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Hey guys,
I'm sorry if this has been asked before - I did a search around but found nothing, surprisingly. Question is, if I flash my HTC One X (which is currently stock and on a plan with Vodafone, so full of 'bloatware' and 'outdated' builds) with the 'universal' (unlocked?) stock ROM will my original warranty be voided? My main reasons for wanting to do this is remove a few unnecessary apps that Vodafone include and make sure I'm receiving the latest OTA updates straight from HTC. Obviously I can continue to wait for the updates and turn a blind eye to the 'crapware', but if I'm able to flash the official stock ROM straight from HTC then I'd much rather do that, just need to make sure no warranty issues will arise as I'd hate to have such a beautiful device collecting dust because I was too impatient or ignorant to check beforehand.
Thanks for any suggestions or help,
DJ GLiTCH
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If you are going to flash any ROM (including stock) you will need to unlock your bootloader first (via HTC dev) and install CWM Recovery. The act of unlocking you bootloader voids your warranty. They keep a note of all of the phones that they have unlocked. You may still be covered for physical defects (although maybe not) and you definitely won't be covered for anything software related.
gifton1 said:
If you are going to flash any ROM (including stock) you will need to unlock your bootloader first (via HTC dev) and install CWM Recovery. The act of unlocking you bootloader voids your warranty. They keep a note of all of the phones that they have unlocked. You may still be covered for physical defects (although maybe not) and you definitely won't be covered for anything software related.
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Not technically true.
HTC clearly state that unlocking your bootloader *may* void *certain* parts of your warranty. In other words if you screw up your phone as a result of flashing roms then your on your own. If your phone develops a fault then it's covered.
HTC can't possibly keep a note of what phones have been unlocked. How can they? When you go through HTCDev.com you get sent the unlock file which you then have to flash. Only because HTC sent you this file it does not mean that you have flashed it - you may have changed your mind afterwards.
Once you unlock your bootloader and flash a custom rom you can choose you revert back to Stock by relocking then flashing the Vodafone branded RUU file. Providing you don't balls up your phone during this process your entire warranty will remain intact, including software issues.
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Not technically true.
HTC clearly state that unlocking your bootloader *may* void *certain* parts of your warranty. In other words if you screw up your phone as a result of flashing roms then your on your own. If your phone develops a fault then it's covered.
HTC can't possibly keep a note of what phones have been unlocked. How can they? When you go through HTCDev.com you get sent the unlock file which you then have to flash. Only because HTC sent you this file it does not mean that you have flashed it - you may have changed your mind afterwards.
Once you unlock your bootloader and flash a custom rom you can choose you revert back to Stock by relocking then flashing the Vodafone branded RUU file. Providing you don't balls up your phone during this process your entire warranty will remain intact, including software issues.
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If you unlock and afterwards relock the bootloader again, in fastboot mode it says bootloader RELOCKED and not LOCKED. That`s how they see it.
I spoke to Vodafone Australia and they assured me that the act of unlocking alone does NOT void your warranty, however once you make a modification, warranty is gone. So yes, flashing another Rom will void warranty
Sent from my HTC One X using XDA
dr9722 said:
Not technically true.
HTC clearly state that unlocking your bootloader *may* void *certain* parts of your warranty. In other words if you screw up your phone as a result of flashing roms then your on your own. If your phone develops a fault then it's covered.
HTC can't possibly keep a note of what phones have been unlocked. How can they? When you go through HTCDev.com you get sent the unlock file which you then have to flash. Only because HTC sent you this file it does not mean that you have flashed it - you may have changed your mind afterwards.
Once you unlock your bootloader and flash a custom rom you can choose you revert back to Stock by relocking then flashing the Vodafone branded RUU file. Providing you don't balls up your phone during this process your entire warranty will remain intact, including software issues.
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Actually, as pointed out by Gee2012 above, the bootloader says Relocked if you lock it again - so it is fairly obvious. This is irrelevant anyway as they have your phone imei number which is most probably what they use - they aren't stupid!
And from what I have been reading - HTC are being funny when people are trying to claim on warranty even if it is a physical defect that you have, once you have unlocked your bootloader. See here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1631610
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Actually, as pointed out by Gee2012 above, the bootloader says Relocked if you lock it again - so it is fairly obvious. This is irrelevant anyway as they have your phone imei number which is most probably what they use - they aren't stupid!
And from what I have been reading - HTC are being funny when people are trying to claim on warranty even if it is a physical defect that you have, once you have unlocked your bootloader. See here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1631610
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Yes I know it says relocked but HTC arnt keeping a "note" as such at the point of unlocking via HTCDev.
I sent my HOX back due to dust under the screen with the bootloader relocked and I received it back good as new (still unlocked).
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Yes I know it says relocked but HTC arnt keeping a "note" as such at the point of unlocking via HTCDev.
I sent my HOX back due to dust under the screen with the bootloader relocked and I received it back good as new (still unlocked).
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They gave your phone back due to a hardware issue - fair enough. But if you went back for example with poor signal quality, even if you have flashed your original RUU, I very much doubt they would consider that under warranty anymore. They know you have unlocked the bootloader and tinkered with the software (even tho you are now back on stock). Have a lock at the link that i posted - it seems to be pretty murky water!
I also think that it also varies from servicecenter to servicecenter how they cope with this procedure or protocol. Some are more strict than others. I once took a bricked I9000 (due to a bad flash) to Dynafix and they repaired it under warranty!
It was running a custom rom and kerrnel.
Thank you all very much for your responses. I'm sorry for the delay, but for some reason never received any email notifications of replies.
I understand that flashing 'may' void warranty, depending on how far you go with the whole unlocking the bootloader and custom roms, but my concern is with flashing a non-carrier orientated stock rom. Such that I can revive updates quickly and OTA without needing the delay of Vodafone and the like, as well as removing all of their 'useful apps' they include inside their roms which I cannot remove.
Not trying to go off topic here either, but I come from a Samsung background (upgraded from the original Galaxy S) and was just wondering if the flashing process is similar? Like I'm guessing there is no odin for HTC, but clockwork mod and the rest are still around, correct? Not after instructions, just curious, as I'm trying to avoid losing my warranty and would likely only flash stock roms (for the time being at least, until I cave in). Cheers.
According to Vodafone, you will lose your warranty regardless of what you flash whether its stock based or not. They also said that simply rooting voids it as well.
However you might be able to flash the stock RUU for voda which may cover your tracks. I'm not 100% though.
As for flashing, Im still stock at the moment but from what I gather it is the same with respect to clockworkmod recovery and what not. But just double check any OPs before you start though lol
Sent from my HTC One X using XDA
Hi guys, i have a question, i want to return my phone for warranty and i've read this thread that if your bootloader is showing 'relocked' you cannot return the device for warranty.
I am here to ask if there is a way to make the bootloader show 'locked' bootloader instead of 'relocked'?
it would be GREATLY appreciated if you could help me. thanks!
for those who want to relock their bootloader can follow the instructions here
There is no way to do that ATM.
If the problem is the hardware issue, HTC should honor the warranty.
ckpv5 said:
There is no way to do that ATM.
If the problem is the hardware issue, HTC should honor the warranty.
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actually i'm looking to sell the phone, the phone have no issues whatsoever, but if the person i sell to wants to claim warranty, it may be an issue.
Not possible. When you got your unlock bin from HTC, it logged the device info. There gonna know right away it was tampered with.
rayford85 said:
Not possible. When you got your unlock bin from HTC, it logged the device info. There gonna know right away it was tampered with.
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so that means there is no option to claim warranty unless i pay for the 'fines' or charges that incur to repair my device?
zincsnow said:
so that means there is no option to claim warranty unless i pay for the 'fines' or charges that incur to repair my device?
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Correct. From what I've read, unlocking voids the warranty instantly (even tho htcdev says it "could" void your warranty) So any repairs are gonna cost you.
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I saw this
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OK.. while trying to re-flash my phone after messing up, I tried to re-lock (fastboot oem lock) and it put up 3 messages, 1 succeed, 2 failed, on reboot of phone it read locked.
Yes!! Locked not re-locked ! I forgot I had not flashed stock recovery ! So triued to unlock, it worked but I could not flash stock recovery, failed, but I could re-lock with same LOCKED message, if I then went from HBoot to Fastboot I got a new menu SECURITY .. bellow locked a message SECURITY WARNING, if I select SECURITY menu then I get a new screen , KEYCARD failed, and reboots.
Anyway the LOCKED was enough to get the phone swapped as its two weeks old, any way after charging and attempting RUU again it locked on black HTC screen most times it booted.
Still maybe this menu holds a key to S-OFF, and maybe the relock failing can be replicated, it seems to have sent only 1 of 3 parts if the file across, so if you phone is bricked maybe you can give it a shot for htc service cover by part re-locking in some way.
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/7526938/IMAG0439.jpg
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/7526938/IMAG0384.jpg
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and was hoping we could make some headway on it.
I noticed you are on Vodafone Australia.
I spoke to multiple stores and service reps and each of them said the same thing, that merely unlocking the bootloader will not void your warranty with them assuming a hardware fault. They even allowing discussion of bootloader unlocking in their community forum.
They did say however that flashing custom roms and rooting will void your warranty as per usual and any damage caused as a result of overclocking or messing with voltages etc is not covered.
I don't know if that is any help, but they seem pretty good about it so long as you didnt cause any actual damage yourself
kylec said:
I noticed you are on Vodafone Australia.
I spoke to multiple stores and service reps and each of them said the same thing, that merely unlocking the bootloader will not void your warranty with them assuming a hardware fault. They even allowing discussion of bootloader unlocking in their community forum.
They did say however that flashing custom roms and rooting will void your warranty as per usual and any damage caused as a result of overclocking or messing with voltages etc is not covered.
I don't know if that is any help, but they seem pretty good about it so long as you didnt cause any actual damage yourself
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Unfortunately I bought it outright from All phones. Don't think they'll accept it. but never mind anymore, I sold my HTC one x. I put up a *phone has boot loader unlocked* note on the ad
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Hey guys, i wouldnt really open this question but i've tried nearly everything and all of them failed. I got this phone like 5 days ago from germany so its international one. with the official updates, i updated my device to JB(4.1.1) but now i cant root it in anyway. And i cant go in to recovery, it shows a phone under a big red caution logo. i dont want to unlock my bootloader because i just got this phone and i dont want to void the warranty. if you know any way how i can root or unlock bootloader without voiding warranty please let me know.
programs i used:
RootBootV3
Hasoon2000's all in one kit
Unlock Root
Simon's htc utility ( was trying to unlock bootloader without htcdev)
Bin4ry's restore with root
super one click v2.3.3
root-one-x
these are the ones i remember please help!
It's unfortunately impossible to root without unlocking bootloader.
And impossible to unlock bootloader without voiding warranty.
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ereneren564 said:
Hey guys, i wouldnt really open this question but i've tried nearly everything and all of them failed. I got this phone like 5 days ago from germany so its international one. with the official updates, i updated my device to JB(4.1.1) but now i cant root it in anyway. And i cant go in to recovery, it shows a phone under a big red caution logo. i dont want to unlock my bootloader because i just got this phone and i dont want to void the warranty. if you know any way how i can root or unlock bootloader without voiding warranty please let me know.
programs i used:
RootBootV3
Hasoon2000's all in one kit
Unlock Root
Simon's htc utility ( was trying to unlock bootloader without htcdev)
Bin4ry's restore with root
super one click v2.3.3
root-one-x
these are the ones i remember please help!
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You have to unlock your boot loader which isn't even hard takes literally no effort I did it the second day i got my phone
So ill have to void warranty in anyways? :/ thanks
ereneren564 said:
So ill have to void warranty in anyways? :/ thanks
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Depending on where in the world you purchased your phone, you can often rely on consumer protection laws, typically they make the retailer responsible for hardware defects, not the manufacturer.
Hello, i have a HTC One M9 and I want unlock bootloader without htcdev with sunshine app. But if I use sunshine app i need root my phone and unlock my bootloader with htcdev. But it void the warranty. So how to root my phone without unlocking bootloader?
This is a vicious circle! :crying:
czifraj2 said:
Hello, i have a HTC One M9 and I want unlock bootloader without htcdev with sunshine app. But if I use sunshine app i need root my phone and unlock my bootloader with htcdev. But it void the warranty. So how to root my phone without unlocking bootloader?
This is a vicious circle! :crying:
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their are ways to return the phone to it's out of box factory state, so it looks like it was never rooted
HTCdev.com do not log your usage and deny you repair for requesting an unlock. Their is no proof you ever used it.
clsA said:
their are ways to return the phone to it's out of box factory state, so it looks like it was never rooted
HTCdev.com do not log your usage and deny you repair for requesting an unlock. Their is no proof you ever used it.
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HTC does track that. If you unlocked the bootloader, they know about it.
All they know is you asked for a unlock code. They have no way to prove that you used it.
If you return the phone to it's original state. Theirs nothing they can do.
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HTC does track that. If you unlocked the bootloader, they know about it.
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I don't know if it's as cut & dried as that. Like clsA said, they don't know whether or not you used the unlock token.
HTC's FAQ references the warranty implications and the warranty issue is also referenced in their explanation about unlock vs S-ON/OFF.
From my reading of their explanations, unlocking does not automatically mean warranty claims will be rejected. It simply adds an additional element to the process of determining whether or not the issue is HTC's responsibility or the user's.
computerslayer said:
I don't know if it's as cut & dried as that. Like clsA said, they don't know whether or not you used the unlock token.
HTC's FAQ references the warranty implications and the warranty issue is also referenced in their explanation about unlock vs S-ON/OFF.
From my reading of their explanations, unlocking does not automatically mean warranty claims will be rejected. It simply adds an additional element to the process of determining whether or not the issue is HTC's responsibility or the user's.
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True. But they told me that I would need to send it in if I had any issues, then they would determine if I caused it by unlocking the bootloader or not. (like you said).
I've never made a warranty claim with HTC before, but my guess is that while they'd need the phone to be sent in, they would be looking for physical proof that its bootloader was unlocked. I suppose they might ask you directly if they look at the HTCdev request record, but more likely they'd just check the phone itself.
I'm afraid you probably can't avoid unlocking the bootloader via HTCdev - modders aren't going to spend time on a new method when HTC is being so accommodating. On the flip side, their friendly stance towards modders indicates that they aren't necessarily looking to give them a bum rap.
aooga said:
True. But they told me that I would need to send it in if I had any issues, then they would determine if I caused it by unlocking the bootloader or not. (like you said).
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So basically you trust what HTC told you instead of what you learned here on XDA ?
Maybe HTC will tell you how to S-Off and reset your phone to Stock also
clsA said:
So basically you trust what HTC told you instead of what you learned here on XDA ?
Maybe HTC will tell you how to S-Off and reset your phone to Stock also
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Uh, yes? lol. I would trust what they said (and my experience) over XDA. Even if I reset all the flags, in their system, it showed my phone as being unlocked. I chatted with about 3 people and they all said the same thing.
aooga said:
Uh, yes? lol. I would trust what they said (and my experience) over XDA. Even if I reset all the flags, in their system, it showed my phone as being unlocked. I chatted with about 3 people and they all said the same thing.
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Maybe @nkk71 or @alray can explain it to you better
aooga said:
Uh, yes? lol. I would trust what they said (and my experience) over XDA. Even if I reset all the flags, in their system, it showed my phone as being unlocked. I chatted with about 3 people and they all said the same thing.
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clsA said:
Maybe @nkk71 or @alray can explain it to you better
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i bought a pack of condoms two days ago (actually it was a carton) at the pharmacy not online .... so i have 240 condoms available, and i've used them all up
basically, what i'm saying, it just i bought a pack of condoms.... can you prove i used them
**theoretically** HTCSync Manager, and the CheckinProvidor apk could in **theory** could dial home" and report it, .... still whether true or not, htcdev unlock, is not only as vague as vague can be, but it does say "it may void warranty"... it does not say it voids it defacto (especially if it's a hardware problem)
anyway, TL;DR what this was about anyway.... but if i can that many boxes at the pharmacy, it must be true
nkk71 said:
i bought a pack of condoms two days ago (actually it was a carton) at the pharmacy not online .... so i have 240 condoms available, and i've used them all up
basically, what i'm saying, it just i bought a pack of condoms.... can you prove i used them
**theoretically** HTCSync Manager, and the CheckinProvidor apk could in **theory** could dial home" and report it, .... still whether true or not, htcdev unlock, is not only as vague as vague can be, but it does say "it may void warranty"... it does not say it voids it defacto (especially if it's a hardware problem)
anyway, TL;DR what this was about anyway.... but if i can that many boxes at the pharmacy, it must be true
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Yeah, I get both of your points. I would think the same exact thing too. Especially if I have a custom rom, there theoretically should be no way for them to prove that I USED the token, just that I got the token.
Based on my experience with HTC support (HORRIBLE), I wouldn't be surprised if they just charge you if you got the key.
aooga said:
Yeah, I get both of your points. I would think the same exact thing too. Especially if I have a custom rom, there theoretically should be no way for them to prove that I USED the token, just that I got the token.
Based on my experience with HTC support (HORRIBLE), I wouldn't be surprised if they just charge you if you got the key.
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I can speak from personal experience that HTC will not deny service simply because you unlocked. I s-off'd and modded my M7 to hell and back, and they still fixed the pink camera defect for free.
From what I have heard from over the years, HTC may have some undisclosed methods of knowing when the bootloader has been unlocked, even when the phone has been restored to bone stock. Whether this is true, I cannot say, but I wouldn't be the least bit surprised. HTC's historic friendliness toward modding may well be in part because they know they can tell when you've screwed things up on your own.
So if i ask the token from htcdev and i don't use, void the warranty? But i don't use.
But if i use the token and unlock my bootloader and i buy a s-off and set back the flag: Locked , void the warranty?
What is the best way to root G4, whilst keeping it "friendly" for warranty claims?!?
Hi, forgive me if this thread isn't in the appropriate section.
I have a bit of rooting experience, haven't done much in a few years though, (knowing that there are now several ways to root devices), and have just picked up the G4.
Now I'd like to root the G4, but keep the stock rom, (6.0) and mainly will be just running xposed to edit and muck around with LG's ugly skin. I'd still like to be able to receive OTA updates, (even if the OTA update may remove my root,) as well as hopefully still be fine if I needed to return the device under warren.
I've been reading around and apparently you must unlock the bootloader in order to root for Marshmallow? If i were to still do this, could I keep the stock recovery at least, or if not, would I be able to easily revert to stock with a stock recovery and relock the bootloader?
Apologies for my ignorance, just trying to figure out if I should really be rooting or just chuck on Nova launcher and be happy with LG's offerings. Cheers
Keep it on a stock rom and if yoi have a carrier varient then try to not change the boot logo lol idk just a guess.
Jared_Anderson said:
Hi, forgive me if this thread isn't in the appropriate section.
I have a bit of rooting experience, haven't done much in a few years though, (knowing that there are now several ways to root devices), and have just picked up the G4.
Now I'd like to root the G4, but keep the stock rom, (6.0) and mainly will be just running xposed to edit and muck around with LG's ugly skin. I'd still like to be able to receive OTA updates, (even if the OTA update may remove my root,) as well as hopefully still be fine if I needed to return the device under warren.
I've been reading around and apparently you must unlock the bootloader in order to root for Marshmallow? If i were to still do this, could I keep the stock recovery at least, or if not, would I be able to easily revert to stock with a stock recovery and relock the bootloader?
Apologies for my ignorance, just trying to figure out if I should really be rooting or just chuck on Nova launcher and be happy with LG's offerings. Cheers
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Yes to reflashing stock rom
Yes to relocking the bootloader
So you are clear to make whatever modifications you want, you can always revert safely.
Vseprz said:
Yes to reflashing stock rom
Yes to relocking the bootloader
So you are clear to make whatever modifications you want, you can always revert safely.
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Once your bootloader is unlocked, you cannot relock it. Your device will always show a message saying "Bootloader unlocked" after turned on. Warranty is likely to be declined then. BTW: You have to get your unlock.bin file from lg, agreeing to void your warranty. So, even if you smash your screen and they cannot see the message, lg knows it is out of warranty.
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Once your bootloader is unlocked, you cannot relock it. Your device will always show a message saying "Bootloader unlocked" after turned on. Warranty is likely to be declined then. BTW: You have to get your unlock.bin file from lg, agreeing to void your warranty. So, even if you smash your screen and they cannot see the message, lg knows it is out of warranty.
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Since when do you have to get the unlock.bin? We unlock from fastboot. Have you confirmed by trying to relock from fastboot? I read otherwise from another thread.
Furthermore, a quick search around indicates people who have unlocked and rooted have had their warranty honored despite software changes.
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Since when do you have to get the unlock.bin? We unlock from fastboot. Have you confirmed by trying to relock from fastboot? I read otherwise from another thread.
Furthermore, a quick search around indicates people who have unlocked and rooted have had their warranty honored despite software changes.
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Unlock from fastboot is only possible after flashing said unlock.bin file, which can only be obtained by lg and is unique for each device. Furthermore, I had an unlocked, bootlooping h815 and lg refused warranty to me (in Germany). Got my phone replaced by my vendor on eu law which only applies if the defect strikes in the first six months.
So, while some people are lucky to have their phone repaired despite an unlocked bootloader, I'm really happy for them, but lg is not bound to repair it on warranty
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Unlock from fastboot is only possible after flashing said unlock.bin file, which can only be obtained by lg and is unique for each device. Furthermore, I had an unlocked, bootlooping h815 and lg refused warranty to me (in Germany). Got my phone replaced by my vendor on eu law which only applies if the defect strikes in the first six months.
So, while some people are lucky to have their phone repaired despite an unlocked bootloader, I'm really happy for them, but lg is not bound to repair it on warranty
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Ah I see. You have a h815. I have a h811. Our process differs there.
Hmmm, thanks for the info guys. Its not from a carrier, i bought it outright. Seems like i might just have to keep it stock, its not too bad as is, guess ill just have to live with it. Thanks for the help though.
Jared_Anderson said:
Hmmm, thanks for the info guys. Its not from a carrier, i bought it outright. Seems like i might just have to keep it stock, its not too bad as is, guess ill just have to live with it. Thanks for the help though.
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At least you can root with locked bootloader
Not under marshmallow
You can do none of things you listed keeping it stock. First of all google change policy and in marshmallow you need to flash modified boot.img in order to flash custom recovery and/or to root it. As you know the bootloader has to be unlocked but there is no way to relock it. So sorry, but impossible.
People need to understand a simple thing.
You either mod your device and lose warranty or you keep it stock.
It's that simple. People worried about warranties and ota updates are on the wrong site.