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why does this sprint page say 5GB 3G limit?

http://shop2.sprint.com/en/stores/popups/4G_coverage_popup.shtml
what is this and since when is there a monthly data limit? 0_o

I think this is referring to tethering
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Is this in reference to a hot spot device? I know those have caps and only phones can be unlimited.

5GB thats cool i get like 7kbps on 3g here so basically "unlimited" for me since i would never reach that.

babyboy8100 said:
5GB thats cool i get like 7kbps on 3g here so basically "unlimited" for me since i would never reach that.
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That's precisely why I left Sprint. No point in unlimited data when I can't even reach the cap of other carriers due to ridiculously slow speeds.
I average 6 mbps on AT&T's HSPA+ 3G network. Waaaaay better than the >100kbps on Sprint.

_MetalHead_ said:
That's precisely why I left Sprint. No point in unlimited data when I can't even reach the cap of other carriers due to ridiculously slow speeds.
I average 6 mbps on AT&T's HSPA+ 3G network. Waaaaay better than the >100kbps on Sprint.
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hspa+ is 4g data. w/e that cap on phones may also apply to roaming on 3g if i remeber correctly, didnt click ur link OP

_MetalHead_ said:
That's precisely why I left Sprint. No point in unlimited data when I can't even reach the cap of other carriers due to ridiculously slow speeds.
I average 6 mbps on AT&T's HSPA+ 3G network. Waaaaay better than the >100kbps on Sprint.
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I'm in Orange County, CA, and I average 600k-1.4mbps. This is fine for when I'm just looking up something quick. I'm content with that. Why? Because cell phone, not server. When I'm home I use my 15mpbs internet connection, and I jump onto my company wifi at work just to save battery.

You get unlimited 4G, but only 5 GB of 3G because they expect you to use your 4G often and not your 3G.
As for speeds, I range from here on the outskirts of Houston I range from .10mbps-.30mbps on Edge (2G), .20mbps-1.4mbps 3G, and 4mbps-14mbps on 4G. Not bad at all, I actually get those speeds practically everywhere, even in other cities and states.

This is a marketing tactic to get you to go with 4G.

There was a massive outrage about this not all that long ago, and several tech sites did articles about it and the truth was that it was a limit only for tethering, and that regular smartphone data was still really, honestly unlimited.
Here are a few articles about engadgets coverage.
http://www.engadget.com/2012/01/05/sprint-confirms-top-data-users-thottling-dan-hesse/?jsmobile=0
http://www.engadget.com/2011/10/21/sprint-to-nix-unlimited-from-mobile-broadband-and-hotspot-plan/

Why are there trolls here? If you left Sprint then stop lurking here. Obviously you regret it if you still hang around Sprint forums

What they say about the speeds is true though, not trolling because I still have Sprint haha.

Korey_Nicholson said:
Why are there trolls here? If you left Sprint then stop lurking here. Obviously you regret it if you still hang around Sprint forums
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Last time I checked this was XDA... did ownership change?.
I know you work for Sprint and seem to be proud of it. You cannot deny that, as with all networks, Sprint has an issue with respect to coverage and speeds. Yes it gets repeated over and over but that's business: you find lots of complaints when something goes wrong and not a single praise when everything is working as it should be unless you did something exceptional. Part of being proud is to also being humble when a flaw is shown. Either offer a solution or don't offer anything at all (not even a remark like that).

fenixjn said:
Last time I checked this was XDA... did ownership change?.
I know you work for Sprint and seem to be proud of it. You cannot deny that, as with all networks, Sprint has an issue with respect to coverage and speeds. Yes it gets repeated over and over but that's business: you find lots of complaints when something goes wrong and not a single praise when everything is working as it should be unless you did something exceptional. Part of being proud is to also being humble when a flaw is shown. Either offer a solution or don't offer anything at all (not even a remark like that).
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It's really not relevant who "owns" XDA.
IF you are coming to a sub-forum for the sole purpose to whine about something that doesn't even apply to you... I mean come on... that's the true definition of an internet troll.
And the fact is that all [I'm just going to underline it because it needs it] ALL carriers have different ranges of coverage and speeds depending on the area.
Even "the greatest carrier to ever exist in the history of mankind omg lightening bolt" Verizon has areas where coverage severely lacks and speeds are bad.
Either way. This is a developer forum.
Not a "whine to no end about your carrier" forum.
Everyone on this forum knows that some are dissatisfied with Sprint.
Great, switch and be done with it.
On topic: It definitely pertains to something not related to phone bandwidth.

Link fail lol
Take this **** to a more relevant forum.... Sprint has their own community page where they can help you with your carrier specific complaints
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It is kind of funny how much time people who switched phones or carriers end up spending here. I guess there isn't much action in those forums. You get it all here!
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Korey_Nicholson said:
Why are there trolls here? If you left Sprint then stop lurking here. Obviously you regret it if you still hang around Sprint forums
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This is the only troll comment I see.
You don't have to own a phone to browse it's forum. There are good tips on every forum, that can be universal.
That is an insanely asinine statement.
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This is why I just use the tethering app on the rare occasions I need it. Let's see...pay $70/month for unlimited data and some minutes I never use. I can either forward that same data to a larger screened device or pay another $30 or $40 or whatever for 5GB of tethered data.
It doesn't really make sense. Honestly I get that they are subsidizing the cost of more basic use by charging more for what is typically considered a "power user" feature but it's still stupid IMO. Considering my 3G speeds have gone from 800k to 50k over the past 4 years I find it amusing to think that I would be paying extra to get the same thing I already pay for.
The cheaper plans are the only thing keeping me on Sprint for now. If T-Mo manages to make good use of that breakup money they will remain my backup plan. MVNOs have good prices but good handsets are artificially limited to the higher cost carriers. VZW and ATT would cost me at least half again as much as I pay now and my data will be capped (not to mention the shady **** they have been involved with as far as wiretapping and lobbying).
Guess it's Sprint with unlimited slow 3g and decent 4g for another several years here...

everything at sprint at this point is basically because of the dumba** iphone they have to cut cost and corners everywhere because of the huge $20billion deal they signed.
And yes this only applys to the tethering not actual phone use

this is for aircard/ hotspot devices. been that way since 4g was first launched, 5GB 3G/ 4G unlimited

[Q] Roaming Penalty

so I see that excessive roaming will prompt sprint to give you the boot with no warning but how does it work with family plans. if one person on the plan roams too much does the entire account get canceled or just that one phone number?

Just the line that abused it. Also the send you a letter telling you to stop first
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I got a letter from Sprint myself after I messed with my RTSP and HTTPD server settings. I read an article about speeding up network access like at my desk at work on an AT&T (roaming) network. After about 2 weeks of enjoying better coverage and speeds, I got a love letter from Sprint.
At first I had no clue, then I remembered I had messed with those settings. Turns out I was ONLY roaming with them. So now I put them back to stock and no issues with Sprint.
Actually, on Calkulins latest v1.2 ICS Rom, with the FC18 modem, I get 3G at my work where I only had a 1X network data connection before!

thanks for the info

So do I have to use calks rom plus fc18 modem for it to work
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ScubaSteev said:
So do I have to use calks rom plus fc18 modem for it to work
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Different devices, different areas, and different radios all play a part in your signal strength. There is not a one-size-fits-all, so try different modems, using each one a couple of days, and keep an eye on your signal strength.

ScubaSteev said:
So do I have to use calks rom plus fc18 modem for it to work
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Not sure what you mean by "it"

Wait...what does roaming mean in this case? I am going to get this phone soon, and I have been out of the loop for this community for a few months now. Is roaming a term for something mod related or does it just mean being in a roaming area.
My concern is that when I had the Epic, I rode the subway everyday and every 3 seconds my phone says "You are roaming" and does the annoying sound and screen, have they disabled this?

iball8888 said:
Wait...what does roaming mean in this case? I am going to get this phone soon, and I have been out of the loop for this community for a few months now. Is roaming a term for something mod related or does it just mean being in a roaming area.
My concern is that when I had the Epic, I rode the subway everyday and every 3 seconds my phone says "You are roaming" and does the annoying sound and screen, have they disabled this?
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It just means you are using another carrier's tower, not Sprint's... The default Sprint proxy settings on the phone are fine, but you can hack them and get into trouble if you do this.

I know this thread is somewhat old, but I wanted to share that the second letter I recently received from Sprint was one informing me that my account WILL be terminated as of July 17th.
I tried numerous times to explain that when I am at work, I am ALWAYS on roaming data. I use WiFi at home, so the only time I typically user Sprint 3G is during my commute. They said there were NO exceptions and the decision comes from Corporate and is FINAL. 18 years with my company and 8 in good standing with Sprint on different phones... And they axed me! My Epic 4G Touch apparently is rather data hungry...
So beware, peeps...
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You have be roaming at least 75% of the time (not an exact number, just ballpark) in order for Sprint to boot you.
Basically, while you're roaming, Sprint is having to pay the other carrier for your usage. If you're using the other network more than Sprint, it's not profitable to keep you.

Sunsparc said:
You have be roaming at least 75% of the time (not an exact number, just ballpark) in order for Sprint to boot you.
Basically, while you're roaming, Sprint is having to pay the other carrier for your usage. If you're using the other network more than Sprint, it's not profitable to keep you.
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Last I heard it was 300MB of roaming then they send the letter. Do it again over that limit and you get the boot.
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peanut1596 said:
Last I heard it was 300MB of roaming then they send the letter. Do it again over that limit and you get the boot.
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Yes, the letter says 300MB or the majority of 3G data. There were 2 months since November 2011 where
My roaming data % was more than non-roaming.
The thing that kills me is that my usage pattern hadn't changed across the last 3 phones I've had with them. The Google Play Store and all the apps connecting in the background had changed my consumption no doubt...
My E4GT is my first Android phone though, and they even made me pay an extra $10 per month for "premium data" with this phone because it is a "smartphone" (just like my previous Blackberry Curve)!
Wtf? Faaaaaaaq Sprint
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Do they make you pay an ETF when they do this? I know for most, roaming isn't an issue but some are on the edge of the network and are more likely to roam. Would kind of suck if they had to pay an ETF.

I'm expecting a letter reeeeeeeeeeaaaally soon. I used 2.5GB of roaming last month so I imagine they are a little pissy about that.
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KCRic said:
Do they make you pay an ETF when they do this? I know for most, roaming isn't an issue but some are on the edge of the network and are more likely to roam. Would kind of suck if they had to pay an ETF.
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Sprint did offer to waive the ETFs (2 off them) AND any recurring charges for the last month of service... Actually, on AT&T, I'm now getting better coverage and speed, both in and out of my workplace, and with the wife's employee discount we are paying less overall.
3GB data plan on each phone... Most I've ever used on Sprint is like 1.2GB.
One of the best things about the AT&T data plan is that if you go over the limit, for $10 they automatically add another GB, not cancel your account. And roaming data only applies to international data usage.
peanut1596 said:
I'm expecting a letter reeeeeeeeeeaaaally soon. I used 2.5GB of roaming last month so I imagine they are a little pissy about that.
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If your Sprint 3G data is more than your Sprint 3G roaming data, then they won't usually take any action other than maybe warning letters.
I'm sure my usage was costing them money, but my usage was costing ME plenty of money too!
I was happy about no ETFs and the free last month... but there should be legal implications for them since they don't report any of this on your invoice OR USAGE DETAILS. When I asked why there was no mention of the roaming data issue on my bill, they said that some things changed earlier this year, and their Marketing and Billing departments weren't on the same page yet.
This a$$ reaming was brought to you by Sprint... Bringing a whole new meaning to the term "Unlimited"...
GFY, Sprint. I hope you face legal action for screwing your customers over like this
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The problem is, there is no way to tell from your bill whether you are roaming on Sprint's network (as in, out of your home calling area) or roaming OFF of Sprint's network.
"Changes earlier this year" is BS. Their bill has stated "Sprint 3G Roaming - Unlimited" forever.

Dalmus said:
The problem is, there is no way to tell from your bill whether you are roaming on Sprint's network (as in, out of your home calling area) or roaming OFF of Sprint's network.
"Changes earlier this year" is BS. Their bill has stated "Sprint 3G Roaming - Unlimited" forever.
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Their lack of reporting is BS too...
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10 plus year Sprint customer checking in here!
I've been using the EK02 modem combo'ed with PRL 11115 and Mr. Greg's ROAM Control for almost 3 months now, set to roam only and I haven't gotten a single letter, threat or anything!
I'm actually hoping to get one, I want out of my Sprint contract without paying the ETF, I'm sick of the slow 3G data speeds. Now before someone says well you've been a customer for over 10 years and you have resigned the contracts so you have no one else to blame but yourself, blah blah blah, back before the HTC EVO 4G, I didn't have these issues.
Over the past 3 years Sprints network has done to hell. My Samsung Instinct and my Palm Pre were FAST. I used them as modems for my laptop and everything else, NO problems. Browsing on them was FAST, no problems. Apps online on them, no problems. I get my EVO and its SLOW! That was about when 4G was coming so I waited it out and yep we finally GET 4G locally but only downtown. I keep hearing promisses of expansion blah blah blah so I renew picking up the Epic 4G Touch, oh, no more 4G expansion blah blah, LTE is the next big thing.
Well my Epic Touch is even slower then my EVO was.
Sprint got too big and there network just cant handle it.
My friends ATT Skyrocket blows my phone out of the water speed wise. Hell, just roaming to Verizon I get upward of a meg a second but on Sprint I'm luck to get 100 kbps. Sometimes it bursts to 600+ but it doesnt hold. Sometimes its as low as 20 kbps. Most webpages don't load.
I'm burned out.

they haven't sent me one yet..... crossing fingures

[Q] Roaming Questions

At home in the subarb I get crappy sprint service, specifically texting and voice. It takes 5 minutes for a text to come from my mom's ATT phone to me on sprint, and the same situation takes only 5 seconds while roaming on Verizon. For voice, I only have one ring to pick up the phone on sprint vs. four or five rings on Verizon (it only misses one ring). I've tried it many times, so there is NO argument! When I'm at college in downtown Pittsburgh, the service is very comparable to Verizon and I have no issues whatsoever. From searching the forums, I've found out that the voice you use while roaming on Verizon is limited to your anytime minutes (I have 1500), and your data is limited to 300 mb using 1x. Now the problem is that I'm home for summer and I'm sick of the service already. For the past day I have been roaming on Verizon and it feels like I have gotten a whole new phone all over again. Everything works correctly everywhere and it's phenomenal. My texts go through instantly and I'm missing no calls. My question is, if I stay under 1500 minutes (I never even make any phone calls anyways, it would take me months to hit 1500) and under 300 mb of data (I plan on simply using sprint 4g or wifi at all times) until I go back to school in 3 months, will I run into any issues? Is there any limit on the time that you spend roaming or the amount of text messages you send/receive?

Roaming minutes are counted as your plan.minutes, no limit on texts. There's a PRL hack that locks your phone into roaming with 3g speeds. Data is kinda iffy, some people.have gotten dropped from.sprint from.excessive data roaming after from a few months to a year.
Also Google the app roam control, its not in the play store but its very useful for people in your situation.
If I was you I'd just lock in roaming and let sprint eventually drop you, sell your ET4g and get a phone from a better carrier.

agreed.. in the same situation.. ive had roam control for a looong time but just recently put it to use.. im in phoenix az and i cant get a signal in my house unless i use roam control to force roam.. had to for the last few weeks since we dont have internet right now and cant use the airrave..
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Call Sprint and get an Airave - provided are allowed another line on your account and have an internet connection at home. Explain your situation (if your school address is your billing address, change it to your where you are now) and they will provide one free(ish). There is a nominal admin fee each month. If the first CSR you talk to tries to charge you fr the unit just ask to be transferred to someone else in customer retention, you'll succeed in getting it for free.
I was in this situation where I was roaming in my house. Many of the CSRs told me it was not possible because, "the voice and data coverage is very good at your address". Which is true looking at the map on their website, but far from the reality. I used Roam Control from the market and within 3 months received a letter telling me to curb my roaming or be terminated - the only plus would be the termination would be ETF free. To be clear, the roaming agreement is 800 minutes OR a majority of minutes for voice and 300mb OR a majority of use. So even if you stay below 500 minutes, but they're all roaming you are still violating their terms.
If you call them today your problem should be solved, airave in hand, before the end of the week. If you have any trouble PM me and I'll try to help. Good luck.

phatmanxxl said:
Roaming minutes are counted as your plan.minutes, no limit on texts. There's a PRL hack that locks your phone into roaming with 3g speeds. Data is kinda iffy, some people.have gotten dropped from.sprint from.excessive data roaming after from a few months to a year.
Also Google the app roam control, its not in the play store but its very useful for people in your situation.
If I was you I'd just lock in roaming and let sprint eventually drop you, sell your ET4g and get a phone from a better carrier.
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I have found that PRL hack, and I do not want to use verizons 3g to prevent using too much data, especially since I have unlimited sprint 4g and wifi.
I am using roam control to force roaming.
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Call Sprint and get an Airave - provided are allowed another line on your account and have an internet connection at home. Explain your situation (if your school address is your billing address, change it to your where you are now) and they will provide one free(ish). There is a nominal admin fee each month. If the first CSR you talk to tries to charge you fr the unit just ask to be transferred to someone else in customer retention, you'll succeed in getting it for free.
I was in this situation where I was roaming in my house. Many of the CSRs told me it was not possible because, "the voice and data coverage is very good at your address". Which is true looking at the map on their website, but far from the reality. I used Roam Control from the market and within 3 months received a letter telling me to curb my roaming or be terminated - the only plus would be the termination would be ETF free. To be clear, the roaming agreement is 800 minutes OR a majority of minutes for voice and 300mb OR a majority of use. So even if you stay below 500 minutes, but they're all roaming you are still violating their terms.
If you call them today your problem should be solved, airave in hand, before the end of the week. If you have any trouble PM me and I'll try to help. Good luck.
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I forgot to clarify this in the op, I have had an airwave and it made texting impossible. I returned it a few weeks ago even though it was free.
Your other information about the data roaming was exactly what I was looking for. Thank you!

revamper said:
I have found that PRL hack, and I do not want to use verizons 3g to prevent using too much data, especially since I have unlimited sprint 4g and wifi.
I am using roam control to force roaming.
I forgot to clarify this in the op, I have had an airwave and it made texting impossible. I returned it a few weeks ago even though it was free.
Your other information about the data roaming was exactly what I was looking for. Thank you!
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same here.. no wifi=airrave useless.. thinking about sending that back and using the line to get another phone and just roam when i need to use the phone..
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No Questions Allowed in the General Section
No Questions Allowed in the "General Section"!!!
See Webpage Here:
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OP is in Violation of official XDA Developer Rules of Conduct...
Sorry to be a rat, (and I think that NO ONE checks the Q&A section, so I think we should have the
Samsung Epic 4G Touch
> Epic Touch General & Questions
*****> Epic Touch General
*****> Epic Touch Questions
Rather it would be better to have them tabbed... General on one side, and Questions on the other....
But rules are rules...

[Q] Class Action Suit

OK, calm down, I'm just asking! Has anyone heard of ANYONE involving themselves in a class action lawsuit against Sprint due to the next to non-existant Data that we pay a pretty penny for? It's ridiculous that we have to pay at least $30 for 4G data when most of us can't even get 3G data. My 3G data is approximately anywhere from 0.12 Mg to 0.3 Mg. And I can't even begin to get 4G data. Even the carrot of Unlimited data is nothing when data speeds are THAT sad. And I've tried 3G all over town (Louisville, KY). At least I get SOMETHING for 3G speeds. For 4G I get NOTHING. How can Sprint legally do this to us? Isn't that false advertising? They promised 3G and 4G data speeds and deliver NEITHER. Once people start dropping Sprint due to their pathetic data speeds, they may upgrade their service. I've read that alot of users keep Sprint as their provider strictly because of their unlimited data. So if they stopped unlimited data they would lose even more subscribers. Any lawyer types out there care to give their opinions?

Dude just switch carriers, no one is forcing you to stay with them unless you have a contract. Its not like every single one has no data connection, some has and some don't. So for others that has no clear connection should just switch. Just my opinion. Seems more of a hassle taking it to court or whatever. Im not against you ok, its just something I would do.

ojones838 said:
OK, calm down, I'm just asking! Has anyone heard of ANYONE involving themselves in a class action lawsuit against Sprint due to the next to non-existant Data that we pay a pretty penny for? It's ridiculous that we have to pay at least $30 for 4G data when most of us can't even get 3G data. My 3G data is approximately anywhere from 0.12 Mg to 0.3 Mg. And I can't even begin to get 4G data. Even the carrot of Unlimited data is nothing when data speeds are THAT sad. And I've tried 3G all over town (Louisville, KY). At least I get SOMETHING for 3G speeds. For 4G I get NOTHING. How can Sprint legally do this to us? Isn't that false advertising? They promised 3G and 4G data speeds and deliver NEITHER. Once people start dropping Sprint due to their pathetic data speeds, they may upgrade their service. I've read that alot of users keep Sprint as their provider strictly because of their unlimited data. So if they stopped unlimited data they would lose even more subscribers. Any lawyer types out there care to give their opinions?
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They always say subject to signal strength and availability. I hate these threads...

Is it stated anywhere in writing that the extra charge is for the 4G? We all know that it IS but that does not help a legal case.
Welcome to the United States of Litigation!

sol_671 said:
Dude just switch carriers, no one is forcing you to stay with them unless you have a contract. Its not like every single one has no data connection, some has and some don't. So for others that has no clear connection should just switch. Just my opinion. Seems more of a hassle taking it to court or whatever. Im not against you ok, its just something I would do.
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Dude, Sprint is forcing me to stay with them by contract. I still have roughly 1.5 years under contract with them. I got my first smartphone with Verizon. 3G, was in fact, 3G. I was puzzled when I went to Sprint and their signals were so weak. I'm sorry but I seem to be wasting my time telling you about my problems. Because you seem to be a Sprint minion. Maybe not, but I feel anyone that is on the side of Sprint is against me. I guess I feel like Sprint should charge users that have such terrible signals less than users that live in a signal-rich environment. I only ask for what I'm paying for. To switch now would cost me several hundred dollars. You've heard of this concept called "fair"? Well I don't think it's "fair" to have to pay the same fees as users who are getting exactly what they pay for. Would you think it was "fair" to be under a lunch contract where you and others paid for the same sandwich, but others got their sandwich piled high but you only got a skimpy sandwich? I don't think so. Fair is fair. And people like me are not being fairly treated.

robbyr said:
Is it stated anywhere in writing that the extra charge is for the 4G? We all know that it IS but that does not help a legal case.
Welcome to the United States of Litigation!
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robbyr,
If you think WE can figure that out don't you think a lawyer can bring that out too?

I agree with you but a class action would likely never never fly in court since they guarantee nothing. I was on Tmobile for years before Sprint and their signal and speeds were rock solid. But boy meets girl and girl wants boy on family plan so Im on Sprint for the last 2+ years and the last 6 months have been the worst. My city is getting their network vision update now so I hope thats the problem. In the meantime when my signal is poo I update profile and it picks up a bit. I shouldn't have to do this though.

If you have horrible service, get an Airave in your house. It'll be like a tower in your living room or wherever you have your high speed modem, if you gave one.
And just because someone doesn't want to jump on Sprint and their speeds doesn't mean that they're against you, it's just that they're willing to deal with the situation for now. Besides this is all temporary.
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All a class action suit will do is make Sprint poorer, make the lawyers rich, and likely change nothing. And you might get a check for 3 dollars or so...

been down that road, for most people its more headaches than anything. and anyone who says it isn't just didn't realize they sometimes miss a text or call. plus if they don't give it to u free then u gotta pay for it and its not expensive but not at all cheap. in all honesty it helps your signal so ur not dropping calls but it really isn't doing anything for speed issues, it bumped my 3g speed from about 350kbps to about to about 650kbps..almost like turbo for 3g lol.
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ojones838 said:
OK, calm down, I'm just asking! Has anyone heard of ANYONE involving themselves in a class action lawsuit against Sprint due to the next to non-existant Data that we pay a pretty penny for? It's ridiculous that we have to pay at least $30 for 4G data when most of us can't even get 3G data. My 3G data is approximately anywhere from 0.12 Mg to 0.3 Mg. And I can't even begin to get 4G data. Even the carrot of Unlimited data is nothing when data speeds are THAT sad. And I've tried 3G all over town (Louisville, KY). At least I get SOMETHING for 3G speeds. For 4G I get NOTHING. How can Sprint legally do this to us? Isn't that false advertising? They promised 3G and 4G data speeds and deliver NEITHER. Once people start dropping Sprint due to their pathetic data speeds, they may upgrade their service. I've read that alot of users keep Sprint as their provider strictly because of their unlimited data. So if they stopped unlimited data they would lose even more subscribers. Any lawyer types out there care to give their opinions?
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Where are you getting that you pay "at least 30$ a month for 4g data". The only additional data charge there is is on all smartphones, and it's only 10 bucks more a month than if you had data on a flip phone. And that 10$ is on all smartphones, so it wouldn't matter if you bought the new EVO LTE or the basic Motorola XPRT, you are paying the same price. There is no additional charge for 4g.
As to your statement "Once people start dropping Sprint due to their pathetic data speeds, they may upgrade their service."... Sprint is fixing the network. Without people dropping. Read here:
http://newsroom.sprint.com/press_kits.cfm?presskit_id=19
A little snippet I would like to point out: "Sprint expects its 4G coverage footprint to cover 250 million people when the build-out is completed by the end of 2013"
Sprint is working an intensely aggressive schedule to rebuild the ENTIRE NETWORK in 3 years, increasing 3g data coverage, and putting LTE everywhere 3g is. Major cities are first on the docket, but it will increase the network signal pretty much everywhere.
My last suggestion is to read through your TOS at some point. They do not guarantee or promise 3g or 4g data anywhere, and do state that it is subject to availability in your area.
I am tired of seeing this thread pop up over and over again.

You signed a contract giving up the right to seek class action status when you agreed to the ToS.
You can remedy your situation (according to contract) by arbitration, small claims, or complaining to regulators.

ojones838 said:
Dude, Sprint is forcing me to stay with them by contract. I still have roughly 1.5 years under contract with them. I got my first smartphone with Verizon. 3G, was in fact, 3G. I was puzzled when I went to Sprint and their signals were so weak. I'm sorry but I seem to be wasting my time telling you about my problems. Because you seem to be a Sprint minion. Maybe not, but I feel anyone that is on the side of Sprint is against me. I guess I feel like Sprint should charge users that have such terrible signals less than users that live in a signal-rich environment. I only ask for what I'm paying for. To switch now would cost me several hundred dollars. You've heard of this concept called "fair"? Well I don't think it's "fair" to have to pay the same fees as users who are getting exactly what they pay for. Would you think it was "fair" to be under a lunch contract where you and others paid for the same sandwich, but others got their sandwich piled high but you only got a skimpy sandwich? I don't think so. Fair is fair. And people like me are not being fairly treated.
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You were puzzled to see Sprint's weak signals yet you stayed with them? You had 15 days to test the network and decide if you wanted to stay or not. You and only you made that decision to stay with Sprint and sign the 2 year deal and now you are *****ing about it? I have no sympathy for you nor should anybody else.

lickarock,
I am tired of seeing this thread pop up over and over again.
Why do you constantly read it?
tgruendler,
I'm sorry, no one asked you for sympathy...

Besides this is all temporary.[/QUOTE said:
What do you mean, exactly?
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akamara13,
What exactly do you mean all this is temporary?

tgruendler said:
You were puzzled to see Sprint's weak signals yet you stayed with them? You had 15 days to test the network and decide if you wanted to stay or not. You and only you made that decision to stay with Sprint and sign the 2 year deal and now you are *****ing about it? I have no sympathy for you nor should anybody else.
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I didn't have 15 days to test the network. As you can see, I get to Sprint through Credomobile. Also I didn't SIGN a 2 year deal as all my account dealings were done over the 'net. Also since when does anyone not experiment with a new device and just give up without trying to get it to work within 2 weeks? Even most stores give you 30 days. Whew! Just blowing off steam. No need to reply to this...

Ojones 838 have you thought about putting a verison prl on your phone all that roaming and sprint will ask you to leave and prodadly no etf.
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lickarock said:
http://newsroom.sprint.com/press_kits.cfm?presskit_id=19
A little snippet I would like to point out: "Sprint expects its 4G coverage footprint to cover 250 million people when the build-out is completed by the end of 2013"
Sprint is working an intensely aggressive schedule to rebuild the ENTIRE NETWORK in 3 years, increasing 3g data coverage, and putting LTE everywhere 3g is. Major cities are first on the docket, but it will increase the network signal pretty much everywhere.
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I'm not saying you're wrong lickarock, I'm saying Sprint's data in the article you posted is a pipedream. I have to say "BS" on the 250 million number. That would mean that 75%+ of users would have 4G LTE coverage. Right now, Sprint doesn't even cover 75% of the users with good 3G coverage. Sprint's maps lie. I live in an "excellent" 3G area according to Sprint and get very very slow data or no data on Sprint's network.
I didn't have the option to "try" for 14 days either since I bought my phone in a different state and had it for 2 months before moving to CA. I've called several times saying "I've moved, and now my coverage is non-existent, please cancel my contract or replace my phone with one that will get a signal." Their response is "our maps show that you live in an excellent... blah blah blah". They don't care that phone calls just go to voicemail. I know of at least 7 people that have dropped Sprint and gone to AT&T or T-mobile when asking me about service and network in this area (friends and family bring their phones to me to root). Sprint is not just losing me as a customer, I'm taking another dozen or so (eventually) with me to other carriers.
-Daryel

ojones838 - I feel your pain on this, I really do. That said, a class action lawsuit isn't the way to go. Lawyers aren't the way to go for that matter. Just do what was posted above me. Use an alternate PRL and roam like no other. Sprint will kick you off without an ETF and you can switch carriers.
I too should have left within the 15 days but like a lot of others I didn't. The speeds were kind of ok in the beginning and I figured they would get better as Sprint upgraded their towers. That didn't happen. I'd heard even before switching to Sprint that the speeds were crap but I thought "really, how bad can they honestly be". Boy was I wrong...
So now I'm stuck paying for data that I don't have (thank you false advertising) unless I turn on WiMax "4G" and even that is slower than EVERY other carriers 3G. Sprint advertised specific speeds - which I've yet to see. So use another PRL and get out of the contract. That's what I'm doing at least.

Making the switch to Sprint

So I've decdied to make the switch to sprint and boycott these scammers! VZW just throttled my connection because I reached 1gb in data, half of my shared data. something a Verizon rep swore they never practice unlike Sprint. I asked a Sprint rep and she mentioned they don't charge for overages like Big Red, they notify you and lower your speeds.
Can anyone else confirm that Sprint throttles coconnections and not just for overages? I'd like a little more info before I switch over. Thanks in advance.
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I dont think sprint 3g speeds are throttlable.
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Sprint does not throttle. At one point I used about 20+ GB a month for 3 months and never got throttled. Same on verizon before I gave my line to my gf. I would use about 80+ GB a month for 9 months and I was never told anything
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shook187 said:
I dont think sprint 3g speeds are throttlable.
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Yea if they even attempt to throttle it that means you're watching waaaaaay too much porn or you're watching way too much HD porn lol :crying:
They can't throttle 0.5kbps lol

It was BitTorrent beta that got me downloading stock touchwiz, still less than half the 2gb/mo.

Yeah, Verizon has some really scumbaggy business practices as I've seen before. They will do anything legal to be able to get the most of your money.
Sprint doesn't do most of the crap that VZW does. There have been 0 documented cases of someone being throttled, even when this one guy reached 1TB of data on 4G, all they did was send him a letter asking him to stop. I usually go around 20-50GB on 3G per month and I haven't been throttled or anything.
One thing to watch out for is that speeds can be slow - Depending on where you live, you could be getting either 200kbps or 2000kbps.. A lot of markets are undergoing backhaul increase and other network vision enhancements. During this period, a lot of places can get to really low speeds. After it, however, there will probably be a consistent 1000-2000kbps everywhere on 3G.
Not to mention that they also plan to cover most of their existing 3G places with LTE by the end of 2014 so you won't have to care about speed after 2014 - It'll always be consistent LTE speeds.

Where are you located at? If you are in a good Sprint area or even better... a new LTE area... you should have switched yesterday. But I'd read into more so you not disappointed. Sprint is far better on a lot of things. But 3G speeds can be slow at times. I am a big fan of theirs.
My overall experience.
1. Sprint
2. T-Mobile
3. Verizon
4. ... any others...
5. AT&T
Lol
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I just switch two weeks ago from Verizon to Sprint because of the crap Verizon is doing.
I will say this Verizon's network and data speeds smoke Sprint's but I'm not willing to deal with Verizon's BS anymore.
I have found some places I go it takes longer for a web page to load on Sprint but nothing I can't deal with.
I even paid Verizon almost $1100.00 in ETF's for my 5 lines just to get away from them.
All in all I'm good with Sprint and so far happy I made the switch.
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Sprint would need faster data speeds to be able to actually throttle them. As it is now, its just a slight step above a 56k modem.

I'm in pretty much the same boat as bp328i. I moved from VZ to Sprint just about a month ago because of all the "Share Everything" garbage at VZ. I am fortunate in that I live near Chicago and although they have not officially rolled out 4G they are already in the testing phase so I get 4GLTE about 90% of the time. When it is up, it is great, but there are some significant "holes" in their coverage. I guess, at least while I'm here in my local area, I am pleased with Sprint and its unlimited data, etc. So I'm not sorry that I made the move.

That's the one thing Sprint has going for them, no BS. When they say unlimited, they mean it. As stated, totally depends on your area if you can actually use it or not. I'm around Chicago, so 3G speeds are pretty horrid, but obviously get better the further out from the city you get.
The only remaining question is if Sprint will retain unlimited data once they have good LTE coverage. IMO, that's the only thing that will keep people with them. It's the single selling point they have over everyone else. If they get rid of it, they don't have the network VZW has, so people will jump ship I'm sure.

hayzooos said:
That's the one thing Sprint has going for them, no BS. When they say unlimited, they mean it. As stated, totally depends on your area if you can actually use it or not. I'm around Chicago, so 3G speeds are pretty horrid, but obviously get better the further out from the city you get.
The only remaining question is if Sprint will retain unlimited data once they have good LTE coverage. IMO, that's the only thing that will keep people with them. It's the single selling point they have over everyone else. If they get rid of it, they don't have the network VZW has, so people will jump ship I'm sure.
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I would most likely "jump ship" back to VZ. You can't argue with their coverage. Loved their anti-iPhone campaign: "There's a 'map' for that."

Neil Fruit said:
I would most likely "jump ship" back to VZ. You can't argue with their coverage. Loved their anti-iPhone campaign: "There's a 'map' for that."
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I'm with you on this, if Sprint gets rid of unlimited I'll be right back to Verizon. If my only choice is a limited data plan I'll might as well have the best coverage.
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hayzooos said:
The only remaining question is if Sprint will retain unlimited data once they have good LTE coverage. IMO, that's the only thing that will keep people with them. It's the single selling point they have over everyone else. If they get rid of it, they don't have the network VZW has, so people will jump ship I'm sure.
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I think Sprint will retain its unlimited smartphone plans. But they may well crack down harder on unauthorized tethering, which is a violation of the current terms. (I hope they do.) I'll bet that since Verizon and AT&T have moved to close down their unlimited plans, the tethering pirates have migrated even more to Sprint to take advantage of the last remaining opportunity. Enforcing the contract better against abuse can keep unlimited smartphone contracts viable, and I understand the new network will provide better tools for detecting it.

Thx guys, going with Sprint. I'm already 3/4 up on my data for this month (Easytether PRO) and unlimited with Sprint is just about as much as 2GB w/VZW.

Shibby87 said:
It was BitTorrent beta that got me downloading stock touchwiz, still less than half the 2gb/mo.
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The BitTorrent is what got you throttled on Verizon.
All the major carriers have a clause in their contracts that look for certain data apps, torrents are one of them. IF they see you using one you can get a nasty letter, or throttled..

IAmSixNine said:
The BitTorrent is what got you throttled on Verizon.
All the major carriers have a clause in their contracts that look for certain data apps, torrents are one of them. IF they see you using one you can get a nasty letter, or throttled..
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I hope Sprint looks for the same thing then. I don't have a problem with people who tether now and again when in a bind, but I'm not a fan of those who tether just because they can and abuse the crap out of it. If that keeps happening, Sprint will ditch their unlimited data too, or worse, lock/encrypt bootloaders so it's tougher to root your phone and get free tethering.

IAmSixNine said:
The BitTorrent is what got you throttled on Verizon.
All the major carriers have a clause in their contracts that look for certain data apps, torrents are one of them. IF they see you using one you can get a nasty letter, or throttled..
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I can vouch for this. On sprint I went three months in a row with 30gb+ usage(tethering wimax and torrenting). After the third month I got a call and they said if I didn't stop torrenting (against tos) they would have to cancel my service. However they never mentioned tethering, so I said I wasn't aware that torrenting was not allowed and stopped and no issues since. Sprint is best as long as it stays unlimited.
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raiderep said:
I can vouch for this. On sprint I went three months in a row with 30gb+ usage(tethering wimax and torrenting). After the third month I got a call and they said if I didn't stop torrenting (against tos) they would have to cancel my service. However they never mentioned tethering, so I said I wasn't aware that torrenting was not allowed and stopped and no issues since. Sprint is best as long as it stays unlimited.
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Agreed, with Verizon, I was usually within 1-5GB depending on WiFi, I rarely exceeded 5GB, and the first time I used BitTorrent was for stock touchwiz. Those of us who use hotspot/tethering daily, Sprint seems most logical.
Technically, Verizon has no right to block 3rd party tethering apps and actually just paid out $1.25 million for trying to
Verizon Wireless To Pay $1.25 Million To Settle Investigation
Verizon Wireless offers customers its 4G LTE service on C Block spectrum. Verizon Wireless bid at
auction to acquire that spectrum, understanding that it was accompanied by open device and application
obligations. Specifically, licensees offering service on C Block spectrum “shall not deny, limit, or restrict
the ability of their customers to use the devices and applications of their choice on the licensee’s C Block
network,” subject to narrow exceptions.
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Guys, just got off the phone with Verizon to transfer my number to Sprint, they asked why, I told them I was dissatisfied with their share packages and viola, they added my old unlimited plan back, strait 4G LTE, no sharing. Just thought I'd share my mediocre victory with Verizon. If you have VZW and hate their share packages, you can try telling Verizon your swiching to Sprint and see if they let you into their unlimited grandfathered data plans