Develop Bugs

SKYFIRE: Forget Opera and IE

Recently i was searching for a "usable" Browser for my Hermes.
I was tired of NOT being able to view webpages with flash and no crashes at all.
I googled a lot and visited opera's website with excitement about version 9.5 beta http://www.opera.com/products/mobile/..... until i found out it was officially buggy and cames with no flash and probably "out of Memory" messages because of Hermes Rom.
Then i visited netfront website http://www.access-company.com/products/mobile_solutions/netfrontmobile/browser/index.html, but again.... disappointed.
After 15 minutes looking around i read a name which i wasnt familiar with. SKYFIRE. (Saffari and Firefox deja vu?).
It says that comes with full flash support and a desktop browsing experience in your mobile. Sounds too good to be true i thought.
But it WAS true!!!
Skyfire is everything i've always wanted in my Hermes. Full flash support, Zoom, Bookmarks, Terribly fast.
How to get it.
In Skyfire webpage http://www.skyfire.com/product you have to Sign Up with your USA mobile number and your email address in order to download. (HINT: Enter your real email address and if you are not a USA citizen (like me, i'm from CHILE) enter ANY mobile number, the number you enter here will be your password). In 30 seconds you will receive an email giving you the download link, thats it!!.
Try it, you wont regret.
I think this app should be cooked in future ROMS. Im using ROM 3.62.502.19 (Manila2D) HERMES http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=437571 and works like a charm.

download link
thank you for the info but you could post here for those who don't want to submit a false mobile number, right? http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=123797&stc=1&d=1224625522

Mobile number not optional!!
farres said:
thank you for the info but you could post here for those who don't want to submit a false mobile number, right?
download here
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Thanks for your input farres, but signing in skyfire website is necessary. As i said in my post "the number you enter here will be your password".
So you need that number to sign into skyfire once its installed on your Mobile.

Sounds interesting...the only issue I have with IE is the memory usage of around 12MB. About How much memory does Skyfire use?

Memory use
galaxys said:
Sounds interesting...the only issue I have with IE is the memory usage of around 12MB. About How much memory does Skyfire use?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
It uses about 7 or 8MB. Seriously... try it.

no question there, i love it and am using it, even Vodafone apn is no longer blocked so I can use it while on the road! Thanks MR P!!
{
"lightbox_close": "Close",
"lightbox_next": "Next",
"lightbox_previous": "Previous",
"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
"lightbox_new_window": "New window",
"lightbox_toggle_sidebar": "Toggle sidebar"
}

pmedinua said:
Thanks for your input farres, but signing in skyfire website is necessary. As i said in my post "the number you enter here will be your password".
So you need that number to sign into skyfire once its installed on your Mobile.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
you're right mate, I was rushy like usual thank you for the share!

Skyfire on youtube
Nice screens zocster!
No Prob farres.
Here's a youtube video of skyfire in action. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4mWUoxiLZFc
I love it.

I prefer this demo http://www.skyfire.com/product/demo

you do of course realize that Skyfire is almost as bad as Chrome in terms of tracking.
You don't actually web browse on the phone but via their servers and they send a compressed subset down to the phone plus you are doing it with signed account.
Yeah sure they are free just for the sake of it
At least with Opera 9.5 it's running locally
I am not suggesting you be paranoid but just realize why it's so fast and what the gotchas are with that.

Hi!
tt_ttf said:
you do of course realize that Skyfire is almost as bad as Chrome in terms of tracking.
You don't actually web browse on the phone but via their servers and they send a compressed subset down to the phone plus you are doing it with signed account.
Yeah sure they are free just for the sake of it
At least with Opera 9.5 it's running locally
I am not suggesting you be paranoid but just realize why it's so fast and what the gotchas are with that.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I already assumed that
So it's equal to the technique Opera brought to us with Opera mini...
See also this article:
http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2253945,00.asp
I prefer real mobile browsing without streaming my content.
Regards,
scholbert

Yep, I am all aware of the technology behind it. You only use it for certain things just like how you use your ROM.
I have skyfire, opera 8.5 and PIE on my phone, ...

why should we be paranoid about such thing? as long as we dont live in one of these countries where internet is all restricted and you could be shot in the head just for saying the word freedom, I think it's a quite good browser for a pda. read newspapers, blogs, facebook... these are good things. however i wouldn't use it for purchases... like putting in credit card details or real private data.
far from being paranoid but it got me wondering how they would make profit.

Skyfire looked sweet as hell, I got it a while back in the first beta and it would devour my fully charged battery in about 30 mins and the phone would get hottt as hell. If they've fixed it I'd be willing to give it a shot again. Are you having any battery issues while running it?

Skyfire from outside USA
Is there any chance to sign up for skyfire if you are not living in the USA? I am not able to sign up for a new account from Austria. Thanks for help,

dukerider33 said:
Is there any chance to sign up for skyfire if you are not living in the USA? I am not able to sign up for a new account from Austria. Thanks for help,
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
do some search, i think you can sign up with a 'fake' number from a white pages and give correct email, and download on to PC read around it is in the forums

Yes that is what I did, I already downloaded it and installed it, but can't log on to that account. Says it is not verified yet, so I guess I would have to send SMS from the number I created the account with.

dukerider33 said:
Yes that is what I did, I already downloaded it and installed it, but can't log on to that account. Says it is not verified yet, so I guess I would have to send SMS from the number I created the account with.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I have just done the above, and I am able to, just make sure you download from the web instead of waiting for text message. I am using MY own now, instead of Mr P's one that he shared!

zocster said:
I have just done the above, and I am able to, just make sure you download from the web instead of waiting for text message. I am using MY own now, instead of Mr P's one that he shared!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Thanks a lot, that did the trick!! Downloaded my own version from the link they sent and now it works.

Hi!
I use the skyfire since some days. It is good, only you need to know, it's a beta! there are still so few errors which skyfire gradually be resolved. e.g. breaks with me after about 20 seconds of audio stream (at existing EDGE / 3G connection) from. wifi with no problems.
pages are sometimes not displayed, sometimes can not save favorites. These are just some errors that often occur with me. skyfire in the forum are more described.
Nevertheless, it is a great browser, if only because it is now possible, swf and flv streams to see.
Can you only wish so much fun!
translated by google

It's in German, but it's awesome. It's Flory!!

We can finally Gtalk while we WP7 thanks to Flory in the marketplace.
Unfortunately, it's in German.
Fortunately, it's just a matter of inputting username and password and being on your way.
Check it out!!
**UPDATE**
1.6 is now out with English support and Facebook support as well.
So for all those saying app is crap, you're wrong!!

Yep, works fine.
I use it quite a while now and i think, there will be an english version too.
But come on, there isnt really much text you need to read/understand using Flory

at least post a link its nice, ill try gtalk now..
{
"lightbox_close": "Close",
"lightbox_next": "Next",
"lightbox_previous": "Previous",
"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
"lightbox_new_window": "New window",
"lightbox_toggle_sidebar": "Toggle sidebar"
}

http://social.zune.net/redirect?type=phoneApp&id=129a347d-6609-e011-9264-00237de2db9e
Linked.

They said they hope to have the multilanguage version submitted tomorrow

Nice! Seems to work great, even when phone is asleep.. hope it's not a battery hog.

English version finally out

I can't get it to connect to my Facebook, have you been able to?
Sent from my HD7 using Board Express

It's still in german for me. Even uninstalled and downloaded again. Facebook chat is there but the app is in german.
Tried changing regional settings too.

Flory is a CRAPWARE.
Still has no english support although it should be there.
And Facebook just doesn't work. It says I put wrong data.
Crapware.

I just updated, got english and facebook chat now. Works great!

doministry said:
Flory is a CRAPWARE.
Still has no english support although it should be there.
And Facebook just doesn't work. It says I put wrong data.
Crapware.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
The update for English came out yesterday. Works great for me so far.

loofmodnar said:
The update for English came out yesterday. Works great for me so far.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Here in Geman only. Still. Facebook says "error".
Crapware!

One thing I did get from facebook is a message from fb saying "someone signed into your account from a different location.. is this ok?"
Then I logged in via the browser and it showed in Germany the attempted log on. So it's working as a proxy. I told it that was ok... if someone takes over my FB page I'll be sure to scream.. haha.. not that I care that much.

doministry said:
Here in Geman only. Still. Facebook says "error".
Crapware!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I swear your posts are consistently the most negative on this board... You rarely offer anything and bash everything...
As far as the app, I hope Facebook gets fixed and supports push soon.
Sent from my HD7 using Board Express

Hey,
I dunno if this is a problem outside of Germany (where I am right now) but at first I also wasn't able to log into Facebook chat. This was what I did wrong: I put in my E-Mail as loginname (as on Facebook webpage). This is wrong: You have to enter your Facebook nickname:
Go to Facebook webpage, click on "My Profile' on the upper right.
Get the URL:
facebook.com/THISISYOURNICKNAME
Enter that with the correct password and you're done.
Works in Germany
Cheers to the two Florians who're developing that great stuff

FiyaFleye said:
I swear your posts are consistently the most negative on this board... You rarely offer anything and bash everything...
As far as the app, I hope Facebook gets fixed and supports push soon.
Sent from my HD7 using Board Express
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
But I also help as much as I can.
Yes I'm extremely negative to BS right now and many things concerning WP7 are crappy so my bad reaction.

doministry said:
Flory is a CRAPWARE.
Still has no english support although it should be there.
And Facebook just doesn't work. It says I put wrong data.
Crapware.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Delete Flory from your phone and re-download from the marketplace, then you'll have English. At least that's how I managed to get it.

doministry said:
But I also help as much as I can.
Yes I'm extremely negative to BS right now and many things concerning WP7 are crappy so my bad reaction.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Your ridiculous opinion shouldn't be forced upon others with your horrible attitude... I really haven't seen a post where you don't complain...
Sent from my HD7 using Board Express

Flory works absolutely great and flawlessly so far. Thanks a lot for that.

how do I stay logged in at XDA

I use dozens and dozens of forums across the interwebs, and yet I can't seem to stay logged in at XDA and do on every other forum I use. Every time I leave and come back, I have to log in... it gets real real annoying. Am I missing some setting, or is that just the way it is here?

2 words : get chrome
Sent from my HTC Wildfire using xda premium

no thanks...
really, this is a default setting here? no "keep me logged in" setting??

I use opera web browser and manage to always stay logged on on xda whilst on my PC.. The thing is, I auto saved my password/username upon the first entering and also I never log off the forums account. Does the trick.
Sent from my Hero using xda premium

Lock-N-Load said:
I use dozens and dozens of forums across the interwebs, and yet I can't seem to stay logged in at XDA and do on every other forum I use. Every time I leave and come back, I have to log in... it gets real real annoying. Am I missing some setting, or is that just the way it is here?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Tick the stay logged in box, and don't log out.

pulser_g2 said:
Tick the stay logged in box, and don't log out.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
^^ That's all I do and I never have to log in. If this doesn't work for you then check that you have cookies enabled.

Lock-N-Load said:
I use dozens and dozens of forums across the interwebs, and yet I can't seem to stay logged in at XDA and do on every other forum I use. Every time I leave and come back, I have to log in... it gets real real annoying. Am I missing some setting, or is that just the way it is here?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
{
"lightbox_close": "Close",
"lightbox_next": "Next",
"lightbox_previous": "Previous",
"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
"lightbox_new_window": "New window",
"lightbox_toggle_sidebar": "Toggle sidebar"
}
benjamingwynn said:
2 words : get chrome
Sent from my HTC Wildfire using xda premium
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
3 words: Chrome is sh1t!
Lock-N-Load said:
no thanks...
really, this is a default setting here? no "keep me logged in" setting??
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
benjamingwynn said:
Chrome saves passwords for all sites and logs you in auto.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yes but as far as I recall last time I checked it doesn't allow you to create a master password which is a bad lack or security imo.
Firefox is much better.

I don't see this problem, All what I'm dong is to check the "Remember Me" box, and it does it all.
Regards

TheATHEiST said:
Firefox is much better.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Firefox is good for a backup browser, it's heavy as hell. I got almost 1 Gb of RAM used when a lots of tabs are opne. Chrome use half of this with the same tabs opened.
Sent using Mini CM7 Pro by Paul

Felimenta97 said:
Firefox is good for a backup browser, it's heavy as hell. I got almost 1 Gb of RAM used when a lots of tabs are opne. Chrome use half of this with the same tabs opened.
Sent using Mini CM7 Pro by Paul
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Chrome forever baby !
Herpderp Galaxy Ace.

benjamingwynn said:
2 words : get chrome
Sent from my HTC Wildfire using xda premium
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Mozilla Firefox xD

If you use LastPass, you can make a master password and set sites to automagically log you in. This doesn't work on all sites, and some sites will fight LastPass over login protocols, so it's kind of a trial and error thing to get it to gel right with your online experience. Facebook for example works well. Bookmark the root site (Facebook.com) and set it to auto login. It just works. And it works in all the major browsers, even little ole Chrome.
I prefer Firefox... well, Pale Moon... well, Pale Moon Portable, haha. Same difference. Between Adblock Plus, NoScript, and Cookie Whitelist With Buttons (silly name, don't laugh, it does good) and a search box, Chrome just can't keep up. I've been fortunate enough to have avoided the memory leaks that Chrome users say made them switch, and Pale Moon is plenty fast enough for me. I could run Windows 2000 if all I cared about was speed. You start adding features, it slows down a hair, it's a fair trade.
Anyway, I've checked "Remember Me" when I log in, and it still likes to log me out after ~5 minutes of inactivity. Cookies are fine but I'm only accepting first-party cookies (i.e. from xda-developers.com while I'm here). NoScript is blocking a script from netshelter.net. It's allowing them from google-analytics.com, googleapis.com, and of course xda-developers.com.

THIS WIDGET USED 9.5GB!!! in 1 week

thanks to this data usage feature on ics it warned that i was close to 10gb. i had no idea. its the pure news widget. thankfully i have unlimited data. but anyone have any idea how this is happening? i only have 3 news sources.
{
"lightbox_close": "Close",
"lightbox_next": "Next",
"lightbox_previous": "Previous",
"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
"lightbox_new_window": "New window",
"lightbox_toggle_sidebar": "Toggle sidebar"
}

sorry mate can't see ya pic

switch to manual updates.

qman66 said:
thanks to this data usage feature on ics it warned that i was close to 10gb. i had no idea. its the pure news widget. thankfully i have unlimited data. but anyone have any idea how this is happening? i only have 3 news sources.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Google should log the average amount of data an app can use and write it on the market...

That is ridiculous, how often was it updating
Sent from my Desire HD using XDA App

cordell507 said:
That is ridiculous, how often was it updating
Sent from my Desire HD using XDA App
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
for a few days every few hours even though i had it set to 30 minutes it didnt work right. now its been updating every half hour and still the same crazy data. i mean its only a few lines of text for each article. i only have 10 newest showing. it doesnt make any sense. something has to be going on in the background that i dont know of.

hory chit
the battery life was probably terrible if it used this much :/

That's crazy! Have you mailed the developers? It must be images or something, text couldn't add up to that. Maybe leave it connected to your wifi and run wireshark or something (if you've got an adapter that will run promiscuous mode properly) - maybe you can see what it's doing...

jmbillings said:
That's crazy! Have you mailed the developers? It must be images or something, text couldn't add up to that. Maybe leave it connected to your wifi and run wireshark or something (if you've got an adapter that will run promiscuous mode properly) - maybe you can see what it's doing...
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
i havent yet. i have a a little thumbnail image next to the text. this is just strange.

qman66 said:
i havent yet. i have a a little thumbnail image next to the text. this is just strange.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
holy crrrrap....9GB
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using xda premium

This must be a bug, the app developers wouldn't want everyone with their app using this much data from their servers every week!
ErGo_404 said:
Google should log the average amount of data an app can use and write it on the market...
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Good idea.

jmbillings said:
That's crazy! Have you mailed the developers? It must be images or something, text couldn't add up to that. Maybe leave it connected to your wifi and run wireshark or something (if you've got an adapter that will run promiscuous mode properly) - maybe you can see what it's doing...
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Images? Forget about images, this has to be downloading high quality videos to get to 9GB.

I have some serious security concerns about what this app is doing. You should try to sniff the data and see how much its sending versus receiving. I'd be curious to know what IP addresses it is communicating with. Did you install it directly from the market?
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using Tapatalk

Just read the comments on the market for this app. One other person reported it using 833 megs in 10 hours. That was back in July.
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using Tapatalk

It over 9000! (MB)
sent from my E4Gtouch

I used to use pure messenger and calendar widgets without any surprises. That is insane though really...
Sent from my Google phone

Maybe it is a bug in ICS's data use report? Try to contact your carrier to check if you have really used 9GB in the last month.
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using Tapatalk

You should contact the developer, he is very responsive and provide good support.
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using xda premium

Hi,
I am the dev of this app.
1. when you have such trouble, please contact me by email (hopefully somebody did).
2. check if it load images and images sizes. It doesn't load 'thumbnails' from the websites, but full images if thumbnails are not available ... so, if the website use big images of 2Mb ... it can goes quickly.
3. disable widget cache if it was enable
4. here is my widget with 3h refresh period and 8 feeds :
http://pureapps.planethoster.org/images/presentation/pne_data.png
5. if you use the internal viewer, all browsing you does in the viewer is counted ... video streaming, downloads...
@deekjx : For comments about 'security concerns', dump the UDP/TCP trafic if you want, there is nothing hidden. But, please, be careful before publishing such comments. Now, if the app doesn't come from the market, you can be right... few users reported Pure calendar hacked bersions containing viruses because they got it from a 'forum'.
Please, email me logcats just after a manual refresh to check what is wrong.

Same for me too
Switched to manual update worked fine. contacted dev through market

ib.adnxs.com

Every page I go on, on XDA I get two url's in my browsed pages leading to ib.adnxs.com/if?enc=AAAAAAAAAA
Like this
{
"lightbox_close": "Close",
"lightbox_next": "Next",
"lightbox_previous": "Previous",
"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
"lightbox_new_window": "New window",
"lightbox_toggle_sidebar": "Toggle sidebar"
}
Im using IE 8
So when using XDA I'm unable to browse back using the back button in IE as the Url just reloads the same page again no matter how many times i click back
I have to click the main link on the top of the page every time I want to go back
Also we now have add's with sound! so bad!
Just a heads up very annoying

I'm getting the same thing, VERY annoying. Can't use the back button at all.
.

Same here. Extremely annoying!!!
Admins please FIX!!!!

orb3000 said:
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
What is the significance of a red X?
I know, I went to the page and saw the pic.
Nice reply from a mod to problems people are having with the site. Nice!
add volume.liftdna.com to the list.
One time I got five url's between the forum page and the thread page. And clicking the forum link to go back is annoying as you always return to Page 1 of the forum instead of the page you were on.

85gallon said:
What is the significance of a red X?
I know, I went to the page and saw the pic.
Nice reply from a mod to problems people are having with the site. Nice!
add volume.liftdna.com to the list.
.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Is there another thread on this topic? Are the mods doing anything about it? This is a real pain in the a$$.
.

jpeepers said:
Is there another thread on this topic? Are the mods doing anything about it? This is a real pain in the a$$.
.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
From orb's response they don't care. He suggests in an offhand way to install another browser other than internet explorer.

I'll forward this to our Server admin and if there is a problem to solve XDA will do the best to fix it as usual.
In the meantime this thread will be closed.

85gallon said:
From orb's response they don't care. He suggests in an offhand way to install another browser other than internet explorer.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Rest assured, we care. I use IE8 at work, and IE9 at home, so I am not of the use Opera or Chrome mindset. We are looking into the issue now.

NotATreoFan said:
Rest assured, we care. I use IE8 at work, and IE9 at home, so I am not of the use Opera or Chrome mindset. We are looking into the issue now.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Sorry to lump you all in with the response of one. My bad.
Thanks for letting us know you are working on it.

I am not seeing the issue anymore, how about you guys?

Back-button [still] not working in xda-developers on IE
O0Brian0O said:
I am not seeing the issue anymore, how about you guys?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
1. The problem is unchanged for me; I am still seeing the issue, where (just for the sake of clarity):
"the issue" == a. hitting the back-button doesn't appear to change the displayed page when viewing any page of xda-developers.com with Internet Explorer;
b. depending on what page you are viewing, hitting the back-button might or might not change the IE history-list that you see when you click on the little blue triangle to the left of the URL entry text-box drop-down. Ditto for the IE history-list that you see in the IE history "explorer bar" that you get when you choose to "View By Order Visited Today."
I am using IE 9.0.8112.16421.
Note 1: FWIW, my browser doesn't seem to go to any pages in the domain that is the title of this thread. The unexpected pages in my history list (and there are LOTS of them) are all in one of the two following domains: statc.liftdna.com and mediaservices-d-openxenterprise.com.
Note 2: The title of this thread doesn't really help very much those people who are searching for answers to the problem that the back-button doesn't work. Since there seems to be almost a fetish on this forum about the pleasures of searching for previous posts, perhaps the title of the thread can be changed so that more people (and apparent non-people such as newbies like me) will get more satisfaction from their searches?
Note 3: there is another thread on the same topic that someone has opened up (appropriately enough) in the forum:
AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Q&A.
The thread is called "IE Back Button within forums".
Being a newbie, I can't post in such a development forum and point him to here.