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[Q] Best rom/kernel to put on friends Incredible?

So my friend wants me to root his Incredible and install a Rom on his phone to help with the performance and battery issues he's been having. What do you guys think is the best Rom/Kernel for the Incredible and what mod's and tweaks should I put on it for him? I likely won't be able to update things for him much so I want something that's stable.
I was thinking CM 7.1 like I have on my Atrix 4G which I love but what do you guys suggest because you all actually have the phone?
Sorry for the noobish question, I just don't know that much about the Incredible and the development going on for it.
Thanks!

There's that CM7.1, or Bugless Beast, or if he wants our Incredible stock Sense, there's roms like Stock+, and a few others that are pretty nice. They're all stable, and as for kernels, go onto Incredikernel.com, and go to latest downloads, and you'll see kernels for AOSP roms, or some for Sense roms under that. Even though there's a bunch, just get the latest, those are probably the best Incredible kernels, they're nice on battery life, and have a lot of other nifty features. Also, for roms, if he would like MIUI, last time I tried it, it was virtually bug free, but I just don't personally care for it, because of the iOS look. Good luck though, hope this helps with what you're doing.

I've been using Joelz Prime-XL-3D (Sense 3.5, GB 2.3.5) for a couple of weeks now, and I love it. I was on a stock ROM forever thinking that speed and battery life would be better, but I was wrong. Yes this is slightly slower than stock, and the battery lasts about an hour less than before (maybe I use it more now?), but I can live with both. I'm about to try Tiny's latest kernal so maybe battery life increases.
The only problem I have had (and it's a known issue) is that the camera FC's all the time, sometimes requiring a battery pull. But again I love it.

Inc deck with incredikernel.
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Cm 7.1 with incredikernel, ext 4 mod, adrenaline mod, and undervolt slightly with incredicontrol.
-My life is a shooting range, people never change-

watt9493 said:
Cm 7.1 with incredikernel, ext 4 mod, adrenaline mod, and undervolt slightly with incredicontrol.
-My life is a shooting range, people never change-
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doubled ^ ^
you might want to skip the undervolting. It's a lengthy process to get it right and still if you shoot up a lot of programs at once it can cause your phone to reboot. Mainly happens to me when I used the camera, the worst time ever for it to reboot when I want to capture a moment.
But if you use the above you'll for sure get much better speed, performance, battery life with a little flare of sexy if you choose (customizing your launchers, widget locker, or if you use android kitchen)

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doubled ^ ^
you might want to skip the undervolting. It's a lengthy process to get it right and still if you shoot up a lot of programs at once it can cause your phone to reboot. Mainly happens to me when I used the camera, the worst time ever for it to reboot when I want to capture a moment.
But if you use the above you'll for sure get much better speed, performance, battery life with a little flare of sexy if you choose (customizing your launchers, widget locker, or if you use android kitchen)
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I was just gonna say a -25 drop to min and Max.
-My life is a shooting range, people never change-

watt9493 said:
I was just gonna say a -25 drop to min and Max.
-My life is a shooting range, people never change-
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I tried that on mine, worked great most of the time but occasionally caused reboots at really bad times. I figured it wasn't worth the battery gain, but all phones are different and can handle different voltages so it probably still is worth to try it out.

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Cm 7.1 with incredikernel, ext 4 mod, adrenaline mod, and undervolt slightly with incredicontrol.
-My life is a shooting range, people never change-
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POQbum said:
doubled ^ ^
you might want to skip the undervolting. It's a lengthy process to get it right and still if you shoot up a lot of programs at once it can cause your phone to reboot. Mainly happens to me when I used the camera, the worst time ever for it to reboot when I want to capture a moment.
But if you use the above you'll for sure get much better speed, performance, battery life with a little flare of sexy if you choose (customizing your launchers, widget locker, or if you use android kitchen)
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watt9493 said:
I was just gonna say a -25 drop to min and Max.
-My life is a shooting range, people never change-
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POQbum said:
I tried that on mine, worked great most of the time but occasionally caused reboots at really bad times. I figured it wasn't worth the battery gain, but all phones are different and can handle different voltages so it probably still is worth to try it out.
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Thanks guys!
I think I'll just put CM 7.1 on it with EXT4 /data and /cache and undervolt it. I'm running V6 Supercharger on my Atrix, what do you guys recommend for the Incredible? Universal Adrenaline V13 or V6 Supercharger Update 9 RC3.2?
Thanks again.

try adrenaline first,luckily you can mount and delete the scripts,restart then try v6 and compare,most of what u seek needs to be established by trial and error with comparison since everyone is different. odds are you'll be on cm7 if you go aosp route....incredikernel is best for that,everything else past that is personal choice once you experiment everything

Best/recomended MIUI rom?

Hello all.
I've been out the loop for a while now, still got stock sense on my DZ but have recently become very interested in MIUI roms. I have a few quick questions I hope someone can answer as after reading the various roms etc I'm a bit confused.
1. How well do MIUI roms work with the hardware keyboard? I'm seeing a few threads saying it isn't totally supported. This is a deal breaker for me really, can anyone clarify?
2. Which MIUI rom? I see there is an official one, but also others similar to official eg MIUIandroid, any particular 'best' version?
3. How is the battery life compared to sense? Does anyone have any current draw figures for screen off etc, my sense draws around 32mA screen off.
4. I assume they come with overclockable kernels, if so, is OC beater or whatever it's called still the best to use?
I'm interested to hear from MIUI users, sell it to me.

1. I've had no problems while using the keyboard with MIUI, it seems to work the same way as before. I have heard some people say that their backlights don't work but mine do. However, landscape is not supported on the homescreen but it is everywhere else.
2. I use the official english supported rom for Desire Z/G2, you can get it from ROM Manager or the MIUI website. I'm not sure about the best one because I've only used the official one.
I don't know about 3 and 4 but I do enjoy using MIUI. It was the first rom I used after I rooted my phone. I used to want sense but because of emoji support and themes I probably won't use another. I do recommend it as I have not been disappointed.

Thanks for replying.
Instead of exact current figures, maybe you could say what your typical daily use is like and what your battery level is at the end of the day?

I've tried miui us and miui android. Both are good and can tell any difference in look feel or performance. Also tried a couple of the miui v4 roms in the dev section. They are really good and give a snappier feel to the miui environment.
V4 is possibly better with battery but marginal. Compared to the stock rom I came from, battery is much improved. No figures I'm afraid as my days vary greatly. Camera is an issue on all ICS roms on the dz/g2 so decide if that's a problem or not.
Enjoy.
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Thanks for that.
I'm gonna flash the 'official' miuiAndroid tonight I think, need the camera so the ICS is a no go for now.
As long as battery is noticeably better than stock sense then I'll be happy.

Myrmidon83 said:
Thanks for that.
I'm gonna flash the 'official' miuiAndroid tonight I think, need the camera so the ICS is a no go for now.
As long as battery is noticeably better than stock sense then I'll be happy.
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good luck and enjoy. Give it a couple of charge cycles with the CPU adjusted you should see a significant improvement.
I generally run 900mhz Max with interactive governor.
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i definitely recommend the MIUIandroid version, the translation is far more complete. Miui.us just has faster servers! If you send/receive a bunch of picture messages, I suggest you download my modified Mms.apk from the link in my signature, more info is in that thread.
I've been using MIUI.au v4 for the last few days. pictures are slightly annoying, but if you take two or three, you usually get a good one, but the pictures do have to be taken in landscape.

Well I have been running it for the day and I have to say that I love it! Much better than sense, seems really stable and I love the customisation.
I was going to ask about that mms thing, I'll check the thread out.
As for the battery, it has run down quite quick today but I've been playing with it a lot and expect to need to have a few charge cycles till it settles.
One question though, does the OC/OVbeater overclocking thing work with this rom/kernel or should I stick with set cpu?

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One question though, does the OC/OVbeater overclocking thing work with this rom/kernel or should I stick with set cpu?
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Just to give you an answer, I don't know. But it's an AOSP kernel so... it should!

Have you flashed the bulletproof addon? It adds the Vituous OC daemon as well as OC/UV Beater. From there you can operate as intended and should probably have no issues. Personally I've never been able to OC over 1,3GHz on any MIUI ROM, may be the Tiamat kernel for me though...Anyway the highest I'd go on MIUI would be just barely 1,3-1,4GHz! Practically you wouldn't be needing more than 1,2GHz for heavier apps but considering this is MIUI and is a bit heavier, 1,3GHz will cater your needs.
Otherwise, OC/UV Beater will work but it will be limited to just Normal configuration, since the Virtuous OC daemon (which I presume you use?) is not cooked in, hence it can not be configured. You also can't undervolt because viper uv is also not included. If you're not interested in flashing Bulletproof then I'd stick with either SetCPU or even CPU Tuner (switched to this over from SetCPU and liking the fact it has more extensive configuration, as well as less battery drain). You can find CPU Tuner in the market, if you're interested.
Also, battery life wasn't half as bad actually. I find the MIUI Launcher to be a bit heavy and more resource consuming for my use. You can use Go Launcher or ADW if you want though.

Take a look at the bulletproof add on pack. It includes some nice tweaks, one being a kernel that supports OCing.
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MarkyG82 said:
I've tried miui us and miui android. Both are good and can tell any difference in look feel or performance. Also tried a couple of the miui v4 roms in the dev section. They are really good and give a snappier feel to the miui environment.
V4 is possibly better with battery but marginal. Compared to the stock rom I came from, battery is much improved. No figures I'm afraid as my days vary greatly. Camera is an issue on all ICS roms on the dz/g2 so decide if that's a problem or not.
Enjoy.
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I will like to second that! Im running a MIUI V4 port by ajhavery and lenny_kano (MIUI_Au 4.0.3 base 2.3.2) and it is working very well. Except my battery life is not as good as the official MIUI ROMS. BTW Angel Camera from the market works perfectly on this ROM with no glitches.

crestofawave said:
Have you flashed the bulletproof addon? It adds the Vituous OC daemon as well as OC/UV Beater. From there you can operate as intended and should probably have no issues. Personally I've never been able to OC over 1,3GHz on any MIUI ROM, may be the Tiamat kernel for me though...Anyway the highest I'd go on MIUI would be just barely 1,3-1,4GHz! Practically you wouldn't be needing more than 1,2GHz for heavier apps but considering this is MIUI and is a bit heavier, 1,3GHz will cater your needs.
Otherwise, OC/UV Beater will work but it will be limited to just Normal configuration, since the Virtuous OC daemon (which I presume you use?) is not cooked in, hence it can not be configured. You also can't undervolt because viper uv is also not included. If you're not interested in flashing Bulletproof then I'd stick with either SetCPU or even CPU Tuner (switched to this over from SetCPU and liking the fact it has more extensive configuration, as well as less battery drain). You can find CPU Tuner in the market, if you're interested.
Also, battery life wasn't half as bad actually. I find the MIUI Launcher to be a bit heavy and more resource consuming for my use. You can use Go Launcher or ADW if you want though.
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Oh so you can use the bulletproof add on with any miui rom then?
I'm using setcpu just now but I may try cpu tuner. I tend not to overclock to be honest, I'm more interested in underclocking when screen is off etc but I may try 900MHz or 1GHz, it's running very smooth at 800MHz though.

Myrmidon83 said:
Oh so you can use the bulletproof add on with any miui rom then?
I'm using setcpu just now but I may try cpu tuner. I tend not to overclock to be honest, I'm more interested in underclocking when screen is off etc but I may try 900MHz or 1GHz, it's running very smooth at 800MHz though.
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1. Bulletproof addon is for ANY 2.3 based miui. NOT miui v4.
2. The chip in dz/g2 is designed to run at 1ghz. Htc just UCed it to save on juice and market it as a lower spec (that's how I understood it anyway). I find at 800 it just feels a touch laggy. That extra 100 takes the edge off.
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Does installing bulletproof clear any data at all?
Is it flashed from recovery?

Shouldn't clear anything. I say shouldn't as you can never guarantee it. I've never had any issues. Always a good idea to clear cache and dalvik when flashing anything. And yes, its flashed in recovery.
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So I flashed this at the weekend and so far all is well.
Though I must admit, I'm not noticing the battery gains I was hoping for, a minimal boost is all. It does kinda seem that it uses more with the screen on than it used to, some comparison figures for those interested, taken using battery monitor widget.
Screen Off
Stock Sense: 31-34mA current draw
MIUI: 28mA Current Draw
Screen On (taken as sitting at homescreen doing nothing)
Stock Sense: 147-190mA
MIUI: 137-230mA
It's probably still calibrating and I never wiped the battery stats. Would there be a benefit in doing so?
Also, I have noticed that when charging, the light goes green when charge is only around 90% done, any news on this?

The light goes green once the battery is > 90%, this is more or less intended behaviour.
There had been a recent announcement by a Google employee that wiping the battery stats has no visible battery life improvement. All it does is wipe the statistics file that shows you what uses your battery. What you can merely do is run the battery down to 20~% (wouldn't go below that as the failsafe might go off) and then back to 100% for 3-4 times, so that the Battery Meter can become more accurate. From there it is ideal to run it down to 20-30% twice every month in order to keep the battery health in good shape.
MIUI was merely created to be iPhone-ish, cool looking, and very user friendly. It looks awesome, inarguably, but battery life isn't it's strong point. I wouldn't be surprised if it draw more than Sense itself, too. ROM's that have the best battery life are barebones. These have a lot of features suppressed in order to save up in RAM as well as battery consumption. There's also little customizing you can do to them.
However, if you want a good battery life ROM that does not cost you anything in features, you should try Tsubus' ILWT CM7 ROM. It is a CyanogenMod 7 based ROM, that has been fine tuned for speed and battery life alike. I've been a user for a long time and the phones takes me easily through a day with plenty of juice left (about 40-50%). You will have to go through the above meter calibration process again.

Yeah I know and don't get me wrong, MIUI gets me through a day no problem, maybe I was just being a bit too hopeful.
Have to say though that I have fallen in love with MIUI, I can't imagine using another rom now.

well if you are looking to use the bulletproof addon then i made a rom myself with some mods included in it... you can check it out from the link in my signature...

which rom its most stable and good battery life?

which rom its most stable and good battery life ? and everything its working ?

Juggernaut 5.0 is my pick:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1322642

I get incredible battery life on darkside digital warfare, very stableas well
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yongh said:
which rom its most stable and good battery life ? and everything its working ?
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Questions like this r more or less preference..
Unless u want atleast 20 different answers I suggest simply finding 1 that works best 4 u as quite simply every1 has different needs for the device and even though hardware wise their almost identical, no 2 ppl use the phone alike. Simply download a few and test, if u find one, just flash a kernel that works best for you, for batterylife look for the list of safe to rwmove apps and remove some.. by disabling the ones u don't need it stops em from runnin n usin ur battery. U can save alot like that

Different roms work better on different phones, even though we're all running the same model. I don't know why that is, but it is. The smoothest rom for my phone by far is Paradox Paradise II, but the battery life is just okay. The best battery life I've had by a huge margin was running Mohk's old rom with synergy kernel. I used to get almost 2 days with moderate use, at at least 1 full day with heavy use. As far as stability, they are all very stable if you install them correctly. I've had minor issues here and there, but they are usually fixed pretty quickly.

Hey all i just got my gs2 a few days ago and i just rooted it well my question would be i like music great sound ect.. what would you recommend..

I'd say, start stock. Then root and then load up kernel that you like. Mess around with overclocking and undervolting.
Once your comfortable with it then load up titanium and start removing bloat, at this point you will have a good idea of what ROM is good simply by installing the ROM and looking at the processes.
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[Q] Differences between Synergy and Darkside X kernels

I see that some rom developers are currently changing from the darkside kernel to the synergy kernel. I know that synergy has better battery life than Darkside X kernel (or that it should) since Darkside X is much faster and smoother.
1. But is the battery life of Darkside X kernel significantly lower or just a little lower than the synergy kernel?
2. Also, what are some features that the synergy kernel offers that the Darkside X kernel doesn't, and vice versa?
Thanks!

h1a8 said:
I see that some rom developers are currently changing from the darkside kernel to the synergy kernel. I know that synergy has better battery life than Darkside X kernel (or that it should) since Darkside X is much faster and smoother.
1. But is the battery life of Darkside X kernel significantly lower or just a little lower than the synergy kernel?
2. Also, what are some features that the synergy kernel offers that the Darkside X kernel doesn't, and vice versa?
Thanks!
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Bro i read somewhere before NEVER COMPARE TWO ROMS OR KARNELS OF TWO DIFFERENT DEVS . ITS JUST AN INSULT OF THEM.THEY ARE GOOD ON THEIR OWN WAY .
Not being mean rude but telling you truth i have learn.
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neither is better than the other. One gives you better battery life while the other gives you better performance. Its a trade off. both are good in there own way. I just want to know if there are features one has that the other doesn't. And does synergy beat darkside in battery life by a lot or a little.

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neither is better than the other. One gives you better battery life while the other gives you better performance. Its a trade off. both are good in there own way. I just want to know if there are features one has that the other doesn't. And does synergy beat darkside in battery life by a lot or a little.
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Generally speaking your mileage will vary with everything. ROMs, kernels, whatever. I personally get better battery life with darksidex and smoother performance with synergy. Most of it is probably placebo either way.

Flash and find out every phone is different.

synergy supports almost every governor. this only will matter to you if you know what a governor is...
darkside is more noob friendly. also, if u are running a darkside rom, do not use a diff kernel.
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u can use any kernel on any rom, (CM7 excluded). As others have said different kernels support different things, and may or may not be better for u given your needs. If u stress battery life, governor options in synergy will help u with that, finding the best balance between scaling and performance. Dark side may be better for gaming. All comes down to user preference

Synergy doesn't have all the sophisticated bells and whistles like swapping cache and page serving stow away performance like DS or any kernel with ram appreciating software. So to speak it's software for better page cruising experience.
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Best Battery Rom

So I am thinking that JB Roms are still in development and won't have good battery. Is there any good battery roms on ICS?
Also are there any gingerbread roms?

You would be thinking right seeing as jb just came out. Just search and see what people are commenting on, battery wise
DO YOU JELLY?

Can i have a ICS rom and a JB rom running on Boot Manager or do they have to be the same?

I also want to know the answer to this question.

There is no best battery ROM. each ROM behave differently. they will give good battery for some, and bad for others.

what do you reccomend?

It's really less about the ROM, and more about the kernel you use...whether you undervolt or underclock or not, how you set up your apps, and how you use your phone. I'm using mROM at the moment, with Franco's kernel, undervolted. I just swapped kernels today, so I can't speak to the battery life just yet.
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+1 on the kernel being important for battery life.
I chose AOKP for its high customization. Lots of ROMs are as smooth, or even maybe a little smoother than AOKP, but many are just way too bare bones for me. I find AOKP to be the best package for my style, allows for nav bar control, notification control and toggles for phone features in the notication tray and many many more things. Plus, on the market there are many AOKP theme apps like Kiwi Cobalt or Purple Kush that make your phone look saaaa-weeeeeet.
And I always run Trinity kernels on my Nexus for battery life. Not sure why, but they seem to give my phone the best life. I haven't had luck with franco or other kernels in that aspect. But every phone and setup is different.
The combo I am running is the best I have found for a perfect balance between great speed and really good battery life on my phone.
Just remember to do backups. :good: The most important thing I can recommend, especially if new to flashing/custom-ing like myself.

mattwilkinson11 said:
So I am thinking that JB Roms are still in development and won't have good battery. Is there any good battery roms on ICS?
Also are there any gingerbread roms?
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I have NEVER tried this Rom.
But the Redemption Rom is supposed to be fast and have amazing battery life.
The catch is ZERO features. Just Stock. But that is why it's so fast apparently and have amazing battery.
Maybe u get to the Softkeys bar, I dunno.

Jellybean ROMs are smashing ICS in terms of battery life on the Nexus, and I think it may be a result of better RAM management. If you're just not ready to take the plunge on JB (source based ROMs are out now btw), and want a mix of customization, and battery life, CM9 may be the way to go. As for Gingerbread... hmmm... I doubt there are any ROMs available for the Nexus, and it sounds like a harsh, Benjamin Button type thing to do to such a great phone, lol.
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Here's my take on what really effects battery life:
As long as you have a ROM that doesn't malfunction and keep the phone active when it shouldn't be, all ROMs should get around the same battery life. If they don't, it's probably because you don't know about the difference in their settings - one might simply be using a more aggressive CPU governor. Even if you have a ROM that does absolutely nothing as much as possible, you are the cause of battery drain. I've tried all sorts of ROMs, and in the end, I'm the one causing battery drain. Whether it be me being sloppy and accidentally allowing too many background settings for apps, or me using more battery intensive features, I'm the one draining the battery in the end. From my experience, Stock, Liquid ICS, CM9, AOKP, Jelly Bean, Jelly Bean AOSP, any kernel you want to try, the user has the most affect on the battery life. Try adjusting your habits to improve battery life. I'm a heavy, heavy user (Sometimes with unlimited amperage from a 2.1amp charger, my phone still will die while charging.) I'm also in the Army, and when I know I will be in the field without power for extended periods of time, I change how I interact with my phone. Maybe don't overclock, even underclock/undervolt, use a more strict governor, even disable a CPU core, change Android settings to not allow ANY background apps, always turn off 4G and syncing, of course turn off BT and WiFi when not needed. I change from a user who can barely make it through the day to a user that can make it almost two. If you want something to give you better battery life without changing your habits, go buy a bigger battery or a newer phone.

Trinity 307 kernel all the way!!! Add in its conservative governor option and your conserving a lot of battery. Not to mention the kernel runs at a very low temp so your device will last well beyond the end of your 2yr contract plus it comes with a stock color mod thing that makes your gnex look amazing IMO.