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Hey, hope there aren't a lot of threads with the same question but i didn't find one.
I will root my Desire the next days and then want to update to a custom rom.
There are some things i really need:
1. A2SD (that i can store any apps on the SD card)
2. Stable (NO bugs)
3. Sense (maybe normal sense, but might be also a port from the desire HD/Z)
4. Fast-Browser WITH Flash
5. (not so important) a Rom which is not overloaded and themed, i like the way sense looks, with all it's fonts and pictures.
Would ne great if someone could tell my what rom he would suggest for me and my needs.
Thanks
iNsertCoin HD/Z Port 1.9.5
in the video the menu seems to be a bit laggy. and the equalizer doesnt work. not that i need it but i dont like roms where something doesnt work... why would you recommend this to me?
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in the video the menu seems to be a bit laggy. and the equalizer doesnt work. not that i need it but i dont like roms where something doesnt work... why would you recommend this to me?
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One more voice for "iNsertCoin HD/Z Port". I am still using older version "1.8f".. No FCs, very nice and smooth. No lags for me.
Cool sense Cool Z v6 (i can't get V7 to work properly(its still in beta))
The HD roms from my pov, the fonts too small for my old eyes
JonnyZaggi said:
Hey, hope there aren't a lot of threads with the same question but i didn't find one.
I will root my Desire the next days and then want to update to a custom rom.
There are some things i really need:
1. A2SD (that i can store any apps on the SD card)
2. Stable (NO bugs)
3. Sense (maybe normal sense, but might be also a port from the desire HD/Z)
4. Fast-Browser WITH Flash
5. (not so important) a Rom which is not overloaded and themed, i like the way sense looks, with all it's fonts and pictures.
Would ne great if someone could tell my what rom he would suggest for me and my needs.
Thanks
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I have been using the REMIxHD and it all seems to work very well, very fluid lag free flash works standard browser so might give dolphin ago. But then again when I got the LG GT540 on 2.1 thought it was good at the time.
I am using standard leedroid 2.3d. Working great for me and fits into your criteria.
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in the video the menu seems to be a bit laggy. and the equalizer doesnt work. not that i need it but i dont like roms where something doesnt work... why would you recommend this to me?
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The phone runs an older verison of the ROM in the video, which was laggy. EQ does not work, desire lacks of hardware.
I think you should go with a 2.2 Froyo ROM such as LeeDroid and not the HD/Z ports or Gingerbread.
I used to have RCMIXHD 3.0 A2SD and had a great experience with it. Surprisingly fast.
If Sense is not a priority for you, I'd recommend Oxygen or MIUI XJ, way smoother than any Sense HD port.
I used to love sense too. Sense is lovely.
These days though I realise that it's just eye candy - free yourself and get rid of it.
Go for Redux 1.0.2 (Gingerbread) which is the fastest smoothest ROM I've used (and I've used a lot).
Launcherpro has some god damn accurate Sense style widgets built in, and you can easily mod its dock to look the same as the sense dock, so you can have the sense look and feel, whilst still being able to use all the free space that sense usually takes up
This is what I'm currently running and I'm really happy with it.
free yourself and get rid of it.
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I had a HTC hero before and used Android without sense, but the audio player for example sucks ...
i think i will stick to froyo and sense until the official gingerbread+sense comes out and someone has rooted it and created a custom rom.
Or is there anything in gingerbread that ist better than in froyo?
The phone runs an older verison of the ROM in the video, which was laggy. EQ does not work, desire lacks of hardware.
I think you should go with a 2.2 Froyo ROM such as LeeDroid and not the HD/Z ports or Gingerbread.
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Actually i think LeeDroid is overloaded. The pictures i've seen are full with custom logos, fonts, etc, etc.
I Just want the original sense/sense HD style.
What ROM would you recommend? What about the Rooted Stock Roms?
And another question: Does slowing down the CPU when screen ist of (what is possible in some ROM's) really help for more battery life? I'm not really convinced and afraid of destroying anything on my loved HTC Desire..
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Actually i think LeeDroid is overloaded. The pictures i've seen are full with custom logos, fonts, etc, etc.
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There is nothing like that in LeeDroid. i think you are getting a wallpaper
confused with the os. or maybe you saw a boot animation and got it
confused either way it is "stock" sense with tweaks and it runs very
nicely. I swear by it anyway and put it on all my friends desires.
I went to HD roms but they either start running slow or take
too long to open things like the music player, this all bugged me so i
ditched it. I got the feeling that it wasnt designed for this hardware.
It might be good by now but who knows.
With leedroid i set the cpu scaling to "smartass" so it dips when nothing
is happening or the screens off and rises back to the top when in use.
"ondemand" does the same i believe but each governor has its advantages.
This all helps battery life but i cant say how much because ive been
running it for so long i dont notice.
Leedroid also has an intergrated fix for the charge issue with sense roms where
the battery is never at 100% when you take it off charge.
Try StarBurst lite is what you are looking for,
its Stock Sense with simple D2Ext. Kernel is LeeDroid 2.3 from snq - major Battery saver.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=916417
or try dsixda's Kitchen and cook your own Stock ROM with A2SD and just flash snq's Kernel.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=633246
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=11740447#post11740447
Im using coolexe hd version 7,got a2sd sending apps to memory card. Batterys good,pretty much the same,but this is dependant on the amount of apps and things you get id say, The hd sense is much better in my opinion,more customization. Htc.com onboard but only some things work,lovely rom though id take that one a go,insertcoins good also,ive tried aurax also.all good.try them all mate,once you know the score test as many as u want!
A simple, stable gingerbread would be Oxygen 2.0.1.
A feature rich, fully customiseable alternative is the Cyanogen ROM (link in signature).
Choose whatever suits your needs.
I found this topic that is what I want to know. I hope it is not wrong to revive this thread.
I would like to root my Desire soon and update it to a custom rom.
There are some things i need:
1. Stable (NO MAJOR bugs -calls, sms, wi-fi, camera and basic functions should be working with no problems)
2. Android 2.3.4 or 2.3.5
3. A2SD (so i can store any apps on the SD card)
Would like to have, but not a must: Only if it works without laggs and buggs.
4. Sense 3.0 or 3.5 (for example like one from the desire HD)
I have htc Desire with official 2.3.3 Android (that I instaled from htc website) and is not rooted yet. I want to root and instal one of the newest android on my phone.
Therefore I would ask for some help, to help me choose the right one for me. I'm considering one of those:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1315961
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1250815
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1040121
Would be great if someone could tell me which rom would you suggest for me. One of those 3 or perhaps one I misslooked.
I'm sorry for my spelling mistakes...
I'm grateful for any help or suggestion I might get.
Just installed Runnymede AIO V4.0 Special Edition, runs really smooth.
Before i switched to CM7, i used Insert coin and it was really really fast and was stable only reason i switched to CM7 was due to better themes and more settings
This is all really helpful, thanks so much to all you guys for doing this!!
My quick question on this, any of the roms that pretty much emulate a standard experience, e.g. the Starburst, plus app2sd functionality, any of these also support ad hoc wifi?
I believe there are ways of custom installing it, though are there (simple) roms out there which include it already?
Vinneeh said:
Just installed Runnymede AIO V4.0 Special Edition, runs really smooth.
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Me too i have flashed older version of the Runnymede AIO and i am very satisfied ,its stable ,fast ,no laggy ,with htc sense and a lot of updates .The best for me from rom with sense .
Hi, as above I would like to find out which is the best 2.3 Gingerbread ROM with Sense 3.0.
I have updated like probably most to the 2.3 Gingerbread OTA update but Sense 3.0 is missing and probably won't come from HTC seeing as they have stated 3.0 needs the hardware which the DHD isn't in their opinion. But as we know that's bull crap as the DHD can run Sense 3.0.
Just would like to get opinions from frequent ROM users and possibly devs as what's the best one to be looking at as I'm completely new to custom ROM's.
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go with i00's true sense 3.0
very smooth sense 3.0 expierience
Can't believe senior members asks questions like this that may discriminate among the devs..(I have seen moderators discouraging members who asks the same sort of questions!!)
Any way there are only two sense 3.0 roms over xda... i00 and RCmix.... Shoot them one by one and you may find the best one for you.
well if you insist then... After using RCmix for a while, I flashed an i00, and is working as my daily driver.... no operational bugs so far...
Im stuck at the crossroad too.
What is the difference between i00 5.3 and rcmix Kingdom 0.2?
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Im stuck at the crossroad too.
What is the difference between i00 5.3 and rcmix Kingdom 0.2?
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Tried both.. i00 boots up much faster runs smoother updates weather but doesnt recognize chinese korean japanese chracters..
kingdom boots a bit slower, meaning sticky on the scrolling in program but smoother on the sense
Hi thanks all, I appreciate the input as I'm new to ROM's I may have been here a while but have just stuck with stock.
Can anyone confirm do both the Kingdom and i00 ROM's have root access already? They both look excellent so I wasn't sure. I'm now looking at ROM's as the 2.3 update all us stock users had really is missing Sense 3.0 so these ROM's actually are better by the looks than what HTC themselves give us
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Leedroid GB with latest kernel is extremely fast GB rom, and apply kingdom lockscreen for the extra 3.0 sense elements!
well i want to take part of this thread...
i tried many possibilities for have the sense 3.0 and finally like my signature says this is my super stable, beautiful & fast combination
really for me... lee bailey´s roms are totally awesome
EDIT:i used kingdom´s sense 3.0 (weather, mms, etc...)
lockscreen goes by default with kalagas theme
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Any way there are only two sense 3.0 roms over xda... i00 and RCmix.... Shoot them one by one and you may find the best one for you.
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not true.. you can add sense 3.0 to your gb rom (only with pure framework like WEE 2.3xx) see kingdom thread in dev. secction
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Shoot them one by one and you may find the best one for you.
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i think that he can ask like he desire... for obtain a lot of advises or suggestions,,, WHY NOT? no one it´s discriminating anybody
Sukuya said:
Tried both.. i00 boots up much faster runs smoother updates weather but doesnt recognize chinese korean japanese chracters..
kingdom boots a bit slower, meaning sticky on the scrolling in program but smoother on the sense
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There is a mod for this in the MODs post
Edit: this will also be built in to the next version
Kris
Can either the Kingdom or i00 rom be used for daily use yet?
Just I noticed some functionality like srs isn't working from the bug list. Just wondering which is the closest to perfection?
I have tried both, and the latest Kingdom release beats i00 hands down.
Kingdom's 'Android' widget ratios are just about spot on, so none-Sense widgets display correctly. This is a major issue on i00's, and the deal winner for me.
Very stable (no random reboots or f/c's), good battery life and fine for every day use. The autoinstall is an absolute must.
I tried Kingdom - gallery widget is out of line to the left, Twitter widget not working, other widgets far to small as its for a larger screen, video camera and sound is awful and not sure how that latter part can have optimization for DHD as certainly can't record 1080p on a DHD as it already struggles with 720p in stock.
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i thought there were several sence 3 roms
I've tried i00, but switched back to MDJ's ViVO sense which is lightning fast and has almost all Sense 3.0 features.
Basically I'd like to be persuaded as to whether to use a sense rom (e.g ARHD) or a nosense rom (e.g CM7). And if I use CM7 can I install the HTC dialer and messaging app?
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Previously I was using ARHD (sense) and go launcher, and I've just updated to the new ARHD with sense 3. As much as I like it, it's not quite as minimalist as I liked with go launcher and my battery life is not as good (sense is a battery hod, no denying).
I'm tempted to go the other way; CM7 with no sense features. What are the advantages of this? Why do some people prefer no sense?
Can I install the sense APKs of the apps I like? The htc dialer is great, as is the messaging/
I can't answer all your questions however I recently went from RCMix3d 1.4 runny to CM7 and I'm loving the change. The battery life is excellent and it makes me wonder why I was using sense in the first place.
I don't even miss it that much, apart from the odd thing. I'll take longer battery life over flashy show off animations any day
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Basically I'd like to be persuaded as to whether to use a sense rom (e.g ARHD) or a nosense rom (e.g CM7). And if I use CM7 can I install the HTC dialer and messaging app?
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Can I install the sense APKs of the apps I like? The htc dialer is great, as is the messaging/
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No, the HTC apps won't run without the Sense framework.
Beyond that, I'm not going to persuade you with way; the only way to decide is to backup, flash cm7 and see which one you prefer.
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I suggest giving MIUI a try. It is basedd om CM7,has great features and is very easy to customise!
Definately take a look at MIUI as well Its an AOSP rom like CM7 but with some very nice additions. If you like to try out different themes and lots of personalization options MIUI is definately the way to go.
But in the end both ways (sense or no sense) have their advantages. What i dont like about sense is that its so bloated up with stuff you rarely ever use. You can cleane some of it with scripts like rom cleaner but still we're talking 350mb rom (sense) vs 80-90mb rom (CM7 or MIUI).
On the other hand with sense you get one good looking theme and good to very good apps for all the features of your phone. On CM7 you might need to find another app to play music via DLNA for example and another app for weather and so on.
sense and see how you feel if you dont like then go for no sense .....simple really
im with sense atm and feel that it is good
you could try the better of both worlds by flashing DeDense from this thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1207645
Try Helios 0913 for a CM7 rom if you're gonna try one. It'll make you not wanna go back. These forums are crowded with sense roms that look exactly the same and offer nothing different, except some visual stuff, than the other 20 or so sense roms that are here. A good AOSP rom is hard to find on HTC phones now. Like I said though, try Helios or better yet, Hydrogenmod and you'll forget all about sense.
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I love Helios too but, more broadly, I went the way of CM7-based ROMs in general + Lord Clockan's amazing kernels and never looked back.
I never enjoyed such a snappy and responsive device when I was on Sense-based ROMs. Ditto battery life. I'm a massive CyanogenMod fanboy now, and will be flashing Nightlies (which are in a very good condition ATM) until Richfish updates Helios.
People on Sense ROMs have good things to report too, though, so my suggestion (which you've probably already heard a million times) is to try stuff out for yourself.
No one will be able to tell you what you would prefer. Test out a CM rom and a sense rom. Make your own mind up.
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I'd like to know if someone has found a kernel, which would make the sense performance (nearly)completely flawless in roms such as virtuous sense 2.0.0. or insertcoin 1.6 (or another fast sense rom). I like sense and can't be happy with cm7 and other gingerbread styled.
If there were a kernel that made sense run flawlessly I'm sure they would of added it by now...
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I'd like to know if someone has found a kernel, which would make the sense performance (nearly)completely flawless in roms such as virtuous sense 2.0.0. or insertcoin 1.6 (or another fast sense rom). I like sense and can't be happy with cm7 and other gingerbread styled.
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Surely if there was a kernel that could bring Sense up to the general performance of AOSP ROMs it would be included in every Sense-based ROM in the dev section.
Unfortunately this kernel doesn't exist. When it comes down to it, Sense is bigger and more resource hungry than stock AOSP ROMs and it just won't be as fast assuming the same device and clock speeds.
People who run custom Sense ROMs understand this and are willing to take the performance hit in order to have the Sense features that they like.
Hello. I need help regarding the best ROM for my Desire Z. I need either sense 3.0 or sense 3.5 and need the best possible ram as i have already installed 4 ROMs and i have had problems with lags in messages and the lag in circle ring lock. overall homescreens as smooth but i need ram for reading msgs fast and applications launch quickly like on my default sense 2.1. i have tried runnydroid which is probably the fastest in homescreen scrolling but very weak in ram and opening apps. currently running desire HD rom with sense 3.0 v1.3 which is slightly better but i need something better in terms of RAM and with sense 3.0 or 3.5
help would be really appreciated
thanks
first of all, let's clear things out... sense 3.x was never meant to run on our desire z, i say HTC made a mistake when they released an official 3.x update
second, sense 3.x needs LOTS of ram to work. So, you don't have enough ram to run apps, solution? try the v6 supercharger script, set it as multitasking settings...
want more? make a SWAP partition on your sdcard, SWAP makes a part of your sdcard to work as ram...
want even more, you can bulletproof you messages app in order not to automatically kill it when in need of ram
i'll give you links if you want
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Riro Zizo; I'll take you up on that offer of links please!
Stick with AOSP.
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v6 supercharger script & guide: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=991276
SWAP: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1323447
Bulletproof apps: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1012330
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First of all thanks for your kind replies. Riro Zizo thanks alot for these links. Can you tell me which ROM what work the best with these? the thing is that there must be a ROM which would be better in RAM performance. like my desire HD rom was better than runnydroid at least it was usable. now what do u mean by official sense 3.0 update? my last update was android 2.3.3 with 2.1 sense which is why i installed custom roms to get newer sense. thanks a lot
and blackknightavalon what do u mean by AOSP?
thanks a lot
oh one more thing. ive heard that with swap the sdcard gets a lower life and it dies quickly after a while
Android open source project. Like CyanogenMod, for example.
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Same position as you on Desire Z and HAD to have Sense 3 - well after trying Unity and Affinity and another that wouldn't even boot and loads of crashes and mem issues I gave up. Yes I did the swap partition (for Leedroid/Ace but those never would install via CM recovery 5) didn't do the supercharger thing...but eventually went to G-Lite and really happy.
Sense is great but slow/laggy, even on Virtuous Sense or my stock rom...my OTA GB was slow too. Best to find or invest in a few apps or widgets and switch to a non Sense rom like G-Lite cos RAM is a real issue on the Z it seems (reason for rooting apart from the usual privacy/adware stuffs was speed, upset at seeing LOADING every time I opened my homescreen)
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Same position as you on Desire Z and HAD to have Sense 3 - well after trying Unity and Affinity and another that wouldn't even boot and loads of crashes and mem issues I gave up. Yes I did the swap partition (for Leedroid/Ace but those never would install via CM recovery 5) didn't do the supercharger thing...but eventually went to G-Lite and really happy.
Sense is great but slow/laggy, even on Virtuous Sense or my stock rom...my OTA GB was slow too. Best to find or invest in a few apps or widgets and switch to a non Sense rom like G-Lite cos RAM is a real issue on the Z it seems (reason for rooting apart from the usual privacy/adware stuffs was speed, upset at seeing LOADING every time I opened my homescreen)
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I agree... Sense-less ROMs are the best ones and they run the smoothest on Desire Z. I first took on CM7 and then moved to Bulletproof's MIUI which stopped me from selling my phone. However, even then the phone started to lag after a months use. Next step was to move to Elitemod244 which is basically based on CM7 but supercharged and ultra-fast. This stopped me from dumping my phone to get a Galaxy Nexus.
I would recommend that you try Elitemod244 (or the latest version if you want) and then modify it to your liking. It will take some time, but at least your phone will be fast and would work as it should instead of hanging or reloading the launcher time n time again.
thanks for your kind replies but the thing is i NEED sense 3.0 or 3.5 and i will run this desire HD rom if i dont get any other roms. ive already used cyangenmod already but i need sense. are there any roms which might be better than the desire HD rom? and im recently having an issue that i dont receive all text messages and some of these are lost in this particular rom. any way to fix this?
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thanks for your kind replies but the thing is i NEED sense 3.0 or 3.5 and i will run this desire HD rom if i dont get any other roms. ive already used cyangenmod already but i need sense. are there any roms which might be better than the desire HD rom? and im recently having an issue that i dont receive all text messages and some of these are lost in this particular rom. any way to fix this?
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In that case i would go for Virtuous Sense, doesn't have to much bullsht in it..
And for the lost messages, there is standard an app installed in these roms that collects all your messages.
Btw.. I'm surfing xda for 2 years now daily, and today is the first time i made an account Really EVERYTHING about everything has been asked before i came here, so there was no need for it.
Just wanted to say this...
you can try any sense rom you want without any issues if you do all these tweaks i told you about... launcher reloads can be solved by making a file called "local.prop" in /data/ (if you already have the file, edit it) and put this inside it
Code:
ro.HOME_APP_ADJ=1
and reboot... this WILL solve your problem, GUARANTEED
Why do you need Sense that bad? We're trying to get rid of it over on the MT4GS boards.
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thanks for your kind replies but the thing is i NEED sense 3.0 or 3.5 and i will run this desire HD rom if i dont get any other roms. ive already used cyangenmod already but i need sense. are there any roms which might be better than the desire HD rom? and im recently having an issue that i dont receive all text messages and some of these are lost in this particular rom. any way to fix this?
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Just curious, what do you need Sense for?
I was losing text messages also, but I solved that by preventing the messaging apk from being closed. It's a simple setting in Cyanogenmod, but I believe that is what Riro Zizo is talking about when they say Bulletproof an app.
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Just curious, what do you need Sense for?
I was losing text messages also, but I solved that by preventing the messaging apk from being closed. It's a simple setting in Cyanogenmod, but I believe that is what Riro Zizo is talking about when they say Bulletproof an app.
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bulletproofing apps means preventing it from getting killed... you were right
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Blackout incredible has Sense 3.6 And when I apply the v6Supercharger it works pretty fine. But remember that you need to Format your SD card before you install it. It gives you extra performance. atleast it happened to me.
I fully understand why you might want a SENSE rom.
I have tried many roms since my DZ is out of warranty, the Mimicry one was nearly the best, except it had bad performances after some weeks of usage.
And this AOSP was a android 4 rom with nice custom features, but there was a LOT i missed from SENSE. Let's just talk about the weather/clock widget, the audio player, the FM radio app, the nice interface, the perfect virtual keyboard...
Sense really offers the best user experience on that phone.
A few days ago I finally the perfect rom, you should try it: TrickDroid 4.0.0
As told in the corresponding topic on xda, you just absolutely need to enable swap because it's a full Sense 4.
And if you want some specific tweaks from AOSP, of you want to remove some things from Sense, the TrickDroid Tweaks allows you to simply do that.
TrickDroid on xda: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1981059