[Q] Roaming Penalty - Samsung Epic 4G Touch

so I see that excessive roaming will prompt sprint to give you the boot with no warning but how does it work with family plans. if one person on the plan roams too much does the entire account get canceled or just that one phone number?

Just the line that abused it. Also the send you a letter telling you to stop first
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I got a letter from Sprint myself after I messed with my RTSP and HTTPD server settings. I read an article about speeding up network access like at my desk at work on an AT&T (roaming) network. After about 2 weeks of enjoying better coverage and speeds, I got a love letter from Sprint.
At first I had no clue, then I remembered I had messed with those settings. Turns out I was ONLY roaming with them. So now I put them back to stock and no issues with Sprint.
Actually, on Calkulins latest v1.2 ICS Rom, with the FC18 modem, I get 3G at my work where I only had a 1X network data connection before!

thanks for the info

So do I have to use calks rom plus fc18 modem for it to work
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ScubaSteev said:
So do I have to use calks rom plus fc18 modem for it to work
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Different devices, different areas, and different radios all play a part in your signal strength. There is not a one-size-fits-all, so try different modems, using each one a couple of days, and keep an eye on your signal strength.

ScubaSteev said:
So do I have to use calks rom plus fc18 modem for it to work
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Not sure what you mean by "it"

Wait...what does roaming mean in this case? I am going to get this phone soon, and I have been out of the loop for this community for a few months now. Is roaming a term for something mod related or does it just mean being in a roaming area.
My concern is that when I had the Epic, I rode the subway everyday and every 3 seconds my phone says "You are roaming" and does the annoying sound and screen, have they disabled this?

iball8888 said:
Wait...what does roaming mean in this case? I am going to get this phone soon, and I have been out of the loop for this community for a few months now. Is roaming a term for something mod related or does it just mean being in a roaming area.
My concern is that when I had the Epic, I rode the subway everyday and every 3 seconds my phone says "You are roaming" and does the annoying sound and screen, have they disabled this?
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It just means you are using another carrier's tower, not Sprint's... The default Sprint proxy settings on the phone are fine, but you can hack them and get into trouble if you do this.

I know this thread is somewhat old, but I wanted to share that the second letter I recently received from Sprint was one informing me that my account WILL be terminated as of July 17th.
I tried numerous times to explain that when I am at work, I am ALWAYS on roaming data. I use WiFi at home, so the only time I typically user Sprint 3G is during my commute. They said there were NO exceptions and the decision comes from Corporate and is FINAL. 18 years with my company and 8 in good standing with Sprint on different phones... And they axed me! My Epic 4G Touch apparently is rather data hungry...
So beware, peeps...
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You have be roaming at least 75% of the time (not an exact number, just ballpark) in order for Sprint to boot you.
Basically, while you're roaming, Sprint is having to pay the other carrier for your usage. If you're using the other network more than Sprint, it's not profitable to keep you.

Sunsparc said:
You have be roaming at least 75% of the time (not an exact number, just ballpark) in order for Sprint to boot you.
Basically, while you're roaming, Sprint is having to pay the other carrier for your usage. If you're using the other network more than Sprint, it's not profitable to keep you.
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Last I heard it was 300MB of roaming then they send the letter. Do it again over that limit and you get the boot.
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peanut1596 said:
Last I heard it was 300MB of roaming then they send the letter. Do it again over that limit and you get the boot.
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Yes, the letter says 300MB or the majority of 3G data. There were 2 months since November 2011 where
My roaming data % was more than non-roaming.
The thing that kills me is that my usage pattern hadn't changed across the last 3 phones I've had with them. The Google Play Store and all the apps connecting in the background had changed my consumption no doubt...
My E4GT is my first Android phone though, and they even made me pay an extra $10 per month for "premium data" with this phone because it is a "smartphone" (just like my previous Blackberry Curve)!
Wtf? Faaaaaaaq Sprint
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Do they make you pay an ETF when they do this? I know for most, roaming isn't an issue but some are on the edge of the network and are more likely to roam. Would kind of suck if they had to pay an ETF.

I'm expecting a letter reeeeeeeeeeaaaally soon. I used 2.5GB of roaming last month so I imagine they are a little pissy about that.
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KCRic said:
Do they make you pay an ETF when they do this? I know for most, roaming isn't an issue but some are on the edge of the network and are more likely to roam. Would kind of suck if they had to pay an ETF.
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Sprint did offer to waive the ETFs (2 off them) AND any recurring charges for the last month of service... Actually, on AT&T, I'm now getting better coverage and speed, both in and out of my workplace, and with the wife's employee discount we are paying less overall.
3GB data plan on each phone... Most I've ever used on Sprint is like 1.2GB.
One of the best things about the AT&T data plan is that if you go over the limit, for $10 they automatically add another GB, not cancel your account. And roaming data only applies to international data usage.
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I'm expecting a letter reeeeeeeeeeaaaally soon. I used 2.5GB of roaming last month so I imagine they are a little pissy about that.
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If your Sprint 3G data is more than your Sprint 3G roaming data, then they won't usually take any action other than maybe warning letters.
I'm sure my usage was costing them money, but my usage was costing ME plenty of money too!
I was happy about no ETFs and the free last month... but there should be legal implications for them since they don't report any of this on your invoice OR USAGE DETAILS. When I asked why there was no mention of the roaming data issue on my bill, they said that some things changed earlier this year, and their Marketing and Billing departments weren't on the same page yet.
This a$$ reaming was brought to you by Sprint... Bringing a whole new meaning to the term "Unlimited"...
GFY, Sprint. I hope you face legal action for screwing your customers over like this
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The problem is, there is no way to tell from your bill whether you are roaming on Sprint's network (as in, out of your home calling area) or roaming OFF of Sprint's network.
"Changes earlier this year" is BS. Their bill has stated "Sprint 3G Roaming - Unlimited" forever.

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The problem is, there is no way to tell from your bill whether you are roaming on Sprint's network (as in, out of your home calling area) or roaming OFF of Sprint's network.
"Changes earlier this year" is BS. Their bill has stated "Sprint 3G Roaming - Unlimited" forever.
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Their lack of reporting is BS too...
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10 plus year Sprint customer checking in here!
I've been using the EK02 modem combo'ed with PRL 11115 and Mr. Greg's ROAM Control for almost 3 months now, set to roam only and I haven't gotten a single letter, threat or anything!
I'm actually hoping to get one, I want out of my Sprint contract without paying the ETF, I'm sick of the slow 3G data speeds. Now before someone says well you've been a customer for over 10 years and you have resigned the contracts so you have no one else to blame but yourself, blah blah blah, back before the HTC EVO 4G, I didn't have these issues.
Over the past 3 years Sprints network has done to hell. My Samsung Instinct and my Palm Pre were FAST. I used them as modems for my laptop and everything else, NO problems. Browsing on them was FAST, no problems. Apps online on them, no problems. I get my EVO and its SLOW! That was about when 4G was coming so I waited it out and yep we finally GET 4G locally but only downtown. I keep hearing promisses of expansion blah blah blah so I renew picking up the Epic 4G Touch, oh, no more 4G expansion blah blah, LTE is the next big thing.
Well my Epic Touch is even slower then my EVO was.
Sprint got too big and there network just cant handle it.
My friends ATT Skyrocket blows my phone out of the water speed wise. Hell, just roaming to Verizon I get upward of a meg a second but on Sprint I'm luck to get 100 kbps. Sometimes it bursts to 600+ but it doesnt hold. Sometimes its as low as 20 kbps. Most webpages don't load.
I'm burned out.

they haven't sent me one yet..... crossing fingures

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What? Unlimited "won't" extend to LTE...

I was reading cnet and I came across this article. We all know by now about Sprint transitioning toward LTE, but what I didn't know according to cnet "Of course, this won’t extend to LTE, but offering unlimited 3G and WiMAX plans may be enough to keep many customers from jumping ship until Sprint’s a bit more competitive in the LTE market."
I thought we keep our unlimited data plan, after all I am paying $10 extra for the so called 4G, and when Sprints 4G speed catches up to all the other carriers, I have to switch to a capped plan?! I hope this is not true.
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http://m.intomobile.com/2011/12/05/sprint-launch-lte-devices-2h-2012/?page=1
http://www.fiercewireless.com/story/sprints-first-lte-handsets-coming-second-half-2012/2011-12-05
Article in OP seems out of context.
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xcharles718 said:
http://www.fiercewireless.com/story/sprints-first-lte-handsets-coming-second-half-2012/2011-12-05
Article in OP seems out of context.
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I read this before, what caught my attention is that folks on 3G and "clearwire 4G" keep their unlimited plan. So if I want 4G LTE, I have to switch plans?
Maybe I'm a bit jaded, but i've learned to expect nothing in concessions or good will from Sprint. There is a clear movement toward penny pinching with current subscribers (fees, SERO) and crowd pleasing with new subscribers (iPhone, "unlimited" data... for a fee).
Who knows, maybe they parlay the current premium data fee into a double-premium data $20 fee for LTE devices, with a $10 admin fee. Probably not, but rewind two years and ask yourself if you'd expect them to do what they did in the last 6 quarters...
It will probably depend on the success of current spectrum deals and LTE rollout speed. Sprint's LTE on its own is not enough because they have only half the spectrum of Verizon. However, if Clearwire and Lightsquared successfully develop their LTE networks, then Sprint may still be able to offer unlimited 4G LTE to subscribers.
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It will probably depend on the success of current spectrum deals and LTE rollout speed. Sprint's LTE on its own is not enough because they have only half the spectrum of Verizon. However, if Clearwire and Lightsquared successfully develop their LTE networks, then Sprint may still be able to offer unlimited 4G LTE to subscribers.
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Hmm... ok. Well would it be worth it to stay with Sprint IF they limit data since Sprint's LTE is apparently only half of what Verizon has?
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Hmm... ok. Well would it be worth it to stay with Sprint IF they limit data since Sprint's LTE is apparently only half of what Verizon has?
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If unlimited data plans disappear, I will probably leave Sprint. But it will also depend on pricing and coverage where I live at the time.
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If unlimited data plans disappear, I will probably leave Sprint. But it will also depend on pricing and coverage where I live at the time.
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+1 for me also
Alex1x said:
I thought we keep our unlimited data plan, after all I am paying $10 extra for the so called 4G, and when Sprints 4G speed catches up to all the other carriers, I have to switch to a capped plan?! I hope this is not true.
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That is funny.. A while ago I was on the phone and I was *****ing at sprint in my most professional manner and I said that.. "I'm paying extra for this 4g that I can't even take advantage of because of my area" The lady was quick to correct me and call it the premium data package. I love how they change the wording to avoid issue.
I'm confident that I too wil be leaving sprint. My bill really isn't much cheaper than my friends who have Verizon or ATT. Pretty much what pushed me over the edge was when they got rid of my ability to upgrade every year and then also took away the 1 year contract. I'll more than likely buy whatever phone I want and never be held to a contract again but the value in me being able to get a new phone every year and sell my old one.. Well that was too good to pass up. With out that ability.. See ya.
One thing I found crazy is that Sprint has a deadline for when they expect to have their LTE deployment finished. That really makes me feel like where I live.. I will never see it. I doubt that they are still deploying WiMax and their 3G network is absolutely slooooowwwww.
If it were not for the Galaxy S II with a notification light I might not be with sprint now hahah.
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That is funny.. A while ago I was on the phone and I was *****ing at sprint in my most professional manner and I said that.. "I'm paying extra for this 4g that I can't even take advantage of because of my area" The lady was quick to correct me and call it the premium data package. I love how they change the wording to avoid issue.
I'm confident that I too wil be leaving sprint. My bill really isn't much cheaper than my friends who have Verizon or ATT. Pretty much what pushed me over the edge was when they got rid of my ability to upgrade every year and then also took away the 1 year contract. I'll more than likely buy whatever phone I want and never be held to a contract again but the value in me being able to get a new phone every year and sell my old one.. Well that was too good to pass up. With out that ability.. See ya.
One thing I found crazy is that Sprint has a deadline for when they expect to have their LTE deployment finished. That really makes me feel like where I live.. I will never see it. I doubt that they are still deploying WiMax and their 3G network is absolutely slooooowwwww.
If it were not for the Galaxy S II with a notification light I might not be with sprint now hahah.
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I too am switching...this Thursday or Friday when the galaxy nexus arrives. I'm going to take advantage of Verizon's awesome service in my area, that's almost 2mbps 3g and over 20mbps lte, my employer discount of 19 percent, double data promotion and the Google supported galaxy nexus.
Coming from sprints 200 kbps 3g speeds here and no 4g, this is gonna be a hell of an upgrade.
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Jayavarman said:
If unlimited data plans disappear, I will probably leave Sprint. But it will also depend on pricing and coverage where I live at the time.
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Well said.
Jayavarman said:
If unlimited data plans disappear, I will probably leave Sprint. But it will also depend on pricing and coverage where I live at the time.
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Same for me
I've been waiting for 3G to be fixed in Milwaukee since 2009 when I had the Hero. Every month I get a new excuse that they're upgrading the towers in my area later on in the month.
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I really wish that the people leaving would stop threatening it and just do it.
These idle threats have been going on since January on XDA.
Leave. Please, so we can get back to actual discussions about android and developing etc instead of whining about a problem with a simple solution to no end.
Err0rist said:
I've been waiting for 3G to be fixed in Milwaukee since 2009 when I had the Hero. Every month I get a new excuse that they're upgrading the towers in my area later on in the month.
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Data here in Wauwatosa is sometimes fast, sometimes slow. Just sitting in my house, I can go from 150KBps (kiloBYTES) to 5KBps in the same evening from one day to the next at the same general time.
However, when I'm in Chicago, Sprint has far better data speeds than my co-workers who are on Verizon.
So weird.
To clear up one misconception: we're not paying the $10 for 4G. Sprint stopped claiming that early on. It's on all premium phones, even the ones that don't support 4G. They claim it's a premium for premium phones which are more likely to use the network more heavily. No tie directly to 4G at all anymore.
Dalmus said:
Data here in Wauwatosa is sometimes fast, sometimes slow. Just sitting in my house, I can go from 150KBps (kiloBYTES) to 5KBps in the same evening from one day to the next at the same general time.
However, when I'm in Chicago, Sprint has far better data speeds than my co-workers who are on Verizon.
So weird.
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Anecdotal speed test conducted today at a Chicago area Starbucks:
My ET4G w/ EK02 modem: 4 megabit down
Friend's Thunderbolt LTE CM7: 17 megabit down
We ended up tethering my phone off his device so he can play around with it and render a few commonly visited webpages to "experience" dual core/1gb ram.
He's gonna buy the Nexus Prime off-contract next week D:
I always forget about 4g, since we don't (officially) have it in the Milwaukee area.
The one unofficial 4g tower I'm ever around (near the airport) gives me about 12mbit. Of course, in that area I pull almost 2mbit on 3g there...
I know the sprint 4g towers have a very short range... Once I get more than a mile away from the 4g, the speeds drop dramatically fast. Knowing Sprint, they probably have just four towers covering all of Chicago.
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I never see anything over 250 kpbs at home, sometimes it's lower than 30 kbps. I can't drive and stream music or even watch youtube videos on 3G. When I had my hero (2009) I was getting 1.3mbps constant.There's no way they've been working on the towers for over a year with no results. We're paying for 3G and 4G and not getting either.
There's a rumor on the sprint forum that sprint sold half of their towers to cricket mobile.
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Here's how I honestly read this article:
Yadda yadda yadda... yadda yadda yadda...
....yadda yadda yadda...
....yadda yadda yadda...
nothing new here at all...
...same ol' stuff we've been talking about for several months....yadda yadda yadda...
...yadda yadda yadda.... unsubstantiated claim with absolutely no evidence and in fact evidence to the contrary likely put in the article to cause drama and increase viewership...yadda yadda yadda...
end.
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[Q] Just got off the phone with CLEAR...

I'm looking into getting CLEAR's home internet service but I had a question for them first. I told them, "I am currently a Sprint customer with a 4G phone (my E4GT) and I am aware that Clear and Sprint use the same 4G network. I live in a very strong 4G area according to your coverage map and Sprint's coverage map, yet 4G signal doesn't penetrate my apartment. I have to step outside to get 4G signal. I am considering getting CLEAR home internet service but since my phones don't get 4G inside my apartment, would the same be true for CLEAR's home internet modem?"
They told me that even though they use the same towers and same technology, and that they built Sprint's 4G network for them, they are not the same signal. They told me CLEAR operates their service on a slightly different frequency and they don't share that network or bandwidth with Sprint 4G customers so I wouldn't be sharing the network with Sprint.
Is this all true or are they just trying to get me to sign up?
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I'm looking into getting CLEAR's home internet service but I had a question for them first. I told them, "I am currently a Sprint customer with a 4G phone (my E4GT) and I am aware that Clear and Sprint use the same 4G network. I live in a very strong 4G area according to your coverage map and Sprint's coverage map, yet 4G signal doesn't penetrate my apartment. I have to step outside to get 4G signal. I am considering getting CLEAR home internet service but since my phones don't get 4G inside my apartment, would the same be true for CLEAR's home internet modem?"
They told me that even though they use the same towers and same technology, and that they built Sprint's 4G network for them, they are not the same signal. They told me CLEAR operates their service on a slightly different frequency and they don't share that network or bandwidth with Sprint 4G customers so I wouldn't be sharing the network with Sprint.
Is this all true or are they just trying to get me to sign up?
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without knowing if this is technically true in any way...
i wouldn't trust a Clear rep with 2 cents, having dealt with them as a reseller for several years before dropping them for BS practices and dishonesty, and dealing with Other resellers lies.
kingdazy said:
without knowing if this is technically true in any way...
i wouldn't trust a Clear rep with 2 cents, having dealt with them as a reseller for several years before dropping them for BS practices and dishonesty, and dealing with Other resellers lies.
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Good to know. I'm not completely uninformed. I know that Clear operates on more frequencies than just the ones our phones are able to pick up on but from that to saying they don't share bandwidth or network at all with Sprint 4G customers is a bit of a stretch for me. I'm not so sure that's true...
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Good to know. I'm not completely uninformed. I know that Clear operates on more frequencies than just the ones our phones are able to pick up on but from that to saying they don't share bandwidth or network at all with Sprint 4G customers is a bit of a stretch for me. I'm not so sure that's true...
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I'm pretty sure there was a thread here on XDA that showed you how to change your WiMax MAC address so if you weren't on Sprint, you could use the MAC of your CLEAR modem in order to get 4G on your phone... So I'd think that the frequency is the same.
nivron said:
I'm pretty sure there was a thread here on XDA that showed you how to change your WiMax MAC address so if you weren't on Sprint, you could use the MAC of your CLEAR modem in order to get 4G on your phone... So I'd think that the frequency is the same.
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One thing has very little to do with the other actually, because the same is true of Comcast 4G WiMax modems that use CLEAR's network. Changing the MAC address is simply a way of getting the network to recognize your device as active but it has nothing to do with frequencies. I've heard CLEAR operates anywhere between 2.3 - 2.7 GHz while our phones' center frequencies put us between 2.5 and 2.6.
There has been lots of talk here on XDA about changing center frequencies (especially on the EVO) to take advantage of a bigger range of frequencies, which leads me to believe these other frequencies are indeed in use. I don't know if anyone's been able to do it, though. But even if they are in use, I'm just not sure how true their claim is that those frequencies provide better signal, are faster, and don't share bandwidth with Sprint 4G. That last claim seems a little out there for me.
You're good. I had a neighbor with clear that I used to leech of of and even with no sprint four g. In my place either from sprint, I was wifi at high speeds
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I've even had a few people with boost epics that got clear Wimax on their phones instead poof sprint but that's a tutorial that breaks warrantee
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justlovejoy said:
You're good. I had a neighbor with clear that I used to leech of of and even with no sprint four g. In my place either from sprint, I was wifi at high speeds
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Thank you! That was my worry, that if I didn't have Sprint 4G indoors, I wouldn't get CLEAR 4G either. You just helped. I'll give them a try and hope for the best. Worst case scenario, I'll return the equipment before the first 15 days are up.
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Thank you! That was my worry, that if I didn't have Sprint 4G indoors, I wouldn't get CLEAR 4G either. You just helped. I'll give them a try and hope for the best. Worst case scenario, I'll return the equipment before the first 15 days are up.
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You'll be lucky if they let you return the equipment within that window. One of my idiot roommates in college signed us up for their shady ass service in our apartment... We got one "bar" and 56k speeds. They would not let us cancel (even within the window) because we technically "had service". It took months to get that straightened out without having to pay cancellation fees... I can't remember how many conversations we had or how many techs they sent out... But hey, maybe they are different now? This was over four years ago... We ended up with Comcast.
Check out clearwiresucks.com
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You'll be lucky if they let you return the equipment within that window. One of my idiot roommates in college signed us up for their shady ass service in our apartment... We got one "bar" and 56k speeds. They would not let us cancel (even within the window) because we technically "had service". It took months to get that straightened out without having to pay cancellation fees... I can't remember how many conversations we had or how many techs they sent out... But hey, maybe they are different now? This was over four years ago... We ended up with Comcast.
Check out clearwiresucks.com
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Thanks for the heads up. They assured me since there is no contract, I could cancel at any time within that window and get all my money back but I've made my decision and I am not going to get service with the. I gave their "Acceptable Use" policy a read and it sounds like a lot of double talk. "Unlimited but only under our terms and if we think you are using too much data we will throttle you without warning and we won't tell you what we deem is 'too much data'... blah blah blah."
I bet they copied-and-pasted that stuff from AT&T's stance on their customers who were grandfathered in with their unlimited plans.
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Thanks for the heads up. They assured me since there is no contract, I could cancel at any time within that window and get all my money back but I've made my decision and I am not going to get service with the. I gave their "Acceptable Use" policy a read and it sounds like a lot of double talk. "Unlimited but only under our terms and if we think you are using too much data we will throttle you without warning and we won't tell you what we deem is 'too much data'... blah blah blah."
I bet they copied-and-pasted that stuff from AT&T's stance on their customers who were grandfathered in with their unlimited plans.
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I think you made the right choice. Check out that site rofl
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Haha, CLEAR. What a joke of a company. Stay far away from their lies and shady practices.
I tried out CLEAR ~1.5 years ago, and they assured me I'd get good data speeds, but I would get even better speeds in about 1-2 months as they were going to build a tower even closer to where I live (the rep even gave me the cross streets).
Well, I got crap data speeds, and returned it within 2 weeks. And to this day, their data map still shows no new towers where I live.
Clear is terrible. Customer right now and I signed a contract. Can't wait to get out of it
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Wow, I've yet to find someone who says something complimentary about CLEAR. So glad I'm staying away.
kindaskimpy said:
Wow, I've yet to find someone who says something complimentary about CLEAR. So glad I'm staying away.
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You guys don't know anything about Clear !!! If you want optimized download speeds, all you need it to rotate your modem ... problem solved... at least that's what they're saying here, and I can't stop laughing ...
http://www.clear.com/support/faq/connection-issues/connectionsignal/optimizing-your-connection
STAY AWAY FROM CLEAR !!!
Their lowest plan is $35/month for 1.5 Mbits/sec ... Even if this service would be $15/month, I would still have a hard time justifying the amount of money for the service. 3G runs at this speed (for me at home, not everywhere else) and it comes part of the service without additional cost, so why spend the money in the first place ???
Stay away biggest mistake of my life
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Same here downloading leaked ics at 62/kbs
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Same here downloading leaked ics at 62/kbs
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Uploading ICS at 5/kbps
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Same here downloading leaked ics at 62/kbs
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You need to be getting on Sbrissen's case so you can start uploading aokp!! lol

Sprint Roaming Letter - read/understand/adjust

Many people have complained, but no one seems to post what the letter looks like or what it actually says.
Sprint cell phone plans are not truly unlimited, but they are generous. Roaming is capped at 300mb or a majority of data usage and 800 minutes in a month. On network usage is a little tricky. They will let you use A LOT, but there is a point where they'll send you a letter for excessive usage. If you're like the guy that got caught using 100GB to tether and host MW3, of course you'll get a similar letter. But I would think you could easily use 50GB on-network and they's let it slide.
Attached is a copy of the letter I got from Sprint last month for roaming. I was under the impression, as it is advertised and listed in my bill, that ALL data usage was unlimited. I sent an email to Dan Hesse's CSR team and they called me back to explain the truth. The truth being, even though it's listed as unlimited in ads and on your bill, you in fact signed TOS agreeing to this limitation.
If you are ever having trouble with the regular CSRs, have a horrible experience, or feel you were wronged or not listened to, send an email to [email protected](DON'T ABUSE IT OR THEY'LL TAKE IT AWAY!). They have more authority and will call you and try to resolve the issue.
Look, we've got a pretty sweet deal when it comes to data. If you get one of these letters, you're probably doing something you shouldn't. I was and I got the warning. Now I've adjusted my usage to not whore the network and everyone's happy.
FYI: I was using Roam Control when I visited my girlfriend on weekends because she lives in the sticks and Sprint coverage sucks. And if your coverage sucks at your house ask for an Airave, it's free.
This ultimately IS false advertising and I am sure that at some point Sprint will get into trouble for it.
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This ultimately IS false advertising and I am sure that at some point Sprint will get into trouble for it.
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Nah, watch the commercial or read the ads and look at the fine print on the bottom. There's a phrase in there that makes it NOT false advertising... "terms and conditions apply"
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Nah, watch the commercial or read the ads and look at the fine print on the bottom. There's a phrase in there that makes it NOT false advertising... "terms and conditions apply"
There's always excptions
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The commercials say, "On Sprint" or "With Sprint" not "On Sprint while on a competitors network where Sprint is forced to pay out the ass."
Sprint is awesome and their policies are very consumer/hacker friendly. Dont ruin a good thing for the rest of us please.
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The commercials say, "On Sprint" or "With Sprint" not "On Sprint while on a competitors network where Sprint is forced to pay out the ass."
Sprint is awesome and their policies are very consumer/hacker friendly. Dont ruin a good thing for the rest of us please.
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Not sure why this is so hard to understand.
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People are confused and upset because, for one, who reads the 10,000 words of the TOS? And, if you look on your bill under roaming it list usage/unlimited. This is my current bill as an example:
Sprint 3G Data
Used
772,356KB / Unlimited
Remaining
Unlimited
Sprint 3G Data Roaming
Used
0KB / Unlimited
Remaining
Unlimited
Sprint 4G Data
Used
40,503KB / Unlimited
Remaining
Unlimited
Until Sprint changes the webpage to accurately show "/300,000KB", they will continue to get angry phone calls, accusations of bait and switch and threats of action from rightfully confused customers. In all fairness, it's their own fault their CSRs are getting yelled at.
I like the idea of being able to get out of my two year contract by roaming too much.
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People are confused and upset because, for one, who reads the 10,000 words of the TOS? And, if you look on your bill under roaming it list usage/unlimited. This is my current bill as an example:
Sprint 3G Data
Used
772,356KB / Unlimited
Remaining
Unlimited
Sprint 3G Data Roaming
Used
0KB / Unlimited
Remaining
Unlimited
Sprint 4G Data
Used
40,503KB / Unlimited
Remaining
Unlimited
Until Sprint changes the webpage to accurately show "/300,000KB", they will continue to get angry phone calls, accusations of bait and switch and threats of action from rightfully confused customers. In all fairness, it's their own fault their CSRs are getting yelled at.
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Even if sprint changed the verbage people wouldnt get it. Even if sprint spelled it out in big letters during their ads I feel that the average consumer who is not one of us on these forums will still no doubt about it here unlimited and be completely oblivious to the other obvious stated facts. Because other than the obvious facts, the average consumer is ignorant and wants what they want when they want it their way. I beleive we live in a Mcdonalds way now. Have it your way. People are seriously misguided in this day and age. /end rant
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Even if sprint changed the verbage people wouldnt get it. Even if sprint spelled it out in big letters during their ads I feel that the average consumer who is not one of us on these forums will still no doubt about it here unlimited and be completely oblivious to the other obvious stated facts. Because other than the obvious facts, the average consumer is ignorant and wants what they want when they want it their way. I beleive we live in a Mcdonalds way now. Have it your way. People are seriously misguided in this day and age. /end rant
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Honestly, reading the various threads here, even the average person {who posts about it, anyway} on these forums seems pretty ignorant when it comes to roaming.
The main problem is people don't know what on-network roaming is. I've posted at least three times over the past month why Sprint can say they have unlimited roaming *on-network* and what on-network roaming is vs off-network roaming.
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This ultimately IS false advertising and I am sure that at some point Sprint will get into trouble for it.
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No, that is wishful thinking on your part.
If you watch the commercials, they say unlimited roaming *on the Sprint network*.
If you don't know the difference between on-network and off-network roaming, do a bit of research.
I agree with you that it sucks, wholeheartedly, they just aren't making any false claims.
What is the difference between on and off network ROAMing? Since you cannot roam on your own network
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Agreed... there is always a fine print.. But also.agreed, they should not.advertise.unlimited when t&c apply which state that it is.in.fact not.unlimited.. If someone is on the home network, not doing anything illegal.but.has excessive.use for w.e reason sprint is saying they will.send a warning letter or.terminate service.. I can completely understand if they are using roam control to.force roam on another.network or.if they are tethering or using the.hotspot to host mw3 & use.100GB in a month are obviously both good reasons to.boot the person but for.people who.dont that purposely should not be.punished.. They should advtertise no data limit to an.extent, not truely.unlimited data, but.not.really if you read the fine print.. Data roaming is the same with any carrier.. Cant guarantee data service off sprint network, excessive roaming use.is.expensive.. But dont kick people who.are legit on the sprint network because they didnt read the fine.print and assumed because.it is.clearly advertised as.the ONLY.company with TRUELY unlimited data.. It should be no data cap and no data overages within reason.. And if someone wants to.pay for tethering, goes legit and.wants to host mw3 games amd has.excessive.use.i.dont think should be.kicked.either.. To me its a PR mess waiting to happen until sprint finally stops crazy advertising unlimited or.makes custs.more aware.of the terms and conditions..
Edit: since I work.all day for us cellular and cant have my phone on me on the work floor, and because.the rest of.the.time im at.home on.wifi, my data use.is less than 100mb and my min use is.even less since I only talk when its free, my.usage is.super low, most likely will.NEVER see one of.these letters. At my work i.saw the other.day a customer got.susp because.an old lady managed to.use 13GB in 3 days.on a 5GB limit and she said she only downloaded.Microsoft office and the.rest of.the weekend.she was gone.so.it.was.impossible, sprint, and any carrier knows what is normal.. People need to.understand, your mobile data is.no.subsitute.for.home internet lol, people use.your heads and.dont.abuse. It or soon we might not.have the option to.use.more.data then all other carriers
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What is the difference between on and off network ROAMing? Since you cannot roam on your own network
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You can roam on network.. Sprint doesnt.have towers.across every square inch of the country.. They can be roaming on network with sprints roaming partners, or.be.completely.off sprints network.and.roaming on a non roaming partners network.. Also, if you notice on the.bills, there is home area, then extended home area.. extended means you are withing the sprint coverage area but not on sprints tower.. Can be a number of factors like weather, sprint tower down, or mayne even location.. It all depends. Its confusing but really.not.once you understand the.cellular lingo
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What is the difference between on and off network ROAMing? Since you cannot roam on your own network
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Say you live in Milwaukee, a Sprint service area. You purchased your phone and your plan there. Then you travel to Miami, another Sprint service area. You are now "roaming" on-network because you are out of your HOME service area, but still on the Sprint network.
Now, let's say you travel to visit family in northern Wisconsin in the middle of the forest. The only reception you get is Alltel (owned by Cellular One, I believe). You are now roaming off-network.
This is a holdover from the early days of cell phones when networks were NOT nationwide, but rather were region-wide.
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Say you live in Milwaukee, a Sprint service area. You purchased your phone and your plan there. Then you travel to Miami, another Sprint service area. You are now "roaming" on-network because you are out of your HOME service area, but still on the Sprint network.
Now, let's say you travel to visit family in northern Wisconsin in the middle of the forest. The only reception you get is Alltel (owned by Cellular One, I believe). You are now roaming off-network.
This is a holdover from the early days of cell phones when networks were NOT nationwide, but rather were region-wide.
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Yea, like u.s. Cellular is still a regional carrier with nationwide coverage.. Anywhere outside of there network is roaming, anywhere you leave your home area to another USCc region you are roaming in the extended home service area since you are still on there network.. In Florida where there is no uscc, your roaming off network but are still provided coverage through there roaming partners
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Honestly, reading the various threads here, even the average person {who posts about it, anyway} on these forums seems pretty ignorant when it comes to roaming.
The main problem is people don't know what on-network roaming is. I've posted at least three times over the past month why Sprint can say they have unlimited roaming *on-network* and what on-network roaming is vs off-network roaming.
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That is very true about understanding on-network/off-network. But what's tallied in that second section IS off-network usage even though it says "Sprint 3G Roaming". When I spoke with them on the phone they listed my usage for December as a time I exceeded the limit, which was 467MB. This was listed in my account as "467,272KB/Unlimited Remaining Unlimited". I think that's reason to ask them for clarification.
I acknowledged that forcing my phone to roam was wrong, and I made adjustments, but I barely got any battery life with 1 signal bar and 2G data.
But if you want out of your contract scott free, go for it. They even offered to credit my last full month.
EDIT: I spent 4 days in DC last month, obviously not my home network area, and my Sprint 3G Roaming remained at 0KB. That seems to prove home vs on-network roaming has nothing to do with it. How hard is it for them to be up front that Sprint 3G Roaming = off-network roaming?
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Dalmus said:
Honestly, reading the various threads here, even the average person {who posts about it, anyway} on these forums seems pretty ignorant when it comes to roaming.
The main problem is people don't know what on-network roaming is. I've posted at least three times over the past month why Sprint can say they have unlimited roaming *on-network* and what on-network roaming is vs off-network roaming.
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That is very true about understanding on-network/off-network. But what's tallied in that second section IS off-network usage even though it says "Sprint 3G Roaming". When I spoke with them on the phone they listed my usage for December as a time I exceeded the limit, which was 467MB. This was listed in my account as "467,272KB/Unlimited Remaining Unlimited". I think that's reason to ask them for clarification.
I acknowledged that forcing my phone to roam was wrong, and I made adjustments, but I barely got any battery life with 1 signal bar and 2G data.
But if you want out of your contract scott free, go for it. They even offered to credit my last full month.
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When I got the letter in the beginning of Feb, they listed December as a month I exceeded the limit, and I only had 75MB of roaming data that month (or something like that, I forget exactly now). I asked them how in the world 75MB of roaming data exceeded the 300MB cap, and they told me that I had only used 100MB of on-network data (I spend most of my life on WiFi between work and home), so 75MB was MORE than half of my data usage, therefore a violation of TOS.
So basically, I'm being punished for actually staying OFF their network entirely by using WiFi.
I would have told them to go ahead and kick me off, except that Verizon and AT&T don't have coverage where I need it on my land up north, so they aren't an option.
I *DO* agree with you that their online usage summary really should have a separate data point called "off network roaming - Used: 126,304 of 307,200"
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It would be interesting to see what the roaming agreements are for Sprint and the other carriers. I wonder how much Sprint gets charged per KB when we are roaming.
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elliwigy said:
Agreed... there is always a fine print.. But also.agreed, they should not.advertise.unlimited when t&c apply which state that it is.in.fact not.unlimited.. If someone is on the home network, not doing anything illegal.but.has excessive.use for w.e reason sprint is saying they will.send a warning letter or.terminate service.. I can completely understand if they are using roam control to.force roam on another.network or.if they are tethering or using the.hotspot to host mw3 & use.100GB in a month are obviously both good reasons to.boot the person but for.people who.dont that purposely should not be.punished.. They should advtertise no data limit to an.extent, not truely.unlimited data, but.not.really if you read the fine print.. Data roaming is the same with any carrier.. Cant guarantee data service off sprint network, excessive roaming use.is.expensive.. But dont kick people who.are legit on the sprint network because they didnt read the fine.print and assumed because.it is.clearly advertised as.the ONLY.company with TRUELY unlimited data.. It should be no data cap and no data overages within reason.. And if someone wants to.pay for tethering, goes legit and.wants to host mw3 games amd has.excessive.use.i.dont think should be.kicked.either.. To me its a PR mess waiting to happen until sprint finally stops crazy advertising unlimited or.makes custs.more aware.of the terms and conditions..
Edit: since I work.all day for us cellular and cant have my phone on me on the work floor, and because.the rest of.the.time im at.home on.wifi, my data use.is less than 100mb and my min use is.even less since I only talk when its free, my.usage is.super low, most likely will.NEVER see one of.these letters. At my work i.saw the other.day a customer got.susp because.an old lady managed to.use 13GB in 3 days.on a 5GB limit and she said she only downloaded.Microsoft office and the.rest of.the weekend.she was gone.so.it.was.impossible, sprint, and any carrier knows what is normal.. People need to.understand, your mobile data is.no.subsitute.for.home internet lol, people use.your heads and.dont.abuse. It or soon we might not.have the option to.use.more.data then all other carriers
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Ok, i'm going to go a bit off topic here, but trying to read your missive is giving me a headache.
Why are you using (full stops) periods everywhere and anywhere???
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Ok, i'm going to go a bit off topic here, but trying to read your missive is giving me a headache.
Why are you using (full stops) periods everywhere and anywhere???
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My guess is he is manually punching in words and hitting '.' instead of {space} by accident.
That's why I like Swype.
This again? Please stop. I have no sympathy for people who don't read/understand the agreement they sign. For the last time, the unlimited term is used with terms & conditions and applies to the data usage of the Sprint device on the Sprint network.
Continuing to post/argue over what unlimited means *to you* vs. what is in black and white is a waste of forum bandwidth.
Stop whining about it. Read the agreement. Nod in understanding. Done.

Making the switch to Sprint

So I've decdied to make the switch to sprint and boycott these scammers! VZW just throttled my connection because I reached 1gb in data, half of my shared data. something a Verizon rep swore they never practice unlike Sprint. I asked a Sprint rep and she mentioned they don't charge for overages like Big Red, they notify you and lower your speeds.
Can anyone else confirm that Sprint throttles coconnections and not just for overages? I'd like a little more info before I switch over. Thanks in advance.
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I dont think sprint 3g speeds are throttlable.
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Sprint does not throttle. At one point I used about 20+ GB a month for 3 months and never got throttled. Same on verizon before I gave my line to my gf. I would use about 80+ GB a month for 9 months and I was never told anything
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I dont think sprint 3g speeds are throttlable.
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Yea if they even attempt to throttle it that means you're watching waaaaaay too much porn or you're watching way too much HD porn lol :crying:
They can't throttle 0.5kbps lol
It was BitTorrent beta that got me downloading stock touchwiz, still less than half the 2gb/mo.
Yeah, Verizon has some really scumbaggy business practices as I've seen before. They will do anything legal to be able to get the most of your money.
Sprint doesn't do most of the crap that VZW does. There have been 0 documented cases of someone being throttled, even when this one guy reached 1TB of data on 4G, all they did was send him a letter asking him to stop. I usually go around 20-50GB on 3G per month and I haven't been throttled or anything.
One thing to watch out for is that speeds can be slow - Depending on where you live, you could be getting either 200kbps or 2000kbps.. A lot of markets are undergoing backhaul increase and other network vision enhancements. During this period, a lot of places can get to really low speeds. After it, however, there will probably be a consistent 1000-2000kbps everywhere on 3G.
Not to mention that they also plan to cover most of their existing 3G places with LTE by the end of 2014 so you won't have to care about speed after 2014 - It'll always be consistent LTE speeds.
Where are you located at? If you are in a good Sprint area or even better... a new LTE area... you should have switched yesterday. But I'd read into more so you not disappointed. Sprint is far better on a lot of things. But 3G speeds can be slow at times. I am a big fan of theirs.
My overall experience.
1. Sprint
2. T-Mobile
3. Verizon
4. ... any others...
5. AT&T
Lol
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I just switch two weeks ago from Verizon to Sprint because of the crap Verizon is doing.
I will say this Verizon's network and data speeds smoke Sprint's but I'm not willing to deal with Verizon's BS anymore.
I have found some places I go it takes longer for a web page to load on Sprint but nothing I can't deal with.
I even paid Verizon almost $1100.00 in ETF's for my 5 lines just to get away from them.
All in all I'm good with Sprint and so far happy I made the switch.
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Sprint would need faster data speeds to be able to actually throttle them. As it is now, its just a slight step above a 56k modem.
I'm in pretty much the same boat as bp328i. I moved from VZ to Sprint just about a month ago because of all the "Share Everything" garbage at VZ. I am fortunate in that I live near Chicago and although they have not officially rolled out 4G they are already in the testing phase so I get 4GLTE about 90% of the time. When it is up, it is great, but there are some significant "holes" in their coverage. I guess, at least while I'm here in my local area, I am pleased with Sprint and its unlimited data, etc. So I'm not sorry that I made the move.
That's the one thing Sprint has going for them, no BS. When they say unlimited, they mean it. As stated, totally depends on your area if you can actually use it or not. I'm around Chicago, so 3G speeds are pretty horrid, but obviously get better the further out from the city you get.
The only remaining question is if Sprint will retain unlimited data once they have good LTE coverage. IMO, that's the only thing that will keep people with them. It's the single selling point they have over everyone else. If they get rid of it, they don't have the network VZW has, so people will jump ship I'm sure.
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That's the one thing Sprint has going for them, no BS. When they say unlimited, they mean it. As stated, totally depends on your area if you can actually use it or not. I'm around Chicago, so 3G speeds are pretty horrid, but obviously get better the further out from the city you get.
The only remaining question is if Sprint will retain unlimited data once they have good LTE coverage. IMO, that's the only thing that will keep people with them. It's the single selling point they have over everyone else. If they get rid of it, they don't have the network VZW has, so people will jump ship I'm sure.
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I would most likely "jump ship" back to VZ. You can't argue with their coverage. Loved their anti-iPhone campaign: "There's a 'map' for that."
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I would most likely "jump ship" back to VZ. You can't argue with their coverage. Loved their anti-iPhone campaign: "There's a 'map' for that."
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I'm with you on this, if Sprint gets rid of unlimited I'll be right back to Verizon. If my only choice is a limited data plan I'll might as well have the best coverage.
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The only remaining question is if Sprint will retain unlimited data once they have good LTE coverage. IMO, that's the only thing that will keep people with them. It's the single selling point they have over everyone else. If they get rid of it, they don't have the network VZW has, so people will jump ship I'm sure.
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I think Sprint will retain its unlimited smartphone plans. But they may well crack down harder on unauthorized tethering, which is a violation of the current terms. (I hope they do.) I'll bet that since Verizon and AT&T have moved to close down their unlimited plans, the tethering pirates have migrated even more to Sprint to take advantage of the last remaining opportunity. Enforcing the contract better against abuse can keep unlimited smartphone contracts viable, and I understand the new network will provide better tools for detecting it.
Thx guys, going with Sprint. I'm already 3/4 up on my data for this month (Easytether PRO) and unlimited with Sprint is just about as much as 2GB w/VZW.
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It was BitTorrent beta that got me downloading stock touchwiz, still less than half the 2gb/mo.
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The BitTorrent is what got you throttled on Verizon.
All the major carriers have a clause in their contracts that look for certain data apps, torrents are one of them. IF they see you using one you can get a nasty letter, or throttled..
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The BitTorrent is what got you throttled on Verizon.
All the major carriers have a clause in their contracts that look for certain data apps, torrents are one of them. IF they see you using one you can get a nasty letter, or throttled..
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I hope Sprint looks for the same thing then. I don't have a problem with people who tether now and again when in a bind, but I'm not a fan of those who tether just because they can and abuse the crap out of it. If that keeps happening, Sprint will ditch their unlimited data too, or worse, lock/encrypt bootloaders so it's tougher to root your phone and get free tethering.
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The BitTorrent is what got you throttled on Verizon.
All the major carriers have a clause in their contracts that look for certain data apps, torrents are one of them. IF they see you using one you can get a nasty letter, or throttled..
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I can vouch for this. On sprint I went three months in a row with 30gb+ usage(tethering wimax and torrenting). After the third month I got a call and they said if I didn't stop torrenting (against tos) they would have to cancel my service. However they never mentioned tethering, so I said I wasn't aware that torrenting was not allowed and stopped and no issues since. Sprint is best as long as it stays unlimited.
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I can vouch for this. On sprint I went three months in a row with 30gb+ usage(tethering wimax and torrenting). After the third month I got a call and they said if I didn't stop torrenting (against tos) they would have to cancel my service. However they never mentioned tethering, so I said I wasn't aware that torrenting was not allowed and stopped and no issues since. Sprint is best as long as it stays unlimited.
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Agreed, with Verizon, I was usually within 1-5GB depending on WiFi, I rarely exceeded 5GB, and the first time I used BitTorrent was for stock touchwiz. Those of us who use hotspot/tethering daily, Sprint seems most logical.
Technically, Verizon has no right to block 3rd party tethering apps and actually just paid out $1.25 million for trying to
Verizon Wireless To Pay $1.25 Million To Settle Investigation
Verizon Wireless offers customers its 4G LTE service on C Block spectrum. Verizon Wireless bid at
auction to acquire that spectrum, understanding that it was accompanied by open device and application
obligations. Specifically, licensees offering service on C Block spectrum “shall not deny, limit, or restrict
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Guys, just got off the phone with Verizon to transfer my number to Sprint, they asked why, I told them I was dissatisfied with their share packages and viola, they added my old unlimited plan back, strait 4G LTE, no sharing. Just thought I'd share my mediocre victory with Verizon. If you have VZW and hate their share packages, you can try telling Verizon your swiching to Sprint and see if they let you into their unlimited grandfathered data plans

[Q] anybody else get " the letter"

i just got my letter (about my unlocked phone/ wifi tethering ). the same day i got my new S3,
the phone is nice but cleveland has no LTE...and won't until mid 2013
i've been with sprint 10 years so if they terminate F U C K ' E M
i'll get the Galaxy note 2 (cheap ) / wit a new contract.:highfive:
How much data did you use while tethering?
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I had that letter numerous time with my Epic. I used roam control and strictly roamed for 3 months straight. Nothing ever came off it though. No Sprint data, 10gb a month of roaming data.
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It would be nice if their network was at least useable enough that you don't have to force roaming just to check your email or load a damn Facebook page.
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I had that letter numerous time with my Epic. I used roam control and strictly roamed for 3 months straight. Nothing ever came off it though. No Sprint data, 10gb a month of roaming data.
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that's a lot. maybe if people had consideration and didn't abuse tethering it would be included in the plans.. obliviously downloading 10gb of data while roaming seems blatantly excessive. surprised they didn't pull the plug, perhaps it takes a bit for the system to raise a flag. the fees must be costing them more than you're worth having as a customer, as harsh as that may sound..
I'd rather use roam control and get 3g Verizon speed, instead of 1 bar of Sprint 3g. So if they upped their network then I wouldn't have to. I'm not complaining though, just giving op my situation.
I wasn't tethering though. Just lots of high quality Spotify. I don't think they'd even know the difference.
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I got the phone call from sprint about 5 months ago, after only one month of high roaming data (was using samsung epic 4g touch at the time). I wasn't force roaming. I was just doing my usual work, home, kids stuff routine. That's how bad the sprint signals are in pockets of where I live. So for one month I used 6g of data roaming, which is my monthly average. Pandora, email and facebook.
In fact, my house, which is about 6 blocks from LTE coverage is a dead zone with roaming only (even with an air rave).
I reverted the modem back a couple versions the next month and problem was solved, of course with much slower data.
What I don't really understand is how sprint can know that the 2 mile stretch of area I live and work in is a deadzone and still give me crap for it. Basically, the rep said turn roaming off and have no service, or terminate. I like sprint, I've got 6 lines. It's the only carrier i can afford. I never call to complain, specifically because of that. I am happy with what I get.
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i live in Michigan and have no 4G service. I pay $10/mo for "premium data" services. IDK about you but 3G speeds so slow that you dont even wanna use data is hardly "premium". i only use about 1.5GB/month. I am sure as soon as 4G LTE becomes available for me (end of year or early next year) i will get the same letter/call from them.
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I got the phone call from sprint about 5 months ago, after only one month of high roaming data (was using samsung epic 4g touch at the time). I wasn't force roaming. I was just doing my usual work, home, kids stuff routine. That's how bad the sprint signals are in pockets of where I live. So for one month I used 6g of data roaming, which is my monthly average. Pandora, email and facebook.
In fact, my house, which is about 6 blocks from LTE coverage is a dead zone with roaming only (even with an air rave).
I reverted the modem back a couple versions the next month and problem was solved, of course with much slower data.
What I don't really understand is how sprint can know that the 2 mile stretch of area I live and work in is a deadzone and still give me crap for it. Basically, the rep said turn roaming off and have no service, or terminate. I like sprint, I've got 6 lines. It's the only carrier i can afford. I never call to complain, specifically because of that. I am happy with what I get.
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the thing that gets me is why don't they at least give out some numbers on how much you're allowed to roam data.. or are people not allowed data roaming at all?
i also assume if you tether, unless you do some type of work around on the device they can tell whether it's tethering or normal phone data.
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TO ALL!!!! this is a call to action. I too, like many others are experiencing unacceptable data speeds while on 3G and in great reception while using the Galaxy S III. the speeds I should be receiving are 1.5-3 MB/s but instead I am receiving around 128Kb/s in the city and within excellent service. We all have to pay a 'Premium Data Add-On' charges just to own these phones and this is unacceptable. Please write an Email to [email protected], vice president of customer experience at sprint and let him know what you are experiencing. Maybe if enough pissed off customers write, they will finally listen!
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TO ALL!!!! this is a call to action. I too, like many others are experiencing unacceptable data speeds while on 3G and in great reception while using the Galaxy S III. the speeds I should be receiving are 1.5-3 MB/s but instead I am receiving around 128Kb/s in the city and within excellent service. We all have to pay a 'Premium Data Add-On' charges just to own these phones and this is unacceptable. Please write an Email to [email protected], vice president of customer experience at sprint and let him know what you are experiencing. Maybe if enough pissed off customers write, they will finally listen!
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That's a good idea. Cause I was thinking of doing the data roaming thing here and there when I need too. Some parts of Long Island is like a dead zone for Sprint. Esp, where I use to work. Now I work in New York City, signal is great there, but still tends to be funky and speeds are different (enough to notice) with all full bars. My friend who has Verizon, goes through his pandora, without skips, or downloads much quicker. I am just trying to wait it out for this 4G move to take place so my $10.00 extra a month addition won't feel that bad.....but its taking them forever!
It does suck. I've been paying the "premium" data few now for almost 3 years. I've never had had 4g and my 3g is pretty terrible.
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the thing that gets me is why don't they at least give out some numbers on how much you're allowed to roam data.. or are people not allowed data roaming at all?
i also assume if you tether, unless you do some type of work around on the device they can tell whether it's tethering or normal phone data.
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They do its in your contract. And to the previous guy. 1.5GB of data is a lot for someone who doesn't get signal...
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Use the hell out your phone tethering included, we pay way more than it cost to use data. Roaning cost them money that's why the carrier get mad, but on there network they could careless. Most people ain't power users only most people on xda, well in the real world we make up a small group I highly doubt we would interrupt service. Sprint 3g is just slow it don't matter if 1500 people are connected or just 2 it sucks. I Been tethering over 20 gigs a month along time atleast five years. That's not a lot when you consider downloading games from gameloft downloading roms on xda tethering to use your xbox 360 online watching netfrix and so on. It needs to be unlimited all times free tethering an all I rather pay more for that.
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Since Dec 16,2012-Jan 9, 2013 I have used 20.40GB and have not received any letters from sprint
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Since Dec 16,2012-Jan 9, 2013 I have used 20.40GB and have not received any letters from sprint
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I am trying to roam using roam control but my GS3 won't get a signal in Chicago. I others on here roaming fine. I'm using version 2.6.2 which is the latest version. I have the app set to Samsung GS3. What can I do to get this working?

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