Whatever happened with HTC saying it would unlock all bootloaders moving forward?
Has this happened?
Also, I'm hearing that some phones are now coming out with locking devices that you need a special tool to use to even use it, to try and stop rooting.
Is that true?
mcwups1 said:
Whatever happened with HTC saying it would unlock all bootloaders moving forward?
Has this happened?
Also, I'm hearing that some phones are now coming out with locking devices that you need a special tool to use to even use it, to try and stop rooting.
Is that true?
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They're keeping their word. They have a tool called HTCdev unlock. HTC dev unlock s-on unlocks your bootloader not s-off tho. Theyre trying to get each device supported as soon as they're released. As long as your phone is supported by HTC dev unlock you can still root it or if there's a exploit out for your phone
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Does the Desire have a locked bootloader like the nexus one?
If so, is there a way (regardless of legality) to re-lock the phone?
Mainly if there's a hardware problem, or if someone wanted to sell the phone.
The way I see it, if you unlock it and have some fun, but then flash the original rom and re-lock it, no harm no foul.
topdnbass said:
Does the Desire have a locked bootloader like the nexus one?
If so, is there a way (regardless of legality) to re-lock the phone?
Mainly if there's a hardware problem, or if someone wanted to sell the phone.
The way I see it, if you unlock it and have some fun, but then flash the original rom and re-lock it, no harm no foul.
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I read that no one knows how to lock the new boot loader yet.
1) there us no known way to unlock the desire bootloader to allow rooting at this time
2) even if there was without an SPL exploit (we dont have atm) we cant relock
I see.
So nobody has tried to flash a nexus-compatible SPL yet?
I'd assume that it would work without a hitch.
Is there such a SPL exploit for the nexus? If so, we could deduce that one will come around for the desire eventually.
I've just bought my Galaxy Nexus for two days to replace my dead Nexus One.
The UI of ICS is so great but I miss the function from DEVs, like vibrate when the call made.
I have rooted my Nexus One without unlocking the bootloader and I would love to root my Galaxy Nexus without unlocking too.
Is there any DEV going to work on this?
I don't believe anybody is working on this since BL unlock is so simple, and there aren't really any disadvantages (that I know of). In order for root to occur without BL unlock, there would have to be an exploit found in the stock image. Is there a particular reason you don't want to unlock it? You have only had the phone two days, so I imagine your data loss won't be that big of an issue.
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I don't believe anybody is working on this since BL unlock is so simple, and there aren't really any disadvantages (that I know of). In order for root to occur without BL unlock, there would have to be an exploit found in the stock image. Is there a particular reason you don't want to unlock it? You have only had the phone two days, so I imagine your data loss won't be that big of an issue.
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unlocking BL void the warranty
Booker-T said:
unlocking BL void the warranty
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And rooting doesn't? After all, it does allow for modification/deletion of system files. In any case, you can re-lock it just as easily.
Booker-T said:
unlocking BL void the warranty
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Accidentally thanked you haha - missed the quote button.
You can lock it if you have to send it in or return it, you know. The lock command is just as simple as the unlock!
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And rooting doesn't? After all, it does allow for modification/deletion of system files. In any case, you can re-lock it just as easily.
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Rooting doesn't make the splash screen change (the lock under "Google"), so it can be easily unroot by deleting related files in the system and make it look like stock.
Are you sure a unlocked devices can lock again? Nexus One can't do this.
Booker-T said:
Rooting doesn't make the splash screen change (the lock under "Google"), so it can be easily unroot by deleting related files in the system and make it look like stock.
Are you sure a unlocked devices can lock again? Nexus One can't do this.
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Yes, "fastboot oem lock" will re-lock the bootloader and make the padlock go away. Here is the write-up by droid-life (I can't view it at work, so I hope it has the right info!)
http://www.droid-life.com/2011/12/1...the-bootloader-and-return-to-a-factory-state/
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Yes, "fastboot oem lock" will re-lock the bootloader and make the padlock go away. Here is the write-up by droid-life (I can't view it at work, so I hope it has the right info!)
http://www.droid-life.com/2011/12/1...the-bootloader-and-return-to-a-factory-state/
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Mine one is the GSM one, I have searched on Googles, there is no GSM version re-lock tutorial there, so I doubt GSM version cannot re-lock.
And I don't have the stock image.
Booker-T said:
Mine one is the GSM one, I have searched on Googles, there is no GSM version re-lock tutorial there, so I doubt GSM version cannot re-lock.
And I don't have the stock image.
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I thought the GSM factory image was pretty widely available?
http://www.theverge.com/2011/12/4/2610060/google-galaxy-nexus-factory-image-restore-phone
I am fairly certain people with the GSM variant have re-locked their phones, but I would check the Nexus android development section (GSM) for proof.
I've tested relocking and can confirm it works fine
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Booker-T said:
unlocking BL void the warranty
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I feel like this is a myth. You're not using an exploit, or anything like that, you're using a manufacturer provided tool to unlock the bootloader. Taken from android.com:
On Nexus One, Nexus S, Nexus S 4G, Xoom, and Galaxy Nexus, the bootloader is locked by default. With the device in fastboot mode, the bootloader is unlocked with
$ fastboot oem unlock
The procedure must be confirmed on-screen, and deletes the user data for privacy reasons. It only needs to be run once.
On Nexus One, the operation voids the warranty and is irreversible.
On Nexus S, Nexus S 4G, Xoom, and Galaxy Nexus, the bootloader can be locked back with
$ fastboot oem lock
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I would love a way to root without unlocking the bootloader -- coming from the Nexus One, which I easily rooted without ever touching the bootloader -- it didn't occur to me that rooting would require unlocking the bootloader. Of course, I wish now that I'd unlocked the bootloader right when I took the phone out of the box, which is, I see now, what everyone recommends. But I've more data on the phone than I want to deal with losing right now.
So if anyone following this thread turns up a way to root without unlocking the bootloader, please let us know!
You won't see this feature arrive until manufacturers start selling ICS phones with locked bootloaders (I'm looking at you HTC, LG, etc). Devs will then try to punch a hole through the OS instead of using simple fastboot commands, as the bootloader will be locked down.
I don't understand why you would wait though, just fastboot oem unlock, root, then fastboot oem lock. The only way your warranty is going to be voided is if you have a rooted rom, that padlock means nothing on the Galaxy Nexus. IF THEY SEE SUPERUSER, THEY KNOW YOU ROOTED. They don't give a **** about the splash screen
This is my first time to use htc phone. I am not understand the bootloader. How can I unlock it and root the phone?
t2950486 said:
This is my first time to use htc phone. I am not understand the bootloader. How can I unlock it and root the phone?
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Currently you can only do this via HTC see here. However, it will void some aspect of your warranty if later on you need to send it back for repair, as HTC keeps a record of the phone have been unlocked by them.
I'm waiting until some clever developers come up with another way so we can unlock it without going through HTC.
Check the sticky in the Development thread, there are already "How to" guides posted.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1556771
Although as Bigmille says, if you use the HTCdevelopers.com official method to unlock the bootloader, it's possible it may void your warranty, if HTC claim that any fault is caused by you loading unofficial software onto your phone. You should be fine for strictly hardware issues, though - as long as they can't claim they were caused by any software you loaded.
The official bootloader unlock leaves traces behind, so even if you re-lock your phone before returning it, they will know that you have unlocked it.
I'm hoping that we will have unofficial S-Off methods soon, so we can return the phone to factory state without the warranty being affected.
If I want to root, I need to unlock bootloader. But we should wait for the other S-OFF method, not use the HTCdevelopers.com official method. Is it right?
The choice is yours, really. Not sure if I'll wait or not, but for now I'm giving myself a few days with the phone before I decide, just to make sure I want to keep it. Though I think I will.
And I'm not sure how long I'll be able to wait before I root.
So many people already unlocked, so having all those unlock codes, doesn't it allow to create an unlock tool that wouldn't require htcdev?
schriss said:
So many people already unlocked, so having all those unlock codes, doesn't it allow to create an unlock tool that wouldn't require htcdev?
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No. Unlocking the baseband to accept other networks is completely different than unlocking the bootloader and getting it into S-OFF mode.
Talking about unlocking bootloader without htcdev.com
Simple answer NO - there is no other way atm.
there may be in the future tho. its gonna take some time.
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Talking about unlocking bootloader without htcdev.com
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I know. You can't do it at the moment. If you mean SIM unlock codes then they're not for the same thing. If you mean the htcdev unlock token then no again as they're specific for your phone and requires you to upload a unique phone identifier first. Nobody except HTC knows how to generate the bootloader unlock tokens at the moment and it won't give you S-OFF even if you did.
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So many people already unlocked, so having all those unlock codes, doesn't it allow to create an unlock tool that wouldn't require htcdev?
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I guess you mean create some sort of key generator for the unlock code. Seems a reasonable idea to me but I, unfortunately, don't have the skills.
We would have to gather information from a number of devices ie. Unlock_code.bin and the corresponding device data (whatever that is exactly) for somebody to work with.
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I guess you mean create some sort of key generator for the unlock code. Seems a reasonable idea to me but I, unfortunately, don't have the skills.
We would have to gather information from a number of devices ie. Unlock_code.bin and the corresponding device data (whatever that is exactly) for somebody to work with.
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Exactly. Many people would like to unlock while keeping warranty. I personally do not care about S-Off, what I want is to be able to flash custom ROM and still have warranty, I think that's what most users want.
I personally will probably go with htcdev, but depending which is easier to do: S-Off or unlock generator, that's where it would make sense to focus development on.
No skills here either :-( Just an idea.
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Exactly. Many people would like to unlock while keeping warranty. I personally do not care about S-Off, what I want is to be able to flash custom ROM and still have warranty, I think that's what most users want.
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You want S-OFF if so. If you unlock using the htcdev bootloader unlock token then it'll be unlocked which is fine. The problem is if you want to relock it again for warranty which is done with a fastboot command. It will go to the RELOCKED state instead of back to LOCKED so it will be clear that you've messed with the bootloader.
Creating a generator for the unlock tokens by inspecting known tokens isn't going to be easy. It is highly likely that HTC are using public key cryptography here as most manufacturers have moved towards that for security.
I know it's possible on Nexus devices using an app like this one.
Is it possible on the HTC One X?
The reason I want this is to prevent others from accessing my information if my phone is stolen (the screen lock is useless if the attacker knows how to enter recovery mode and extract the information directly).
Thank you!!
Nuwanda612 said:
I know it's possible on Nexus devices using an app like this one.
Is it possible on the HTC One X?
The reason I want this is to prevent others from accessing my information if my phone is stolen (the screen lock is useless if the attacker knows how to enter recovery mode and extract the information directly).
Thank you!!
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As far as am concerned, i don't think the bootloader can be looked with a password. the phone can be wiped while in bootloader mode
aromerblz said:
As far as am concerned, i don't think the bootloader can be looked with a password. the phone can be wiped while in bootloader mode
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I didn't mean locking the bootloader with a password. I meant locking it in the same that it's locked when you buy the phone.
What I need is a way to unlock the bootloader without wiping. On Nexus devices it's possible by using the app I linked (though you need root for it to work). I was wondering if there was an app like that one for HTC phones, or an adb command, or anything that would allow me to to unlock the bootloader without wiping. I know it's not possible without root, but maybe there is a way on a rooted phone.
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I didn't mean locking the bootloader with a password. I meant locking it in the same that it's locked when you buy the phone.
What I need is a way to unlock the bootloader without wiping. On Nexus devices it's possible by using the app I linked (though you need root for it to work). I was wondering if there was an app like that one for HTC phones, or an adb command, or anything that would allow me to to unlock the bootloader without wiping. I know it's not possible without root, but maybe there is a way on a rooted phone.
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The only way HTC allows to unlock is via HTCdev.com and that will wipe the phone.