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http://911sniper.blog.163.com/blog/static/142900881201131424811433/
Meh, posted in the wrong section..sorry guys
hydrogenman said:
http://911sniper.blog.163.com/blog/static/142900881201131424811433/
Meh, posted in the wrong section..sorry guys
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Too bad.... No kernel source, Pure Sense vs Expresso, GB vs Froyo, different camera libraries (8 mega vs 5 mega, with additional processing for instant on)... Who ever ports this will be just like all the other crappy ports of Sense 2.1 we have all over the forums... you will have weird bugs, weird crashes, things don't work right etc etc... Once a real kernel source is released, then we can talk about a real port....
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Too bad.... No kernel source, Pure Sense vs Expresso, GB vs Froyo, different camera libraries (8 mega vs 5 mega, with additional processing for instant on)... Who ever ports this will be just like all the other crappy ports of Sense 2.1 we have all over the forums... you will have weird bugs, weird crashes, things don't work right etc etc... Once a real kernel source is released, then we can talk about a real port....
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Ya except this one will include the latest Sense 3.0 as opposed to the Sense 2.1 rom/ports that are out, correct? I just love the new lockscreen included in 3.0!
smatthew45 said:
Ya except this one will include the latest Sense 3.0 as opposed to the Sense 2.1 rom/ports that are out, correct? I just love the new lockscreen included in 3.0!
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correct it is new 3.0, plus w/o kernel source, keep in mind that this ROM is designed for dual-core MSM8260 chipset, so im sure itll be a little fun to play with and try and get working
I've had no problems at all with the sense 2.1 port I'm running
a few things don't work right, but they're pretty minor for most people
So now that there is a dump what else is needed for a port
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!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Lets get this going
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JOMOID said:
So now that there is a dump what else is needed for a port
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Kernel source.
ooooooo option where are u my guy!!! u gotta get in here and start cookin lol.
mrpanic7 said:
correct it is new 3.0, plus w/o kernel source, keep in mind that this ROM is designed for dual-core MSM8260 chipset, so im sure itll be a little fun to play with and try and get working
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I remember they said the same thing about the original sense running on the G1/MT3G, but. It did, although it was more of a space issue than chip issue. Besides Gingerbread doesn't even support dual core, a couple games might, but the OS itself doesn't. That won't happen until ice cream.
Of course without the kernel source there are gonna be bugs. Cams won't work, funny wifi and Bluetooth. The usual stuff. But it will be fun to play with.
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Good news guys my brother rafyvitto has htc sensation port from DHD booting on his mt4g =]
siulmagic said:
Good news guys my brother rafyvitto has htc sensation port from DHD booting on his mt4g =]
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It boots, but its still needs A LOT of work to be useable. He can do it though. I have faith.
"You can do it" LOL
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with all the new gingersense stuff coming out is anyone working on a kernal that is OC's cause the kingdom rom kinda needs it
I'm sure people are working on it... as always when something comes out, the devs here grab it and do what they want with it.. seems like a pretty rhetorical question..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=8903432&postcount=4
werdna87 said:
with all the new gingersense stuff coming out is anyone working on a kernal that is OC's cause the kingdom rom kinda needs it
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sense 3.0 is very nice. just a little slow for me. id really just like the lockscreen from 3.0 on a 2.0 rom
sruel3216 said:
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sense 3.0 is very nice. just a little slow for me. id really just like the lockscreen from 3.0 on a 2.0 rom
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i totally agree but i have noticed even a little OC on some roms makes a ton of difference on their performance
You need source code to compile a custom kernel.
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wdfowty said:
You need source code to compile a custom kernel.
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couldn't we get that from the leak?
werdna87 said:
couldn't we get that from the leak?
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A leak doesn't come with ssource code lol.
GRZLA said:
A leak doesn't come with ssource code lol.
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oh... i know nothing about this but how did we get the source code for the current kernels?
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oh... i know nothing about this but how did we get the source code for the current kernels?
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HTC will release source after gingersense becomes an OTA, but its up to them when they want to post it really.
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HTC will release source after gingersense becomes an OTA, but its up to them when they want to post it really.
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so then we are going to be stuck with crappy battery life for a while then and slow sense 3.0 ports... NICE
werdna87 said:
so then we are going to be stuck with crappy battery life for a while then and slow sense 3.0 ports... NICE
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Just be grateful you even have a gingersense 3.0 port to play with. Download Juice Defender if you're really that worried.
I don't think 3.0 needs overclock works fine for me very snappy if u have the patience to let it fully load
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I'm not sure what a KERNAL is. Sounds similar to a kernel Kidding . But kernels will be released over time. You don't necessarily need the source for a kernel, because you can look back to the OG Droid's FroYo leaks had hacked together kernels without any source and it was being overclocked.
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I'm not sure what a KERNAL is. Sounds similar to a kernel Kidding . But kernels will be released over time. You don't necessarily need the source for a kernel, because you can look back to the OG Droid's FroYo leaks had hacked together kernels without any source and it was being overclocked.
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haha ik i kinda fail at spelling... and i am REALLY happy with the Gingersense 3.0 but i do kinda need battery life also and have found juice defender hasn't done that much
Matt4542 said:
I'm not sure what a KERNAL is. Sounds similar to a kernel Kidding . But kernels will be released over time. You don't necessarily need the source for a kernel, because you can look back to the OG Droid's FroYo leaks had hacked together kernels without any source and it was being overclocked.
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It's probably possible to overclock with a module, like what the Droid X/2 are using. I'm no kernel hacker though, just a lowly porter
There is a tradeoff, however. If you want OC, the battery life will suffer even more than stock.
Best bet is to use SetCPU to set some profiles.
Great conversation but this thread is in the way wrong category. I really wish I was a mod...
wildstang83 said:
Great conversation but this thread is in the way wrong category. I really wish I was a mod...
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woops... sorry about that im kinda new to XDA... i thought it might have to do with development cause it has to do with kernels? idk sorry
No harm intended. Your op just came of as a question which should be in the questions section. Like I said, great topic though.
yah but it was a development related questions so...
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yah but it was a development related questions so...
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But still a question. Read the link posted on the first page, and the stickies at the top of this forum.
What is an aosp kernel? How is it different from the kernels we have like Genocide or even stock? What is different between CM7's kernel and our EF02 kernel?
ugothakd said:
What is an aosp kernel? How is it different from the kernels we have like Genocide or even stock? What is different between CM7's kernel and our EF02 kernel?
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Asop Colonel?.......
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Roughly, it's the Nexus kernel ported to the Epic. Though, I believe they need the GB source for Epic to figure out what to alter to make it work properly. The other option is to build it from the ground up, which they're also attempting.
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What is an aosp kernel? How is it different from the kernels we have like Genocide or even stock? What is different between CM7's kernel and our EF02 kernel?
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Aosp means android open source project. An aosp kernel, or rom, is one built from googles source, not samsungs.. and lacks proprietary drivers and/or software...
Cm7 is basicaly an aosp kernel, but with attempts to boot on epic.. it also includes changes made by cyanogenmod team
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So its a kernel from android source, from google. But doesn't have drivers that samsung's source has? Why aren't samsung's sources merged/included/whatever into google's source?
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So its a kernel from android source, from google. But doesn't have drivers that samsung's source has? Why aren't samsung's sources merged/included/whatever into google's source?
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Htc and moto would be mad at google for bricking their customers phone.
They are merged when Samsung releases its version.
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So its a kernel from android source, from google. But doesn't have drivers that samsung's source has? Why aren't samsung's sources merged/included/whatever into google's source?
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Depending on what you meant, the would be. Ultimately they COULD start over if they wanted to, I imagine, but they don't. It's google's kernel + how to actually work this specific hardware. People are waiting for the "work this specific hardware" changes, not really the google part.
Mainly they're waiting because it's not worth investing 2 months into figuring out something that's going to be handed to you in 2 months.
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Mainly they're waiting because it's not worth investing 2 months into figuring out something that's going to be handed to you in 2 months.
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Now I did search as much as possible on the interwebs, like tiamat's blog, xda, miui forums etc. So I guess I'll go ahead and ask this sorta noob question eek: oh no he didn't ).
Why are there no 3.0 kernels and what would be the advantage of them? On a tangent, I note that even the transformer prime has no 3.0 kernel...
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What in the name of balls is a 3.0 kernel?
Amphibliam said:
What in the name of balls is a 3.0 kernel?
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Linux kernel version 3.x. As in we are currently using kernel version 2.6.35.x.. Galaxy nexus has 3.08 kernel or something.
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We're currently using modified gingerbread kernels (the 2.6 ones i think?) because we havent received kernel source from HTC yet
This phone is slated for an ICS update, once we get that and kernel source i'm pretty sure a 3.0 kernel will follow
It's because we don't have an official update yet. That's what all the ICS roms are pretty much waiting for - an offical ICS kernel from HTC.
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It's because we don't have an official update yet. That's what all the ICS roms are pretty much waiting for - an offical ICS kernel from HTC.
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Okay. So as I understand the kernel will have several proprietary modules and therefore we can't compile our own 3.0 kernel yet? As it may cause several incompatibilities, am I right?
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Okay. So as I understand the kernel will have several proprietary modules and therefore we can't compile our own 3.0 kernel yet? As it may cause several incompatibilities, am I right?
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No, we just can't compile one because we don't have source.
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tylerlawhon said:
No, we just can't compile one because we don't have source.
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I am confused. The linux kernel is open source. So the Source code for the 3.0 kernel is available. So, what do you mean by "we don't have source"? Are you referring to any drivers whose modules we may not have as they are proprietary? Or something else?
Anyway, I just realized thanks to this article that the 3.0 kernel is no big deal and has no new, "awesome" features and is not a major jump like the GB to ICS, or gnome 2 to gnome 3, or the KDE 3 to KDE 4 jump... Just a new numbering scheme. So, may be the kernel we have now is more than enough to run ICS (except for the camera glitch though...)
Thanks for the responses guys!
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I am confused. The linux kernel is open source. So the Source code for the 3.0 kernel is available. So, what do you mean by "we don't have source"? Are you referring to any drivers whose modules we may not have as they are proprietary? Or something else?
Anyway, I just realized thanks to this article that the 3.0 kernel is no big deal and has no new, "awesome" features and is not a major jump like the GB to ICS, or gnome 2 to gnome 3, or the KDE 3 to KDE 4 jump... Just a new numbering scheme. So, may be the kernel we have now is more than enough to run ICS (except for the camera glitch though...)
Thanks for the responses guys!
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The Linux kernel is, yes. However, a kernel is very device specific. So, without having one from an OTA or better yet, HTC releasing kernel source code for this device specifically, we can't make any. So far (as stated before), all our ics ROMs are using hacked up gingerbread kernels (which is an incredible feat in itself). We have basic kernel source code, sure, but what we're lacking is the proprietary drivers, libs, and other stuff that makes this device run.
Hope this all made sense.
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Each kernel is device specific with the oem s specific changes....it is possible to build one without the.exact source...but you would need some similar source for reference like teamhacksung using the nexus s as a base for sgs phones
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The Linux kernel is, yes. However, a kernel is very device specific. So, without having one from an OTA or better yet, HTC releasing kernel source code for this device specifically, we can't make any. So far (as stated before), all our ics ROMs are using hacked up gingerbread kernels (which is an incredible feat in itself). We have basic kernel source code, sure, but what we're lacking is the proprietary drivers, libs, and other stuff that makes this device run.
Hope this all made sense.
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Yes, this helps me understand it better. Anyway, I'm not really waiting for the 3.0 kernel anymore as I learned it was just a renumbering scheme! I was expecting I could launch a space shuttle with it, like I can drive my car supersonic with ICS (hehehe..) But it apparently has just the usual dose of bug fixes compared to our current kernel.
Thanks y'all!
Will The Droid Inc Ever Get a 3.0.X.X. Kernel?
Officially? Highly doubtful. That doesn't stop someone from porting it, though.
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Officially? Highly doubtful. That doesn't stop someone from porting it, though.
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Official Is Over rated xDD.
I'm talking about a dev compiling a 3.0.X Kernel, it'll make everything else run smoother.
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Official Is Over rated xDD.
I'm talking about a dev compiling a 3.0.X Kernel, it'll make everything else run smoother.
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It wouldn't be worth the work. I have been told by a few kernel devs that it would create more problems.
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Albinoman said:
It wouldn't be worth the work. I have been told by a few kernel devs that it would create more problems.
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The Droid 3 has kexec 3.0.8 Kernel.
We have an unlocked boot loader with 2.6.x.x. its kinda sad.
Then again this phone is 2 years old. But i just don't want to see this little device die.
A hybrid 2.6.38/3.0.x kernel might be possible, although it still wouldn't be a pure 3.0.x kernel. One of the problems is that we don't have 3.0.x kernel drivers for the HTC incredible.
jellybellys said:
A hybrid 2.6.38/3.0.x kernel might be possible, although it still wouldn't be a pure 3.0.x kernel. One of the problems is that we don't have 3.0.x kernel drivers for the HTC incredible.
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Wouldn't that help performance in ics roms and higher?
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Wouldn't that help performance in ics roms and higher?
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Possibly. The jellybean interactive governor could improve performance with a small drop in battery life or you could just use the performance governor to help smooth things out. Newer version does not always mean better or faster especially with old devices.
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