We need to determine whats bricking our phones when flashing/using ICS ROMS. I'm pretty sure it has something to do with the kernel and the way things are handled with partitions in the recoveries.
I bricked coming from GB to ICS, after I went from ICS to GB using a NANDROID. Also used Mobile Odin to flash el26 recovery. This is the jist of it, anyone have a similar story?
i NEVER bricked because i ALWAYS follow the rules.
ODIN EL26 Kernel (http://bit.ly/xL3kvm), reboot directly into recovery on auto-reboot (vol up + power), Flash CM9 .zip.. Flash GApps .zip.. Wipe Data... Reboot
autoprime said:
i NEVER bricked because i ALWAYS follow the rules.
ODIN EL26 Kernel (http://bit.ly/xL3kvm), reboot directly into recovery on auto-reboot (vol up + power), Flash CM9 .zip.. Flash GApps .zip.. Wipe Data... Reboot
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;D Funny thing is I did all that after I flashed it with mobile odin. still bricked, and you were told how step by step
Way back in 1942 I had me one of them new Samsung Epic 4G Touch kinda phones. I did me a flash using Heimdall Frontend with that there "Repartition" square all checked and low and behold I got me a nice fancy blue light when I tried to get that phone all powered on. Well, I learned something that day.The next day I was getting me a new one for sure! Well, I did just that and have been very careful cuz them phones ain't cheap. But, since the new FB and FC ICS leaks have been dripping down the pipes I have been flashing like a mad man. I have flashed everything Calkulin has released, Heimdall bad kernels to the device, tried agat's nice little ROM, push and pull files, torn apart kernels and put them together wrong and tried them on the device and you name it, unless the name is switching between Gingerbread and Ice Cream Sandwich. I have had kernel panics, File System panics and other people have panicked. I did get a scare once when I wiped data/system reset and couldn't boot. I push a good kernel and flashed another ROM toot sweet! I have not bricked it again for the life of me. Mr_Milenko asked me to share this I suppose as a success story amidst all the stories and rumors about why this device is bricking. Honestly, I can only speculate. Since it's not a problem that can be reproduced and recovered from we can't just perma-brick devices to run expermients so we have to really think about what we're doing now. We don't even know at this point if an OTA is going to be safer than the leaks of the problem isn't known to samsung. Once we have source we can look for weaknesses in the it. Until then maybe a thread with exact step leading up to the bricking might help others avoid some patterns of destruction. If you say you have ended up with the Blu Light of Death (BLD, cuz we loves acronyms) give as many technical details as possible, including what versions of rom and kernel you are coming from, what methods and versions of tools you may have used to flash/push/etc, and what version you were attempting to flash. If you wanna speculate, at least put the details in a separate paragraph so the devs can see the facts clearly.
Good Luck Y'all!
I'm hearing people of bricking using Mobile odin, I would just play it safe and use my pc to odin. I really wish this would get sorted out. I never had to worry about bricking on my evo4g, now that's all I hear about flashing in ics
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paranoid android85 said:
I'm hearing people of bricking using Mobile odin, I would just play it safe and use my pc to odin. I really wish this would get sorted out. I never had to worry about bricking on my evo4g, now that's all I hear about flashing in ics
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Next phone, definitely sticking with PC. I know its not any devs fault, but I'm sure Samsung changed some major ****.. Theirs no way to tell without source though.
What's bricking phones? Not wiping data and not using a stable recovery...
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I was gonna say using mobile Odin was probably what caused the brick, but then I'll get a slew of people defending Mo'din. PC odin every time man, I've tried damn near all the ICS builds and feel using the PC to restore the EL29 rooted one click restore then sfhub one click CWM push is the safest way to avoid any complications. It takes a whole five minutes and no worries.
Mr_Milenko said:
We need to determine whats bricking our phones when flashing/using ICS ROMS. I'm pretty sure it has something to do with the kernel and the way things are handled with partitions in the recoveries.
I bricked coming from GB to ICS, after I went from ICS to GB using a NANDROID. Also used Mobile Odin to flash el26 recovery. This is the jist of it, anyone have a similar story?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1509795
Mattix724 said:
What's bricking phones? Not wiping data and not using a stable recovery...
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Not wiping data and not using a stable recovery? I wiped data, and I was on EL26.
Can anyone direct me to a full Odin tar a pit file so i can try and repartition my phone via odin?
krazyflipj said:
Can anyone direct me to a full Odin tar a pit file so i can try and repartition my phone via odin?
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Look at resource #A2 in the 2nd post of this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1433101
When you unpack you'll have ODIN, the pit file, and the tar.md5 file
sfhub said:
Look at resource #A2 in the 2nd post of this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1433101
When you unpack you'll have ODIN, the pit file, and the tar.md5 file
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Hopefully this works. I wiped data while on a cm9 build using its version of CWM. Hopefully I can repartition via odin using pit and tar file. Will keep you guys updated.
krazyflipj said:
Hopefully this works. I wiped data while on a cm9 build using its version of CWM. Hopefully I can repartition via odin using pit and tar file. Will keep you guys updated.
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Not to burst your bubble and you should try anyway, but if you are in the situation where your data partition is not writable, people who have tried repartitioning with ODIN found it didn't fix the problem. Even JTAG has not been able to fix the problem, so the conclusion of most people is there is a hardware issue that was caused by a software operation with incompatible kernel and recovery.
sfhub said:
Not to burst your bubble and you should try anyway, but if you are in the situation where your data partition is not writable, people who have tried repartitioning with ODIN found it didn't fix the problem. Even JTAG has not been able to fix the problem, so the conclusion of most people is there is a hardware issue that was caused by a software operation with incompatible kernel and recovery.
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Figured so but at this point I got nothing to lose lol
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Figured so but at this point I got nothing to lose lol
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The subjects of eFuses even came up.. Could there be undocumented hardware information that we don't know about? So many possibilities its really irritating.
Related
I just need a link or some information on how to install cyanogenmod 9 from EL29, I'm currently running Calkulin's EL29 v3.0, and then I was wondering how do I come back from ICS without bricking?
I'd appreciate the response so i don't screw up my wonderful new phone! ^^
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Always check stickies.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1525495
Nabbu said:
I just need a link or some information on how to install cyanogenmod 9 from EL29, I'm currently running Calkulin's EL29 v3.0, and then I was wondering how do I come back from ICS without bricking?
I'd appreciate the response so i don't screw up my wonderful new phone! ^^
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http://e4gtcm.blogspot.com/p/cm9-install-guide.html?m=1
To go back to GB just flash the EL26 kernel with CWM through Odin. When rebooting hold power + volume up until it boots into recovery and flash from there.
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FYI - OP on the CM9 page for the rom the very first post has it notated that for the CM9 install guide which is the link that has been posted above. I commend you on being careful but just so you know this forum has more than enough info in it to ensure you do everything correct and minimize your chances of bricking..
http://e4gtcm.blogspot.com/p/cm9-install-guide.html?m=1
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1525495
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1504808
Just a few links which have helped me stay away from issues to date..
nitro_c4 said:
http://e4gtcm.blogspot.com/p/cm9-install-guide.html?m=1
To go back to GB just flash the EL26 kernel with CWM through Odin. When rebooting hold power + volume up until it boots into recovery and flash from there.
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I've heard to odin just the el26 kernel + cwm and also the whole el26 rom before flashing ICS, more specifically the AOsP variations so which is it? Or which is safer? It would kind of make sense to Odin the whole rom to restore a gb nandroid. There's just so many conflicting methods its cornfuzzling
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-EViL-KoNCEPTz- said:
I've heard to odin just the el26 kernel + cwm and also the whole el26 rom before flashing ICS, more specifically the AOsP variations so which is it? Or which is safer? It would kind of make sense to Odin the whole rom to restore a gb nandroid. There's just so many conflicting methods its cornfuzzling
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No not really conflicting if you look at them slowly. Its basically get back to a GB kernel at the end of the day. They say to odin it since you do not want to or have any other way to get a GB kernel on your phone if you are on ICS. Now you could flash from ICS but that is what people are trying to avoid since it could cause a brick.
Basically: When on ICS
1. Odin a GB CWM recovery(now others have used EL29 and Rogue recoveries as well) I personally use a stock CWM recovery from CM7 and Miui
2. From there you can wipe and flash and do nandroids as normal.
Option: Safest bet
1. One Click Odin your choice of any of the GB stock roms by sfhub
I have used both methods so far with no problems. I had CM9 on my phone then used odin to go back to the recovery used with CM7 and then I nandroid back my UnNamed Rom. I did this a few times without issue. I have never heard of any issues with anyone using any of the above two methods I mentioned. If someone has please inform us
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No not really conflicting if you look at them slowly. Its basically get back to a GB kernel at the end of the day. They say to odin it since you do not want to or have any other way to get a GB kernel on your phone if you are on ICS. Now you could flash from ICS but that is what people are trying to avoid since it could cause a brick.
Basically: When on ICS
1. Odin a GB CWM recovery(now others have used EL29 and Rogue recoveries as well) I personally use a stock CWM recovery from CM7 and Miui
2. From there you can wipe and flash and do nandroids as normal.
Option: Safest bet
1. One Click Odin your choice of any of the GB stock roms by sfhub
I have used both methods so far with no problems. I had CM9 on my phone then used odin to go back to the recovery used with CM7 and then I nandroid back my UnNamed Rom. I did this a few times without issue. I have never heard of any issues with anyone using any of the above two methods I mentioned. If someone has please inform us
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I was more confused about whether to Odin(mobileodin) just the kernel + cwm or the entire rom, all the install instructions say Odin kernel with cwm(usually el26) which is what I'm using for ics, I use rogue gunslinger for GB, but then I've seen ppl say to Odin the entire rom before restoring/upgrading/changing roms so i was like
Wtf which is it do I Odin the kernel or the whole rom when i upgrade :-| I've been trying to figure that out for a cpl days b4 I upgrade my AOKP to build 31, cuz I really don't want a paperweight
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-EViL-KoNCEPTz- said:
I was more confused about whether to Odin(mobileodin) just the kernel + cwm or the entire rom, all the install instructions say Odin kernel with cwm(usually el26) which is what I'm using for ics, I use rogue gunslinger for GB, but then I've seen ppl say to Odin the entire rom before restoring/upgrading/changing roms so i was like
Wtf which is it do I Odin the kernel or the whole rom when i upgrade :-| I've been trying to figure that out for a cpl days b4 I upgrade my AOKP to build 31, cuz I really don't want a paperweight
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I've searched around and I don't know how to just odin a kernel, so I use sfhubs one-click back to el26 then I use autoroot to install el26 +cwm.
I would like to just odin a kernel and flash from there, but i am unsure of the procedure, do you do this:
phone to download mode and connect to odin, use PDA slot and browse to kernel, hit start or GO or whatever it is, then when it starts to reboot, pwr+vlm up to get into recovery, then get my flash on from there?
I use mobile Odin for the kernel alone but I believe in PC Odin you can just select PDA and choose the kernel. Tar and flash it that way then when it starts to reboot either catch the volume up + power on the splash screen or do like I do and snatch the battery real quick and the boot to recovery, everytime I try to hit it while its rebooting Im too slow
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-EViL-KoNCEPTz- said:
I use mobile Odin for the kernel alone but I believe in PC Odin you can just select PDA and choose the kernel. Tar and flash it that way then when it starts to reboot either catch the volume up + power on the splash screen or do like I do and snatch the battery real quick and the boot to recovery, everytime I try to hit it while its rebooting Im too slow
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I havent used mobile odin, but I hear nothing but good things, so I think I am gonna grab it and try it out. That way I wont need to be at a PC to get my flash on.
With mobile odin, do I keep the kernel on my sdcard, same place I put roms and such? And when using mobile odin, if the file is *.tar.md5, do I remove the .md5 from the file name first? Do I use the flash firmware option?
I've done this at least 25 times recently; so easy, I'll post instructions here again.
1. get Mobile Odin(time saver to the max)
2. Get EL26 kernel (TAR version)
3. flash EL26 kernel in Mobile Odin (takes 10 seconds)
4. Boot into recovery(you will have the proper one now!)
5. Flash away
if you do this either coming from A GB rom to ICS, or going back to one, Guaranteed success...
Simple as can be; not sure why this keeps getting asked.....
The kernel is 8.1 mb, which exceeds the attachment size, so I can't post it here, but its all over this forum..
krook250 said:
I havent used mobile odin, but I hear nothing but good things, so I think I am gonna grab it and try it out. That way I wont need to be at a PC to get my flash on.
With mobile odin, do I keep the kernel on my sdcard, same place I put roms and such? And when using mobile odin, if the file is *.tar.md5, do I remove the .md5 from the file name first? Do I use the flash firmware option?
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Yea u can keep em in a folder on internal SD that's what I do and just open the location it will find all tar files in that location then just select and follow directions, mOdin works really good its quick and no flash counter in crease or yellow triangle. Its alot easier to flash ics than having to go to the PC cuz u can just Odin el26+cwm kernel boot to recovery and get ur flash on without all the hassle of drivers and connecting a USB etc
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Yea u can keep em in a folder on internal SD that's what I do and just open the location it will find all tar files in that location then just select and follow directions, mOdin works really good its quick and no flash counter in crease or yellow triangle. Its alot easier to flash ics than having to go to the PC cuz u can just Odin el26+cwm kernel boot to recovery and get ur flash on without all the hassle of drivers and connecting a USB etc
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sweet thanks, gonna grab the app and go grab the kernel as well. can't wait!!!
If I just cut my 30 min. flashing time down to 10 mins, that means I can flash 3x more, frick yeah!! Now I just need the new cna to drop so I can flash that girl.
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I've done this at least 25 times recently; so easy, I'll post instructions here again.
1. get Mobile Odin(time saver to the max)
2. Get EL26 kernel (TAR version)
3. flash EL26 kernel in Mobile Odin (takes 10 seconds)
4. Boot into recovery(you will have the proper one now!)
5. Flash away
if you do this either coming from A GB rom to ICS, or going back to one, Guaranteed success...
Simple as can be; not sure why this keeps getting asked.....
The kernel is 8.1 mb, which exceeds the attachment size, so I can't post it here, but its all over this forum..
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My question was for when going back to gb from ics if I needed to Odin the whole rom, I had seen both kernel+cwm only and whole rom and just wanted to make sure if I just flashed the kernel only I'd be OK more for clarification than an actual how to for me since I know how to Odin both, just wanted to make sure I was odining the right things b4 I jumped and landed on a brick after I had seen someone say to Odin the whole rom I wanted to be sure I was doing it right since I had seen both ways mentioned. Its a little more confusing than my damn evo where I'm always on the same recovery no matter what, and a bit scary with the bricks flying around like a construction site filled with monkeys on meth
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-EViL-KoNCEPTz- said:
My question was for when going back to gb from ics if I needed to Odin the whole rom, I had seen both kernel+cwm only and whole rom and just wanted to make sure if I just flashed the kernel only I'd be OK more for clarification than an actual how to for me since I know how to Odin both, just wanted to make sure I was odining the right things b4 I jumped and landed on a brick after I had seen someone say to Odin the whole rom I wanted to be sure I was doing it right since I had seen both ways mentioned. Its a little more confusing than my damn evo where I'm always on the same recovery no matter what, and a bit scary with the bricks flying around like a construction site filled with monkeys on meth
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[email protected] monkeys on Meth!!!
Yeah, flashing with this phone is different from the htc stuff, but once you get the hang of it, its just as easy!
wase4711 said:
[email protected] monkeys on Meth!!!
Yeah, flashing with this phone is different from the htc stuff, but once you get the hang of it, its just as easy!
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Yea ur post cleared it up for me, just gets confusing when. Theres multiple methods recommended I was 99% sure I just needed to Odin the kernel only but wanted the clarification before I jumped off that bridge, not too comfortable jumping off a bridge when I'm not sure how deep the water is
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well, like the asshole who pushed me in the deep end of the pool when I was 12 and didn't know how to swim told me, "figure it out or else", sometimes you gotta just go for it!!
Actually, I am nervous too when I try something new the first time, but, once you figure out who really knows what they are talking about, its easy to just pm them and ask them how they do it..
You obviously know your stuff man, so you will be an expert with this phone in no time!!
I did this going from Blazer 4.1 to CM9 with out any issues.
wase4711 said:
I've done this at least 25 times recently; so easy, I'll post instructions here again.
1. get Mobile Odin(time saver to the max)
2. Get EL26 kernel (TAR version)
3. flash EL26 kernel in Mobile Odin (takes 10 seconds)
4. Boot into recovery(you will have the proper one now!)
5. Flash away
if you do this either coming from A GB rom to ICS, or going back to one, Guaranteed success...
Simple as can be; not sure why this keeps getting asked.....
The kernel is 8.1 mb, which exceeds the attachment size, so I can't post it here, but its all over this forum..
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Quick question.. I can flash EL26 kernel again in mobile odin and should be able to restore my Blazer backup without any issues, correct? Blazer was backed up using Rogue EL29 kernel. Thanks!
Plus there's 5 android devices in my house all with different flashing methods it gets confusing keeping em all straight, got the evo4g, et4g, kindle fire, MoPho, and a gNote the et4g is the first Sammy I've used with Odin, my first android was an intercrap I mean intercept and it used the patched swupdater instead of Odin, so I'm still getting the hang of this method. I can flash the evo, kindle, intercept and photon blindfolded and drunker than a slut on prom night
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Nico^APEX said:
I did this going from Blazer 4.1 to CM9 with out any issues.
Quick question.. I can flash EL26 kernel again in mobile odin and should be able to restore my Blazer backup without any issues, correct? Blazer was backed up using Rogue EL29 kernel. Thanks!
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yes sir, that is correct!
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-EViL-KoNCEPTz- said:
Plus there's 5 android devices in my house all with different flashing methods it gets confusing keeping em all straight, got the evo4g, et4g, kindle fire, MoPho, and a gNote the et4g is the first Sammy I've used with Odin, my first android was an intercrap I mean intercept and it used the patched swupdater instead of Odin, so I'm still getting the hang of this method. I can flash the evo, kindle, intercept and photon blindfolded and drunker than a slut on prom night
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I don't know how you keep all that **** straight; in my house, we ALL go with one "brand" of product, just to avoid that nightmare!!
If someone doesn't like it, I tell them that they get no tech support from me if they don't go with "the flow"!
I'm someone, like others I've saw, that are coming over here from the EVO 3d after having to go through asurion.
As a good XDA member, I read through the stickies.
I wanted to confirm what I've learned.
ICS for you guys is rather different. I'm seeing many versions of ICS, I'm guessing leaks at different stages (haven't seen many leaks on phones in a while).
I also saw that wipe in custom recoveries is a REALLY bad idea.
In fact it said not to use custom recoveries with ICS stuff.
So why does Calkulin's E4GT rom say you MUST use a custom recovery?
I thought I saw something crazy that said it depends what version you are on for the method you root. But I can't find that again. It seems weird, but please tell me that's wrong and there's only one way to really root.
karate134 said:
I'm someone, like others I've saw, that are coming over here from the EVO 3d after having to go through asurion.
As a good XDA member, I read through the stickies.
I wanted to confirm what I've learned.
ICS for you guys is rather different. I'm seeing many versions of ICS, I'm guessing leaks at different stages (haven't seen many leaks on phones in a while).
I also saw that wipe in custom recoveries is a REALLY bad idea.
In fact it said not to use custom recoveries with ICS stuff.
So why does Calkulin's E4GT rom say you MUST use a custom recovery?
I thought I saw something crazy that said it depends what version you are on for the method you root. But I can't find that again. It seems weird, but please tell me that's wrong and there's only one way to really root.
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You have to use a specific recovery to flash stuff, called the EL26/29 recovery. It's based on 5.0.2.7 (?) of ClockWorkMod recovery. This is generally accepted as the safest way to flash. Flashing from an ICS based recovery has been known to brick devices.
Samsung devices have Odin, much like HTC devices have Fastboot. We're able to put the device in Odin (download) mode and flash just about anything. There's even an app version called Mobile Odin that allows you to Odin flash directly from the phone without having to plug in.
Correct me if wrong but i think there is only an issue with ics recovery when wiping due to the emmc bug (partition corruption). Thats whats causing the bricks. There are plenty workarounds though. I use ics recovery to flash things, i just make sure to never wipe anything using the recovery. I use calk's format all zip and modified format zip whenever i need to wipe.
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Correct me if wrong but i think there is only an issue with ics recovery when wiping due to the emmc bug (partition corruption). Thats whats causing the bricks. There are plenty workarounds though. I use ics recovery to flash things, i just make sure to never wipe anything using the recovery. I use calk's format all zip and modified format zip whenever i need to wipe.
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Correct they have come up with ways to use ICS recovery to update and flash certain things. Honestly since the OP is new to Epic Touch I would stick with the very simply odin of el26 recovery and flashing anything you need while in ICS.
agat's threads have great info if you are a stock software guy with ways to flash and upgrade while on ICS. Honestly GB is pretty damn polished and there are some awfully nice roms for it as well and you have no worries at all with how you flash. sfhub has quite a few threads with his odin one click methods which have been a god sent for a lot of us here.
First decide what you want to do then any one of the OP's will direct you in the right direction. Also if you can read up on the How not to brick your phone threads/stickies in general I believe
Would be a better idea to use the cm9 direct boot Odin file. Much easier than pulling the battery 10 times. Read all the release notes on the cm9 wiki and you'll have safe flashing.
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Rooster-just curious, why would you need to pull the battery? I've flashed plenty of roms and haven't had to pull the battery once...
Karate-the easiest easy to just gain root access is to use sfhub's one click rooted el29-just boot into download mode (vol up + power), plug into the computer and click start...easy peasy
And as playya said, the OP's of any of the rom threads all have great info and directions to keep you flashing safely. Good luck and happy flashing!
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Sunsparc said:
You have to use a specific recovery to flash stuff, called the EL26/29 recovery. It's based on 5.0.2.7 (?) of ClockWorkMod recovery. This is generally accepted as the safest way to flash. Flashing from an ICS based recovery has been known to brick devices.
Samsung devices have Odin, much like HTC devices have Fastboot. We're able to put the device in Odin (download) mode and flash just about anything. There's even an app version called Mobile Odin that allows you to Odin flash directly from the phone without having to plug in.
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Can you a link to el2? Recovery
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1416477
Check this thread out, make sure to read all the directions and you should be able to find the auto root package where you can add cwm recovery to the kernel
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karate134 said:
I'm someone, like others I've saw, that are coming over here from the EVO 3d after having to go through asurion.
As a good XDA member, I read through the stickies.
I wanted to confirm what I've learned.
ICS for you guys is rather different. I'm seeing many versions of ICS, I'm guessing leaks at different stages (haven't seen many leaks on phones in a while).
I also saw that wipe in custom recoveries is a REALLY bad idea.
In fact it said not to use custom recoveries with ICS stuff.
So why does Calkulin's E4GT rom say you MUST use a custom recovery?
I thought I saw something crazy that said it depends what version you are on for the method you root. But I can't find that again. It seems weird, but please tell me that's wrong and there's only one way to really root.
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Im one of those that went through insurance too and ended up with this today and i gotta say I love it!
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im also coming over from the evo4g and evo3d not because of insurance wanted something different and im loving the phone so far..i will say i was lost at first with odin and el29 its a different way of doin stuff but not hard at all
Welcome, I recently made the switch as well. The screen is incredible after looking at the E3D for so long. Seriously, I stop to look at how pretty it is at least once every day.
SkuzFoz said:
Welcome, I recently made the switch as well. The screen is incredible after looking at the E3D for so long. Seriously, I stop to look at how pretty it is at least once every day.
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Yup! It truly is amazing!
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Wanted to try another ICS Rom. Jumping from phone to phone. I guess I missed something. Lol. I got a little carried away.
So I was running the Calkulin's ICS with EL29 + CWM Rogue...
Reading the AOKP first page... said go to EL26.
So I proceeded to EL26 using this... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1342728
Tired to boot into recovery and start up the phone but it just sits on the SII screen. Did I do something?
So now I am back to here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1433101
Got it back up and running and restored my last back up. Wah wah.
Was the EL26 a ODIN process or something I was to flash in recovery? Was I to flash the whole phone to EL26 and not just the boot? Would it be safe to just flash AOKP from EL29+Rogue?
OP said go back to el26 cwm recovery because that is a know safe GB recovery safe to wipe and flash in. So odin the el26 cwm recovery in Odin and then flash AOKP ad Gapps from there.
slick_rick said:
OP said go back to el26 cwm recovery because that is a know safe GB recovery safe to wipe and flash in. So odin the el26 cwm recovery in Odin and then flash AOKP ad Gapps from there.
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Could someone link it?
I can only find the modem.
Dude dont mess with that unless you know what your doing or have TEP.
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I would hold off on playing the ICS shuffle game until the community and samsung has a good grasp on the bricking situation.
LeKtRiCzzz said:
Dude dont mess with that unless you know what your doing or have TEP.
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I've owned every smart phone on Sprint and owned multiple devices on T-Mobile.
I don't know it all, but I'm here to learn. I need to figure it out. Lol.
It bricked and I recovered. Just looking for direction on where to locate a file at this point since I couldn't find it.
I've been through this situation a couple times on other devices. Got a little ahead of myself again and just digging for answers.
TEP wouldn't cover any of this since it's all caused by the end user.
Thanks for the other above posts. I shall stick around on one rom and it's revisions until something happens.
chrischoi said:
I've owned every smart phone on Sprint and owned multiple devices on T-Mobile.
I don't know it all, but I'm here to learn. I need to figure it out. Lol.
It bricked and I recovered. Just looking for direction on where to locate a file at this point since I couldn't find it.
I've been through this situation a couple times on other devices. Got a little ahead of myself again and just digging for answers.
TEP wouldn't cover any of this since it's all caused by the end user.
Thanks for the other above posts. I shall stick around on one rom and it's revisions until something happens.
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U can flash to things safely, just have the right software. Keep el26 cmw kernel tar thats found on rwilco12's kernel repository on ur phone for mobile Odin and on ur PC for regular Odin and you'll be OK. Of course things will change as source rolls out but that's been the tried and true method til meow. Meow what I'm saying?
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chrischoi said:
Could someone link it?
I can only find the modem.
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http://chris41g.devphone.org/EpicTouch/Stock Repack/EL26/StockCWM-EL26.tar.md5 Flash in Odin and then flash AOKP and Gapps from that recovery.
RandallOfLegend said:
I would hold off on playing the ICS shuffle game until the community and samsung has a good grasp on the bricking situation.
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The community has a very good grasp on the bricking situation. Experienced devs like chris41g and dees_troy have made safe recoveries to wipe and flash in. You must have been gone for awhile lol.
I have been riding the stable ROM train for a little too long
So five months ago after an error with AOKP my first E4GT resulted bricked and I had to buy another... now I am on the GS3 but then I found that it could be solved so I fixed it and left it in CM9...now I want to use it iPod style but because of the changing of the memory and the reduction to only 8 gb I don't know if it is safe to try the new FK09 without a problem or if something is needed
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Sounds like you had a corrupted data partition and you were able to flash a custom pit file to work around the bad blocks...
If you try to Odin FK09 it will flash a stock pit file and those bad blocks may cause the issue you were already facing... if it even lets you Odin the tar.
You could however flash a custom JB ROM and keep your current pit file and work around the bad blocks.
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So five months ago after an error with AOKP my first E4GT resulted bricked and I had to buy another... now I am on the GS3 but then I found that it could be solved so I fixed it and left it in CM9...now I want to use it iPod style but because of the changing of the memory and the reduction to only 8 gb I don't know if it is safe to try the new EK09 without a problem or if something is needed
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.tar.md5 files are available for FK09. Use one of those along with the modified .PIT file that you have in Odin and you should be ready to try it out. Having said that, I believe you're the first person to inform that they're trying JB after triggering the bug so you're wading into uncharted territory. Please post updates if you go through with it!
Yeah I really never saw anyone flashing anything after the brick era and left them in CM9 but that FK09 sounds so tempting, specially because I wouldn't have the bugs cause it would be technically an iPod.
But I was thinking that I need a safe recovery to flash cause I'm almost certain this cm 9 recovery will be sure to corrupt another 8 gigs so if I flash EL29 or 26 I'm safe about the pit file right?! Then I can flash one of the rooted zips in the development area and it'll be done right?!
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Yeah I really never saw anyone flashing anything after the brick era and left them in CM9 but that EK09 sounds so tempting, specially because I wouldn't have the bugs cause it would be technically an iPod.
But I was thinking that I need a safe recovery to flash cause I'm almost certain this cm 9 recovery will be sure to corrupt another 8 gigs so if I flash EL29 or 26 I'm safe about the pit file right?! Then I can flash one of the rooted zips in the development area and it'll be done right?!
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To do backups/restores from FK09 here is what I would suggest for now -
Download the separate stock kernel (.tar.md5) as well as Agat's FI27 .tar from here:
[UPDATE][KERNEL][SOURCE] FI27 AGAT_v0.6.8 with tREC_v0.2.2 11/07/12 - xda-developers
Then the following steps each time for backup/restores:
1) Boot to download mode (adb, Vol Down + Pwr, either way fine)
2) Flash Agat's kernel.
3) Perform whatever you need for CWM.
If you're going to stay on a Touchwiz ICS then you can keep this kernel.
However, if you're going back to FK09 you must for now go back to download mode and flash the stock kernel.
There are JB custom recoveries in testing but I haven't heard a release date yet.
Now, one point of caution... I'm not sure how the recovery will behave with the modified PIT file.
I think it will play nice but if it locks up again just flash again with Odin and the modified PIT file.
Again, hope you'll post your experiences if you do this - would be good for other folks who may be in a similar boat but not posting about it.
(BTW, did you ever look into getting it replaced under warranty?)
Well I bought it from a guy in eBay so it was out of the cards since the start.
But I have to see because after the incident and everything I selled it to my uncle half price (hence because of the half storage) and he is an android enthusiast like me and he have been using it all this time as an iPod in CM9. yesterday that I went with him I showed his the new FK09 and he asked me to install it and lend it to me until I see him again (possibly next year) so I have to be very cautious with the things that I install in it
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OK so this was the process:
As my logical part of brain told me, the kernel don't affect the partitions inside phone so with ODIN I flashed the EL26 kernel and went into the recovery.... inside of it I flashed an EK09 ROM from the Dev area and flashed it... it took more time than the flash that it made in my mom's E4GT so I began to worry but thankfully it flashed correctly after a couple of more minutes and after the reboot my only issue was that it didn't charged, it said that the battery had disconnected so I removed the battery and charged it off and now it works just fine so apparently the normal ICS process works just fine... Maybe later I will try an Odin one and make a general thread or something. Hope it helps to the community
Sent from my Nexus 7 with 4.2 and I love it....so **** logic its great
FK09... and I hope you don't have any issues other than what is already known. If so, well you always have your custom pit.
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I'm having some issues with my phone rebooting or powering off frequently, especially when I plug it into a charger. I don't think I have the power button issue. I suspect it is the battery (although the battery was replaced Oct 2012 at the sprint store) and have another on the way. I want to exhaust every possible option in testing, so I want to take my phone to off the shelf stock. I currently am running rooted sprint JB, and I am looking for a way to remove all user files on internal storage as well as the tweaks (have comadose installed and had kobridge before) just to make sure it is not from a bad flash. I know how to go back to stock unrooted GB27 with Nodata via ODIN, however I want to make sure ALL tweaks and user files are removed too. Ideas?
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I'm having some issues with my phone rebooting or powering off frequently, especially when I plug it into a charger. I don't think I have the power button issue. I suspect it is the battery (although the battery was replaced Oct 2012 at the sprint store) and have another on the way. I want to exhaust every possible option in testing, so I want to take my phone to off the shelf stock. I currently am running rooted sprint JB, and I am looking for a way to remove all user files on internal storage as well as the tweaks (have comadose installed and had kobridge before) just to make sure it is not from a bad flash. I know how to go back to stock unrooted GB27 with Nodata via ODIN, however I want to make sure ALL tweaks and user files are removed too. Ideas?
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The only thing I can say is if you have a CWM recovery installed boot into it and wipe all storage areas with that, then use the ODIN one-click RESTORE version (not NODATA as RESTORE will wipe all user data from the phone). That's about the best I can do for you. I just did it the other day to my phone and it wiped literally everything from the device, including the custom boot-screen.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2191954
A slip of the tongue, I meant restore, not nodata. I can mobileodin el29 directboot. What should I do in CWM to ensure all internal storage, system data, and tweaks is completely wiped? I usually use JB format all x2 but that doesn't delete pictures etc, so I am assuming it's leaving possible conflicts from flashing roms
OK, I flashed el29 directboot to CWM, formatted EVERYTHING I had an option to in CWM, did a restore to stock unrooted but it still knew my wifi password when the phone powered on which makes me think not all the data had been reset...
Try stock recovery do a "factory reset"after that it should ask you for wifi password.
Pp.
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chaosbuzz said:
A slip of the tongue, I meant restore, not nodata. I can mobileodin el29 directboot. What should I do in CWM to ensure all internal storage, system data, and tweaks is completely wiped? I usually use JB format all x2 but that doesn't delete pictures etc, so I am assuming it's leaving possible conflicts from flashing roms
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If you are rooted, use Mobile Odin Lite to flash a stock EL29 KERNEL (.tar). - I would highly suggest this particular way as it's how I do it and I've never had any issues doing it with Mobile Odin Lite. Mobile Odin Lite
If you're going to use CWM to flash the stock EL29 KERNEL, use the .zip version.
You could also always try the One-Click EL29 KERNEL, but I've never used a One-Click before so I can't help you on that process but I'd imagine it's the same as flashing the ROM with a One-Click.
http://www.rwilco12.com/downloads.p...int) (SPH-D710)/Kernels/Stock (TW) Kernels/GB
After that just do a factory reset through the stock recovery. You should be all set after that.
SOURCE for KERNELS - Thanks rwilco12. *tips hat*
SOURCE for Mobile Odin Lite - Thanks Chainfire *tips hat*
Kherr said:
If you are rooted, use Mobile Odin Lite to flash a stock EL29 KERNEL (.tar). - I would highly suggest this particular way as it's how I do it and I've never had any issues doing it with Mobile Odin Lite. Mobile Odin Lite
If you're going to use CWM to flash the stock EL29 KERNEL, use the .zip version.
You could also always try the One-Click EL29 KERNEL, but I've never used a One-Click before so I can't help you on that process but I'd imagine it's the same as flashing the ROM with a One-Click.
http://www.rwilco12.com/downloads.p...int) (SPH-D710)/Kernels/Stock (TW) Kernels/GB
After that just do a factory reset through the stock recovery. You should be all set after that.
SOURCE for KERNELS - Thanks rwilco12. *tips hat*
SOURCE for Mobile Odin Lite - Thanks Chainfire *tips hat*
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I used mobile odin lite to flash EL29 directboot kernel. This allows the use of CWM after flashing the kernel. Once in CWM I formatted everything I could in CWM and formatted cache and dalvik. From there, I used a one click desktop ODIN to flash stock sprint unrooted. IAfter all this, I am still having issues with constant restarts. I replaced the battery and am still having the problem. I am unsure if this is software or I have a power button issue. Does anyone have any tips I can try?
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I used mobile odin lite to flash EL29 directboot kernel. This allows the use of CWM after flashing the kernel. Once in CWM I formatted everything I could in CWM and formatted cache and dalvik. From there, I used a one click desktop ODIN to flash stock sprint unrooted. IAfter all this, I am still having issues with constant restarts. I replaced the battery and am still having the problem. I am unsure if this is software or I have a power button issue. Does anyone have any tips I can try?
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Well, then I'd probably say it's a power button issue, but I've also heard of moisture in the charger port (not necessarily liquid damage, could just be moisture in the air) might cause random bootloops as well. Could be a number of things, but you've stamped out your issue from being software related (as far as I can see). Sorry I couldn't be of more help to you.
Depending on what stock ROM you want there's a one click you run through odin that's wipes the internal memory as well
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Oh man... This is bad. You don't have to do all that confusing stuff!
Here is the link for the stock FL24 build for E4GT D710:
http://www.sxtpdevelopers.com/showthread.php?t=116
Download that file, run it, put phone into recovery, plug phone into computer and press start once "COM" shows up on the one-click...the usual. When I use this, once the phone boots up I always just go into settings-->privacy-->restore phone and check format USB (that is if you want everything deleted off your SD card). I back everything up to my 64GB removable sd card before I do this.
Hope I helped!
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smsnodgrass said:
Oh man... This is bad. You don't have to do all that confusing stuff!
Here is the link for the stock FL24 build for E4GT D710:
http://www.sxtpdevelopers.com/showthread.php?t=116
Download that file, run it, put phone into recovery, plug phone into computer and press start once "COM" shows up on the one-click...the usual. When I use this, once the phone boots up I always just go into settings-->privacy-->restore phone and check format USB (that is if you want everything deleted off your SD card). I back everything up to my 64GB removable sd card before I do this.
Hope I helped!
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Just curious, but any particular reason why flashing to stock ICS may be better than stock JB in this case?
Thanks.
chaosbuzz said:
Just curious, but any particular reason why flashing to stock ICS may be better than stock JB in this case?
Thanks.
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It's not. I don't think he realizes that JB has gone official.
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chaosbuzz said:
Just curious, but any particular reason why flashing to stock ICS may be better than stock JB in this case?
Thanks.
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graydiggy said:
It's not. I don't think he realizes that JB has gone official.
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I go back to ICS because, at least in my area, 4.1.2 JB has not gone OTA which, imo, you can't go wrong with it. It's stable and it's just what I do. I'll eventually switch to a stock JB build for a one-click restore, just not yet. I'm not living under a shell I know JB has gone official.
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I go back to ICS because, at least in my area, 4.1.2 JB has not gone OTA which, imo, you can't go wrong with it. It's stable and it's just what I do. I'll eventually switch to a stock JB build for a one-click restore, just not yet. I'm not living under a shell I know JB has gone official.
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JB is not an area specific thing... You can only officially get it over the wire from Samsung's site or by using kies. They will not do it over the air. So no matter where you are in the world, JB is official for all three variants of the E4GT.
ICS is the worst thing to hit the E4GT and is not stable. You obviously do live under a shell if you think it is. IMO, CM10.1 is more stable.
So, let's try not to make poor excuses with completely wrong information when posting next time.
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JB is not an area specific thing... You can only officially get it over the wire from Samsung's site or by using kies. They will not do it over the air. So no matter where you are in the world, JB is official for all three variants of the E4GT.
ICS is the worst thing to hit the E4GT and is not stable. You obviously do live under a shell if you think it is. IMO, CM10.1 is more stable.
So, let's try not to make poor excuses with completely wrong information when posting next time.
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Hahaha woah there dood...let's not get offensive, no need to be so harsh! If I've learned anything from Miley Cirus it's that
1) never let your weed-eater cut your hair and...
2)Everybody makes mistakes :good: :good:
Jesus man, sorry I haven't devoted my life to learning everything there is to know about cell phones just so I can take people down and attack them on online forums. Although, if that's all you can do to boost your self-esteem, then go for it. make me feel stupid! I am living under a shell. I make poor excuses. I am an idiot. I know nothing about anything. I should probably rethink my life.
Thank you, Mr. "Graydiggy" for this eye-opening experience
Rough night for me. My bad. All I am saying is that you should take more time to read. A little bit of bad advice could render someone's phone unusable. Even though your advice was decent, you could have possibly left someone in the dark when it comes to a much better version to use.
Like you said, mistakes are made, but some mistakes can cost hundreds of dollars. Its better to know what you are talking about and if you aren't sure, search for the answer.
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ICS is the worst thing to hit the E4GT and is not stable. You obviously do live under a shell if you think it is. IMO, CM10.1 is more stable.
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Gee, grey didn't know you felt that way about ics.?
And people kept telling me I was crazy!
Pp. :beer::thumbup:
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Rough night for me. My bad. All I am saying is that you should take more time to read. A little bit of bad advice could render someone's phone unusable. Even though your advice was decent, you could have possibly left someone in the dark when it comes to a much better version to use.
Like you said, mistakes are made, but some mistakes can cost hundreds of dollars. Its better to know what you are talking about and if you aren't sure, search for the answer.
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Yeah I gotchu maynee..no worries, I was just kinda posting what I do and I still don't really think running a ics one-click versus a 4.1.2 one-click is a hundred(s) dollar midtake. For some reason though I hadn't even thought about downloading a 4.1.2 one-click. probably a lot easier and hassle free?
Its not that it is a costly mistake, but it can be quite troublesome. I was saying that one should know every detail of something before posting. I have seen many a brick happen do to someone saying to do one thing that was completely wrong. So even if it has no potential of bricking you, take into account that it could just be wrong.
GB27 Is the best in terms of stock ROMs. People that say otherwise either don't know what they are talking about or it's horrible user error and misinformation.
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