.
On the other hand aosp was made for nexus phones so they don't give a damn that it works on other phones or not. They are just selfish lol.
So building pure aosp is tougher compared to cm. Cm has modifications on aosp to support different phones.
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Maybe you should see this. www.cyanogenmod.org/about
And also about android opensource project. Google gives aosp source to all manufacturers as part of aosp allience/programme which they further modify. And first phone running android was not nexus to say that they don't give damn about other devices. And the number of devices running CM is still very low.
Like I said, a friend told me about it.
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If we get a set of experienced Devs who want to help out we might get aosp
Also if stock is like a custom aosp
That means our phone must support AOSP!!
Only need some experience Devs :sly:
As i said its all about aosp....just need sum1 to teach me these sources and setup stuff....i would like to start working on it as soon as possible!
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Our devs are already experienced :sly:
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Our devs are already experienced :sly:
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he is trying to tell we need dev's who have experiance compiling source roms not dev's who are great with adding tweaks and theming the our samsung stock rom's.....source compiling is far different from the rom i made or many of the roms available in our threads....
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he is trying to tell we need dev's who have experiance compiling source roms not dev's who are great with adding tweaks and theming the our samsung stock rom's.....source compiling is far different from the rom i made or many of the roms available in our threads....
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There are very less people or maybe no one who has source development experience.
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There are very less people or maybe no one who has source development experience.
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i know...thats the reason ive been looking around google for sumthing that could get me some help .........its hard i guess ill have to take percy's help :?
How about making thread "all devs come here please help us to compile cm for our device" in another device board? Lol jk
Reynaldi said:
How about making thread "all devs come here please help us to compile cm for our device" in another device board? Lol jk
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Veru funny dude! ( --..-- )
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Reynaldi said:
How about making thread "all devs come here please help us to compile cm for our device" in another device board? Lol jk
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Really bro?._.
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I am new here.......
Don't be rude and hit thanks
Device : Samsung Galaxy Y
ROM : Hyperion 8 pre gm alsa build 0.2
KERNEL : Savie's
I say start saving money for a new phone.
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I say start saving money for a new phone.
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sorry naman but why buy a new phone? we have lots of roms and kernels. also we can oc the device to 1.25ghz and have a gpu. this is the best phone for a developer. even if it ends up bricking or lost, no regrets since a low cost phone. lets just finish what we started. perseverance is the key man.
sorry but i am not flaming you, i am a big fan of yours and i love the kernel
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sorry naman but why buy a new phone? we have lots of roms and kernels. also we can oc the device to 1.25ghz and have a gpu. this is the best phone for a developer. even if it ends up bricking or lost, no regrets since a low cost phone. lets just finish what we started. perseverance is the key man.
sorry but i am not flaming you, i am a big fan of yours and i love the kernel
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man.. they are just stock based roms.. everyone is upgrading these days, android 4.3 has been released and you are still on 2.3.6. Which makes you guys really outdated..
Kernel? yeah there are huge number of kernels here but if you notice that most of em have same features See other phones like nexus 4. They have whats called "real" kernel development.
Pico which is 1k more expensive is 100 times better than this phone and you also know it. Why not buy that? I sold my Y for 3.5k and another 3k can buy you a arm7 phone. Which wont get outdated for another year atleast..

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