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Never really thought about Verizon but I'm to the point were I've had it with sprints ****ty service, so i got a few questions im a little hesitant about jumping to Verizon since their Android lineup seems lackluster (getting the nexus but probably only for a year then would get another phone) anybody hear anything about them acquiring better Android phones in the future, also been to the development section an don't see much activity going on for the LTE version any reason for this? Maybe due to how new it is? Any comments about Verizon as a service provider would be welcome also...
In my opinion, Verizon gets a pretty good lineup of phones. The Galaxy Nexus, Rezound, Razr, etc. As far as a carrier, very expensive but you get what you pay for.
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Verizon gets pretty good Android handsets IMO.
I just recently moved one of my AT&T lines to Verizon. Prior to that I was with Sprint. Sprint's data speeds were horrendous in my area and EVERY area in traveled too. I can't even imagine what its like after the Iphone release. Voice was always good on Sprint. AT&T's data blew sprint out of the water. Verizon is as good if not quite as fast 3g wise as AT&T but its incredibly reliable. 4g is blazing. 3g speeds are usually 1 - 1.8mbs on Verizon 3g. 4g pushes 15mbs. AT&T's 3g was anywhere from 800k to 4mbs. Verizon is definitely more stable and works in more places.
Both are leaps and bounds better than Sprint. Also with Sprints $10 premium add on its the same price as Verizon if you use Google voice or another data type service for texting. Which is what I do and saves me the $20 a month. I don't need many minutes since if I get low I can use google voice and GrooveIP for free minutes. Once its set up and configured it works great even over 3g.
In other words, jump ship the grass is greener. Sprint's service has taken a dump the last few years and they run a serious risk of bankruptcy before they can put all the spectrum they have to any real use. They have made one mistake after another after another for a long time now.
The LTE roms are on another site mostly.
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Thanks a lot guys ^^ its really between getting the LTE nexus or GSM on tmo, an whats the deal with the litte dev support for the LTE version?
*what site josh...?
i moved from AT&T to Verizon and havent looked back, love my GN, but other phones are respectable too,RAZR,REZOUND are good phones too depending on youre tastes
Rootzwiki, but if you have the choice, get the GSM version.. much better battery life.
Cool, thanks guys great input, how much better battery we talking about?
carlost24 said:
Cool, thanks guys great input, how much better battery we talking about?
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Significant amount. LTE is quite the battery drain. All depending on use patterns of course.
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Significant amount. LTE is quite the battery drain. All depending on use patterns of course.
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It's really not that bad. I mean if you hammer it on LTE it will drain quicker than usual but it's not this destroyer of batteries that people make it out to be.
while LTE may destroy ur battery, u can always turn it off till u need it. there is plenty of dev support for the LTE version, and verizon's network coverage destroys all other three carriers put together.
also.. if u are going to pay for a data plan anyways, might as well enjoy the subsidy.
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whats the deal with the litte dev support for the LTE version?
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The GSM version works on all providers in all countries all over the earth. The LTE version works on one provider, in one country.
I think the GSM-model simply has what you may refer to as a "immensely much bigger user-base" and hence more developers than what's when you look at the cold, hard facts, is basically a carrier-phone, available on one carrier only.
If you travel out of the country often get GSM. Otherwise get the LTE model. People wanna make LTE out to be some battery black hole but its not. Sprint vs vzw is no contest. Verizon 3g is actually usable and 4g knocks my socks off. It maintains 25 megs on a heavily loaded network and gives me 50+ when its lightly loaded. Honestly development is not really a problem for me because ICS is so good.
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If you travel out of the country often get GSM. Otherwise get the LTE model. People wanna make LTE out to be some battery black hole but its not. Sprint vs vzw is no contest. Verizon 3g is actually usable and 4g knocks my socks off. It maintains 25 megs on a heavily loaded network and gives me 50+ when its lightly loaded. Honestly development is not really a problem for me because ICS is so good.
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I can't seem to get above 7 anywhere in Denver. Any chance its my phone?
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I can't seem to get above 7 anywhere in Denver. Any chance its my phone?
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It's going to vary largely due to many factors. What's your signal strength, how many other people are using 4G in your area, etc...
I was traveling through Baltimore, MD and was managing only 12 MBPS with 1 bar of signal strength on New Years Eve, which honestly, is easily more than enough for anything. Keep in mind, as time goes on, more people get 4G phones, and use them more, available bandwidth is going to go down anyway. I don't understand why people think they should get 20 MBPS anyway....what are you going to do? If you don't have an unlimited plan, what's the point? You'll use up the small amount of data allotment that you have so quick you'll never even know it.
Thanks guys i think i shall pick up the LTE tomorrow...
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Never really thought about Verizon but I'm to the point were I've had it with sprints ****ty service, so i got a few questions im a little hesitant about jumping to Verizon since their Android lineup seems lackluster (getting the nexus but probably only for a year then would get another phone) anybody hear anything about them acquiring better Android phones in the future, also been to the development section an don't see much activity going on for the LTE version any reason for this? Maybe due to how new it is? Any comments about Verizon as a service provider would be welcome also...
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I left Sprint for Verizon 3 months ago, and the extra cost is well worth it - it's like having a landline in my pocket.
As far as your assessment of the Android phone lineup, I'm not sure where you're coming from. I think they have a great lineup, although certainly it's slanted toward the Motorola line. With Google buy Motorola mobility, that should end up being a very good thing.
I also don't think they meddle with the phones nearly as much as ATT does - but I have no direct experience with ATT, just what my friends tell me.
I don't know about all your guys' locations but I live in Mesa, AZ (it is about 30 min from downtown Phoenix). I get VERY slow LTE in the city. Even with 2 bars I get ~5 down and 5 up. As far as signal strength, it isn't much different to any other 4G phones I have used. I get no data in my school's basement and the phone always seems to drop the data service. This morning I had 1X until I restarted the device. At a small town in east AZ, Verizon is the only one with data service, but it is VERY!!!! slow. 3G in Phoenix area is about .8 down (on a good day).
Was hesitant due to what im hearing about battery life on LTE, but i guess I'll deal with battery issue since i do want the 32gig option an I'm hearing nothing but good things about Verizon, any other differences between LTE an GSM version?
I drop Sprint and made the switch to Verizon. I had nothing but network problems on Sprint, crappy speed on 3g/4g network. But one thing I can say is once you make the switch to an LTE phone you’ll never go back to regular 3g/4g service! is like going from DVD to bluray.
Okay so after months of complaining about service and one FCC complaint Sprint is letting me out of my contract. My service is beyond poor, and from all the research I have done it seems to affect everyone in my area, (Detroit) You would think Sprint would do a little better in a major city. I have until September 15th to find a new carrier.
Now, I love my S2, it is my first high end Android and I will only buy high end phones from now on... I am hooked.
Now being in Detroit my options are (4g is a must)
Verizon (LTE)
ATT (HSPA +)
T Mobile (HSPA+)
And to further complicate matters
MetroPCS (LTE)
Now,... not certain but I suspect that part of my reception issues with Sprint are caused by the less than stellar radio in the 4g touch. My first reaction was to buy a Verizon S3 but then I started having second thoughts because Motorola and HTC are known for better radios... damn.
I am currently running the hacked Verizon PRL allowing me to get Verizon 3G, it still pretty much sucks for me but still 10x faster than Sprint. I get from 100 to 500 Kbps. (But also get better voice and no dropped calls)
Now.. my whole point of wanting a fast internet connection is so I can browse the web and stream video at work.. and I work in a large industrial building made in 1940 with REAL bricks and stuff. None of that plastic modern crap,
From what I understand LTE signals have a hard time penetrating buildings... so it should have twice as much work to penetrate mine.
I have been playing with EVERYONE'S phone I know at work so I can test there internet speed... I think people at work think I lost my mind.
Unfortunately I work with cheapskates so the only 4G I was able to play with was MetroPCS which has a hit and miss 4G signal at work depending on the location in the building. I did get to play with one T Mobile HSPA+ phone and it got 2 MBPS down.. (I THINK that's enough to stream Netflix?)
Does HSPA+ penetrate buildings better than 4G LTE??
Now.. MetroPCS phones are generally pretty crappy and as of yet I don't think there is a way to flash over to them with working 4G, however...
there is a strong and somewhat substantiated rumor that the S3 is coming to MetroPCS before the end of the year. Okay.. this sounds almost perfect as I live and work in a very strong MetroPCS LTE area. Now I am back to my original concern that the S3 wont pull in the signal as well as other phones and is the only phone this carrier almost has that I would consider.
Now as far as the other carriers go I have the standard selection of phones... I just want a smoking hot phone with a large screen with a equally smoking hot radio. (is that so wrong?)
I know you guys cant give me a definitive answer about this because its all about my location and the location of the towers but I have researched phones and services until my eyes started bleeding and appreciated any educated guesses and advice. The only carrier I have any experience with is Sprint and MetroPCS and I have never had working 4G before. I want it so bad that I am willing to pay Verizon's prices if need be. On the other hand I have heard some people say that the Radio on the S3 is slightly improved... so if I could get an S3 on MetroPCS with unlimited 4G that would be awesome.
Buying a phone can be harder than buying a damn house.
I wouldn't get the gs3 on vzw its locked up tight so no rooting/modifications. I personally wouldn't go to vzw period, if i had to switch of go with TMo or AT&T in that order for TMo I'm not current on all the devices but I'd go with the gs3 or one s idk how HTC is with the bootloader tho, I know the one x and evolte are a pain in the ass to root. On att I'd go with the gs3 or gNote, although your other option would be to buy an unlocked device like the.gNex and use it on TMo or ATT prepaid which is what I would do personally. I'd get an unlocked gNex directly from Google and use it on TMos unlimited prepaid plan
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Gnex for me
I'm in metro Detroit too, and feel your pain. Data speeds have dropped to a slow drip over the last couple years (not that they were ever fast here). I'm leaning toward tmobile when I get bounced. Probably an S3.
It's not the radio's really you have to worry about when it comes to building penetrations. It's the frequency the network runs on. Verizon has great building penetration with 3g and LTE because Verizon owns most of the good low frequency. If you want good 4g and good building penetration Verizon is the way to go. But, you will pay good money for it. I don't know how much Metro has improved but, I have a friend who has Metro in the heart of a city that Metro is supposed to be good in. He always call me from his home phone because his service is weak.
As far as phones are concerned Verizon has the Gnex but I would try to get the unlocked Galaxy S3. I'm not sure if they are available to anyone but I read on Engadget a few weeks back that they were going to sell them for Verizon.
Just my 2cents. Good luck though.
i too probably will not be on sprint much longer due to signal, or rather lack there of... its my intention when I'm free to skip major carriers all together and use a month to month prepay provider that uses att's network... att and Verizon offer the best coverage in my area but I find their prices to be outlandish... by going with a prepay provider on att's network I'm getting the same good coverage for $45/mo, I can buy awesome phones for a very reasonable price directly from Google play, and as att is GSM I don't need to worry about my nexus experance being ruined like those on cdma networks do... lastly should I want something other than a nexus device I'll be able to buy used phones off of eBay/Craigslist without having to worry about asinine ESN's anymore, more than once sprint customer service has told me an ESN is clear, so I bought the phone, only later to find out that it was not when trying to activate it... not cool... actually I also just realized I could simply put aside the 60-70 I'll be saving a month on the bill and just buy the newest cutting edge device at full retail every 9 months with my savings... upgrade every two years?hah...
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I only get average of 300Kb/s, where do you find the Verizon PRL and tutorial?
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I would just stick with sprint for may be 2-3 more months. I am sure Detroit will get the network upgrades sooner than later. You can also check scheduled upgrades on network.sprint.com website. But then again I understand how much it would suck for you with bad connection 24x7.
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Rich3077, I am in the same situation as you and will be switching to Verizon as soon as the next round of phones are released (iPhone 5, next Nexus, etc.). The current lineup of phones only has the S3 that's new, pretty much everything else is a little old and lacking (GNex's camera, no SD card, and no GSM). With my experience with the S2 and Samsung's/Sprint's radio quality, and generally delayed OS upgrades I am really hoping that I don't have to buy another Samsung-branded phone again, and that the next Nexus is better than the current and previous Samsung versions.
Plus, it's starting to sound like we might actually start to see quad core phones with LTE. If you can, I would suggest waiting two to three months before you pull the trigger.
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I only get average of 300Kb/s, where do you find the Verizon PRL and tutorial?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1267893
This is the thread I got the Verizon PRL's from, as well as instructions. You may have to try a few of them before you find one that works for you.
Thanks everyone for your reply's.. choices suck right now because as soon as I find a phone that has acceptable hardware I find out that it has a non replaceable battery or no SD card slot. What the hell are the manufactures thinking?? Its gonna cost me a bundle because I have 3 phones on my plan but even if I gotta pay full retail for phones I will if I can just get good service as well as a hot phone.
Rich3077 said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1267893
This is the thread I got the Verizon PRL's from, as well as instructions. You may have to try a few of them before you find one that works for you.
Thanks everyone for your reply's.. choices suck right now because as soon as I find a phone that has acceptable hardware I find out that it has a non replaceable battery or no SD card slot. What the hell are the manufactures thinking?? Its gonna cost me a bundle because I have 3 phones on my plan but even if I gotta pay full retail for phones I will if I can just get good service as well as a hot phone.
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Look for a good unlocked GSM phone and use something like TMos prepaid plan, their unlimited is throttled after 5gb but u still get around 2-3mbps down on 4g
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Rich3077 said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1267893
This is the thread I got the Verizon PRL's from, as well as instructions. You may have to try a few of them before you find one that works for you.
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I've been trying to a couple different.. I tried 00001, 00002 and 01337 and none of them gave me more than 300kb/s burst and 60kb/s normal. But I guess ill try them all.
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I've been trying to a couple different.. I tried 00001, 00002 and 01337 and none of them gave me more than 300kb/s burst and 60kb/s normal. But I guess ill try them all.
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Try 11115
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If I were not on contract, the $30 T-Mobile/Walmart plan with a $350 Galaxy Nexus from Google Play would be awfully tempting. Only catch is you only get 100 minutes. Given the fact that I average about 50 minutes a month anyway, I don't consider this a problem.
You would have to give up your LTE dreams. HSPA+ ain't so bad, is it?
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Try 11115
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Damn, 11119 is getting 1mb-2mb/s. Not sure if I want to try the others or not now lol
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Damn, 11119 is getting 1mb-2mb/s. Not sure if I want to try the others or not now lol
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The 1111x series are the best I always had good results with 11115 on my evo but now I don't need to do the prl hack cuz my sprint 3g is 1+mbps on peak and 2+mbps off peak
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I agree with evils first suggestion. Get the unlocked galaxy nexus and use it on att or tmobile.
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I agree with evils first suggestion. Get the unlocked galaxy nexus and use it on att or tmobile.
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Yeah if I had to switch from sprint I'd eat the cost of an unlocked device up front to go prepaid cuz all the other carriers are so damn expensive on contract, hell you can use straight talk prepaid or any GSM prepaid plan with an unlocked device and getting the unlocked gnex from Google guarantees you speedy updates that work right
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FYI, it doesn't look like you are looking at Verizon S3, but in case if that thought crossed your mind, be aware that the S3 on Verizon has a locked bootloader. Given that you are on xda I am assuming that you probably care about this.
http://www.androidauthority.com/ver...3-locked-bootloader-developer-edition-100550/
I've recently moved from a sprint NS4G to a Sprint Gnex (toroplus).
The stock 4.1.1 is awesome, and the performance is great. Battery life and heat are a bit of a issue, but not a deal killer at all.
LTE Coverage ??
My main issue is LTE coverage, or the lack thereof. I have had Sprint be very responsive to my concerns in opening a network ticket, and walking through a network reset [ i.e. SCRTN ( Enter *#*#72786#*#* + MSL ). ] and other steps.
In looking at other threads, posts and dedicated Sprint 4g forums, I'm getting the sense that the toroplus has a less than steller network performance record.
My daughter's unlocked GSM is on a T-Mobile $30/ plan, and it kills mine in all areas around town, so I'm really focusing this thought on the Sprint toroplus.
So, give me feedback on this thought -> Should I switch it for a Sprint Galaxy S 3?
I can not bear to think of not having a stock JB to work off of, but without a steady and strong data connection, so much of the superior software experience is lost to me anyway. I have network issues impacting the performance of so much of the software, from Google talk app to google now.
I hate the GSIII's skin and home button, but if it would give me a significantly better network/data experience, I'm tempted to make the switch.
What do you think?
p.s. Although I am obviously asking a question, I intentionally posted this is 'general' as the overall nature is more of a discussion/opinion. If this is incorrect, PM me and I'll move it or delete it.
I'm assuming your daughter has the GSM version of the Galaxy Nexus? Your question is more about Cell Providers than about phones since you're basing your issues on network performance.
Depends
Gs3 is newer blah blah and has 2gb ram. Nexus is a nexus you will get the latest android sooner than anyone else
Other than that gs3 wins
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Depends
Gs3 is newer blah blah and has 2gb ram. Nexus is a nexus you will get the latest android sooner than anyone else
Other than that gs3 wins
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Agreed but he's basing his theory on the fact that his daughter's phone is faster (network wise) but it's a different network all together. I don't see how a different phone would help if it's a network issue.
Better phone won't make data faster
Get gs3 for T-Mobile in that case
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Why compare when you can buy both..common sense when in doubt buy those two. That would solve ur curiosity:sly:
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Yeah, just buy both, duh. Lol. If only.
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It seems as though, due to both phones being made by Samsung, that the radios in each would at least be comparable, resulting in similar network connectivity and quality. The good thing is that Sprint has the 2 week return period so you can always get the S3 and try it and take it back if the network quality is the same as what you are experiencing with the gnex but you might have to eat the $36 restocking fee... Or complain enough they waive it, haha.
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The S3 is a Samsung so it has its reputable crappy radio signal. I dont think getting the S3 will change things period. Sprint's network is well.. Sprint's network. It has highs and lows you just happen to be in a Low. I mean at my house i get 2 bars of 3G and its like .50 - .75 mbps but going up the street it'll hit full bars with 1.2 - 1.7 mbps its really iffy and all depends on location. Your best bet would be to drop Sprint sell the Gnex and get a GSM gnex and put that sucker on Prepaid T-Mobile or any other GSM carrier.
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The S3 is a Samsung so it has its reputable crappy radio signal. I dont think getting the S3 will change things period. Sprint's network is well.. Sprint's network. It has highs and lows you just happen to be in a Low. I mean at my house i get 2 bars of 3G and its like .50 - .75 mbps but going up the street it'll hit full bars with 1.2 - 1.7 mbps its really iffy and all depends on location. Your best bet would be to drop Sprint sell the Gnex and get a GSM gnex and put that sucker on Prepaid T-Mobile or any other GSM carrier.
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I think you are right, my issue is a get 'the job' to pay for Sprint, so ..... I guess I'm getting what I pay for!
I'm wondering if anyone out there has used on Sprint both a Gnex and G3 at similar locations to prove/disprove if the radios are the same. Seems likely they'd be similar, I had read some reports that at least on Sprint the G3's radio was performing better on LTE.
Thanks.
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I think you are right, my issue is a get 'the job' to pay for Sprint, so ..... I guess I'm getting what I pay for!
I'm wondering if anyone out there has used on Sprint both a Gnex and G3 at similar locations to prove/disprove if the radios are the same. Seems likely they'd be similar, I had read some reports that at least on Sprint the G3's radio was performing better on LTE.
Thanks.
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I'm not even in the US but my LTE experiences prove otherwise. Had a GS2 Skyrocket and while LTE speeds are blazing it has a very weak signal compared to 3g/4g. In full 3g/4g areas it would always have 2 bars less. Indoors it was even worse sometimes gone.(would swap back to 4g) Now not all networks are the same but thought I'd share. As previously mentioned it seems Sprint in your area is the problem not your phone
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I'm not even in the US but my LTE experiences prove otherwise. Had a GS2 Skyrocket and while LTE speeds are blazing it has a very weak signal compared to 3g/4g. In full 3g/4g areas it would always have 2 bars less. Indoors it was even worse sometimes gone.(would swap back to 4g) Now not all networks are the same but thought I'd share. As previously mentioned it seems Sprint in your area is the problem not your phone
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There may be small differences but I would be shocked to learn that the gs3 has some kind of radical advantage over the gnex. The problem is sprint. Luckily they are rolling out lte pretty quickly. By Christmas we should see a decent footprint.
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So as I am sure many of you will be doing eventually. I and thinking about getting the S4. Only issue I am having is Sprints network. I am really debating in my mind if sprint is worth the cost considering they have one of the slowest networks. I have been thinking about going to t mobile since most of my phone use is in major cities in the US, with and occasional use in the Caribbean.
So will you be staying with Sprint or moving to a new network?
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I get good wimax and this phone does everything. S4 is S3 on steroids so I am thinking about passing for S5!
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So as I am sure many of you will be doing eventually. I and thinking about getting the S4. Only issue I am having is Sprints network. I am really debating in my mind if sprint is worth the cost considering they have one of the slowest networks. I have been thinking about going to t mobile since most of my phone use is in major cities in the US, with and occasional use in the Caribbean.
So will you be staying with Sprint or moving to a new network?
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i've already moved from Sprint over to Verizon.. I live in nyc and for me Sprint just sucks out here, the 4g is like 3g and the 3g is like 1x. Lots of dropped calls too, so i flashed over to Verizon. Much better network IMO. T-mobile is good to my g/f has them, great 4G speeds.
It depends on where you spend most of your time. The Sprint network is great in some places and sub par in others. We dont have any official 4G service in KY and 3G is sometimes questionable, but I lived in TX last year and had great service. I occasionally get unofficial wimax here and have no interest in switching phones until LTE arrives. My wallet can't handle Verizon so if I switch service in the future it will probably be to prepaid or back to TMO.
I personally think you should drop sprint like a rock because I have sprint out here in Detroit and their empty promises of 4G for the last 2 years has been nothing shy of an insult, not to mention their signal sucks horribly out here and their 3G speeds rival that of Dial-Up, and that's if you're lucky enough to get data over the 3G connection at all...
T-Mobile also has one of the smallest 4G networks (from what I've heard, don't know how true that is), and I've heard of nothing but problems from the few people that I know that own a T-Mobile phone. My other friends with AT&T never have a single issue, and my other friend with Verizon also has absolutely no problems with them what-so-ever, so I'd say go with AT&T or Verizon - I know I will be as soon as my sprint contract is up in a year.
TMO's LTE network just launched I think so it's naturally almost nonexistent. Their HSPA+ network is more than enough though.
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For those with bad call & data connections, it'd probably be best to switch to a different carrier. As for me, I switched to Sprint from T-Mobile last year because T-Mobile had crappy call quality and connection problems. Fortunately, Orange County has really good 4G WiMax coverage and speeds (my 4G WiMax is faster than my friend's at&t LTE speed on his Note 2) and we're due for 4G LTE in a month or so.
New York City is an active Network Deployment market that is well under way by Alcatel-Lucent. The only places where I wouldn't upgrade to an LTE device on Sprint are in areas where NV has not yet begun and won't begun for an another few months (and then it'll take a month or two to get the stuff up and running after they begin).
Look here to see what other people reported..
http://www.sensorly.com/
and look here for more info about Network Vision.
http://s4gru.com/index.php?/topic/1901-network-visionlte-new-york-city-market/
It depends on how strong the T-Mobile network is in your area. In mine, it isn't that good. I have this phone, s2, and I have a lte backup phone. My area does have lte coverage but it's not completely saturated yet. I have 4g lte at home and an area of one of my jobs. My best dl speed test with lte has been just shy of 4000 KB. There are a lot of if's to consider if switching to another carrier. Do your homework first before making a final decision. There's an app out there, I forgot the name, that shows the coverage area on a map with different carriers and modes. I'd suggest checking that out to gather more information. Here you go. https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.sensorly.viewer
Your question is very area dependent. I live in Pittsburgh PA there's no lte in my area yet but it's coming. My 3g/4g is awesome though, I rarely find myself running 4g because the 3g is so good. I will be getting the S4 but not right away, I'm gonna wait for the price to drop and development to pick up.
Thanks for all the responses. I think I'm going to stay with the S2 for at least 2 two 3 more months or so before making a switch. I want to see what sprint has to offer in my area of NYC.
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In my area Memphis, TN we have bad sprint coverage and i don't like it. Internet is very slow and sometimes calls don't come through
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For those with bad call & data connections, it'd probably be best to switch to a different carrier. As for me, I switched to Sprint from T-Mobile last year because T-Mobile had crappy call quality and connection problems. Fortunately, Orange County has really good 4G WiMax coverage and speeds (my 4G WiMax is faster than my friend's at&t LTE speed on his Note 2) and we're due for 4G LTE in a month or so.
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inland empire is terrible wish it was like orange county...
i travel to and from inland empire, orange county, SGV and Las vegas alot and inland empire is terrible which is were i am the most of the time...
was thinking of going to tmobile but worried about there coverage.. some people say its good but others have nothing but problems.. wonder how there service is away from the major cities.. Verizon is the best but too much .. thinking of flashing phone to verizon prepaid but would only get 2-3mb download but still alot better than sprint in the inland empire.
The official jb on hercules made it so much better back in April.
I got brand new s3 and s4 hardware wise of coarse they r better but reception on s3 was horrible. S4 is better in every area however there is a big down side.
The nature of LTE connection is far more fragile than HSPA that I can not stream I used to on my hercules.
Yea sure my peak dl speed gets up to 40mbs easily but what good does that do if I m gonna get disconnected so frequently. I mean am I gonna go to the nearest tower to secure data connection now?
Though my other family member still enjoys their hercules, I regret selling mine.
Anyhow I have already spotted 4 lte towers around my house however it makes me mad whenever it drops sinal to edge when I know strong hspa is there.
Phone over 500 dollars yet u can not use it like a phone? Sigh.... I already have a tablet ya know?
Stick to hercules and do not waste your money untill LTE-A(3times faster than LTE) becomes mainstream.
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sharpeyedman said:
The official jb on hercules made it so much better back in April.
I got brand new s3 and s4 hardware wise of coarse they r better but reception on s3 was horrible. S4 is better in every area however there is a big down side.
The nature of LTE connection is far more fragile than HSPA that I can not stream I used to on my hercules.
Yea sure my peak dl speed gets up to 40mbs easily but what good does that do if I m gonna get disconnected so frequently. I mean am I gonna go to the nearest tower to secure data connection now?
Though my other family member still enjoys their hercules, I regret selling mine.
Anyhow I have already spotted 4 lte towers around my house however it makes me mad whenever it drops sinal to edge when I know strong hspa is there.
Phone over 500 dollars yet u can not use it like a phone? Sigh.... I already have a tablet ya know?
Stick to hercules and do not waste your money untill LTE-A(3times faster than LTE) becomes mainstream.
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are you using a att s4 on tmobile ?. your gonna get edge mostly unless your in a reframed area. there are some post about flashing tmobile radios on i337 you can give iy a try and it should pick up hspa+
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jason4962 said:
are you using a att s4 on tmobile ?. your gonna get edge mostly unless your in a reframed area. there are some post about flashing tmobile radios on i337 you can give iy a try and it should pick up hspa+
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Yes my s4 got its AWS unlocked. And yes I am talking about areas where both AWS HSPA and 1900 HSPA connections strong.
When I say it should not be on edge, I am talking about places where there are both or either strong AWS and redarmed HSPA connections are available.
LTE is great when u r physically closer to the tower however this is a mobile device. You are on the move and hercules gets far superior consistent reception.
Whereas the S4 starts losing it and searchs and confused when the lte is weak. Even when it is on 4G, I see ocassional drops on connections. This becomes irritating when you use messengers, social apps and forum apps.
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sharpeyedman said:
Yes my s4 got its AWS unlocked. And yes I am talking about areas where both AWS HSPA and 1900 HSPA connections strong.
When I say it should not be on edge, I am talking about places where there are both or either strong AWS and redarmed HSPA connections are available.
LTE is great when u r physically closer to the tower however this is a mobile device. You are on the move and hercules gets far superior consistent reception.
Whereas the S4 starts losing it and searchs and confused when the lte is weak. Even when it is on 4G, I see ocassional drops on connections. This becomes irritating when you use messengers, social apps and forum apps.
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sell it and get a tmobile s4. or it wont make a differens
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