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CM7 final bootloop

So I have a rooted (latest unrevoked) EVO with stock ROM. Radio is the current version so I did not need to flash a new radio. I have the rom backed up with rom manager and also a Titanium Backup.
I download Cm7-final with Rom Manager and proceed to flash it. All appears well until it loads and I'm stuck in CM7 splash bootloop and never get into the actual OS/homescreen. I boot to recovery and restore my prior rom backup, luckily all is fine.
My question is what have i done wrong? I read the EVO CM7 Wiki and it looks like I followed the instructions correctly. Do I need to ditch using RomManager and try it manually? Any suggestions on why I got this bootloop?

i had the same problem when i tried to update on the g2. i backed up the phone and wipe data and caches and flashed again the it worked you might have to do it acouple of times
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KNguyen104 said:
i had the same problem when i tried to update on the g2. i backed up the phone and wipe data and caches and flashed again the it worked you might have to do it acouple of times
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Using the RomManager interface I chose to Wipe Data and Cache and also chose the gapps package to install. I guess I could try it again but I was mystified why it didnt work since I "thought" it was so simple.

If you're coming from a sense rom, wipe cache, data, dalvik, system, boot, basically everything but the sd card. After that, flash cyanogenmod, then gapps, then start the phone.
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snowboarda42 said:
If you're coming from a sense rom, wipe cache, data, dalvik, system, boot, basically everything but the sd card. After that, flash cyanogenmod, then gapps, then start the phone.
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I'm an android noob, you'll have to forgive me. I thought when I selected "wipe data and cache" prior to flashing CM7 in the RomManager interface that it meant it would wipe all of that.
So I need to manually wipe everything except the card? Also, a secondary question, will any of this jeopardize the ability to restore my currently backed up stock sense rom if **** hits the fan?

Alpine- said:
I'm an android noob, you'll have to forgive me. I thought when I selected "wipe data and cache" prior to flashing CM7 in the RomManager interface that it meant it would wipe all of that.
So I need to manually wipe everything except the card? Also, a secondary question, will any of this jeopardize the ability to restore my currently backed up stock sense rom if **** hits the fan?
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No it won't as long as you have a nandroid. Look up the "VR Superwipe," and flash it. I'd recommend booting into recovery manually and doing this. Wipe cache and dalvik after flashing the superwipe for good measure. Finally flash the ROM.
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Alpine- said:
So I have a rooted (latest unrevoked) EVO with stock ROM. Radio is the current version so I did not need to flash a new radio. I have the rom backed up with rom manager and also a Titanium Backup.
I download Cm7-final with Rom Manager and proceed to flash it. All appears well until it loads and I'm stuck in CM7 splash bootloop and never get into the actual OS/homescreen. I boot to recovery and restore my prior rom backup, luckily all is fine.
My question is what have i done wrong? I read the EVO CM7 Wiki and it looks like I followed the instructions correctly. Do I need to ditch using RomManager and try it manually? Any suggestions on why I got this bootloop?
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I had the same issue....although mine have been caused by restoring system data.
What I did is manually DL the rom, boot into recover, wiped cache/dalvic, flashed from zip (Both CM7 and the proper GAPPS file) and it worked.

eventer289 said:
No it won't as long as you have a nandroid. Look up the "VR Superwipe," and flash it. I'd recommend booting into recovery manually and doing this. Wipe cache and dalvik after flashing the superwipe for good measure. Finally flash the ROM.
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nandroid? So the RomManager rom backup I created isnt sufficient? I also have a full Titanium Backup saved too. Why Nandroid? I was under the impression this was just a similar app to Titanium - wrong?
Thanks for the input guys.

Alpine- said:
nandroid? So the RomManager rom backup I created isnt sufficient? I also have a full Titanium Backup saved too. Why Nandroid? I was under the impression this was just a similar app to Titanium - wrong?
Thanks for the input guys.
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So wait, still getting the loops?

teh roxxorz said:
So wait, still getting the loops?
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I have no tried since I got all these suggestions. Sorry for the confusion. I suspect manually wiping and manually installing will work.

Alpine:
When I first started flashing stuff I relied on the Clockwork app to do everything. I used it to flash roms and clear/wipe data and cache. However, after running into problems like yours I started doing it manually.
What I started doing was booting into RECOVERY (i know it sounds scary but it really isn't) A little off topic but there is a great app that I think every rooted user should use, it's called: Reboot Control Widget It only costs a measly $1 in the Market but it's well worth it. Basically you put the widget on the desktop and click on it. You are then given the option to Reboot your phone, Hot Boot (fast reboot), boot into Recovery, Bootloader or Shut Down. Best dollar you will ever spend on an app.
So anyway, l strayed from my point. The problem you are experiencing is partially due to not having fully wiped your phones data/cache. I know you think you did it through the Clockwork app but from experience it doesn't work that well. There is a "flashable" file called Calkulin's Format All. It is in the DEV section posted in Calkulin's Rom section. It will clear everything except the contents of your SD card.
1. Boot into RECOVERY
2. find: INSTALL ZIP FROM SDCARD
3. select the Calkulin's Format ALL.zip file (your phone will be totally clean after this)
4. Again, choose INSTALL ZIP FROM SDCARD
5. Select the ROM you want to flash. (If it is a Cyanogen based ROM you will have to flash the appropriate Google Apps file after flashing the ROM. If flashing a Sense ROM the Gapps file is not necessary)
6. Flash Gapps file (Google apps if necessary)
7. Once this is done select REBOOT SYSTEM NOW
I feel confident that if you follow those steps you won't run into any bootloops!

I have added the Format All.zip file that I mentioned in my last post.
Little advice:
- take the time to do a Nandroid before flashing a new rom
- use Titanium to restore only the apps w/o the data. I know it's nice to restore everything the way you had it on the last rom but from my experience this has led to instability in the new rom. Also from my experience when you are on a SENSE rom and use Titanium to backup your files and data when you install a AOSP (like CM) rom and try to restore those files and data it won't even let you. Just something to keep in mind if you are switching between CM to Sense or vice versa.

Alpine- said:
I have no tried since I got all these suggestions. Sorry for the confusion. I suspect manually wiping and manually installing will work.
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Yes it should.
Manually wipe you factory/data, cache, dalvik, then flash the rom with the latest gapps and you'll be good.

SantinoInc said:
Alpine:
When I first started flashing stuff I relied on the Clockwork app to do everything. I used it to flash roms and clear/wipe data and cache. However, after running into problems like yours I started doing it manually.....
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Wow, great post. Very informative and detailed, thanks a lot.
So why is creating a nandroid backup better than the ROM backup function in RomManager? I restored that rom once and it worked flawlessly. How does nandroid differ from the rom backup created in RomManager?

when you use clockwordmod recovery to wipe your phone the dalvik doesn't wipe with the wipe option you see on the main screen, i belive you will see the option to wipe it in the advanced menu

Alpine- said:
Wow, great post. Very informative and detailed, thanks a lot.
So why is creating a nandroid backup better than the ROM backup function in RomManager? I restored that rom once and it worked flawlessly. How does nandroid differ from the rom backup created in RomManager?
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They are the same. ROM Manager boots you into recovery and nandroids for you. People have mixed experiences with ROM Manager. From my experience it is best just to boot manually into recovery and take care of all your flashing and wiping there.
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Nandroid backup?

I am thinking right now?
Did a nandroid backup when I was completely happy with ROM (MIUI GingerBread).
After that I sat and played a lot of different apps widgets, etc.
Also downloaded a bunch of widgets and tested.
Then when I tried it finished I went into file manager and deleted the folders that I thought had something to do with the apps I tested.
But if I accidentally delete a folder that I should not have been removed, reset everything anyway when I reset my nadroid backup?

Are you asking if a nandroid restore will restore the data you deleted on your sd card? If so, the answer is no.
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No, just want to know if I accidentally deleted something that was needed in my nandroid backup?
Or you can delete anything on the SD card and it will still be reset by nandroid backup?

Nadroids are stored on your sdcard at /sdcard/clockworkmod/backup/ (at least for me). Don't touch this folder. If you are unsure what to delete, nandroid and copy the entire SD to your computer.
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Do you need to do a wipe of everything before you restore a backup nandroid?

depends what you mean by wipe everything, do you mean your data or your dalvik cache?
you can restore a nandroid back up with the dalvik cache in place, but that really depends why you're doing the restore as you might want to wipe and start a fresh.

puredesire said:
But if I accidentally delete a folder that I should not have been removed, reset everything anyway when I reset my nadroid backup?
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Check SD card
/sdcard/clockworkmod/backup/ for ClockworkMOD recovery
/sdcard/nandroid for AmonRA recovery

puredesire said:
Do you need to do a wipe of everything before you restore a backup nandroid?
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You can wipe everything you want unless it states otherwise. If you are simply updating your ROM to a newer version, you may not need to do a full wipe. Just read the 1st and 2nd pages of the ROM forum for more information on that...

Nandroid does not back up or restore anything from sd storage, and your radio, recovery and hboot are also separate.

stringer7 said:
Nandroid does not back up or restore anything from sd storage, and your radio, recovery and hboot are also separate.
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Except for an ext-partition of the sd-card, as far as any exists. At least amonra-recovery has this option, do not know as it is with the clockworkmod-recovery.

[Q]How to backup without root?

as the title says, i want to backup my phone for root. however most backup programs require root. anyone able to help me out?

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=18578780
Follow the steps above, BUT after you Odin recovery do a nandroid backup BEFORE you root with the superuser zip. This way your backup won't have root access.
Now you don't have to root at all, but at least you'll have access to recovery and have a stock backup and SU zip file handy in case you do want to root.
Powered by the SGSII....

thank you sir, i just didnt want to reinstall all the apps and stuffs that i already had on here before root. yeah its a small thing but still would like to save the settings i had and whatnot on them.

there's no way to perform a full back without root
all the good backup Apps requires root to work
namely Nandroid (in CWR) or Titanium Backup

Where does nandroid store the backup? I was going to restore a backup, after data wipe, wipe cache, and wipe system/dalvik. I always wipe these when installing any ROM on my Vibrant and now SGS II. No backup exists now.
It must be one of the areas I wiped. I need to know so I don't wipe my backups anymore?

apicia said:
Where does nandroid store the backup? I was going to restore a backup, after data wipe, wipe cache, and wipe system/dalvik. I always wipe these when installing any ROM on my Vibrant and now SGS II. No backup exists now.
It must be one of the areas I wiped. I need to know so I don't wipe my backups anymore?
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/sdcard/external_sd/clockworkmod/backup

AllGamer said:
there's no way to perform a full back without root
all the good backup Apps requires root to work
namely Nandroid (in CWR) or Titanium Backup
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Thats not exactly true... Nandroid backup can be done in cwm without root.
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First time flashing ROM question

I rooted, did a CWM backup and also did a titanium backup. I downloaded a jelly bean ROM and dragged it into my phone. My question is this. After I do a wipe and then install the ROM won't titanium backup be deleted? How will I restore from titanium after I install the ROM?
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jackryan57 said:
I rooted, did a CWM backup and also did a titanium backup. I downloaded a jelly bean ROM and dragged it into my phone. My question is this. After I do a wipe and then install the ROM won't titanium backup be deleted? How will I restore from titanium after I install the ROM?
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TiBu backs up to your internal (or external) sdcard, which doesn't get wiped when you do a wipe & factory reset (cache, dalvikcache, system, and data partitions), so you're good to go as long as you remember not to format your sdcards. Just re-install TiBu + TiBu key (paid) after flashing the ROM, then restore. If you're worried, tell TiBu to backup to DropBox or GoogleDrive instead.

zmore said:
TiBu backs up to your internal (or external) sdcard, which doesn't get wiped when you do a wipe & factory reset (cache, dalvikcache, system, and data partitions), so you're good to go as long as you remember not to format your sdcards. Just re-install TiBu + TiBu key (paid) after flashing the ROM, then restore. If you're worried, tell TiBu to backup to DropBox or GoogleDrive instead.
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Thank you for the reply! I just assumed a wipe would wipe everything. Thanks again.:good:

[Q] Restored Rom Manager backup and now everything force closes.

Can someone please help. Running a rooted GS4 4.3. Made a backup with Rom Manager. was trying some zips to try and get WALLET with tap and pay working, well no go. so I did a full wipe, then booted into recovery and restored the back up I had. Now everything just force closes, making the phone pretty much unusable. There is no Fix Permissions in RM 6.0.2.2 to see if that will help. can someone please help!!!
Thank you
Rick

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dvst8ion said:
Can someone please help. Running a rooted GS4 4.3. Made a backup with Rom Manager. was trying some zips to try and get WALLET with tap and pay working, well no go. so I did a full wipe, then booted into recovery and restored the back up I had. Now everything just force closes, making the phone pretty much unusable. There is no Fix Permissions in RM 6.0.2.2 to see if that will help. can someone please help!!!
Thank you
Rick
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Try this, before you restore the nandroid backup in cwm recovery wipe data, system, cache, dalvik cache
and last but not least do a "factory reset".
Once that's done go a head and restore the nandroid backup in cwm recovery.
There is a very good chance it will work just fine after doing that.
Good luck!

Misterjunky said:
Try this, before you restore the nandroid backup in cwm recovery wipe data, system, cache, dalvik cache
and last but not least do a "factory reset".
Once that's done go a head and restore the nandroid backup in cwm recovery.
There is a very good chance it will work just fine after doing that.
Good luck!
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There is no data wipe in touch 6.0.4.4 it has data wipe/factory reset.

dvst8ion said:
There is no data wipe in touch 6.0.4.4 it has data wipe/factory reset.
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That's ok too, just do the data wipe factory reset and all the other wipes, system, cache, dalvik cache.

Misterjunky said:
That's ok too, just do the data wipe factory reset and all the other wipes, system, cache, dalvik cache.
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Ok so now in CWM Touch i cannot see my backup. I can see it when I'm in Rom Manager though. I did make a copy of the backup via Rom Manager server and saved it to my computer. How do I restore this back to my phone so CWM can see it.

This really sucks. I can not figure out how to get my backup into the secure section /mnt/shell/emulated/clockworkmod/backup. I tried to manually put it there using Root Explorer, but that doesnt work.. Really need help here.

dvst8ion said:
This really sucks. I can not figure out how to get my backup into the secure section /mnt/shell/emulated/clockworkmod/backup. I tried to manually put it there using Root Explorer, but that doesnt work.. Really need help here.
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Maybe try to restore from Rom Manager. Maybe it will restore through their server the same way you backed up. Just a thought.Good luck.

grncherry said:
Maybe try to restore from Rom Manager. Maybe it will restore through their server the same way you backed up. Just a thought.Good luck.
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It only gives me an option to download to my computer not from the computer to the phone.

dvst8ion said:
It only gives me an option to download to my computer not from the computer to the phone.
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From the short search that I did, it appears the restore function is only available with the Premium version.

grncherry said:
From the short search that I did, it appears the restore function is only available with the Premium version.
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I have the Premium. It is only one way it looks like. It makes a Zip file, which from my research, is a flashable zip. However i try to flash it and it fails;

dvst8ion said:
I have the Premium. It is only one way it looks like. It makes a Zip file, which from my research, is a flashable zip. However i try to flash it and it fails;
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I think you have to flash it through your CWM recovery. Try to boot into recovery and hit install.Seems there's a backup and restore function through Rom Manager.
You may want to reflash your kernel too, just for the heck of it.

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