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[Q] System Update unroot?

Hi im running this rom
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=741775
and i have recieved a notification for new software update (the one with better russian keyboard) and i tried downloading but it didnt work. Is it possible to do this (im rooted with unrevoked)? Also would i lose my root? i dont care if i do, im more interested in getting the new update and unrooting, thanks

yes you would lose root.
you are aware that if you install it you may never be able to root your phone again? well at least until one of the devs here finds a way.
i'm sure that update will get rooted and added to the ROMs soon if they haven't been already.
but other than that if you don't care then you should be find installing it.

i tried updating using system update, but it wouldnt work, my clockwork mod said the update failed
how can i update to this safely?
i know theres a way, do u know it?

cgrec92 said:
yes you would lose root.
you are aware that if you install it you may never be able to root your phone again? well at least until one of the devs here finds a way.
i'm sure that update will get rooted and added to the ROMs soon if they haven't been already.
but other than that if you don't care then you should be find installing it.
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It would be extremely easy to root the phone after installing this update...

adbirdie said:
i tried updating using system update, but it wouldnt work, my clockwork mod said the update failed
how can i update to this safely?
i know theres a way, do u know it?
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You shouldn't try to install OTA updates to rooted phones. It usually won't work.
If you want the new version you can either install an RUU with the official version and then root, or you can install a newer rooted stock ROM through recovery.

yaaaaa bout that im on a mac, tehehe, and i dont mind losing my root

^havent heard of an ruu working on mac

The easiest thing for you to do is install a new custom ROM that is based on the new version (mine and a couple of others).

teppic74 said:
It would be extremely easy to root the phone after installing this update...
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hence the third line of my post.

what if i just wanted the update and i didnt want my root tho?

Reboot into recovery, apply zip from sd card, toggle signature verification so its off, the update zip is downloaded to your sd cards download folder. Apply it. Then use unrevoked to root your phone again.
Sent from my HTC Desire

do i have to download the system update first, and then it will become update.zip, or is already do, can u walk me step by step through?

update: i tried what u said elmalote and it didnt work, what do i do now????

The ROM you are on has been updated with the latest OTA now so I'm not sure why you want to go another way than just flashing that ?
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the ota didnt go throught properly, i did what elmalote said, but it said installation aborted

elmalote said:
Reboot into recovery, apply zip from sd card, toggle signature verification so its off, the update zip is downloaded to your sd cards download folder. Apply it. Then use unrevoked to root your phone again.
Sent from my HTC Desire
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Is it a fully safe way to try install OTA update over the rooted ROM? I have branded ROM rooted using unrEVOked and I would like to try to install OTA update this way.

it didnt work for me, but if u try please tell me, it shouldnt screw up your phone.
does any one know how to install ota on a rooted phone

adbirdie said:
it didnt work for me, but if u try please tell me, it shouldnt screw up your phone.
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I'm not so sure about that. I've looked into OTA update downloaded into sd-card and it contains:
- system updates (new files, patches and so on)
- recovery img
- hboot update
- radio image
So let's assume that I toogle verification process (turn it off). OTA update will install over rooted ROM. After this, I have new recovery (because OTA update contains it).
I can see possibility of bricking my phone, when following situation appears:
- OS doesn't start-up (fell into boot-loop, whatever)
- recovery is back to stock, so no possibility to restore from nandroid backups
What do you think about that? Can someone confirm this is safe/dangerous?

Barthand, relax, i tried this, and i just rebooted my phone and it was fine. if you don't want to do it, then don't, but don't fret. it didn't work for me but it didn't screw up my phone either, now back to the main problem does anyone else have any solutions to install ota on a rooted phone.

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[Q] Firmware Update won't work on rooted phone

Hello,
My HTC Desire got an update today.... However, when I try to apply it, it will progress almost halfway until it shows me the little droid guy with an exclamation mark.
I am on stock Froyo currently, however I am rooted using Unrevoked3. I was told I could still update and it would even retain root in the future. However, it does not seem to be the case.
So what would my options here be?
I do wish to retain root, and I do wish to update my phone. Mainly, because I hope it will fix the WiFi issue (WiFi goes into sleep mode in lock screen, regardless of the settings, thus I can't use Skype properly.)
Any advice and/or help would really be appreciated.

You cannot apply an OTA to a rooted phone, FFS how many more times does it have to be said!?!?!?!
Look for an updated version of your custom ROM (if you're using one) or go back to stock, get the update and re-root

Well; How would i go back to stock?
Or is there a custom rom that is nothing but a rooted stock rom?

Flash the stock Rom with 2.29 update wich can be found in the dev. forum..
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App

Could you provide a link? I couldnt find it Sorry, im just new and lost

Insayne84 said:
Could you provide a link? I couldnt find it Sorry, im just new and lost
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shouldn't be to hard to find.. but still..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=773997

EddyOS said:
You cannot apply an OTA to a rooted phone, FFS how many more times does it have to be said!?!?!?!
Look for an updated version of your custom ROM (if you're using one) or go back to stock, get the update and re-root
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IVS IVRIS said:
shouldn't be to hard to find.. but still..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=773997
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since when did we become so intolerant to new members guys?? keep in mind there was a time when none of us knew that you couldnt flash ota's with a custom recovery. someone had to tell us all

Flash the update again it should work. But I'd use an RUU and get back to stock.

Updated Rooted Device - Constant Reboot

Hi,
I need quick help. I unthinkably installed accepted to install a OTA update (2.29.405.5) on my Stock HTC ROM, forgetting that I had rooted my phone and the update was unsuccessful telling me that 'E:failed to verify whole- file signature'. Could someone tell me what to do next.
Thank you in advance.

Deeco7 said:
Hi,
I need quick help. I unthinkably installed accepted to install a OTA update (2.29.405.5) on my Stock HTC ROM, forgetting that I had rooted my phone and the update was unsuccessful telling me that 'E:failed to verify whole- file signature'. Could someone tell me what to do next.
Thank you in advance.
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If you can boot into recovery, then wipe all data & restore the latest nandroid backup you had.
If you can't then install an Official HTC RUU ROM (but after that you need to root it again).

The OTA will have replaced the recovery so that can't be done. Flash the 2.29.405.5 RUU, root again and then restore the last nandroid you did

nagypapi said:
If you can boot into recovery, then wipe all data & restore the latest nandroid backup you had.
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Brilliant! +1.
One more thing: Can you direct me to a guide to updating rooted device?

Deeco7 said:
Brilliant! +1.
One more thing: Can you direct me to a guide to updating rooted device?
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A rooted device?
1. You update it manually from a .zip file, but then you have to ROOT it again.
I do not reccomend this one, because it can cause bootloops, or simply just won't work (depends on many factors).
2. Flash a custom ROM (even pre-rooted custom stock ROMs are on the site). A full list of ROMs can be found here.

As you've just found out, you can't update a rooted stock ROM so you answered your own question

Can I un-root then update OTA and then re-root, or will that cause problems too?

You can't unroot without flashing an RUU so you might as well flash the 2.29.405.5 RUU and then root that

Wow, what a headache. Is there anything else besides 'automatic download to sd card of apps' that has changed in this update that is worth flashing to?
If I decide to go ahead. Will I be able to use my nandroid backup?

Deeco7 said:
Wow, what a headache. Is there anything else besides 'automatic download to sd card of apps' that has changed in this update that is worth flashing to?
If I decide to go ahead. Will I be able to use my nandroid backup?
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This is what I've found (no changelog tough):
The first positive HTC Desire firmware change is that apps are now installed directly to the SD card for downloading, and I no longer go through the hassle of downloading and then move.
A couple of minor negative:
- The HTC Desire live wallpaper you can get “stuck”. By this I mean that if you use the stock HTC wallpaper live and go to the big screen to the left, a dark blue, to launch an app is a widget, then do not go back directly to the main page, the wall paper will continue to live on the left side of the Most of the screens (ie, that home screen is a darker blue). It looks cool when it happens.
- This HTC Desire update configures the application to sync kits. Just disable it again, then everything is fine.
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And you can use your nandroid backup (when you restore - it will use the previous version not this new one).

nagypapi said:
(when you restore - it will use the previous version not this new one).
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Sorry, I didn't understand this clearly, could you clarify.

I mean if you restore that it will overwrite the RUU version you want to flash.

Oh okay, I think I will stay with '2.29.405.2' for now, not worth updating or the hassle. Thanks both for the help.

Just wanted to know if there is an alternative way to back up apps and data when I choose to upgrade to latest firmware, and not have to worry about compatiblity or fw version. Thanks.

[Q] disable OTA-Updates?

Hello,
following situation: I have 4.1.1 installed on my Nexus and also CWM running on it. As you may know an update won't work with CWM. At the moment I'm too busy to update to 4.1.2 but my phone keeps annoyingly telling me that there is an update available...
ROM: stock rooted
How do I disable this?
thanks a lot!
M

Google!
http://www.chargeforums.com/forum/d...s-ota-update-very-easy-but-requires-root.html

Mehrsau said:
Hello,
following situation: I have 4.1.1 installed on my Nexus and also CWM running on it. As you may know an update won't work with CWM.
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That's not totally correct. OTA updates will work fine with CWM, just not automatically. When you get the notification you can just reboot into CWM and flash the update zip (it's in /cache).
I realize you were asking about not getting nagged until you have a chance to update, but I thought I'd mention this anyway in case it helps when you do have time to update.

phazerorg said:
That's not totally correct. OTA updates will work fine with CWM, just not automatically. When you get the notification you can just reboot into CWM and flash the update zip (it's in /cache).
I realize you were asking about not getting nagged until you have a chance to update, but I thought I'd mention this anyway in case it helps when you do have time to update.
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So that works?! I'll give it a try! Thanks for this information!
Edit: Unfortunately it's not working :/ I copied the zip into a folder of my SD card and tried to apply the zip with CWM... not working.

On a related topic, I'm a cheapskate and would like to get OTA updates via wifi instead of using my data plan.
Can I stop the OTA downloading until I accept it?

Mehrsau said:
So that works?! I'll give it a try! Thanks for this information!
Edit: Unfortunately it's not working :/ I copied the zip into a folder of my SD card and tried to apply the zip with CWM... not working.
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Unfortunately just saying "it's not working" doesn't really give me much to go on, so I can't really offer any advice other than to make sure you have signature verification turned off in CWM. It definitely works because I've done it lots of times myself. If you can provide any details on what's actually happening I can try to help further.
Also, make sure you use some method to keep root... either something like OTA RootKeeper, or just flash SuperSU (or whatever your favourite superuser is) after the update.

Ota 5.28.605.2 ota

Just got it on my htc one... for use on stock rom/stock recovery....
https://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=23622183712466856
RUU coming too
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2867643

Can I use the zip u provided to update? I'm totally stock. S-on. On 4.4.2. And how to do it it's been years for me. Thought I needed a .pmg file?

rickyjohn said:
Can I use the zip u provided to update? I'm totally stock. S-on. On 4.4.2. And how to do it it's been years for me. Thought I needed a .pmg file?
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If you are s-on, you can't flash anything custom or stock. You will need to root and s-off first. Or you could take the ota if all you want is the update. If you want to get some customization on there...you should do some reading through the threads. Things are a bit different since a few years ago and this phone doesn't have an external sd card...
Sent from my Lunar Ecliptic One.

rickyjohn said:
Can I use the zip u provided to update? I'm totally stock. S-on. On 4.4.2. And how to do it it's been years for me. Thought I needed a .pmg file?
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First link is 100% stock and will work on stock recovery. Just place it on the phone storage or SD and boot to stock recovery. Choose the appropriate "apply update from" and then point to that file.
brymaster5000 said:
If you are s-on, you can't flash anything custom or stock. You will need to root and s-off first. Or you could take the ota if all you want is the update. If you want to get some customization on there...you should do some reading through the threads. Things are a bit different since a few years ago and this phone doesn't have an external sd card...
Sent from my Lunar Ecliptic One.
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every time i try to get into the recovery menu i just get a picture of the phone with a red triangle and exclamation point.

Any idea if towelroot works with this update? I noticed that the update notes on the vzw website says "Device root vulnerability issue has been resolved"
Sent from my HTC6500LVW using Tapatalk

rickyjohn said:
every time i try to get into the recovery menu i just get a picture of the phone with a red triangle and exclamation point.
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That is your stock recovery. Stock recovery is not meant to go into like custom ones. It's used for ota's, factory resets, and that's about it.
Sent from my Lunar Ecliptic One.

got "invalid operation" when trying to update with the zip file, it is on device storage, any ideas? does the zip need to be renamed?

rickyjohn said:
got "invalid operation" when trying to update with the zip file, it is on device storage, any ideas? does the zip need to be renamed?
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When flashing an OTA everything has to be bone stock. If you have stock tethering enabled, Xposed Framework installed, or files missing from /system/apps, it will fail.

That's a bummer. I'm totally stock. Just changed fonts, that's it. Guess it just won't go. thanks

I restored stock recovery and stock hotspot and the OTA still won't install properly -- I'm not sure what I'm missing. Is there any way to flash the OTA when rooted without wiping my phone?

Ovy13 said:
I restored stock recovery and stock hotspot and the OTA still won't install properly -- I'm not sure what I'm missing. Is there any way to flash the OTA when rooted without wiping my phone?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2485319
Flash in trwp the full odex ROM. I don't know if updating via ota while rooted will work. I know unlock and s-off doesn't matter from personal experience.
Sent from my One using XDA Free mobile app

Uzephi said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2485319
Flash in trwp the full odex ROM. I don't know if updating via ota while rooted will work. I know unlock and s-off doesn't matter from personal experience.
Sent from my One using XDA Free mobile app
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In the past, simply restoring stock recovery, updating normally, and then flashing a custom recovery was enough. Doesn't seem to work this time, or there's simply some customization I've forgotten about.

If I'm not mistaken, just the presence of the su binary can be enough to abort an official ota. If you have the official OTA zip and attempt flashing through the stock recovery and it fails, the error message should give some indication of the problem. The script runs a check on the contents of /system and if anything is off it will fail.

pastorbennett said:
If I'm not mistaken, just the presence of the su binary can be enough to abort an official ota. If you have the official OTA zip and attempt flashing through the stock recovery and it fails, the error message should give some indication of the problem. The script runs a check on the contents of /system and if anything is off it will fail.
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Su is fine. It simply won't work afterwords. Any other system changes will cause it to fail though.

dottat said:
Su is fine. It simply won't work afterwords. Any other system changes will cause it to fail though.
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So I have TWRP, root, s-off, and XPosed installed. Verizon sent me the OTA update, but I need to return everything to stock before I do anything with the update? I'm a little dense here...

PiperCub49 said:
So I have TWRP, root, s-off, and XPosed installed. Verizon sent me the OTA update, but I need to return everything to stock before I do anything with the update? I'm a little dense here...
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Disable xposed. Flash stock recovery and take the ota. Then flash custom recovery via Fastboot and flash su.zip in Twrp.
Assuming of course you made no other /system mods other than root and xposed.