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Question to anyone I called sprint and asked about the Lte roll out dates of course there is not much of a schedule to it if any but they said we have Lte capable devices out so I said if I purchase a lte capable device will I be without 4g until lte reaches my area they said no the lte devices can run wimax and lte so if that is the case why can't our epic touch run lte when it becomes available in our area.I think they are full of sh!t and just saying that to get us to buy a new lte phone.Unless the new phones will have hardware in them that allows them to run to different types of technology
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I guess it's possible that new phones could have hardware that works with LTE and WiMax, but I can't confirm this. I agree that the person you spoke with could be feeding you BS. It's been my experience that Sprint is a very dysfunctional company. I wouldn't trust anything they say that's not in writing!
As far as the E4GT being able to use LTE, I think it's lacking the hardware to do so. Maybe someone with more knowledge on LTE can comment.
There is no phone with wimax and lte .....none ....there is a pc card that will have both but no phone will be able to get wimax and lte ....they are 2 different radios
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Fact is the Epic 4G Touch, can not and will not run on LTE - EVER. The Exynos processor is not LTE compatible, therefor the Skyrocket variants both have Snapdragons in them.
As for other phones, it would be theoretically possible to build a phone with both radios but that would be dumb, because space in the phone is tight to begin with, plus it would suck on the batter twice as much. I believe there is a rumor that the Photon may have both in it, but I really doubt it, and I also really doubt that any new LTE phones would have "old" WiMax radios built into them.
Sprint told me that our epic 4g touch will work on lte.... I know this not to be true..... Just remember that those wonderful customer service reps do not spend the time researching our devices like we do... So they are very mis informed
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Fact is the Epic 4G Touch, can not and will not run on LTE - EVER. The Exynos processor is not LTE compatible, therefor the Skyrocket variants both have Snapdragons in them.
As for other phones, it would be theoretically possible to build a phone with both radios but that would be dumb, because space in the phone is tight to begin with, plus it would suck on the batter twice as much. I believe there is a rumor that the Photon may have both in it, but I really doubt it, and I also really doubt that any new LTE phones would have "old" WiMax radios built into them.
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http://www.gottabemobile.com/2012/04/24/motorola-photon-q-lte-rumored-to-come-to-sprint-this-year/
Looks like there will be a new Photon that will have lte capability. The present one probably does not.
jonapunk said:
Sprint told me that our epic 4g touch will work on lte.... I know this not to be true..... Just remember that those wonderful customer service reps do not spend the time researching our devices like we do... So they are very mis informed
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I know they talk to you like your dumb I called in to sprint about another issue and I'm due for an upgrade do they were telling me about the new lte phones
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There is no phone with wimax and lte .....none ....there is a pc card that will have both but no phone will be able to get wimax and lte ....they are 2 different radios
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I pretty much knew that but hey they want us to sign for 2 more years
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It's pretty dumb that they got three different radios going at the same time they need to have more LTE coverage before they made the phone and just start closing WiMAX customers
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There is ONE Sprint device that can run EV-DO, LTE, and WiMax, and that is their upcoming hotspot. That's it. I was a technician at Sprint, and to sum it up like the other guys said, it is impossible for WiMax devices to pick up LTE, and also even if you implemented an LTE modem into the Epic 4G Touch, Exynos wouldn't work with it. Not even the new generation of Exynos processors does LTE, so prepare to be disappointed when the Sprint S3 has a Snapdragon S4 (which isn't bad). I think this is gonna be like OG Evo vs OG Epic, where the Evo 4G LTE is gonna win.
Me personally? I just got my Galaxy Nexus (Sprint version of course). Trying development vs power this time. I don't like the route HTC is going with bootloader unlocks that aren't real unlocks. Plus I only paid $400 for this baby
Once LTE service his your area, and BTW, San Antonio, Dallas, and Houston are all in the process now of roll out, you will still have service with 4G, but no you will not get LTE service, the performance difference is noticeable, but not enough to run out and buy a new phone over. Those who still have dinosaurs that do not have 4G capability, as well as crapPhone owners well lose service as 3G is phased out, hence the coming crapPhone 5 which is an LTE phone. E4GT well not be LTE compatible, however GS3 IS an LTE phone with the superior quad core Exynos processor that has been fixed to support LTE and benchmarked higher than any other phone currently available or set for release soon. So, if you are thinking of upgrading to be LTE ready when it happens, research your phone and it's stats, in the end, only you can decide which phone is best for you and your needs, study the processors for phones you are considering, check benchmark scores, and ask people you see with those phones their opinion...in the end your choice can't be wrong if it meets your needs
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There is ONE Sprint device that can run EV-DO, LTE, and WiMax, and that is their upcoming hotspot. That's it. I was a technician at Sprint, and to sum it up like the other guys said, it is impossible for WiMax devices to pick up LTE, and also even if you implemented an LTE modem into the Epic 4G Touch, Exynos wouldn't work with it. Not even the new generation of Exynos processors does LTE, so prepare to be disappointed when the Sprint S3 has a Snapdragon S4 (which isn't bad). I think this is gonna be like OG Evo vs OG Epic, where the Evo 4G LTE is gonna win.
Me personally? I just got my Galaxy Nexus (Sprint version of course). Trying development vs power this time. I don't like the route HTC is going with bootloader unlocks that aren't real unlocks. Plus I only paid $400 for this baby
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Galaxy Nexus is a decent phone. The coming hotspot is getting horrible reviews about constant LOS problems, and the US gs3, Sprint or otherwise, will have the Exynos processors, again, a little research and digging goes a long way....Snapdragon 4 is a decent processor, agreed, and as a former OG EVO owner, I believe that once again just as OG EVO vs OG EPIC, Samsung and the GS3 will prove to be the superior device, just in case though
I am getting my EVO 4G lte on release day, and adding a third line to get the Blue GS3, winner stays with me, and loser goes to some lucky bidder on EBay, be watching for an EVO 4G LTE listed by same screen name, current benchmarks on both phones show result, but I wanna test on my own. The added line will get a new whichever phone wins, and my son is super excited about his new GS3 as well...just sayin
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EDIT: the new generation of Exynos processors is currently supporting LTE, that issue was fixed, announced and proven at the phones debut in London. They'll be doing another "launch" in NYC next week, and have already confirmed Exynos in every carriers version of GS3, not gonna repeat issues seen with GS2 because carriers want to mod the device to make it their own, Samsung clearly stated..."all carriers will release phone on same day, as shipped from Samsung Corp. with only addition of carrier specific applications allowed....any carriers not agreed to release with no hardware modifications will not receive the phone as well as any carrier not prepared to offer phone on date set forth in contracts between carrier and Samsung Corp." It's about time a manufacturer put Sprint AND VERIZON in their place!
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Galaxy Nexus is a decent phone. The coming hotspot is getting horrible reviews about constant LOS problems, and the US gs3, Sprint or otherwise, will have the Exynos processors, again, a little research and digging goes a long way....Snapdragon 4 is a decent processor, agreed, and as a former OG EVO owner, I believe that once again just as OG EVO vs OG EPIC, Samsung and the GS3 will prove to be the superior device, just in case though
I am getting my EVO 4G lte on release day, and adding a third line to get the Blue GS3, winner stays with me, and loser goes to some lucky bidder on EBay, be watching for an EVO 4G LTE listed by same screen name, current benchmarks on both phones show result, but I wanna test on my own. The added line will get a new whichever phone wins, and my son is super excited about his new GS3 as well...just sayin
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EDIT: the new generation of Exynos processors is currently supporting LTE, that issue was fixed, announced and proven at the phones debut in London. They'll be doing another "launch" in NYC next week, and have already confirmed Exynos in every carriers version of GS3, not gonna repeat issues seen with GS2 because carriers want to mod the device to make it their own, Samsung clearly stated..."all carriers will release phone on same day, as shipped from Samsung Corp. with only addition of carrier specific applications allowed....any carriers not agreed to release with no hardware modifications will not receive the phone as well as any carrier not prepared to offer phone on date set forth in contracts between carrier and Samsung Corp." It's about time a manufacturer put Sprint AND VERIZON in their place!
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Actually, aside from being CDMA, the the Sprint version was the best. I has a 4.5 inch screen and notification light.
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"all carriers will release phone on same day, as shipped from Samsung Corp. with only addition of carrier specific applications allowed....any carriers not agreed to release with no hardware modifications will not receive the phone as well as any carrier not prepared to offer phone on date set forth in contracts between carrier and Samsung Corp." It's about time a manufacturer put Sprint AND VERIZON in their place!
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And ATT, and Tmobile. I will go ahead and say I don't think Verizon will get the S3.
I'm interested to see how long it takes HTC to pull that same weight with carriers.
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Galaxy Nexus is a decent phone. The coming hotspot is getting horrible reviews about constant LOS problems, and the US gs3, Sprint or otherwise, will have the Exynos processors, again, a little research and digging goes a long way....Snapdragon 4 is a decent processor, agreed, and as a former OG EVO owner, I believe that once again just as OG EVO vs OG EPIC, Samsung and the GS3 will prove to be the superior device, just in case though
I am getting my EVO 4G lte on release day, and adding a third line to get the Blue GS3, winner stays with me, and loser goes to some lucky bidder on EBay, be watching for an EVO 4G LTE listed by same screen name, current benchmarks on both phones show result, but I wanna test on my own. The added line will get a new whichever phone wins, and my son is super excited about his new GS3 as well...just sayin
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EDIT: the new generation of Exynos processors is currently supporting LTE, that issue was fixed, announced and proven at the phones debut in London. They'll be doing another "launch" in NYC next week, and have already confirmed Exynos in every carriers version of GS3, not gonna repeat issues seen with GS2 because carriers want to mod the device to make it their own, Samsung clearly stated..."all carriers will release phone on same day, as shipped from Samsung Corp. with only addition of carrier specific applications allowed....any carriers not agreed to release with no hardware modifications will not receive the phone as well as any carrier not prepared to offer phone on date set forth in contracts between carrier and Samsung Corp." It's about time a manufacturer put Sprint AND VERIZON in their place!
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I agree 100% thanks for this detailed reply
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Galaxy Nexus is a decent phone. The coming hotspot is getting horrible reviews about constant LOS problems, and the US gs3, Sprint or otherwise, will have the Exynos processors, again, a little research and digging goes a long way....Snapdragon 4 is a decent processor, agreed, and as a former OG EVO owner, I believe that once again just as OG EVO vs OG EPIC, Samsung and the GS3 will prove to be the superior device, just in case though
I am getting my EVO 4G lte on release day, and adding a third line to get the Blue GS3, winner stays with me, and loser goes to some lucky bidder on EBay, be watching for an EVO 4G LTE listed by same screen name, current benchmarks on both phones show result, but I wanna test on my own. The added line will get a new whichever phone wins, and my son is super excited about his new GS3 as well...just sayin
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EDIT: the new generation of Exynos processors is currently supporting LTE, that issue was fixed, announced and proven at the phones debut in London. They'll be doing another "launch" in NYC next week, and have already confirmed Exynos in every carriers version of GS3, not gonna repeat issues seen with GS2 because carriers want to mod the device to make it their own, Samsung clearly stated..."all carriers will release phone on same day, as shipped from Samsung Corp. with only addition of carrier specific applications allowed....any carriers not agreed to release with no hardware modifications will not receive the phone as well as any carrier not prepared to offer phone on date set forth in contracts between carrier and Samsung Corp." It's about time a manufacturer put Sprint AND VERIZON in their place!
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Do you have a source? I'm not trying to call you out or anything, I would just like to read about it some.
Pretty sure our GS3 will get the s4 dual core chip as Verizon's is has already been benchmarked with the qualcomm chip. Exynos quad is only compatible with Korea's lte atm. The LG eclipse beast will have a quad core s4 with 2gb of ram in quarter 4. Research peoples.
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Pretty sure our GS3 will get the s4 dual core chip as Verizon's is has already been benchmarked with the qualcomm chip. Exynos quad is only compatible with Korea's lte atm. The LG eclipse beast will have a quad core s4 with 2gb of ram in quarter 4. Research peoples.
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I thought that too but then I read that Canada's networks are getting the Quad Exynos. Samsung even demonstrated it supposedly.
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I thought that too but then I read that Canada's networks are getting the Quad Exynos. Samsung even demonstrated it supposedly.
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http://www.droid-life.com/2012/05/1...n-benchmark-looks-again-like-a-snapdragon-s4/
Okay I did find this..
http://www.androidauthority.com/samsung-galaxy-s3-canada-roundup-probable-price-availability-and-release-dates-82184/
but we probably won't be that lucky.
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Product F(RED) said:
Actually, aside from being CDMA, the the Sprint version was the best. I has a 4.5 inch screen and notification light.
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I the S3 is for me.
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Well im stuck on deciding which one to get. i already know the 3g/4g data wont work on the international but it will by the end of this year because t-mo is refarming. Everything is better about the international (processor, gpu, audio, support) except for the 1 gb extra ram on the t-mo version. So my question is should i buy the international one and use edge speed until t mobile refarms or play it safe and just get the t-mo?
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Well im stuck on deciding which one to get. i already know the 3g/4g data wont work on the international but it will by the end of this year because t-mo is refarming. Everything is better about the international (processor, gpu, audio, support) except for the 1 gb extra ram on the t-mo version. So my question is should i buy the international one and use edge speed until t mobile refarms or play it safe and just get the t-mo?
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i9300 is better. but if you're with tmobile, why not just get t999? its cheaper. though i personally like i9300. its snappy
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i9300 is better. but if you're with tmobile, why not just get t999? its cheaper. though i personally like i9300. its snappy
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the specs on the international are better and is more future-proof with the quad-core and more development support. is it too risky to buy the international version and wait for t-mobiles refarming?
Will T-Mo finish refarming any time soon?
Side question, does anybody know the time frame of T-Mo getting LTE?
I am going in the morning and getting the international. And I am actually on straight talk. But ehen tmo gets data so will I. I think getting the quad core when uts already august it will only be a few months then yoy will be stuck wanting to upgrade again
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agentdude said:
Well im stuck on deciding which one to get. i already know the 3g/4g data wont work on the international but it will by the end of this year because t-mo is refarming. Everything is better about the international (processor, gpu, audio, support) except for the 1 gb extra ram on the t-mo version. So my question is should i buy the international one and use edge speed until t mobile refarms or play it safe and just get the t-mo?
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if your with t mobile i would just get the sgh t999... can save you headaches later on.
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Will T-Mo finish refarming any time soon?
Side question, does anybody know the time frame of T-Mo getting LTE?
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T-Mo said by the end of 2012 and they said they will start LTE in 2013
Is there any evidence that the international version would work on T-Mobile's LTE? AT&T and Verizon already have LTE, yet they still use the S4 variant. Maybe the bands aren't the same?
I don't know why you all are talking about LTE, the INTL version doesn't support LTE period. HSPA+ 21 is all it supports and that is on AT&T network. If I were you, I would get the TMO version even if the quad core supported TMO's 4G, I feel the Snapdragon S4 in the T999 is on par or better than the quad core in the International GS3 mainly because the S4 chip is built off the A15 architecture while the quad is A9. I've held them both for 30 minutes because I was in the same predicament you are in and I chose T-Mobile's version because it felt snappier. You can search YouTube as well, there are plenty YouTube videos on on this very subject comparing the two phones. There mostly no difference in speed, and that should tell you a lot about the chip in this phone. If you're a hardcore user, this chip can handle any and all task you and the Play Store can through at it and some, not only because of the awesome S4 chip, but because the 2GB of RAM. This phone is ridiculous. You will love either one but for you and the Network you are on, go with the T-mobile Galaxy S3. That's my advice, take it or leave it.
I work for tmobile, But opted for sprint. as far as the notes in our internal files show. theres only a tentative Q4 timeframe for MAJOR cities. the only city that seems to be getting any love is SF with tmobile investing 4 billion dollars into the network buying up spectrum just so they have the chance to grab up more iphone users. some of you very well may be out of luck for quite a while. tmobile is content to let you roam until you hit certain limits then theyll terminate you under ERR(Extreme Roaming) great thing about that is it saves you an early 200 dollar term fee.
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I work for tmobile, But opted for sprint. as far as the notes in our internal files show. theres only a tentative Q4 timeframe for MAJOR cities. the only city that seems to be getting any love is SF with tmobile investing 4 billion dollars into the network buying up spectrum just so they have the chance to grab up more iphone users. some of you very well may be out of luck for quite a while. tmobile is content to let you roam until you hit certain limits then theyll terminate you under ERR(Extreme Roaming) great thing about that is it saves you an early 200 dollar term fee.
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Seems to me all T-Mobile cares about is the iPhone, all their ads and I mean ALL OF THEM! Include the iPhone. So annoying. They advertise the iPhone more than their own devices.
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I don't know why you all are talking about LTE, the INTL version doesn't support LTE period. HSPA+ 21 is all it supports and that is on AT&T network. If I were you, I would get the TMO version even if the quad core supported TMO's 4G, I feel the Snapdragon S4 in the T999 is on par or better than the quad core in the International GS3 mainly because the S4 chip is built off the A15 architecture while the quad is A9. I've held them both for 30 minutes because I was in the same predicament you are in and I chose T-Mobile's version because it felt snappier. You can search YouTube as well, there are plenty YouTube videos on on this very subject comparing the two phones. There mostly no difference in speed, and that should tell you a lot about the chip in this phone. If you're a hardcore user, this chip can handle any and all task you and the Play Store can through at it and some, not only because of the awesome S4 chip, but because the 2GB of RAM. This phone is ridiculous. You will love either one but for you and the Network you are on, go with the T-mobile Galaxy S3. That's my advice, take it or leave it.
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wow that was a great answer. Thank you very much this just made up my mind
To be honest with you, tmobile is really interested in the iphone, they dont want to invest the cash in tmobile is in a really unfortunate position and its all due to the piss poor decisions they are making. the Tmobile GS3 is better than the internaional one imo and loads better than the iphone but the internal document i read, actually advocated telling the users they were investing 4 billion into one specific city receiving iphone capabilities even though 1/4 of our call volume is "theres no service in my area" honestly if tmobiles sim subsidy unlocking practices werent so much better than At&ts i wouldnt even view them as a viable option =/
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I work for tmobile, But opted for sprint. as far as the notes in our internal files show. theres only a tentative Q4 timeframe for MAJOR cities. the only city that seems to be getting any love is SF with tmobile investing 4 billion dollars into the network buying up spectrum just so they have the chance to grab up more iphone users. some of you very well may be out of luck for quite a while. tmobile is content to let you roam until you hit certain limits then theyll terminate you under ERR(Extreme Roaming) great thing about that is it saves you an early 200 dollar term fee.
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WOW, I just left Sprint after 12 yrs and my Evo LTE for the TMO GS3. I get 15% discount on both but TMO is $40 cheaper per month for 3 lines with 5,2,2 data unlimted min and 500min for 3rd line. Sprint has crept up by $39 on my 3 lines over the last 2yrs with data increase and ins increase. I got tired of the below 1mbps 3G speeds and the nonexistent LTE while living in one of the LTE launch cities. Loving my cheaper plan with HSPA+ getting double digit dl speeds.
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i personal got the t-mobile s3 t-999 and i like its fast and responsive no real issues i noticed
IRIE4IPIER has some good advice, and is right on. If you do opt for the international version, be prepared for a very slow network experience on T-Mobile. Also, about the quad-core vs dual-core thing. I would definitely opt for the 2GB RAM dual-core over the 1GB RAM quad-core on these phones. The S4 CPU in the dual-core version is no slouch, and it is A15-ish. The Exynos, of course, is great, but there is nothing that you can do on the international version (assuming you are in the U.S. and not continuously running AnTuTu benchmarks) that you cannot do on the T-Mobile version. Conversely, there are many things that you will not be able to do on the international version.
Edit: Ok, seems as though you made your decision. Congrats.
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wow that was a great answer. Thank you very much this just made up my mind
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you were trying to base your choice on pure speculation, as well. as of now, there is no actual, tangible release date for a network upgrade. if you bought the international version, you'd be stuck with slow mobile speeds, for what reason? because of 2 more CPUs and less ram?
good thing you made the right choice :good:
Ok, thread's been sitting but let me 2c it.
The current t-mobile network performance on the quad s3 is astoundingly bad, hopefully once they implement it will be better. Even though I knew this, I still opted for the int version because of the quad core. I consistently max out processors, so was looking for the quad and was extremely disappointed that we got the dumbed-down version in the states. Used to that though (lower performance imports, electronics, no diesels, etc, etc)
Could the quad core have worked with our current network? Of course, t-mobile made the requisite radio hardware changes for the upcoming network. Anyway, the other concern was the lack of an additional gig of ram. The solution for this problem is enabling linux-style swap on the kernel. On the former Galaxy S kernels, developers shied away from this citing it did not really work. This always frustrated me, as it does work and that's why linux uses it. The question is if it's effective on the Android system. Well, Android is constructed along the principals of linux.
Also, take note that both Windows 7 and Windows 8 ask if you want to enable you're flash drive as swap. Windows finally caught on to this too. (Sorry Mac, you're still a little slow, but your products certainly cost enough!)
Anyway, one of our developers is enabling swap in his kernel now (SiyahKernel).
Availible here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1709686
And with full rom build and installer here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1734643
(Note: This kernel is for ICS and not LB, it's why I'm sticking with ICS now)
Here's a great write-up on enabling swap: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1814311&highlight=4+1
Ok, I've tested the T-Mobile s3 multiple times and found the quad scores (I know, I know) to be in the lower 4000's. Non-oc'd the int s3 was able to barely break into the 5000's.
Overclocked with SetCPU (has to be kernel enabled, the Siyah kernel allows this) and swap enabled (1 gig, class-10 sd), I was able to achieve 6230 on Quadrant Standard.
Not too damn shabby!
(Thanks Dev's)
Only question is, will there be any work-a-round to speed up the int on T-Mobile prior to the HSPA+?
Don't know.
dont be a fool! go with tmobile!!!
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dont be a fool! go with tmobile!!!
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If he wanted the int version it's his choice to make and that doesn't make him a fool.
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I was talking to a Best Buy Mobile employee(probably my first mistake). But he said he confirmed that the US version would be dual core. I have no reason to believe him but has anyone else heard that? I tried to find anything about this on the Note 2 forums but found nothing.
Everything points to quad. I'm more concerned about the lack of Wolfson DAC in the AT&T version...which is probably a given.
The Exynos 4412 has a 2nd variant with a LTE modem, so the US will get a quad-core as well.
http://www.androidpolice.com/2012/0...op-five-us-carriers-in-time-for-the-holidays/
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i was talking to a best buy mobile employee(probably my first mistake). But he said he confirmed that the us version would be dual core. I have no reason to believe him but has anyone else heard that? I tried to find anything about this on the note 2 forums but found nothing.
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At least I did preface it with a doubt of trust heh.
Turbotab said:
The Exynos 4412 has a 2nd variant with a LTE modem, so the US will get a quad-core as well.
http://www.androidpolice.com/2012/0...op-five-us-carriers-in-time-for-the-holidays/
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Frankly I was surprised they didn't have this quad core variant ready for the US carrier S3 but I find the Note2 far more compelling anyway.. In that class I prefer the HTCOneX variants but the Note2 is in its own king class of handsets. Every time I'm reminded of its features, it makes it that much harder to put up with my 22 month old EVO. The Note 2 should hold up far better than our current handsets but I wouldn't be surprised if the Note 3 has a 1080p screen with stereo speakers clocked at 2+GHz with 12+MP amazing camera features & additional enhancements-functionality prompting another interest in upgrading next year..
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Frankly I was surprised they didn't have this quad core variant ready for the US carrier S3 but I find the Note2 far more compelling anyway.. In that class I prefer the HTCOneX variants but the Note2 is in its own king class of handsets. Every time I'm reminded of its features, it makes it that much harder to put up with my 22 month old EVO. The Note 2 should hold up far better than our current handsets but I wouldn't be surprised if the Note 3 has a 1080p screen with stereo speakers clocked at 2+GHz with 12+MP amazing camera features & additional enhancements-functionality prompting another interest in upgrading next year..
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Oh it will be a nice upgrade for me too. Change from this old Thunderbolt heh. I've kinda wondered since the thunderbolt was one of the first 4g phones(the first?) would a newer phone actually be faster as far as data goes? I'm still a noob to a lot of stuff and just thought I would ask.
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Oh it will be a nice upgrade for me too. Change from this old Thunderbolt heh. I've kinda wondered since the thunderbolt was one of the first 4g phones(the first?) would a newer phone actually be faster as far as data goes? I'm still a noob to a lot of stuff and just thought I would ask.
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Any modern LTE phone will smoke the Thunderbolt as it had a janky first-gen LTE chip that completely sucked.
So yeah, the Note 2 will be blazing.
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Frankly I was surprised they didn't have this quad core variant ready for the US carrier S3 but I find the Note2 far more compelling anyway.. In that class I prefer the HTCOneX variants but the Note2 is in its own king class of handsets. Every time I'm reminded of its features, it makes it that much harder to put up with my 22 month old EVO. The Note 2 should hold up far better than our current handsets but I wouldn't be surprised if the Note 3 has a 1080p screen with stereo speakers clocked at 2+GHz with 12+MP amazing camera features & additional enhancements-functionality prompting another interest in upgrading next year..
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The Exynos 4 SoC doesn't have an LTE modem in it, so any Exynos 4 powered device has to have a seperate LTE modem chip. I'm guessing there wasn't enough room with the S3 while with the Note 2 there's probably enough real estate behind the screen for it.
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The Exynos 4 SoC doesn't have an LTE modem in it, so any Exynos 4 powered device has to have a seperate LTE modem chip. I'm guessing there wasn't enough room with the S3 while with the Note 2 there's probably enough real estate behind the screen for it.
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Seriously, nothing to do with size, see the link below, the LTE modem chip is hardly massive, it fits fine in a iPhone 5. Most likely the S3 Exynos wasn't launched with LTE, was due to time to market and the need to validate the new modem. The S3 was available first in Europe, where LTE is not yet common place, so a LTE version would have bumped the price for no benefit. There is a LTE version of Exynos S3 in the pipeline, due for release by late 2012, as Europe rolls out LTE.
http://guide-images.ifixit.net/igi/Xcm1d4MbTZVgFJfv.large
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Seriously, nothing to do with size, see the link below, the LTE modem chip is hardly massive, it fits fine in a iPhone 5. Most likely the S3 Exynos wasn't launched with LTE, was due to time to market and the need to validate the new modem. The S3 was available first in Europe, where LTE is not yet common place, so a LTE version would have bumped the price for no benefit. There is a LTE version of Exynos S3 in the pipeline, due for release by late 2012, as Europe rolls out LTE.
http://guide-images.ifixit.net/igi/Xcm1d4MbTZVgFJfv.large
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Space is usually at a premium in most smartphones, even if the components are relatively small. The iPhone 5 is a poor comparison since it's taller than the 4/4S so of course it would have more room for an LTE chip. There is already an Exynos 4 Galaxy S3 with LTE in Korea, and it is indeed thicker and heavier than the normal S3.
http://www.androidcentral.com/black-samsung-galaxy-s3-lte-jelly-bean-hands
Seems like decent evidence that it's a space issue. It's not the battery since they all use the same 2100mAh battery. Either way, this doesn't effect the US Note 2.
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Space is usually at a premium in most smartphones, even if the components are relatively small. The iPhone 5 is a poor comparison since it's taller than the 4/4S so of course it would have more room for an LTE chip. There is already an Exynos 4 Galaxy S3 with LTE in Korea, and it is indeed thicker and heavier than the normal S3.
Seems like decent evidence that it's a space issue. It's not the battery since they all use the same 2100mAh battery. Either way, this doesn't effect the US Note 2.
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Wasn't there a previous phone that was quad core international but dual core in the US? Or is it that S3 you are talking about now? Maybe that's the one I'm thinking about.
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Wasn't there a previous phone that was quad core international but dual core in the US? Or is it that S3 you are talking about now? Maybe that's the one I'm thinking about.
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The one x did that too. Internationally it was tegra 3 domestically it was s4 dual. But in that case is prefer the s4 as its newer architecture and smaller transistor size.
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Space is usually at a premium in most smartphones, even if the components are relatively small. The iPhone 5 is a poor comparison since it's taller than the 4/4S so of course it would have more room for an LTE chip. There is already an Exynos 4 Galaxy S3 with LTE in Korea, and it is indeed thicker and heavier than the normal S3.
http://www.androidcentral.com/black-samsung-galaxy-s3-lte-jelly-bean-hands
Seems like decent evidence that it's a space issue. It's not the battery since they all use the same 2100mAh battery. Either way, this doesn't effect the US Note 2.
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Android Central didn't point to any figures to back their claim about being thicker.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samsung_Galaxy_S_III
SHV-E210K/L/S - The Korean Model with LTE is slightly thicker 9.0 mm vs 8.6 mm & heavier 138.5g vs 133g, but the GT-I9305 (Exynos with LTE) is exactly the same weight and dimensions as the regular international i9300, not sure why the Korean model is a tiny bit heavier, hold the press the Korean model has model RAM 2 GB vs only 1 GB in the international, hence the slightly heavier weight. OK, according to a different source the LTE international is slightly heavier (+2 grams), but the same dimension as the non-LTE international.
http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=specs&id=3789&c=samsung_gt-i9305_galaxy_s_iii_lte_eu
http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=specs&id=3495&c=samsung_gt-i9300_galaxy_s_iii_32gb
Btw, regarding the Galaxy S3 aside from a larger battery, what additional components are there that require more space than the smaller iPhone 5?, so I personally doubt think space was a factor in this case, although you are right that space is always tight in smartphones, it was more likely no LTE in Europe, would create a higher cost and worse battery life for the consumer for no additional benefit. Anyway, maybe we are both wrong and Samsung wanted to piss off the early adopters, by releasing a LTE version with twice the RAM a few months later
Probably just coincidence but I've wondered if some current phones actually get better data speeds than others? I went to the verizon store and used the speedtest app on an sg3 and a maxx razer hd and the sg3 only got 8-10MB and the razer got 25MB on the same 4g network in the store. It sounds too far apart to be a coincidence...
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Probably just coincidence but I've wondered if some current phones actually get better data speeds than others? I went to the verizon store and used the speedtest app on an sg3 and a maxx razer hd and the sg3 only got 8-10MB and the razer got 25MB on the same 4g network in the store. It sounds too far apart to be a coincidence...
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Both the Verizon Galaxy S3 and the Razr Maxx HD use the same Qualcomm S4 SoC with the same LTE modem built into it. Not sure why you got different speedtest results but it's probably not because of the hardware. Could possibly be antenna design, but I doubt it.
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Probably just coincidence but I've wondered if some current phones actually get better data speeds than others? I went to the verizon store and used the speedtest app on an sg3 and a maxx razer hd and the sg3 only got 8-10MB and the razer got 25MB on the same 4g network in the store. It sounds too far apart to be a coincidence...
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Of course... all the time...
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Both the Verizon Galaxy S3 and the Razr Maxx HD use the same Qualcomm S4 SoC with the same LTE modem built into it. Not sure why you got different speedtest results but it's probably not because of the hardware. Could possibly be antenna design, but I doubt it.
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Antenna design/placement/material could have a VERY huge factor. Hardware probably isn't the best explanation
I would have got the s3 if it was quad core. Definitely a buying factor for me that the note 2 is quad.
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gmkelly001 said:
Both the Verizon Galaxy S3 and the Razr Maxx HD use the same Qualcomm S4 SoC with the same LTE modem built into it. Not sure why you got different speedtest results but it's probably not because of the hardware. Could possibly be antenna design, but I doubt it.
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That makes sense but that still confuses me how it would be that different. Hopefully the note 2 will be closer to the maxx hd in speeds.
Hello everyone so I just have to ask. I am strongly considering moving to T-Mobile from Verizon considering T's new promotions. Gonna go to the Note 3 if I do. So what I want to know is how is the development? Is anyone from the central Kentucky area or East Tennessee area (I travel between the two a lot.) How is the coverage, 4g coverage, 4g speed? Just doing some research before I make the jump. Any opinions is appreciated.
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Development is picking up. Tweaked by dwitherell is the best you can get.
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I think newer Verizon phones have SIM cards, not sure of details, but maybe you could get 1 month prepaid SIM from T-Mo and possibly test it? The problem with asking others is that a person on one side of town could have totally different coverage from the person across. In some less populated areas T-mo may have less coverage, but you can use WiFi calling and alleviate some problems that way.
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here for more info on using VZ phone on T-mo
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2570564
Hi guys,
I am looking into getting this device. However I am not sure if I can use it with verizon. I had a little chat today with a verizon rep after shipping my note 7 back and I got told that I could now use any phone with verizon as long as it has a sim-card slot and one of the regular sim sizes (microSIM and nanoSIM).
Anyone tried it with verizon?
I belive its gsm networks
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But according to http://willmyphonework.net it seems 3g will work 4g may not
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According to Verizon I can use any unlocked phone which accepts a SIM card....
Its a lot of money to be stuck with as paper weight
I also would like to know this.
Voice and SMS Only so far for me.
No LTE as VZW requires Band 13 for BYOD phones and this phone does not have 13.
It does have EV-DO so 3g should work but I can't get it to.
Ah to bad. Such an amazing phone. Just crazy that the world can't unite and standardize frequency bands and protocols. We were able to have shipping containers and the cigarette lighter plugs standardized . Too bad that we can't do it here.