http://gizmodo.com/5894572/in+app-ads-are-destroying-your-battery-life
In-app ads possibly draining more battery with location pinging ads even if apps are not currently active. If true, are there certain countermeasures to prevent this? I have Juice Defender Ultimate but I can't really tell if it does anything measurable when it comes to managing apps.
Download rom toolbox pro and use the ad blocker to block all ads. Mine blocked over 50,000 attempts in 1 day!
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Does Toolbox Pro have any advantages over Adfree?
Adfree always let ads through for me. And plus rom toolbox is absolutely everything in one app...root explorer..app manager(just like titanium backup)..font changer...rom manager..and you can theme your rom with it, change boot animation etc.
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Towle said:
Adfree always let ads through for me. And plus rom toolbox is absolutely everything in one app...root explorer..app manager(just like titanium backup)..font changer...rom manager..and you can theme your rom with it, change boot animation etc.
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Agreed, Rom Toolbox is the way to go
And then the carriers complain about lack of spectrum and want to charge you more for data? Effing ponderous.
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been noticing the updated xda app does this... i see it eatting little bits of cpu hours after ive been using it.
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Wow ROM toolbox is the bomb...thx guys for the suggestion!
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Towle said:
Download rom toolbox pro and use the ad blocker to block all ads. Mine blocked over 50,000 attempts in 1 day!
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Cool. How do you know how many you've blocked per day?
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Cool. How do you know how many you've blocked per day?
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It says in rom toolbox under the ad blocker settings.
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Towle said:
It says in rom toolbox under the ad blocker settings.
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Under Total URLs blocked?
Edit: Those of you using Rom Toolbox are seeing much improved battery results?
if so, Great tool thanks guys!
Does ROM Toolbox also block web browser ads?
I have Adaway but it doesn't always block everything.
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Does ROM Toolbox also block web browser ads?
I have Adaway but it doesn't always block everything.
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For the few days I've been using it, it blocks most. Wish it blocked ads in angry birds
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i just wanted to point out this comment by jordo_99 to that article...
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Since there seem to be people trying to inform everyone else about how this works I'm just going to explain it to you all...
1) ad blockers will block the ad request from being sent out to the internet...there is still a line of code from the app saying "buahaha, show these asshats my ad" but AdFree is all like "I pity the foo who has to look at ads. Access DENIED!"
2) Such "ad requests" are put out infrequently----meaning infrequently to a computer...so probably every few minutes or however often the ad would change...some apps will only show 1 ad per launch...some cycle regularly so it's always different. Regardless a few lines of code requesting an ad is very insigificant.
3) because the request is denied by the ad blocker (and preventing the phone from initiating a data signal) your battery usage is negligible at best...the few lines of code per minute that are being parsed and then denied are as insignificant and a few blades of grass on your lawn as far as your phone is concerned.
4) The display on any phone is what uses the most battery life...then radio/GPS signals...no exceptions. If your phone is in a locked state then ad requests are disabled. This is how Android OS works.
5) If you're on your phone NOT using a data connection is the only time when this is applicable...and that's IF you do NOT have an ad blocker (which is the majority of phones). Even then...the data signal caused by the ad request is insignificant to the battery cost of the screen.
6) The article itself even mentions that the "energy required" is only comparing ad requests to the rest of the apps commands...it's not comparing this to the OS energy use or display or radio signals...etc. If you aren't familiar with how much battery use a single app uses then you should know that at best these ad requests are going to be less than 4% at a very generous estimation.
7) This Mario guy should probably read the article he's summarizing before he actually posts about it
Considering all of the following...you have to be a non-rooted, non-AdFree (or other ad blocking app) user that is using the phone without any other app using a data connection for this to even be applicable...I'd say that's going to be a very small majority of people. I don't see many people being rooted and having AdFree installed to counter this...but I would be very surprised if someone is on their phone without using a data signal for enough of their usage to even make this worth mentioning.
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ad requests are only a very small percentage of your battery use...This Mario guy didn't even read the article before posting his completely mis-leading title. The 70% estimation is comparing the energy of the ad request vs the application's battery use...which is very small. Additionally, your radio signals (the reason this figure is so high) are likely to be in use already and therefore not affected anyway.
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i just wanted to point out this comment by jordo_99 to that article...
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I disagree. I'm noticing signficantly less drain on idle and during app usage. My Data Manager tells you there's always some data transfer occuring during idle. And anytime a 4G signal is pinged for anything the battery takes a nosedive. Any opportunity to prevent a needless data connection (on 4G) is a good one.
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I disagree. I'm noticing signficantly less drain on idle and during app usage. My Data Manager tells you there's always some data transfer occuring during idle. And anytime a 4G signal is pinged for anything the battery takes a nosedive. Any opportunity to prevent a needless data connection (on 4G) is a good one.
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but does it tell you where that data request is originating? more likely it's push for gmail or something like that than an ad in an app when the screen is locked...
during app usage, sure blocking the ads will reduce radio usage and thus power, but nothing noticeable... especially compared to the screen. on idle, that's all placebo.
If any radio is being used, it will use power. If you can stop unwanted radio use, your battery will last longer. Basically if you put your phone in airplane mode, and all your radios are off, your battery will last much longer. If alot of ad requests were made, like 50000 it would impact battery.
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i just wanted to point out this comment by jordo_99 to that article...
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Can you summarise what jordo_99 has said? I dont really understand..
Jesus, this is like 1 year old news...
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Seen this and thought it was fantastic, Avast have gone all out - even adding extra features for root users.
Not to bothered with the antivirus jargon as i dont think its required on mobile devices so long as you install apps from the android/amazon market. but the anti theif stuff looks fantastic, even tells you if they stick in a new sim card in your stolen phone, as well as the standard gps stuff. And if your rooted (if your not why are you here?) even if they wipe the phone the app stays there..... great stuff.
Link
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.avast.android.mobilesecurity
You tube link
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=sVzou1P68I8
Anti theft is very complete. Would take much more than an average electronics thief to crack into my phone to use it again.
Still wondering if it's needed. Also, does anyone know why it says it needs to stay in the notification list. It takes up valuable space at the top of the list just to tell you there's nothing wrong.
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looks cool gonna try it, Thanks
According to the reviews by security experts the virus and trojan side of current Android AV programs is no better than 50% success rate .
jje
I've used Lookout mobile security now for a long time the free version as the paid version costs too much every month so im interested in Avast as i used to have it on my laptop but i have some questions, can someone let me know how this compares to Lookout and is it a battery drainer or not?
Thanks
Never used lookout but a for the battery drain I haven't noticed anything higher than 2% for avast. Overall battery life doesn't seem to have much of an impact.
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Never used lookout but a for the battery drain I haven't noticed anything higher than 2% for avast. Overall battery life doesn't seem to have much of an impact.
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Cheers i may ditch Lookout for now and try Avast then.
Well, i'm been more than happy with Avast on my PC, so can't see why i shouldn't give it a go on the phone as well
It doesn't seem to drain the battery, and i really like the built-in firewall + install on /system :-D
Does it really need to have the notification icon? I can't actually see which difference it makes, but it sure is annoying as I like to have a clean design on my homescreens.. My guess would be that it needs the icon to deliver notifications if something happens that i need to report, and if it's disabled it can't deliver these..
Just my 2 cent
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Well, i'm been more than happy with Avast on my PC, so can't see why i shouldn't give it a go on the phone as well
It doesn't seem to drain the battery, and i really like the built-in firewall + install on /system :-D
Does it really need to have the notification icon? I can't actually see which difference it makes, but it sure is annoying as I like to have a clean design on my homescreens.. My guess would be that it needs the icon to deliver notifications if something happens that i need to report, and if it's disabled it can't deliver these..
Just my 2 cent
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It'll be there to stop android closing the program, I'm sure since early days this will be removed or be able to have a blank like tasker..
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Dont think we need It, maybe anti-theft but the Antivirus itself? I tried and unistalled, just another useless process in my case
Well i uninstalled Lookout and downloaded Avast and it certainly offers a lot more than lookout (unless you are willing to pay every month) the only thing with Avast it says it's outdated but when i go into the app it says up to date, asides from that it certainly looks very capable indeed.
You can install this app, then set the anti-theft and then remove the app. The anti-theft part will still be present only the virus scanner is deleted.
That the way I use it, combined with LBE Privacy Guard for setting the permissions on apps. I don't see the point in using a virusscanner if you are limiting apps permissions.
i have avast installed and it does a lot for a free program.
im just wondering if it scans every file that the system is using. if it does, wouldnt it drain my battery faster?
also kinda interested in lbe privacy guard. any other users have experience using it? any link in xda for comments and such on it?
I uninstalled the anti virus part. Now i only got the anti theft app and i am loving it! I feel alot safer now.
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So do you guys find it necessary to have a ram manager to free memory or no ?
No, ics have a good system to manage ram.
No. Creates more issues than it solves.
+1 for no. Watchdog has always been a must have for me, but it hasn't yet had to call out an app on my SGN.
No. Don't use automated tools to kill tasks and free up memory... in Android, free memory is wasted memory. You make your phone work harder when you interfere with its built-in memory management.
I kill running services that shouldn't be running... That allows for more RAM to be used by active applications.
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I kill running services that shouldn't be running... That allows for more RAM to be used by active applications.
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Users always feel they are smarter than the OS when it comes to killing processes. They are usually wrong.
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Users always feel they are smarter than the OS when it comes to killing processes. They are usually wrong.
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Funniest thing I read all day and its true
adrynalyne said:
Users always feel they are smarter than the OS when it comes to killing processes. They are usually wrong.
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Yes,I feel that having running SERVICES that I'm not using is a huge waste of memory and battery resources. Android is not smart in this regard.
For example, I use the amazon app store to check for free apps of the day ONCE a day. No need to have it run as a service all day, using up ram and CPU. Another example is pulse news reader. I want to go in the app, refresh the feeds, read them and exit, but the app remains running as a service for no reason. I also use a document scanner app which runs as a service when I'm not using it for no good reason. So, I kill the service.
To suggest that I'm wrong in doing this shows a lack of understanding of the issue at hand.
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Yes,I feel that having running SERVICES that I'm not using is a huge waste of memory and battery resources. Android is not smart in this regard.
For example, I use the amazon app store to check for free apps of the day ONCE a day. No need to have it run as a service all day, using up ram and CPU. Another example is pulse news reader. I want to go in the app, refresh the feeds, read them and exit, but the app remains running as a service for no reason. I also use a document scanner app which runs as a service when I'm not using it for no good reason. So, I kill the service.
To suggest that I'm wrong in doing this shows a lack of understanding of the issue at hand.
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You have no idea how android works and deserve to have your nexus confiscated.
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EP2008 said:
Yes,I feel that having running SERVICES that I'm not using is a huge waste of memory and battery resources. Android is not smart in this regard.
For example, I use the amazon app store to check for free apps of the day ONCE a day. No need to have it run as a service all day, using up ram and CPU. Another example is pulse news reader. I want to go in the app, refresh the feeds, read them and exit, but the app remains running as a service for no reason. I also use a document scanner app which runs as a service when I'm not using it for no good reason. So, I kill the service.
To suggest that I'm wrong in doing this shows a lack of understanding of the issue at hand.
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Android does not operate like windows. Apps listed as "Running" are actually only loaded in ram and are not using cpu cycles or battery power. Android loads them in ram in order for them to start/be available more quickly to the user. If Android needs more ram for a task, it will remove any thing it needs to in order to free up more ram. You are wasting battery power and cpu cycles by "killing" those apps/service. If you think of ram as a memory stick you will realize that once something is loaded there, it doesn't take any power to keep it there.
Good luck
Good luck
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You have no idea how android works and deserve to have your nexus confiscated.
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System services should obviously not be messed with, but disabling autostarting services that you don't use is generally not a problem. It may take more power/time to start up apps that use those services (since they will have to be manually started), but if it's an app that you use infrequently it may be worth doing.
Intelligently tuning what services are allowed to autostart themselves is NOT the same as indiscriminately killing apps chasing after "free memory".
Personally, I wouldn't terminate services, but only modify which ones are allowed to automatically start up with the OS.
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if it's an app that you use infrequently it may be worth doing.
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Is it worth doing when Android does this automatically?
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EP2008 said:
Yes,I feel that having running SERVICES that I'm not using is a huge waste of memory and battery resources. Android is not smart in this regard.
For example, I use the amazon app store to check for free apps of the day ONCE a day. No need to have it run as a service all day, using up ram and CPU. Another example is pulse news reader. I want to go in the app, refresh the feeds, read them and exit, but the app remains running as a service for no reason. I also use a document scanner app which runs as a service when I'm not using it for no good reason. So, I kill the service.
To suggest that I'm wrong in doing this shows a lack of understanding of the issue at hand.
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you basically proved what he said was true
I agree with using "Autostarts", it's one of my fav apps and cuts down on startup time and certain apps like to be triggered for all kinds of rediculous things. Once again though I think it is counterproductive to use automated task killers. Watchdog will alert you of apps running away with your ram and battery, but does not just auto kill all random apps. As far as the Amazon AppStore, I agree that it can be very malicious with RAM if it wants to be even when just checking the FAOTD in the mornings, on my Atrix I would get constant alerts from Watchdog for Amazon AppStore. On my SGN however I have yet to recieve ANY alerts for ANY app yet from Watchdog, this leads me to think there is better optimization going on with ICS or the Nexus than I had with Gingerbread and Atrix.
Is there any reason not to use AutoStarts or WatchDog? They are not auto killing apps at all. And I am requesting a "real" technical explanation not just you opinion or a "think of it like.." story, those are useless to me and offer no explanation.
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Is it worth doing when Android does this automatically?
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Eh, usually there's not much benefit to be had - but preventing a service from auto starting when you might not use its app for the entire time Android is booted won't cause any problems. You're essentially "freezing" the service while still allowing it to be used on demand .
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I agree with using "Autostarts", it's one of my fav apps and cuts down on startup time and certain apps like to be triggered for all kinds of rediculous things. Once again though I think it is counterproductive to use automated task killers. Watchdog will alert you of apps running away with your ram and battery, but does not just auto kill all random apps. As far as the Amazon AppStore, I agree that it can be very malicious with RAM if it wants to be even when just checking the FAOTD in the mornings, on my Atrix I would get constant alerts from Watchdog for Amazon AppStore. On my SGN however I have yet to recieve ANY alerts for ANY app yet from Watchdog, this leads me to think there is better optimization going on with ICS or the Nexus than I had with Gingerbread and Atrix.
Is there any reason not to use AutoStarts or WatchDog? They are not auto killing apps at all. And I am requesting a "real" technical explanation not just you opinion or a "think of it like.." story, those are useless to me and offer no explanation.
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I relied upon autostart tuning and Watchdog on my N1, but haven't experienced a real need for either on the SGN. Not necessarily a technical response, but just my experience.
Wow, the ignorance on XDA is staggering.
A RUNNING SERVICE is not the same as a cached app or background process.
Why the heck would anyone want 3 or 4 running services in the background when they don't need them running?
Right now, I have the logmein service using 26mb, Amazon app store using 38mb, pulse taking up 43mb and I'm NOT using these apps. They are running as services and using ram, battery and cpu.
Continue to defend Android and all its flaws. The user doesn't always have to accept how poorly some things function.
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Right now, I have the logmein service using 26mb, Amazon app store using 38mb, pulse taking up 43mb and I'm NOT using these apps. They are running as services and using ram, battery and cpu.
Continue to defend Android and all its flaws. The user doesn't always have to accept how poorly some things function.
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Less an Android flaw and more related to how developers wrote those apps. Otherwise I think we are in agreement though.
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I relied upon autostart tuning and Watchdog on my N1, but haven't experienced a real need for either on the SGN.
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why?
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Have a feeling a lot of people have already heard about it, but for anyone who hasnt tried it, definitely get it.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.lbe.security.lite
Its an app manager that lets you control what apps have access to. You can block apps from accessing the internet, viewing your personal info and take away any permissions you dont want it to have.
A big benefit to this also is battery life will go up as a result of blocking apps which always connect to the internet to upload your data or steam ads to you. A lot of freeware apps also have way too many permissions and this lets you effectively block them.
Its the first thing I install everytime I use a new rom
I'm gonna check it out...thanks for posting it
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redspeed said:
Have a feeling a lot of people have already heard about it, but for anyone who hasnt tried it, definitely get it.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.lbe.security.lite
Its an app manager that lets you control what apps have access to. You can block apps from accessing the internet, viewing your personal info and take away any permissions you dont want it to have.
A big benefit to this also is battery life will go up as a result of blocking apps which always connect to the internet to upload your data or steam ads to you. A lot of freeware apps also have way too many permissions and this lets you effectively block them.
Its the first thing I install everytime I use a new rom
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I really appreciate you posting this and letting us know about this app! I don't think I would've come across it otherwise.
So I installed it and I'm just dumbfounded at all the stuff that some apps want access to....Why the f*** does Angry Birds: Space need to access my phone's GPS data?? There's an odd one!
Oh, by the way....a co-worker of mine with an iPhone smugly showed me that the functionality of LBE Privacy Guard app is actually built right into the iOS.
Not trying to turn this into an Android Vs Apple thread, but man, that kinda got under my skin.
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I really appreciate you posting this and letting us know about this app! I don't think I would've come across it otherwise.
So I installed it and I'm just dumbfounded at all the stuff that some apps want access to....Why the f*** does Angry Birds: Space need to access my phone's GPS data?? There's an odd one!
Oh, by the way....a co-worker of mine with an iPhone smugly showed me that the functionality of LBE Privacy Guard app is actually built right into the iOS.
Not trying to turn this into an Android Vs Apple thread, but man, that kinda got under my skin.
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If I recall, there's a developer option you can enable in CM7 that allows you to do just this. Just press the permission you want to block when installing the app or afterward. CM9 doesn't (to my knowledge) have this option yet, but I'm sure it will. Good day, iPhone users =).
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I really appreciate you posting this and letting us know about this app! I don't think I would've come across it otherwise.
So I installed it and I'm just dumbfounded at all the stuff that some apps want access to....Why the f*** does Angry Birds: Space need to access my phone's GPS data?? There's an odd one!
Oh, by the way....a co-worker of mine with an iPhone smugly showed me that the functionality of LBE Privacy Guard app is actually built right into the iOS.
Not trying to turn this into an Android Vs Apple thread, but man, that kinda got under my skin.
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Its scary how many apps want full control of your phone. Ive seen them wanting to read my contacts list and even control my messaging app. A lot of it has to do with data mining of their customers. All the info they collect from you is pretty valuable and the gps thing is pretty scary too. Theyre able to record your coordinates and report the info back to them. Not to mention its going to kill your battery too with them doing this.
Security apps I use
Droidwall - simple iptables for android
PDroid - like it better than Lbe, takes less resources but needs patch and waiting for ics support
Addons detector - shows which apps have "adware, spyware, etc."
Thanks William for mentioning PDroid. The app thread is here
PDroid gives message saying I needed to build somethingortheother first in order for it to work on my OG EPIC 4G .... LBE working great right outta the box though
Wow its come a long way I remember this when I first got rooted the guy mentioned using this... but its icon was red and the ui was bland they really uped it a notch =] completely forgot about this app thanks.. love it.
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how do I get it out of my notification bar?
It says "Allow Haypi KingdomobtainIMEI" but I can't swipe it away
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Nvm its the event logger I thought I needed to accept from there and it was being buggy LOL
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Nvm its the event logger I thought I needed to accept from there and it was being buggy LOL
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There is an option in the prefrences to turn off the notifications in the status bar.
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The other day I saw this in Titanium backup "AP Mobile" I looked it up but the only thing I saw was on the app store and it was an Associated Press app wich I don't have installed. Does anyone know what this is? And is it meant to make you think that it its something that its not?
Is it safe to remove?
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The other day I saw this in Titanium backup "AP Mobile" I looked it up but the only thing I saw was on the app store and it was an Associated Press app wich I don't have installed. Does anyone know what this is? And is it meant to make you think that it its something that its not?
Is it safe to remove?
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lol been wondering the same ... i removed it before even checking it
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The other day I saw this in Titanium backup "AP Mobile" I looked it up but the only thing I saw was on the app store and it was an Associated Press app wich I don't have installed. Does anyone know what this is? And is it meant to make you think that it its something that its not?
Is it safe to remove?
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AP mobile is like this media mobile site crap. Its safe to remove and get rid of once and for all!
its the associated press news app i believe. i also removed it immediately
1. Is there a list of crap we can safely remove?
2. Why can T-Mobile still monitor bandwidth usage on a rooted stock ROM after killing the monitoring apps / processes, but on some custom roms data usage cannot be monitored once the apps /processes are killed?
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2. Why can T-Mobile still monitor bandwidth usage on a rooted stock ROM after killing the monitoring apps / processes, but on some custom roms data usage cannot be monitored once the apps /processes are killed?
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I'm sure t-mobile monitors data usage on their end, not by collection information from processes on your phone... otherwise I think everyone would be using this mythical custom rom and the 200mb data plan!
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I'm sure t-mobile monitors data usage on their end, not by collection information from processes on your phone... otherwise I think everyone would be using this mythical custom rom and the 200mb data plan!
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No. I thought that too until I saw it in person. The guy who showed me was using the Darkside ICS rom for the T989 from the AT&T Skyrocket port. He killed a few processes and presto. No more data usage monitoring. And trust me, I have been a Unix system Admin for years. I was shocked.
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No. I thought that too until I saw it in person. The guy who showed me was using the Darkside ICS rom for the T989 from the AT&T Skyrocket port. He killed a few processes and presto. No more data usage monitoring. And trust me, I have been a Unix system Admin for years. I was shocked.
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Ask him what processes, I'm running that ROM...
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No. I thought that too until I saw it in person. The guy who showed me was using the Darkside ICS rom for the T989 from the AT&T Skyrocket port. He killed a few processes and presto. No more data usage monitoring. And trust me, I have been a Unix system Admin for years. I was shocked.
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please tell us what processes he killed!!!!!!!
Yeah I wanna know what he killed to. It would help a lot I work night shift at a gas station so I'm on my phone a lot
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Not exactly sure, it was some networking WNIC related apps. He did not even change the APN from the default T-mobile one like most people do to break the cap, and further, I dont think he change the directory permissions that most people do to eliminate capping.
The only other way I was aware of the cap being broken prior to this was via changing the APN to that of an MVNOs.
All I ask in exchange for this information is, if you try this, please report your findings and or results to me regardless of whether or not you want to do so publicly on the forum.
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Not exactly sure, it was some networking WNIC related apps. He did not even change the APN from the default T-mobile one like most people do to break the cap, and further, I dont think he change the directory permissions that most people do to eliminate capping.
The only other way I was aware of the cap being broken prior to this was via changing the APN to that of an MVNOs.
All I ask in exchange for this information is, if you try this, please report your findings and or results to me regardless of whether or not you want to do so publicly on the forum.
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TL;DR - He doesn't know because it can't be done. All data tracking is done on t-mobile's end.
Despite your encounter with that other persons phone it would be logical to think that their own towers should be able to track how much data is being extracted and to which assigned sim card and not getting the information from your phone which can be easily fondled with.
If it was easy as eliminating a few processes and tweaks, I'd say they better fire all those who implemented the data usage tracking system because they will be losing out on a massive revenue.
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usernotfound said:
TL;DR - He doesn't know because it can't be done. All data tracking is done on t-mobile's end.
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The three processes had to do with the Wireless NIC. All I can say is that once they were killed there was absolutely zero data usage reported. I have seen it done only on the Darkside rom. I have never seen it done on any other rom. It makes absolutely no sense to me why it works.
I agree with you guys that only an idiot would implement the data usage monitoring software on the Customer Provisioned Equipment, but I saw what I saw as crazy as it sounds.
My jaw literally dropped. I doubt it was fake unless I was somehow hoaxed, which would be very hard considering my background, but it is always a possibility.
The least we can do is look into it.
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The three processes had to do with the Wireless NIC. All I can say is that once they were killed there was absolutely zero data usage reported. I have seen it done only on the Darkside rom. I have never seen it done on any other rom. It makes absolutely no sense to me why it works.
I agree with you guys that only an idiot would implement the data usage monitoring software on the Customer Provisioned Equipment, but I saw what I saw as crazy as it sounds.
My jaw literally dropped. I doubt it was fake unless I was somehow hoaxed, which would be very hard considering my background, but it is always a possibility.
The least we can do is look into it.
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From the sounds of it, you can be the man to find out!!
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It week only be a matter of time. I'll figure it out eventually.
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It is actually a pretty decent news widget. Can't get the bloody thing to work on AOKP sadly.
The infamous developers project is up at http://www.infamousdevelopers.com
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Site Back up
The infamous website is back up.
http://www.infamousdevelopers.com
Anybody tried this app from the appstore?
Would like to know how true is this app.
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Anybody tried this app from the appstore?
Would like to know how true is this app.
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used it - froze up my phone , un installed
The reviews on play store are quite mixed, some claim doubling the battery. Others say worsen.
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Tried it wasn't impressed. I prefer green power to it.
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what this is app does is reduce bakground and hence will help you if you experience unexplained standby drains, once it's done learning your most used apps, it will control background activity sync
so yes you will notice great improvements if you you have lots of accounts draining your standby times
I currently am on day 6 using the app (actual use, its not including the 2 days of hiding in background watching me). Haven't really noticed a huge difference but I probably get another hour or so of battery life.
I think the trial was pretty lame. After it finally got the thing to start, I like how you can block apps from refreshing in the background. The list is not very big however and I am curious as to what other apps do the same thing but have more options.
All in all, I'd give it a thumb up as it is not hurting my phone's performance and a little battery savings
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I have used this snapdragon app, their is a thread about it somewhere, i removed it as it was giving me thousands wakelocks with the app, i used wakelock detector to see them.
John.
It just blocks apps from syncing if you use your phone auto sync on all the time so it's not like greenify which completely stops background process of a specific app until you open it. If you don't keep auto sync on then it's a waste of time and makes battery even worse.
It's a placebo, don't use it.
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No, it is not a placebo. Yes, it does block apps from syncing in the background. So what? You guys are missing the point.
They are not claiming to possess some magical powers that will double your phone's battery life. The main difference from this app and similar others in the market, is their learning algorithm. It learns from "watching" you use your phone for a couple of days and then controls what is going on in the background to help you save battery without you doing much on your end. It's actually a pretty genius idea. I'm trying it out for the first-time (thanks OP for mentioning this app) and will post back with my results later this week. I'm not expecting wonders, but maybe I'll learn a thing or two about my daily use that I might be able to incorporate into my setups.
I would really appreciate you get back to use with your results, i pulled the plug after a couple of hours because of the high number of wakelocks.
John.
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No, it is not a placebo. Yes, it does block apps from syncing in the background. So what? You guys are missing the point.
They are not claiming to possess some magical powers that will double your phone's battery life. The main difference from this app and similar others in the market, is their learning algorithm. It learns from "watching" you use your phone for a couple of days and then controls what is going on in the background to help you save battery without you doing much on your end. It's actually a pretty genius idea. I'm trying it out for the first-time (thanks OP for mentioning this app) and will post back with my results later this week. I'm not expecting wonders, but maybe I'll learn a thing or two about my daily use that I might be able to incorporate into my setups.
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No problem. Honestly, people freak out too much about wakelocks. You can have 50 simple events waking your device that will consume 10% of a single wakelock event from another app. Google's new play services that have been announced at I/O are wakelock-fiends, but surprisingly, their effect on battery life is very minimal.
Basically, it's about quality and not quantity of the wakelock that matters.
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No problem. Honestly, people freak out too much about wakelocks. You can have 50 simple events waking your device that will consume 10% of a single wakelock event from another app. Google's new play services that have been announced at I/O are wakelock-fiends, but surprisingly, their effect on battery life is very minimal.
Basically, it's about quality and not quantity of the wakelock that matters.
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Indeed, 1500 wakelocks but less than two minutes awake time.
It doesn't work. plain.and.simple.
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A rep from HTC told me the battery Guru was bad and would mess up the phone
I was wondering if itll affect instant messaging app, like whatsapp.
Will I still receive the messages instantly or battery guru will refresh my whatsapp periodically based on my usage?
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installed it. doesn't work. after a few weeks, installed it again, still doesn't work. it seems to just kill running apps. not great if you use whatsapp or viber, you won't be receiving any messages with the battery guru on.
I'm using this but I don't feel that the battery is very good anyway. Is this app working just like greenify?
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