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just dreaming: imagine if the evo had a slide out keyboard?

If it had a slide out keyboard and a tilting screen I think I would use that until, well until we start getting mobile devices embedded into out heads.
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Check out the post in the general section about the HTC EVO Shift 4G
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I would have..I would have..never bought it.....

Like the Tilt with Windows Mobile? I mean seriously, there is no need for a physical keyboard in this day n' age. It just takes away from the quality of a solid phone...

keyboard boo!
we need to rise up against ancient technology that keeps reappearing and not improved!
soon we wont have the screen either, it will be projected into our minds. there wont even be a phone either as we will be able to link by thought to others to transfer vocal messages/tweets/meme

you guys raelly think a slide out keyboard would be a step backwards?
i have had several of each of these 8125 8525 8925 and tilt 2 and i loved them for their keyboards. i do a lot of texting, email and web browsing and of course googling on my mobile devices, and while i can say that the onscreen kb works better than i thought it would, it still doesn't compare to a physical keyboard.
to me its kinda like the ipad vs the netbook. which one would you prefer if you had a couple of emails to send out? what if you wanted to work on your school work? my phone is more for work then play, although i do play on it.. alot
i also know that engineering keyboard into the build without sacrificing some bulk is almost impossible but since i am not a design engineer i wont worry about that.
i dor one am eager to see what this evo shift will be. i honestly thought it was some sort of type o

I went from a Touch Pro to a Touch Pro 2 and never thought I'd ever buy a phone without a hard keyboard. When the TP2 died, I decided to give the Hero a try. Definitely sucked due to the screen size (and slowwwww processor) but have been happy with the EVO.
The only advantage I see to a hard keyboard is screen realestate. The soft keyboard covers almost half the screen in portrait and over half the screen in landscape. Other than that, the SIP is good enough at correcting mistakes that I don't really see the need for a hard keyboard for typical day to day EVO usage.

dianneeraser said:
I would have..I would have..never bought it.....
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Me too... I hate slide out keyboards!

potna said:
you guys raelly think a slide out keyboard would be a step backwards?
i have had several of each of these 8125 8525 8925 and tilt 2 and i loved them for their keyboards. i do a lot of texting, email and web browsing and of course googling on my mobile devices, and while i can say that the onscreen kb works better than i thought it would, it still doesn't compare to a physical keyboard.
to me its kinda like the ipad vs the netbook. which one would you prefer if you had a couple of emails to send out? what if you wanted to work on your school work? my phone is more for work then play, although i do play on it.. alot
i also know that engineering keyboard into the build without sacrificing some bulk is almost impossible but since i am not a design engineer i wont worry about that.
i dor one am eager to see what this evo shift will be. i honestly thought it was some sort of type o
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Ipad vs netbook? Netbook everyday, my fingers fit on the keyboard, if a cell had a keyboard my fingers fit on then omg nobrainer I would have it and love it, but for small devices ie cellphones etc where your full hands in home position don't fit then a onscreen keyboard is ideal.

Keyboards are so 1990's.....

Same here...never would have bought it.
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That would be so ****ty. Especially the tilting screen. If I want a Nokia phone I'd get one.

Is there some kind of keyboard attachment?

Is tere any kind keyboard attachment for the EVO, like if its in landscape?? I've seen some BT ones but not sure if they would work for the EVO because there's nothing that says it does. Just thought it would be cool to have.
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Ruki_Uki said:
Is tere any kind keyboard attachment for the EVO, like if its in landscape?? I've seen some BT ones but not sure if they would work for the EVO because there's nothing that says it does. Just thought it would be cool to have.
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Not trying to be a **** but wouldnt you buy an epic if you wanted a keyboard? Yes the build quality isnt there but I wouldnt think it would make much sense to carry a keyboard around.

wingzfan said:
Not trying to be a **** but wouldnt you buy an epic if you wanted a keyboard? Yes the build quality isnt there but I wouldnt think it would make much sense to carry a keyboard around.
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Your completely right. It would make since, and the Epic, I think, had the best keyboard I've seen on a phone. But my buddy has this attachment on his LG dare and it gives him a full keyboard and I just thought it was cool. It would make typing out long text easier and faster. But I agree there really is no need for one, it was just something that crossed my mind and that it would be kinda cool
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I'm definitely interested in one of these if anyone knows of one.

Why wouldn't just get an Epic if you want a keyboard? How about for the same reason I just traded my Epic for an Evo - the Epic, while it has a nice keyboard and a gorgeous SAMOLED display, is a buggy POS with non-working GPS, amongst a whole host of other problems. And my second Epic was better than my original. Glad to be a newly converted Evo owner.

HTC's custom Bluetooth drivers don't support HID devices like keyboards properly, and I really doubt anybody's manufactured an Evo keyboard attachment just for CM6 users.

live2ride96 said:
Why wouldn't just get an Epic if you want a keyboard? How about for the same reason I just traded my Epic for an Evo - the Epic, while it has a nice keyboard and a gorgeous SAMOLED display, is a buggy POS with non-working GPS, amongst a whole host of other problems. And my second Epic was better than my original. Glad to be a newly converted Evo owner.
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yes the epic does have its woes like gps. but buggy it is not. you must have gotten a bad one. cause all the epics that i have played with were much more faster than my evo. the epic's i have played with were as smooth as butter.

eluno said:
yes the epic does have its woes like gps. but buggy it is not. you must have gotten a bad one. cause all the epics that i have played with were much more faster than my evo. the epic's i have played with were as smooth as butter.
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How is problems with GPS not a "bug"? I mean, GPS is one of the most important thing a smart phone does.
"Except for not doing the most important thing it should be able to do, the phone is perfect!..."
That's like saying, "Except for the wind part, tornadoes aren't so bad..."

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How is problems with GPS not a "bug"? I mean, GPS is one of the most important thing a smart phone does.
"Except for not doing the most important thing it should be able to do, the phone is perfect!..."
That's like saying, "Except for the wind part, tornadoes aren't so bad..."
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i agree the gps does suck on the epic. but i was really try to get the point across that buggy is one thing the epic is not. as far as the 1 thing a cell phone should do. to me that one thing is take and place calls. and i do believe the epic is a great phone at doing just that. the epic has a great speaker and mic. acutaully i think the epic speaker is just a tad bit louder and clearer than the evo. but not by much.

Apparently I got 2 buggy Epics then.
I have 2 AP's in my house (one upstairs, one down), and it refuse to pass between the two, whereas all Evos in the house do it just fine. Bluetooth connectivity was random. Sometimes, it would connect, sometimes it wouldn't. Sometimes it would connect, but audio wouldn't go through. When charging, it would reach 100% and then drop to about 95 and then back and forth, and back and forth. Non-existent GPS. Evo will lock 6-8 birds IN THE BASEMENT. Epic wouldn't lock any, even outside.
I think I'll end there, as I could go on for multiple paragraphs with the bugs. And EVERY single one was existent on both phones. I got a replacement, because the one I bought on launch day was just chewing through battery. So at least I know that was a hardware problem and not necessarily consistent amongst all Epics. The phone has a ton of potential, but they really need to fix the software. TONS of little bugs keep it from being a super-phone. SAMOLED is drop dead gorgeous, but everything about the phone feels cheap.
The frustrating part is I could've been off AT&T months earlier if I'd just bought an Evo from the start rather than waiting for the POS Epic. I'm glad that some people are loving their Epics, but I just couldn't in its current form. I gave up, and couldn't be happier with my current Evo (except maybe the crappy screen).

Should i jump to the epic?

If i exchange my EVO this will be my fourth one. Dust, screen seperation, light leakage .
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you wanna know what i think.... no. just like my gfs captivate its got a lot under the hood but as far as customization goes its lame. HTC phones always seem to have more devs working on them. thats unfortunate that you have so many problems i feel like its a solid phone havent had any problems. i tell you what i got a hero in great shape no dust or anything just send me your dusty evo first

Rally187 said:
you wanna know what i think.... no. just like my gfs captivate its got a lot under the hood but as far as customization goes its lame. HTC phones always seem to have more devs working on them. thats unfortunate that you have so many problems i feel like its a solid phone havent had any problems. i tell you what i got a hero in great shape no dust or anything just send me your dusty evo first
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I'm also curious....As much as I love my Evo, I cannot get used to not having a physical keyboard. I have used the stock one, and also used fresh and Cyanogenmod. I have the HTC_IME special keyboard and just can't get used to it. I have noticed that the gingerbread one seems to be a lot easier to type on....I just can't seem to find on how to download it along with installing it. But people who have the Samsung Epic 4G I'm curious what everyone thinks about it.

my girlfriend also has an epic its nothing special with the dev work going on there. If you get an epic expect to have a very stock experience and the gps is rather finkey on that phone

Please do!!!!!

I came frome an epic.
Shotty build quality
Gps rarely worked right
Has the physical keyboard but would miss letters all the time.(button was hit but it wouldn't register.
Screen is nice but not big enough for me.
Always alot of wobble from the screen and the keyboard.
I kept mine for 4 months. I loved the screen but the issues it had and a lack dev support compared to the evo made me switch.
Love the evo, im used to the onscreen keyboard and I like it alot better.
Choice is yours.
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Marlowr05 said:
I'm also curious....As much as I love my Evo, I cannot get used to not having a physical keyboard. I have used the stock one, and also used fresh and Cyanogenmod. I have the HTC_IME special keyboard and just can't get used to it. I have noticed that the gingerbread one seems to be a lot easier to type on....I just can't seem to find on how to download it along with installing it. But people who have the Samsung Epic 4G I'm curious what everyone thinks about it.
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i assume you're rooted so flash this from recovery like you would a rom. clear cache and dalvik first

BrianDigital said:
my girlfriend also has an epic its nothing special with the dev work going on there. If you get an epic expect to have a very stock experience and the gps is rather finkey on that phone
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Yea wut he^ said. I got my mom an epic, its a good device an to be honest if I wasn't into custom roms an such, I probably would have it but the Evo support is endless I..I can't leave I frickin need this
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Ya im probably gonna stick with the evo. It just hrinds my gears bout the dust.
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ROFLMAO! I read Sultan.of.swing's response, and I was like "damn, I don't remember responding in this thread". Then I realized it wasn't me. I was in exactly the same boat. Just traded my Epic for an Evo, and couldn't be happier. GPS never worked. Keyboard just felt janky, and made the phone feel so unstable and wobbly. I LOVED the screen on the Epic, but that was about it. Every time I hit the power key, it felt like it was gonna slip out of my hand or fall apart or something. And the fact that it STILL doesn't have official Froyo is just sad. I highly doubt I'll ever buy another Samsung phone. I've had so few problems with my two HTC phones (Nexus One and Evo), that they really made the Epic feel like a toy. That's the best description I can give of the Epic. Yeah, it may have better specs overall, but it seriously feels like a damn toy.

[Q] Coming from the G2 need opinions

Well hello everyone, iv been on the forums for a while, not posting much but reading alot! iv used the great vault of information here to root my G2 and have loved it ever since...but along came the SGS2
Now I really want this phone as iv had mine for while, my biggest and I mean HUGE problem is no physical keyboard. as a texting maniac I push 10k a month or more, so much I can type without looking at my keyboard.
Everything about the SGS2 is an upgrade from my phone except the keyboard.
Will the 4.52inch screen help me with the on screen or should I wait for a dual core with qwerty?
I also program and develop custom kernels, and other misc things,
thanks to luckyduck I have the dump file from the SGS2, but no phone for testing or finding exploits
biggest question, losing my keyboard is the SGS2 worth it?? thanks guys

I wait for a dual core with qwerty
theres already a MT4G slide

Dom18 said:
Well hello everyone, iv been on the forums for a while, not posting much but reading alot! iv used the great vault of information here to root my G2 and have loved it ever since...but along came the SGS2
Now I really want this phone as iv had mine for while, my biggest and I mean HUGE problem is no physical keyboard. as a texting maniac I push 10k a month or more, so much I can type without looking at my keyboard.
Everything about the SGS2 is an upgrade from my phone except the keyboard.
Will the 4.52inch screen help me with the on screen or should I wait for a dual core with qwerty?
I also program and develop custom kernels, and other misc things,
thanks to luckyduck I have the dump file from the SGS2, but no phone for testing or finding exploits
biggest question, losing my keyboard is the SGS2 worth it?? thanks guys
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Yes i had a Mytouch 3g slide, G2, Mytouch 4g and I can save the bigger the phone the easier it is to type. I personally find the virtual keyboard better now. The best keyboard of choice would be swiftkey X my favorite. I pretty much only press space and type whole conversations with people.

tigerz0202 said:
I wait for a dual core with qwerty
theres already a MT4G slide
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Such is true, but I dont like the MyTouch lineup never have
Thanks though

Killbynature said:
Yes i had a Mytouch 3g slide, G2, Mytouch 4g and I can save the bigger the phone the easier it is to type. I personally find the virtual keyboard better now. The best keyboard of choice would be swiftkey X my favorite. I pretty much only press space and type whole conversations with people.
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Thanks for the help, I did see swiftkey X but havnt used it before, is it really that easy?
I also beta test the latest Swype all the time on my G2 and I love it when I have to use the on screen. im slowly on my way to buying this

I also faced this dilemma back when I switched from an E71 to touch phones. Swype is awesome once you get the hang of it, very fast. I find myself using the Swype keyboard meanwhile switching to the Samsung one every now and then.

The newest swype update is better and its only getting better, u dont even have to press space anymore when typing its so nice..

Dom18 said:
Thanks for the help, I did see swiftkey X but havnt used it before, is it really that easy?
I also beta test the latest Swype all the time on my G2 and I love it when I have to use the on screen. im slowly on my way to buying this
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SwiftKey x keyboard reads your facebook, sms, rss, twitter, and gmail account google chats included. It learns the way you type. I like it there are other keyboards out there which are more customizable then swift key. I had a g2 and first thing I noticed I hardly ever used the hardware keyboard. It took some time to get use to only virtual keyboard but eventually you will be used to it. I advise you to try out different keyboards one will be to your liking. I was a hardware keyboard only guy. You can always return it if you don't like it. In the end. It's all personal preferences.

Well I have always been a physical keyboard person so it will be a big adjustment for me, trying the on screen on my 3.7inch G2 didnt work so well, but I really think that the 4.52 on the SGS2 will really help and of course ill have swype and maybe try the swiftkey X aswell.
I really hope if I go down and buy it, I dont get plagued by the Vertical Line issue thats come up now.
Thanks for the input guys i'm really leaning towards the SGS2 now, if CM is confirmed for development on this, I know a few on the team then im totally Sold and will start my programming up to make it the best!

g2 is the best phone i ever had!! I moved to gs2 and I Love it!

[Q] Note II, To buy? or Not to Buy?

Hey everybody, I am currently a Sprint Customer Who has had the evo 3D since launch. I am in the market for an upgrade, and I am looking at the Note II.
I really like the fact that it is a super powerful phone, and the S-Pen functionality would be of great use to me. Some of the things that I am not sure of have to do with the software...
I noticed with my evo 3D, support was not super quick, and most roms that removed the sense kernel ended up losing 4G and 3D capability, and sometimes even GPS.
I know the GSIII has gained a lot of traction in custom roms, etc, but I don't know if that will be the same for the Note II.
I guess the bottom line here is that I like the Note II, but I don't want TouchWiz, but I still want full functionality especially the 4G and S-Pen. So with that in mind, Do you think this is a good buy?

The difference between this 2 devices is from the earth to the SKY, I been a HTC loyal costumer for over 6 years... this ended when the NOTE 2 came out and so far I LOVE this phone. im pretty sure you will love it too, get a launcher over touchwiz and you will be set.
At first its kind of wow this is too big but now (a week after) its like man look at all those tiny small phones ...
We already have root and some ROMS, so its only a matter of time before we get a big crowd of developers working with us...
go do that swap NOW!!!!
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I just picked up my note 2 from evo3d last night. Once I got home I felt a HUGE disappoint from leaving my 3d woth cm10 coming to touchwiz and how BIG everything is. Day two, im a little more at ease after some sleep.
My biggest issue is just how huge everything is. I know once I root it and change dpi down it may look more normal for me. Im used to using a small font with and small font settings.
However my biggest hurdle is how unstable this thing feels in one hand. I constsntly feel like I may drop it because the only way to truley be able to use one hand and access everything is to rest the phone on your four fingers while using your thumb to navigate. Versus having end of your other fingers having a sturdy hold on left side of phone like normal.
Using the one-handed option does help for typing and such, but its mainly not being able to reach notification bar while having the firm grip versus resting on four fingers.
Having a inner struggle weather I want to keep this or go exchange for the gs3 later today or tomorrow. I use my phone with one hand a lot so thats a huge issue for me.
Has anyone else gone thru this while switching too the note2? If so how long does it take for that too go away.
Also im curious as to what kind of stylus support aosp roms will have. I know it will work for touching the screen but I mean as far as default samsung note apps and such? I know I will be going back to cm10 on this or the gs3. But if we will lose a lot of stylus support then I dont reslly see a need for the note over the gs3 with only .7 inches of extra screen real estate.
Any input would be great! Thanks
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chucktownscitch said:
My biggest issue is just how huge everything is. I know once I root it and change dpi down it may look more normal for me. Im used to using a small font with and small font settings.
Any input would be great! Thanks
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Not sure if you knew, you can make the font smaller. You can go to Settings >> Display >> Font Size. You can select tiny but it won't be as small as the font in 3d. but still it makes the font look better.
I used to own the e3d as well but for me, i'm really glad i went with note 2.

I've had every Evo and happy with going to the Note 2 even from the Evo 4G LTE. I would rather stick Note 2 over S3. I love AMOLED screens and very happy they did the RGB setup instead of pentile and a major reason I went Note 2 over the obvious things.

How about one handing the device? Does it feel comfortable or do you feel you could drop it at any second. Mainly with having to pull noti down?
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Thanks everybody for your input on this matter. I do have a question about the AMOLED screens though. From fiddling with the phones a bit in the store(mainly the GSIII and the EVO4) I have noticed that the AMOLED is much dimmer. I knew the sprint rep wouldn't let me take them outside to see what they look like in the sunlight, but I asked him anyways, just for the reaction. Obviously, it was still a no...
How is direct sunlight use? Especially for those coming from the 3VO to the note II.

eovnu87435ds said:
Thanks everybody for your input on this matter. I do have a question about the AMOLED screens though. From fiddling with the phones a bit in the store(mainly the GSIII and the EVO4) I have noticed that the AMOLED is much dimmer. I knew the sprint rep wouldn't let me take them outside to see what they look like in the sunlight, but I asked him anyways, just for the reaction. Obviously, it was still a no...
How is direct sunlight use? Especially for those coming from the 3VO to the note II.
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Sorry bro but if the sales rep wouldn't walk you outside so you could see a real world difference then go to a different store with better cs ... my sgs3 does great in sunlight as long as you don't stand with the sun on your screen ...side note...I just switched to sgs3 from the note 1..great transition imo
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Unhived__Mind said:
Sorry bro but if the sales rep wouldn't walk you outside so you could see a real world difference then go to a different store with better cs ... my sgs3 does great in sunlight as long as you don't stand with the sun on your screen ...side note...I just switched to sgs3 from the note 1..great transition imo
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Yeah, i was in the little strip store by my work, instead of the full sized nice one that I usually go to. Good to hear about the screen, and I'm surprised anybody would be going from a sgs3 to the original note, glad it works out though!

SO im pretty sure im going to get totally flammed for saying this but here goes and I think you need to hear it.
I too upgraded from an evo 3D. I wont lie the note II is an amazing device and is very fast.
Things I like most about it
-Screen size is very impressive for video especially
-Battery life is incredible you can beat on it all day and still have juice in the evening
-Camera is pretty impressive speed very fast fastest ive ever seen on a phone.
-speaker is pretty good audio nice and loud nice if you dont have headphones with you
Unfortunately for me this is where it stops, and I will repeat these are my own opinions.
Things I do not like
-The hardware home button you have to push it in to make it go home kinda pain in the ass since the back and menu are capacitive buttons sure would be nice if they kept them all the same or even better just made it a capacitive button like most of the other manufactures do Its not an iphone I dont want an iphone...
-Screen very poor performance outside, full brightness and I am still thinking to myself this screen is hard to read out in the sun light or even in the car on a nice sunny day, I suppose if I lived in oregon or Washington state along the coast I would not care but here in sunny california its a problem. The Evo 3D is much easier to read outside in direct sunlight
- You cannot operate the camera while on a phone call. Why ? I have no idea but cant do it. Evo can no problem
- You cannot send a txt msg while on the phone either again why? no idea but my evo 3d sure can and its nice sometimes especially on speaker phone.
-I personally think sense is a pretty nice UI better than touchwiz but thats just me so im glad to be back.
-Memory mapping is a problem on this device your SD card will show up as external SD card not SD card so causes problems with a lot of programs unless you root and use directory bind. I did this seemed to work alright but more of a work around to a problem that should have been addressed at time of manufacture in my opinion.
- Stock browser and I like the stock android browsers they are pretty good but for some reason wont txt wrap when you double click to zoom in so you can read paragraphs of text so I am scrolling back and forth to read and I have the largest screen ive ever had on a phone and still find myself scrolling like crazy, hum.
- Swype does not auto space in the browser when posting things such as this very post annoying.
So those were my biggest complaints with the phone aside from this its a pretty nice device. However I did find myself wanting a lot of the features my year and half handset had. Honestly The new features the note II brought to the table for me did not outweigh the simpler things that I routinely use. So I am returning mine this evening and have already re activated my evo 3D and will sit it out till the next HTC device comes down the pipe and see what they bring out.
I will say the 3D does feel small in my hand now but its like an old pair of jeans just feels right, and usually I am very rapid to adopt the next phone I really wanted to like this phone and use it for the next year but I asked myself if I keep having questions if I should return it or not then something is wrong.
Oh a few other things that annoy me about it was the lack of multitasking which I was really looking forward to. However it cannot do that yet=lame...
Im sure much of what I complained about will be addressed through software fixs and what have you at least I like to think so. And I know you can download a bunch of apps to do some of this stuff.
So my best advice go buy one and try it out for a couple of weeks like I did. Its only 35 bucks to turn it back in and go back to your Evo 3D. I will say though the EVO 3D with a custom rom on it is not a bad device and is not really that slow. I think if you are coming from an Evo 4g the drastic difference is bigger or if you are coming from an even older device then it will be mind blowing. But from the evo 3d the Samsung is a nice phone a bit faster for sure but 300 dollars faster and worth 11 dollar a month insurance and 200 dollar deductible for me not so much.
Again not a hater I think the note II is a great device for very specific ppl and a very capable handset. But thought it would be nice to hear somebody else's view that is not all roses

leedawg said:
SO im pretty sure im going to get totally flammed for saying this but here goes and I think you need to hear it.
I too upgraded from an evo 3D. I wont lie the note II is an amazing device and is very fast.
Things I like most about it
-Screen size is very impressive for video especially
-Battery life is incredible you can beat on it all day and still have juice in the evening
-Camera is pretty impressive speed very fast fastest ive ever seen on a phone.
-speaker is pretty good audio nice and loud nice if you dont have headphones with you
Unfortunately for me this is where it stops, and I will repeat these are my own opinions.
Things I do not like
-The hardware home button you have to push it in to make it go home kinda pain in the ass since the back and menu are capacitive buttons sure would be nice if they kept them all the same or even better just made it a capacitive button like most of the other manufactures do Its not an iphone I dont want an iphone...
-Screen very poor performance outside, full brightness and I am still thinking to myself this screen is hard to read out in the sun light or even in the car on a nice sunny day, I suppose if I lived in oregon or Washington state along the coast I would not care but here in sunny california its a problem. The Evo 3D is much easier to read outside in direct sunlight
- You cannot operate the camera while on a phone call. Why ? I have no idea but cant do it. Evo can no problem
- You cannot send a txt msg while on the phone either again why? no idea but my evo 3d sure can and its nice sometimes especially on speaker phone.
-I personally think sense is a pretty nice UI better than touchwiz but thats just me so im glad to be back.
-Memory mapping is a problem on this device your SD card will show up as external SD card not SD card so causes problems with a lot of programs unless you root and use directory bind. I did this seemed to work alright but more of a work around to a problem that should have been addressed at time of manufacture in my opinion.
- Stock browser and I like the stock android browsers they are pretty good but for some reason wont txt wrap when you double click to zoom in so you can read paragraphs of text so I am scrolling back and forth to read and I have the largest screen ive ever had on a phone and still find myself scrolling like crazy, hum.
- Swype does not auto space in the browser when posting things such as this very post annoying.
So those were my biggest complaints with the phone aside from this its a pretty nice device. However I did find myself wanting a lot of the features my year and half handset had. Honestly The new features the note II brought to the table for me did not outweigh the simpler things that I routinely use. So I am returning mine this evening and have already re activated my evo 3D and will sit it out till the next HTC device comes down the pipe and see what they bring out.
I will say the 3D does feel small in my hand now but its like an old pair of jeans just feels right, and usually I am very rapid to adopt the next phone I really wanted to like this phone and use it for the next year but I asked myself if I keep having questions if I should return it or not then something is wrong.
Oh a few other things that annoy me about it was the lack of multitasking which I was really looking forward to. However it cannot do that yet=lame...
Im sure much of what I complained about will be addressed through software fixs and what have you at least I like to think so. And I know you can download a bunch of apps to do some of this stuff.
So my best advice go buy one and try it out for a couple of weeks like I did. Its only 35 bucks to turn it back in and go back to your Evo 3D. I will say though the EVO 3D with a custom rom on it is not a bad device and is not really that slow. I think if you are coming from an Evo 4g the drastic difference is bigger or if you are coming from an even older device then it will be mind blowing. But from the evo 3d the Samsung is a nice phone a bit faster for sure but 300 dollars faster and worth 11 dollar a month insurance and 200 dollar deductible for me not so much.
Again not a hater I think the note II is a great device for very specific ppl and a very capable handset. But thought it would be nice to hear somebody else's view that is not all roses
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All of that you listed has been addressed before you even got the phone and was tested/working a few days after the phone came out...

eovnu87435ds said:
Yeah, i was in the little strip store by my work, instead of the full sized nice one that I usually go to. Good to hear about the screen, and I'm surprised anybody would be going from a sgs3 to the original note, glad it works out though!
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No...I had the note and sold it, and bought an S3...hardware wise there just isn't any comparison... and I can run serenity rom which turns my phone in a note 2!
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Anyone who says the screen isnt brighter has been smoking too much hash. I could hardly see either of my evo's on a sunny day, this thing is leaps and bounds brighter and clearer outside then an evo. I dont even have to take off my polarized Ray Bans to see the screen. I have perfect vision so it may be different for contact or eyeglass wearer.
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Unhived__Mind said:
No...I had the note and sold it, and bought an S3...hardware wise there just isn't any comparison... and I can ...serenity rom which turns my phone in a note 2!
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I have to get that rom that makes my phone bigger and gives it double the cores. DL link please.

Getting Anxious
I am currently rocking the EVO 4G and I lovied this phone when I got it but started to notice that it seemed like the last great phone that HTC made. I dont get my upgrade until Dec. 1st and I cant wait unitl I can finally get rid of this thing I call a smart phone and get a truely amazing device that is the Note II. I was a little upset when the original Note was on AT&T only but now that the successor is out for Sprint, I am as giddy as a school girl. Reading most of these comments makes me that much more anxious to get my hands on one so that I can finally see the awesomeness and true power of Samsung. Thanks for all the great input from all of your posts.

I'd make your decision based on your preferred screen size. There are a lot of great devices out at the moment.
I can recommend this device if you like the size.

chucktownscitch said:
I just picked up my note 2 from evo3d last night. Once I got home I felt a HUGE disappoint from leaving my 3d woth cm10 coming to touchwiz and how BIG everything is. Day two, im a little more at ease after some sleep.
My biggest issue is just how huge everything is. I know once I root it and change dpi down it may look more normal for me. Im used to using a small font with and small font settings.
However my biggest hurdle is how unstable this thing feels in one hand. I constsntly feel like I may drop it because the only way to truley be able to use one hand and access everything is to rest the phone on your four fingers while using your thumb to navigate. Versus having end of your other fingers having a sturdy hold on left side of phone like normal.
Using the one-handed option does help for typing and such, but its mainly not being able to reach notification bar while having the firm grip versus resting on four fingers.
Having a inner struggle weather I want to keep this or go exchange for the gs3 later today or tomorrow. I use my phone with one hand a lot so thats a huge issue for me.
Has anyone else gone thru this while switching too the note2? If so how long does it take for that too go away.
Also im curious as to what kind of stylus support aosp roms will have. I know it will work for touching the screen but I mean as far as default samsung note apps and such? I know I will be going back to cm10 on this or the gs3. But if we will lose a lot of stylus support then I dont reslly see a need for the note over the gs3 with only .7 inches of extra screen real estate.
Any input would be great! Thanks
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Since you use it one handed a lot, you should look into a flygrip. There is a video review on YouTube.

Hey, I would just like to thank everybody who has given their input in my thread here. I'd like to inform everybody that I am now a proud owner of a titanium Sprint Note II!. The capability of the phone impresses me, and my only fault is that it is taking me a bit of time to find the best way to hold it.
Thanks everybody!