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-PLEASE READ THE WHOLE THREAD BEFORE ASKING, OR STATING ANYTHING OR YOU WILL BE TROLLED (BADLY)
-YOU, AND ONLY YOU ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR YOU'RE ACTIONS. IF YOU FLASH AND BRICK YOU'RE PHONE, ONLY YOU ARE TO BLAME.
Sorry guys it's been a while since I've been able to update this thread, I'm extremely glad to see that it's being used throughout the E4GT community. Well I guess it's time to update this so lets get started, and please forgive me if I miss anything as I have been on ICS mainly for a long time.
-Are you on a rom with a stock recovery or with a kernel released prior to SOURCE? Use Odin buddy!
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Just because we have source now, does not mean you can't still brick you're device. In fact many people are still on ICS builds prior to FF18 or newer, this includes people using stock kernels as well. Do not use the recovery on you're phone to do anything, The stock recovery is meant for files signed by Samsung and only Samsung, Roms prior to source with a custom recovery had the dreaded EMMC bug which would brick some people with a simple wipe. If any of the above applies to you and you wish to get back to GB or ICS then click on the following link that corresponds to you're desire and follow the steps.
EL29 One Click Link Below
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1433101
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ICS FF18 (Original ICS OTA update) Link Below
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1721229
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ICS FI27 (Newest ICS OTA update) Link Below
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1932032
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-After you install the .Tar file to you're phone, you'll need to install a custom recovery using a Auto Root Package found below, just follow the instructions. (use the FF18 Combo to install a custom recovery on the FI27 version)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1342728
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-Wanna flash to ICS from GB?
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Simply pick the ICS rom you wish to use and flash using the OP's instructions. The issue of flashing to ICS from GB never really existed. If you are still worried about the risks of flashing to ICS, then use the Odin One Click method above and you're guaranteed fine.
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-Wanna Flash to GB from ICS?(includes restoring backups to GB roms too)
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This is where issues began to occur, prior to source release. The EMMC bug was present during the ICS leaks leading up to source release FF18 (FF18 OTA not being the issue). If you are on a rom which already contains a source kernel (FF18 and newer) Flashing to GB is the same as flashing to another rom, just follow the OP's instructions. If you're on a leaked rom with a stock recovery, or custom recovery, use the Odin One Click method to get back to GB or ICS. DO NOT WIPE IN NON-SOURCE KERNELS--- EVER
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-Wanna Flash Good ol' CyanogenMod, or Something else AOSP?
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-CyanogenMod 9 as of recent bulids has a proven SAFE RECOVERY, so you should be able to flash to, and from without issues
-I am unsure if CyanogenMod 10, or other Jellybean AOSP roms have a safe recovery, so I recommend this method below
Always use the EL26CWM kernel to flash AOSP roms. I myself, have flashed CyanogenMod 9 with multiple non-CWM kernels without issues, but better safe then sorry right? Thanks to rwilco12, we now have a repository for kernels, and modems so give him a big thanks. You can find the EL26 CWM kernel here.
http://rwilco12.androidfilehost.com/?dir=Kernels/Recovery Kernels/GB/Chris41g/Stock CWM
Simply download the rom you wish to flash, as well as the EL26CWM kernel. Flash the kernel, and reboot back into the recovery. When you're phone restarts back into recovery press up, down, up, down with you're volume buttons to enable the selection button (power on/off button). Now flash the rom USING THE RECOMMENDED FLASHING INSTRUCTIONS. Instructions of roms may differ from others so be sure to read the Original Post by the dev before flashing.
-Are you on an AOSP rom and you wish to flash to a TW rom or other?
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Follow the same instructions for flashing to an AOSP rom, except replace the AOSP rom with the rom of you're choice. You can also use the One Click Odin Method from before. I have used both of these methods for flashing a different rom while on AOSP multiple times without any issues whatsoever.
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-Bricking Info
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-For more info on the EMMC chip corruption issue from kernels prior to source go here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1644364
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-Stick with source kernels and you should be safe
-Stay away from touch recovery, unless it's source-based
-Stay away from Rom manager, It's not, and probably never will be optimized for our phone
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Calkulin, Mijj,all of Team Venom, all of Team Rejectz, agat, good ol' ruj22, rwilco12, garwynn, Ja5on for the title, all devs, and themers
Hey xST4T1K, great idea for a thread man, and great accumulation of information. As it seems, I have seen quite a few bricked devices in the Q&A lately. Hopefully new members of this community will take a moment to read this and understand some of the problems that others are having in hopes that it will help at least one person from brickin' their celly. Thanks again xST4T1K...
I really think that something like this should be stickied....
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Hey xST4T1K, great idea for a thread man, and great accumulation of information. As it seems, I have seen quite a few bricked devices in the Q&A lately. Hopefully new members of this community will take a moment to read this and understand some of the problems that others are having in hopes that it will help at least one person from brickin' their celly. Thanks again xST4T1K...
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No problem man, If you have anything to add please feel free, I know I missed some things I'm sure, but glad you like it!
shiftr182 said:
I really think that something like this should be stickied....
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Exactly what I was thinking. With a title something along the lines of How to not brick your device.
shiftr182 said:
I really think that something like this should be stickied....
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Agreed, I was surprised I hadn't seen any other threads like it yet
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Exactly what I was thinking. With a title something along the lines of How to not brick your device.
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Lol renamed and gave you credit for the tittle
Some of us, myself included , bricked by using odin. I'm very experienced in modding my phones and I bricked one, so its not a lack of knowledge that caused this. I was going from one of the ics builds back to a stock rooted rom using one of sfhubs all in one odin packages and it some how screwed up the data partition. I had done it several times without issue so it surprised me when it bricked it. I think that I was using the touch recovery when it happened but I'm not positive. Hope this helps someone.
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Lol renamed and gave you credit for the tittle
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LOL nice, you didn't have to do that it's your thread, but thanks man!
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LOL nice, you didn't have to do that it's your thread, but thanks man!
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Lol it's a way better title then mine bro, plus hopefully it will open up to more people
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Some of us, myself included , bricked by using odin. I'm very experienced in modding my phones and I bricked one, so its not a lack of knowledge that caused this. I was going from one of the ics builds back to a stock rooted rom using one of sfhubs all in one odin packages and it some how screwed up the data partition. I had done it several times without issue so it surprised me when it bricked it. I think that I was using the touch recovery when it happened but I'm not positive. Hope this helps someone.
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Actually, more then likely your device isn't bricked, sfhub helped someone else with the same issue unbrick they're device. Look around the q&a section and you'll find it. I also mentioned touch recovery as a possible issue, gotta read broski. Doesn't matter how experienced you are, you can still have a brick with one wrong move, even devs brick sometimes, I've been doing this for 5 years now and even I almost did the other day.
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Actually, more then likely your device isn't bricked, sfhub helped someone else with the same issue unbrick they're device. Look around the q&a section and you'll find it. I also mentioned touch recovery as a possible issue, gotta read broski. Doesn't matter how experienced you are, you can still have a brick with one wrong move, even devs brick sometimes, I've been doing this for 5 years now and even I almost did the other day.
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There was nothing to read. I was one of the first. I tried everything before finally sending it to Josh at mobiletechvideos.com. It's on the way back and should be here @ Sat. According to him in the main tread though, even he was unable to repair it but he didn't mention mine being un-repairable in the emails he sent me. I'll find out soon and let everyone know.
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There was nothing to read. I was one of the first. I tried everything before finally sending it to Josh at mobiletechvideos.com. It's on the way back and should be here @ Sat. According to him in the main tread though, even he was unable to repair it but he didn't mention mine being un-repairable in the emails he sent me. I'll find out soon and let everyone know.
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Calm down buddy! just be more careful when flashing that's all, and stay away from touch recovery, even Steady debated pulling the link because of bricking issues.
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Calm down buddy! just be more careful when flashing that's all, and stay away from touch recovery, even Steady debated pulling the link because of bricking issues.
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I'm perfectly calm. As stated, I was one of the first to brick using touch recovery so even if the link was pulled, it would've been too late for me. I do not need anyone jumping to conclusions without having the facts. That is all.
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I'm perfectly calm. As stated, I was one of the first to brick using touch recovery so even if the link was pulled, it would've been too late for me. I do not need anyone jumping to conclusions without having the facts. That is all.
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Completely understand now, didn't know how long ago you bricked so sorry for the assumption, hope you get it restored. I know this thread may not solve everyone's issue but please understand that I put it up so people were aware that things may be an issue
This is great to see before I start flashing thank you
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Sheldon_ said:
This is great to see before I start flashing thank you
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At least you took the time to read this before posting another thread that you bricked you phone doing the same thing others are doing and not reading first..... My hats off to you good sir
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At least you took the time to read this before posting another thread that you bricked you phone doing the same thing others are doing and not reading first..... My hats off to you good sir
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Agreed, too many people are getting flash happy and not paying attention to the forums anymore
Haha thanks guys
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I've bricked mine a different way. Was playing around with a CM9 test build, and bricked mine pretty good. I can get to odin and recovery, and sometimes it will loop the boot animation infinitely.
Everytime i try a OC odin, it hangs at data.img forever, i can't restore any rom, tried reflashing the rom that 'broke' my phone, not sure where else to head. looking like $35 at sprint ain't too shabby
I should be getting my device within the next day and I am going to root, I'm hearing all this stuff about bricking and I would like to know what to do and what not to do to end up in this situation thanks!
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Darrien13 said:
I should be getting my device within the next day and I am going to root, I'm hearing all this stuff about bricking and I would like to know what to do and what not to do to end up in this situation thanks!
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Follow instructions carefully. If not sure what something is or how to do it, ask instead of blindly flashing. Oh, and don't ever use CWM Touch Recovery. Good Luck
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I should be getting my device within the next day and I am going to root, I'm hearing all this stuff about bricking and I would like to know what to do and what not to do to end up in this situation thanks!
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I HIGHLY recommend you follow QBKING77's videos on youtube he has videos on how to root(use the latest) he has review videos and how to install videos on every rom on this site. Stick with his video's follow them to a T and you should be good to go. I have had this phone for a good 3 months now and I LOVE it and have never had a problem while following his videos. You will love this phone it is AMAZING!
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Follow instructions carefully. If not sure what something is or how to do it, ask instead of blindly flashing. Oh, and don't ever use CWM Touch Recovery. Good Luck
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Yes I can definitely agree with that DO NOT use touch recovery, I soft bricked my phone a couple weeks back using it trying to install Phantom Hackers Blazer rom. AMAZING rom BTW!
1) Don't use ROM Manager to flash anything in its temp recovery while on a ICS kernel
2) Don't use Touch Recovery at all
3) If you want to be as safe as possible, never wipe data while on a ICS + CWM repacked kernel. Anytime you wipe data, make sure you're on a GB + CWM kernel. The EL26 stock CWM repack works nicely, but I trust the EL29 + Rogue CWM repack. Now, I've wiped data on a ICS + Rogue kernel repack twice now and it went just fine, but it does seem that this may be risky. You may never brick doing it, but some have, so it may be better to be safe than sorry.
If you don't plan to flash anything ICS related, you really don't have much to worry about besides possibly #2.
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1) Don't use ROM Manager to flash anything in its temp recovery while on a ICS kernel
2) Don't use Touch Recovery at all
3) If you want to be as safe as possible, never wipe data while on a ICS + CWM repacked kernel. Anytime you wipe data, make sure you're on a GB + CWM kernel. The EL26 stock CWM repack works nicely, but I trust the EL29 + Rogue CWM repack. Now, I've wiped data on a ICS + Rogue kernel repack twice now and it went just fine, but it does seem that this may be risky. You may never brick doing it, but some have, so it may be better to be safe than sorry.
If you don't plan to flash anything ICS related, you really don't have much to worry about besides possibly #2.
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i was on calks ics rom and wiped everything then flashed his 2.9 rom. everything went just fine.
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i was on calks ics rom and wiped everything then flashed his 2.9 rom. everything went just fine.
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As I said ... I have done the same, as have many others. However, just because it worked once, or twice, or twenty times, there could always be that one time where you brick. Steady Hawkin said he used his kernel repack to wipe and flash CM9 4 or 5 times with no issues, then doing the exact same thing again his phone bricked. Here's the quote ...
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Here is the story fellas:
I was on CM9 Alpha4, and I was flashing our FB21 rev2 to pull some logs. I had flashed Alpha4 and our kernel about four or five times already without any kind of issue. For whatever reason the next time I went to reflash Alpha 4, I booted into recovery wiped cache and dalvik cache (as I had done four or five times already with the same recovery and rom build) and it just hung at installing update. It was at that time I knew my luck had run out. No Odin (including using the jig I have), no connection to ADB, no nothing, just the blue light of death.
These bricks are concerning for a variety of reasons. The biggest IMO, is that there does not seem to be a single constant. People are bricking on different recoveries, with different roms, with different scenarios each time. TBH at this point I have no idea what is causing it or where to even start. I will say it is possible that these stock kernels from Sammie could play a role in the chaos, but thats just a guess.
Bottom line is, playing with ICS before we have any sort of source is going to be a gamble. If you dont have insurance on your phone I would hold off. I'm going to continue to do my best to try and figure out what is going on, but I cant guarantee anything. With the help of the other dev's I hope we can get this situated so we can move forward. In the meantime Team Rogue will continue to play with fire in a quest to move development forward.
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Whether the extra time it takes to flash back to GB is worth it or not is up to each person.
I would recommend looking at this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1525495
I believe it is the intent of the OP on that thread to get it stickied if possible to avoid duplicate threads like this one.
If I may also share some advice given to me last week: Consider just rooting the stock ROM and getting familiar with it before jumping on to other ROMs. This gives you time to become more familiar with the device and stock capabilities as well as hopefully time to fully identify the brick issues and either work around them or resolve the cause.
I would also recommend keeping tabs on this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1504808
It never hurts to err on the side of caution in this case. Good luck and enjoy your E4GT when it comes in!
new to epic touch 4g...well actually its my friends....anyway i rooted it just fine...installed what i thought was the correct CWM...when i got into recovery it looked different than any other CWM ive ever used. Said team rogue or something. Thought i could try to flash in that recovery. Turns out i couldnt lol all flashes aborted. and then i was unable to boot up. Odin back to stock rooted. Which CWM is correct???
EDIT: also tried flashing CWM in rom manager. It boots me to the triangle and thats it
This works well http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1342728
Option C for Gingerbread or D for ICS
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new to epic touch 4g...well actually its my friends....anyway i rooted it just fine...installed what i thought was the correct CWM...when i got into recovery it looked different than any other CWM ive ever used. Said team rogue or something. Thought i could try to flash in that recovery. Turns out i couldnt lol all flashes aborted. and then i was unable to boot up. Odin back to stock rooted. Which CWM is correct???
EDIT: also tried flashing CWM in rom manager. It boots me to the triangle and thats it
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Yikes! OK, it all depends on what you are trying to flash. Rogue works great for Gingerbread builds. The Epic Touch has recovery built into the kernel, so you can't really just mix and match. You have to have the kernel with the recovery in it. Read up about which rom you are trying to install before doing anything. The AOSP stuff requires you use the el26 "Stock" CWM. Stock refers to it is an unmodified ClocckworkMod, unlike Rogue. There is also a thread about how to not brick your e4gt, I highly recommend you read that as well. Of course, I've learned that doing anything with anyones phone other than your own will often end in disaster as well lol "Dude, why doesn't blah blah blah work?" Usually a quick fix for those in the know, but if the person can't do it themselves, they just get frustrated and mad at the @$$hole that messed up their phone lol Good luck
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Of course, I've learned that doing anything with anyones phone other than your own will often end in disaster as well lol "Dude, why doesn't blah blah blah work?" Usually a quick fix for those in the know, but if the person can't do it themselves, they just get frustrated and mad at the @$$hole that messed up their phone lol Good luck
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This goes DOUBLE for spouses, TRIPLE if they're not tech savvy. (Personal experience)
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This goes DOUBLE for spouses, TRIPLE if they're not tech savvy. (Personal experience)
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Absolutely! Rooted my wife's evo and put CM7 on it a while ago, learned that lesson very quickly! No matter how much you try to warn them that some things might be a bit weird or might not work, they always be shocked if anything isn't exactly the way they had it before. She has an iphone now ... and I refuse to learn how to jailbreak it
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Yikes! OK, it all depends on what you are trying to flash. Rogue works great for Gingerbread builds. The Epic Touch has recovery built into the kernel, so you can't really just mix and match. You have to have the kernel with the recovery in it. Read up about which rom you are trying to install before doing anything. The AOSP stuff requires you use the el26 "Stock" CWM. Stock refers to it is an unmodified ClocckworkMod, unlike Rogue. There is also a thread about how to not brick your e4gt, I highly recommend you read that as well. Of course, I've learned that doing anything with anyones phone other than your own will often end in disaster as well lol "Dude, why doesn't blah blah blah work?" Usually a quick fix for those in the know, but if the person can't do it themselves, they just get frustrated and mad at the @$$hole that messed up their phone lol Good luck
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I GOT IT!! lol I had to revert back to el26...nevertheless i was able to boot into the ACTUAL cwm after flashing another file through this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1342728...just installed cyanogenmod on his thank you very much you guys. much appreciated...didnt want to pay my friend money for his epic lol considering the money i just dropped on my Gnexus
I'm new to the rooting game as well for the EG4T. The Rogue part sounds right, it most likely had more to do with the version you used. I made the same mistake once.
My best tip would be to use QBKing77's tutorial videos and follow them step-by-step....he has one for pretty much any situation and explains things very well. They are a lifesaver. Also, since it's your friend's phone, maybe stick to GB ROMs as they seem to require the fewest tweaks and have the least FCs. If you absolutely have to have ICS, my choice on ROM would be Venum's Anaconda ROM, which was just released yesterday. It is nothing short of brilliant. However, once you go to ICS, I believe you need to start from scratch (stock) if you want to go back to GB. I hear it's a big no-no to try and recover GB from an ICS ROM (most likely what you did). Best of luck.
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I'm new to the rooting game as well for the EG4T. The Rogue part sounds right, it most likely had more to do with the version you used. I made the same mistake once.
My best tip would be to use QBKing77's tutorial videos and follow them step-by-step....he has one for pretty much any situation and explains things very well. They are a lifesaver. Also, since it's your friend's phone, maybe stick to GB ROMs as they seem to require the fewest tweaks and have the least FCs. If you absolutely have to have ICS, my choice on ROM would be Venum's Anaconda ROM, which was just released yesterday. It is nothing short of brilliant. However, once you go to ICS, I believe you need to start from scratch (stock) if you want to go back to GB. I hear it's a big no-no to try and recover GB from an ICS ROM (most likely what you did). Best of luck.
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lol i cant believe how much more effort goes into switching a rom on this phone is compared to a nexus...its just flash and go on the nexus. i successfully flashed CM9 alpha 2 but he requested an OC kernel. im on cm9 alpha 2 on EL26...can i just flash anaconda over this with wipe? and what kernel is suggested? thanks guys u have made my day
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Absolutely! Rooted my wife's evo and put CM7 on it a while ago, learned that lesson very quickly! No matter how much you try to warn them that some things might be a bit weird or might not work, they always be shocked if anything isn't exactly the way they had it before. She has an iphone now ... and I refuse to learn how to jailbreak it
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I learned the same thing when the Optimus S had a firmware update - it was later pulled but the damage was done. So I did what I could - found a stable tweaked ROM and put it on there. I've always believed in wiping the phone before flashing - BIG MISTAKE. "Where's my messages? Where's my files?"
Funny thing about this is that they fixed the last FW update with another one that rolls out today. I know I'm going to have to flash this one but I'll be using TB to back up what I can before I flash it. Also have to figure out how to save her SMS, that's the #1 thing that will avoid a mad wife!
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lol i cant believe how much more effort goes into switching a rom on this phone is compared to a nexus...its just flash and go on the nexus. i successfully flashed CM9 alpha 2 but he requested an OC kernel. im on cm9 alpha 2 on EL26...can i just flash anaconda over this with wipe? and what kernel is suggested? thanks guys u have made my day
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There aren't any kernels that overclock for ICS yet. I am not sure on this but the paid Tegrak Ultimate app allows overclocking of stock kernels we have but I haven't tried it on CM9 yet.
Once we get the ICS kernel source, things will be a lot easier when it comes to flashing. I understand where you are coming from with the Nexus though. I basically wipe everything on my NS4G then flash the Euroskank CM9 nightly and all of my apps install automatically. We don't have it that easy on the Epic Touch but once we have a kernel built from source we will be able to wipe and flash without fear of any residual issues
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There aren't any kernels that overclock for ICS yet. I am not sure on this but the paid Tegrak Ultimate app allows overclocking of stock kernels we have but I haven't tried it on CM9 yet.
Once we get the ICS kernel source, things will be a lot easier when it comes to flashing. I understand where you are coming from with the Nexus though. I basically wipe everything on my NS4G then flash the Euroskank CM9 nightly and all of my apps install automatically. We don't have it that easy on the Epic Touch but once we have a kernel built from source we will be able to wipe and flash without fear of any residual issues
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gotcha thanks man. Since i have u right here...when i try to reboot into recovery it always takes me to stock recovery...i definitely flashed CWM correctly about an hour ago because i successfully flashed CM9...now it seems to be gone. I went to rom manager and tried flashing CWM again...but no luck. I want to install Anaconda for him and i cant! lol
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There aren't any kernels that overclock for ICS yet. I am not sure on this but the paid Tegrak Ultimate app allows overclocking of stock kernels we have but I haven't tried it on CM9 yet.
Once we get the ICS kernel source, things will be a lot easier when it comes to flashing. I understand where you are coming from with the Nexus though. I basically wipe everything on my NS4G then flash the Euroskank CM9 nightly and all of my apps install automatically. We don't have it that easy on the Epic Touch but once we have a kernel built from source we will be able to wipe and flash without fear of any residual issues
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That's one of the things I like about the cm9 builds lately. I did a fresh install of fd02 just to check it out and when I came back to cm9 it pulls in my setup I had before, right down to changing my wallpaper for me. No backups needed. I still have to go in and put in my username and passwords on some of them and I lose my Cut the Rope game data (Oh darn!!), but I love that my apps from the play store(calling the market the "play store" makes me feel dirty lol) automatically install.
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gotcha thanks man. Since i have u right here...when i try to reboot into recovery it always takes me to stock recovery...i definitely flashed CWM correctly about an hour ago because i successfully flashed CM9...now it seems to be gone. I went to rom manager and tried flashing CWM again...but no luck. I want to install Anaconda for him and i cant! lol
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OK, first things first. I will suggest you read a lot more before doing anything based on what I bolded above.
ROM Manager is generally discouraged and can cause a brick. Read more here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=24318861&postcount=2
Hopefully you got to this in time.
Good luck and once again, please do not be afraid to ask questions before you do something. It's easier than taking your friend's phone to Sprint because it bricked.
Final Edit: Sorry if I'm coming off a little harsh, but there are MANY posts out there - far longer than the ICS brick issues - that have said ROM Manager is a no-no.
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gotcha thanks man. Since i have u right here...when i try to reboot into recovery it always takes me to stock recovery...i definitely flashed CWM correctly about an hour ago because i successfully flashed CM9...now it seems to be gone. I went to rom manager and tried flashing CWM again...but no luck. I want to install Anaconda for him and i cant! lol
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Like I said earlier, the recoveries are built into the kernel. Get the files you want to flash onto the sd card, then odin the el26 kernel. Before it reboots (ICS won't boot on a gb kernel, so you'll just boot loop anyway), go back into recovery and flash away.
Just whatever you do....dont flash with any Rogue ICS recovery, the source isnt avalable yet so its kinda like playing darts with a blindfold on and your friends are all drunk and not paying attention to whats going on around them.
Personally, I keep Rogue Stock EL29 (Odin version) on my sdcard and just use mobile odin to revert back to that when I need to flash (someone please let me know if this method is a bad one, so far it has worked fine though).
I haven't read up much on it, but I would avoid doing backups and restores of ICS roms via recovery until ICS is finalized (regardless of the recovery your using).
If you wanna play it safe, just stick with an EL29 rom until a final version of ICS is released, frankly I prefer stability over fancy new features and just like to test out the ICS leak for a little before odin'ing back to Rogue EL29 and restoring my gingerbread backup...it quite cool to watch the offical ICS mature and get fixed.
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Just whatever you do....dont flash with any Rogue ICS recovery, the source isnt avalable yet so its kinda like playing darts with a blindfold on and your friends are all drunk and not paying attention to whats going on around them.
Personally, I keep Rogue Stock EL29 (Odin version) on my sdcard and just use mobile odin to revert back to that when I need to flash (someone please let me know if this method is a bad one, so far it has worked fine though).
I haven't read up much on it, but I would avoid doing backups and restores of ICS roms via recovery until ICS is finalized (regardless of the recovery your using).
If you wanna play it safe, just stick with an EL29 rom until a final version of ICS is released, frankly I prefer stability over fancy new features and just like to test out the ICS leak for a little before odin'ing back to Rogue EL29 and restoring my gingerbread backup...it quite cool to watch the offical ICS mature and get fixed.
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I'd probably go with el26 just because it's "stock" CWM and the devs are big on that recomendation.
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I'd probably go with el26 just because it's "stock" CWM and the devs are big on that recomendation.
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so just do the same odin restore back to stock el26 rooted...then it should autoboot into CWM and then flash anaconda...geesh lol
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so just do the same odin restore back to stock el26 rooted...then it should autoboot into CWM and then flash anaconda...geesh lol
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Don't have to do the whole odin restore. Just the kernel. Won't autoboot. Have to hold vol + and power. Like JC said, this will all become much simpler once we have sauce
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Don't have to do the whole odin restore. Just the kernel. Won't autoboot. Have to hold vol + and power. Like JC said, this will all become much simpler once we have sauce
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got it lol thanks a million man...seriously
Thanks for picking me up there guys!
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I purchased this phone yesterday after a great year with my Evo and two with a Hero before that. Even though I haven't posted alot I've been rooting and customizing my phones for years. I was even to the point with the file system and stuff that I would add and remove things from roms before I flashed them so I feel like I know what I'm doing with an Android phone.
This thing is a whole other animal though as far as I'm concerned. I've searched, I've read and I still don't understand half the lingo used here. I don't even know how to ask the questions I want to ask honestly. I hate having to jump through hoops just to flash a ROM.
I am rooted. Baseband is el29, kernel is 2.6.35.14-rogue_ET-1.4.1+ and build is Calkulin 3.0. I installed Rom Manager from the market and got the official Clockwork Mod Recovery because I didn't like the recovery that was put on my phone when I rooted.
So from here with the setup I explained what roms can I just place on my sd card and flash through recovery after a wipe? I don't want downgrade to a previous anything or change a modem or use Odin because I don't know what any of that stuff means and there is no where I can find that it's explained very well.
I appreciate any help that is offered and I know I come off as negative but so far this phone is extremely intimidating to do anything with and I don't want to brick it. I never worried about bricking my Evo cause I'm not sure that's even possible anymore
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I worked on a friends EVO once and didn't understand half of what you guys had to do to root and flash so the feeling is mutual, lol. First off if you're going to switch to ICS start on the EL26 kernel with CWM. Anything else and you risk a hard brick. Odin is actually the easiest to flash with. Sfhub has Odin one-click that makes it easy as hell.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=23478866&postcount=869
And here's a really good how-to: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1391732
And download mobile Odin, DON'T use ROM Manager. That will almost certainly brick your phone. Just delete it to be safe.
one of the things you're going to have to get used to with this phone, is that the kernels and recoveries are tied together. Its not like any other android phone i ever used that you could swap out kernels and use whichever recovery you wanted.
You have a Samsung phone now. You are in the promised land. Samsung phones are a lot easier to work with than HTC phones.
Basically any ROM here can be flashed using Clockwork Mod Recovery unless it says otherwise. I'd like to point you over to QBKing77's youtube channel. He has a ton of "how to's" and reviews for a lot of ROMs on the E4GT.
http://www.youtube.com/user/qbking77
I'm sure you'd appreciate that. My family uses HTC phones and whenever they want something done to their phone, I tear up and hope that QBKing77 got an EVO since the last time I needed him.
Also the great thing about Samsung is that if you do happen to brick your phone, Odin will save your life.
If you have any question feel free to PM me or something
You cannot use a GB kernel with an ICS ROM and you cannot use an ICS kernel with a GB ROM.
Coming from stock EL29 you can use the Oneclicks to upgrade to the newer FD ROMs or just flash most through CWM unless they state otherwise.
If you do decide to go ICS(FD24 FD26 etc) and want to go back to GB ROMs, you need to flash the EL26+CWM through Odin(which isn't as complicated as you think) and go right to recovery as the phone tries to reboot, then flash the GB rom.
Seriously check out qbking though, he is the biggest help and his videos are phenomenal. Hope that helps a little.
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You cannot use a GB kernel with an ICS ROM and you cannot use an ICS kernel with a GB ROM.
Coming from stock EL29 you can use the Oneclicks to upgrade to the newer FD ROMs or just flash most through CWM unless they state otherwise.
If you do decide to go ICS(FD24 FD26 etc) and want to go back to GB ROMs, you need to flash the EL26+CWM through Odin(which isn't as complicated as you think) and go right to recovery as the phone tries to reboot, then flash the GB rom.
Seriously check out qbking though, he is the biggest help and his videos are phenomenal. Hope that helps a little.
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Sorry to thread jack. im a new sammy owner from the htc evo line. I know how to flash htc's with my eyes closed, but with sammy im all concerned.
So i have to be connected to PC to Odin flash EL26+cwm then flash the roms/kernels?
I got the phone on sunday, rooted it with one click with EL29 +cwm. can i use that instead of el26?
super confused also...
nzaw4 said:
Sorry to thread jack. im a new sammy owner from the htc evo line. I know how to flash htc's with my eyes closed, but with sammy im all concerned.
So i have to be connected to PC to Odin flash EL26+cwm then flash the roms/kernels?
I got the phone on sunday, rooted it with one click with EL29 +cwm. can i use that instead of el26?
super confused also...
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You need to used Odin to flash EL26+cwm.tar. However, you do not need a computer, I use mobile odin android app religously. It is definitely worth the 5 bucks. For mobile odin just keep the EL26+cwm.tar on your phone, when you want to leave a rom open mobile odin app, point it to that .tar and flash. Then you will have the best copy of cwm on your phone and can start wiping/flashing any roms, kernals, or modems.
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You need to used Odin to flash EL26+cwm.tar. However, you do not need a computer, I use mobile odin android app religously. It is definitely worth the 5 bucks. For mobile odin just keep the EL26+cwm.tar on your phone, when you want to leave a rom open mobile odin app, point it to that .tar and flash. Then you will have the best copy of cwm on your phone and can start wiping/flashing any roms, kernals, or modems.
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Thanks !!!!
Last noob question.... I cant find the tar, i only see .exe files and zips to have it flashed in CWM......
Edit: Found it!, but i have 2 files one i found that was StockCWM-EL26.tar.md5 which is like 8megs, but i did d/l SPH-D710.EL26_CL839620_ROM_ROOTED-sfx.exe, and extracted it via 7zip, then found the 400 meg .tar... which one should i use?
Btw, thanks for your help!
MeWarning said:
I worked on a friends EVO once and didn't understand half of what you guys had to do to root and flash so the feeling is mutual, lol. First off if you're going to switch to ICS start on the EL26 kernel with CWM. Anything else and you risk a hard brick. Odin is actually the easiest to flash with. Sfhub has Odin one-click that makes it easy as hell.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=23478866&postcount=869
And here's a really good how-to: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1391732
And download mobile Odin, DON'T use ROM Manager. That will almost certainly brick your phone. Just delete it to be safe.
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SORRY JUST WANT TO REPEAT SOME GREAT WORDS... DO NOT USE ROM MANAGER... that is all
So say I wanted go from Calk's gb to his ICS, if I make a nandroid of the gb rom then install the ICS one and don't like it for some reason I can't just nandroid back?
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So say I wanted go from Calk's gb to his ICS, if I make a nandroid of the gb rom then install the ICS one and don't like it for some reason I can't just nandroid back?
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You can nandroid right back! You will have to have a kernel that will let you use CWM such as FD02 or EL26 to get to recovery for the nandroid.
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Thanks for all the helpful tips and links. I too am switching from the OG EVO to the Galaxy S2 tomorrow and was concerned about flashing. I feel better now.
davidboyd said:
Thanks for all the helpful tips and links. I too am switching from the OG EVO to the Galaxy S2 tomorrow and was concerned about flashing. I feel better now.
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Any additional questions, feel free to PM me.
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Thanks for all the help but I'm strongly considering returning this phone. I've read till my head hurts and the most common words I see here is brick. I don't want to take that chance. How anyone could think dealing with an Evo is worse than this I don't understand. With the Evo you put the rom on the sd card, wipe, and flash. No worrying if you have the right modem/kernel/cwm combination. It's a nice phone, but I really regret buying it now. 3g is also slooooooow.
Jakeup96 said:
I purchased this phone yesterday after a great year with my Evo and two with a Hero before that. Even though I haven't posted alot I've been rooting and customizing my phones for years. I was even to the point with the file system and stuff that I would add and remove things from roms before I flashed them so I feel like I know what I'm doing with an Android phone.
This thing is a whole other animal though as far as I'm concerned. I've searched, I've read and I still don't understand half the lingo used here. I don't even know how to ask the questions I want to ask honestly. I hate having to jump through hoops just to flash a ROM.
I am rooted. Baseband is el29, kernel is 2.6.35.14-rogue_ET-1.4.1+ and build is Calkulin 3.0. I installed Rom Manager from the market and got the official Clockwork Mod Recovery because I didn't like the recovery that was put on my phone when I rooted.
So from here with the setup I explained what roms can I just place on my sd card and flash through recovery after a wipe? I don't want downgrade to a previous anything or change a modem or use Odin because I don't know what any of that stuff means and there is no where I can find that it's explained very well.
I appreciate any help that is offered and I know I come off as negative but so far this phone is extremely intimidating to do anything with and I don't want to brick it. I never worried about bricking my Evo cause I'm not sure that's even possible anymore
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I came from the Hero myself...and my first post in this forum looked much like yours. I even went and installed ROM manager thinking I was doing the right thing...lol
Take your time and read up before you do anything...Odin/mobile Odin is actually very easy to use and the safest, even without the one click files. As with others on here if you need some help feel free to PM.
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Thanks for all the help but I'm strongly considering returning this phone. I've read till my head hurts and the most common words I see here is brick. I don't want to take that chance. How anyone could think dealing with an Evo is worse than this I don't understand. With the Evo you put the rom on the sd card, wipe, and flash. No worrying if you have the right modem/kernel/cwm combination. It's a nice phone, but I really regret buying it now. 3g is also slooooooow.
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I also recently moved to this phone from the evo. The epic touch blows the evo away in every way possible! There is definitely some studying to be done but its worth it! Once you get the hang of things its a breeze.
Same here. I've had the phone since latter part of December and have not rooted it yet ...mostly because my laptop has the screen of death.But noticed the slight difference in the method in flashing roms on the E4GT. But after seeing some video on that AOKP rom I'm getting antsy and need to get my computer fixed!!
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Why would you buy a wimax phone if sprint is changing to lte? I would ha even gotten galaxy nexus or waited for another phone just my two cents
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Hi.. just moved from the Samsung Vibrant S to the Epic 4G touch. I am confused on how to get Clockwork Mod recovery on my phone. Flashing it via the ROM Manager Premium app doesn't seem to work. I reboot into recovery, and no Clockwork Mod.
What is the appropriate and correct way to get Clockwork Mod on the phone? It seems for now, the only way I can play with ROMS is to find an ODIN version of the ROM. I am willing to use that if necessary, but a lot of ROMS are not released in ODIN format. Can someone help? Thanks!
Recovery is packed with kernal. So you have to flash a kernal with the recovery of choice. I think the consensus is to use Odin or MobilOdin for now.
Agat63 has some nice kernals and CM9 folks are making some safe ones.
Make sure you read the stickies on how not to brick your phone. There's some dangerous stuff that can brick you permanently, especially if youre used to flashing stuff on other phones. Theyre not just for noobies. Definitely read the stickies here. And did i mention to read the stickies?
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Please tell me you are on a Gingerbread rom!
Also, do not use Rom Manager, ever.
We can help you with this, but tell us what you flashed so far so we know how to proceed. Tnx
Edit: Its ok to be on ics, but please don't do any rom or kernel flashing yet until we're sure its done the safe way.
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thanks guys. Right now, I haven't flashed a new ROM as of yet. Is there one that you would recommend. I'd rather wait till CM is in beta stage, and I have checked out Phantom's rom.
I did try installing a kernel FE22 i believe, and thought it would have recovery in it, but getting into recovery mode, I don't see Clockwork mod. Am i doing it incorrectly? Which kernel would u recommend. Thanks!
Heed tdunham's advice about ROM manager or you'll paperweight your shiny new phone. Here are the kernels http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1662295 Read through some of the threads. I would recommend using the EL26 CWM or one of the latest ICS versions (FF11 FF18) from Agat63; they have not failed me or others. Being new to this device I'd recommend using one of sfhub's one-clicks then odin a kernel with recovery (again Agat would be my choice). Be careful to choose a recovery and install method that is expressly laid out by the developer. Using the wrong format, kernel, wipe, install method can also paperweight your phone.
Good luck.
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thanks guys. Right now, I haven't flashed a new ROM as of yet. Is there one that you would recommend. I'd rather wait till CM is in beta stage, and I have checked out Phantom's rom.
I did try installing a kernel FE22 i believe, and thought it would have recovery in it, but getting into recovery mode, I don't see Clockwork mod. Am i doing it incorrectly? Which kernel would u recommend. Thanks!
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I'm not sure what you've done so far but this is the method to install stock rooted and also CWM:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=24158551&postcount=9980
From there, you can flash anything you want. I would REALLY recommend sticking with a Gingerbread rom for a while. Flashing over to the leaked ICS builds can be pretty hazardous if you're not absolutely certain of how it's done.
I prefer Calkulin's 3.0 GB rom found here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1332837
It may look stock but believe me it is not. There are a few themed GB roms around to try also.
Wicked sensations is an awesome ICS ROM by Team Venum.
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I have what may appear to be a pretty dumb question. I am running EL29 stock but rooted with Rogue Recovery which states it is CWM 5.0.2.7 I believe. I've been told that Rogue is not currently a safe recovery. I would like to know if there is a way to get my phone to where when I boot into recovery it is CWM and not Rogue ?? Hope this makes sense. I've searched for delete Rogue recovery to no avail. Any help would be appreciated.
thanks in advance.
Longball said:
I have what may appear to be a pretty dumb question. I am running EL29 stock but rooted with Rogue Recovery which states it is CWM 5.0.2.7 I believe. I've been told that Rogue is not currently a safe recovery. I would like to know if there is a way to get my phone to where when I boot into recovery it is CWM and not Rogue ?? Hope this makes sense. I've searched for delete Rogue recovery to no avail. Any help would be appreciated.
thanks in advance.
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Here is the Kernel Repository maintained by RWilco. Just pay attention to the notes and the descriptions for each group and then read the threads linked for each.
:edit: Side note - Do NOT use Rom Manager to apply kernels/recovery for this phone.
If you need directions and helpful information, and if you haven't already, read this. [TUT] What Is ClockworkMod And How To Use It [Complete Guide] [VeNuM]
I'm so very confused as to what to do right now. I just bought an e4gt phone that I was told was rooted and flashed to cricket already, but when I get home, no custom recovery and I su doesn't respond to auto allow requests from superuser.apk, so I figure it lost root on that ics update. It's saying it's Fl24, and upon following various threads and stickies and videos, I'm absolutely overwhelmed, especially considering e4gtauto-sfx.exe and e4gtauto.zip are missing from their download links in a monster thread here in xda, so any help would be appreciated...
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I'm so very confused as to what to do right now. I just bought an e4gt phone that I was told was rooted and flashed to cricket already, but when I get home, no custom recovery and I su doesn't respond to auto allow requests from superuser.apk, so I figure it lost root on that ics update. It's saying it's Fl24, and upon following various threads and stickies and videos, I'm absolutely overwhelmed, especially considering e4gtauto-sfx.exe and e4gtauto.zip are missing from their download links in a monster thread here in xda, so any help would be appreciated...
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Don't necro post. And go read the stickies in the general section.
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Don't necro post. And go read the stickies in the general section.
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Okay, now I would just like to say, as long as you necro post in a thread relevant to your isssue/question you shouldn't be responded to in that manner^^^
If it's already there and they post a new one they get flamed like hell for it, at least they took the initiative to actually search obviously!
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Okay, now I would just like to say, as long as you necro post in a thread relevant to your isssue/question you shouldn't be responded to in that manner^^^
If it's already there and they post a new one they get flamed like hell for it, at least they took the initiative to actually search obviously!
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That's the problem, his questions don't pertain directly to CWM. He just says that there is not one on his phone. Basically, he is asking about how to get root back on a device that sounds like it actually wasnt rooted, and that is a completely different subject. And even if he was directly asking about CWM, the answer is in the post right above his. So he my have searched, but he isn't reading.
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All sorted out now, and you're right, it was all there for me to find. The issues with this phone regarding bricked devices and various unsafe recoveries and kernels WAS overwhelming, but after a couple days of lurking the stickies and all the other related threads I believe I've got at least a working awareness of the situation. For anyone else who comes after me, agats tREC CWM based recovery combined with the fl24 kernel as compiled by garwynn is a good place to begin, and qbking77's video tutorials will go a long way to getting you up to speed. Thanks (for nothing ) folks, this e4gt will live to see another day!
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All sorted out now, and you're right, it was all there for me to find. The issues with this phone regarding bricked devices and various unsafe recoveries and kernels WAS overwhelming, but after a couple days of lurking the stickies and all the other related threads I believe I've got at least a working awareness of the situation. For anyone else who comes after me, agats tREC CWM based recovery combined with the fl24 kernel as compiled by garwynn is a good place to begin, and qbking77's video tutorials will go a long way to getting you up to speed. Thanks (for nothing ) folks, this e4gt will live to see another day!
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Easiest way is to Odin full restore (rooted) the desired ROM. As of now I'd say GB27
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2191954
[LINK][ROM][ODIN][TAR]SPH-D710 GB27 (GB27 Modem/Kernel/ROM - Root/Stock)
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Well, while that is the newer repack, i wouldn't day it's the EASIEST method, because the vast majority (dare i say all?) of AOSP based ROMs specifically instruct you to "not use with a JellyBean modem." Following your method, they'd have to Odin flash to gain root, mobile Odin their CWM recovery, then follow ir up with flashing back to an ICS modern, re updating their carrier data & PRL (as well as nv items n all that) then get on to the ROM flashing business. If they start with FL24, they're able to side-step the whole modem compatibility consideration and jump right into flashing their custom OS of choice. Unless, of course, they decide to go with something that's TouchWiz based. But having been new to this device not that long ago, i can say with confidence that the AOSP based ROMs that reside in the "Android original development" thread are much more appealing to someone who's just gained root and is settling down to tweak their device to the fullest extent that modern development safely allows. So, yes, that is the most updated method, but easiest? Gotta say that was covered in my post...
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Well, while that is the newer repack, i wouldn't day it's the EASIEST method, because the vast majority (dare i say all?) of AOSP based ROMs specifically instruct you to "not use with a JellyBean modem." Following your method, they'd have to Odin flash to gain root, mobile Odin their CWM recovery, then follow ir up with flashing back to an ICS modern, re updating their carrier data & PRL (as well as nv items n all that) then get on to the ROM flashing business. If they start with FL24, they're able to side-step the whole modem compatibility consideration and jump right into flashing their custom OS of choice. Unless, of course, they decide to go with something that's TouchWiz based. But having been new to this device not that long ago, i can say with confidence that the AOSP based ROMs that reside in the "Android original development" thread are much more appealing to someone who's just gained root and is settling down to tweak their device to the fullest extent that modern development safely allows. So, yes, that is the most updated method, but easiest? Gotta say that was covered in my post...
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You have no idea what is the easiest method... Your method had a ton of steps and nothing to do with what was even asked or brought up by the other user.
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You have no idea what is the easiest method... Your method had a ton of steps and nothing to do with what was even asked or brought up by the other user.
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I was a bit cheeky. Apologies. That's what i get for drunk posting... His post was written with the best of intentions. That was no way of me to show my gratitude. However, graydiggy, I'm guessing you weren't hugged enough as a child.... As for what you said about his post, you're half right, the GB27 method would be a fine choice for some purposes. And to clear up the mess i was in when i first posed my question to this thread, that'd have given me root and gotten me back to a happy place. But i didn't expound on my end purpose... I wanted to be able to flash Cyanogenmod, AOKP, etc, etc... And perhaps without the bundled recovery that'd still be a fine route to go, except for the JB modem issue i mentioned, but that's just an extra step. But, on a side note, Garwynn just uncovered some real troubles with the GB27 kernel and custom recovery repack he put out, in case anyone wants to look over it you can find the thread here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=40218765. But, for flashing aosp ROMs, sidestepping the jb modem issue does save a step, so for that purpose, I'd still go with the fl24 one click. In my opinion and for my purposes. So again, sorry for my cheeky-ass post.
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I don't know how many times I was hugged... Who cares? Some people do like me and some don't, because I am brutally honest 95% of the time. When a user offers advice that is lacking or more work than what needs to be done, I tend to let them know how dumb it is and I have no problem doing it. I am not always trying to be a d**k about it, but it comes out that way sometimes...
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Boohoo, I gave bad advice and got called on it, I'm going to pout now :stompsfeet: :sly:
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