Hi,
Being in Australia the Captivate Glide is not available locally so ordered it online via a parallel importer.
I was supposed to receive the AT&T version but due to no stock I received the Rogers i927R version.
I cannot root the device as my work place prevents it since I need to use it for work related messaging.
1. Is there a list of differences between the AT&T and Rogers ROM's ?
2. I'm on Optus which uses 900/2100MHz, so the phone will connect on 2100.
Using an App called Network Signal Info I can see data connection switching when I'm moving around as normal, but the data symbol in the notification bar doesn't match when on 3G as follows:
NetInfo | Speed | Notif-Bar-Symbol
GPRS | 55kbit | G
UMTS (3G) | 384kbit | 4G <-- doesnt say 3G
HSDPA | 7.2Mbit | 4G
This a bug or ROM incompatibility ?
Thanks.
The only differences I know of is that the Rogers ROM is carrier-iq free and the tethering option is unlocked.
In my AT&T version, I can't find any way to manually toggle between 2G and 3G networks. However the network info apps/widget show it's automatically switching between EDGE, HSDPA and HSPA.
incidentflux said:
In my AT&T version, I can't find any way to manually toggle between 2G and 3G networks. However the network info apps/widget show it's automatically switching between EDGE, HSDPA and HSPA.
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It would be handy to sometimes by able to force 2G to save battery.
Anyway, can the Rogers ROM be flashed onto the AT&T Glide and still work ?
vil33 said:
The only differences I know of is that the Rogers ROM is carrier-iq free and the tethering option is unlocked.
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Good point.
Sounds like I should stick with the Rogers one they sent me rather than swap it for an AT&T version since the Rogers one will be most compatible without having to 'root'.
Carriers in Australia seem to allow tethering by default as long as you have a working App for it.
Thanks.
Which parallel importer did you use, do they have an online storefront?
Hope the Rogers version pricing comes down as fast the AT&T one. That's I went for At&T, down the line I'll end up flashing it with an open ROM. Mostly because of OpenVPN support.
Maruzko said:
It would be handy to sometimes by able to force 2G to save battery.
Anyway, can the Rogers ROM be flashed onto the AT&T Glide and still work ?
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Indeed that's why I asked, since I don't use any data packages.
I checked my mom's S II, appears to be an AT&T carrier limitation. It won't even scan for other networks. I set her S II to 2G.
Earlier I wasn't concerned with the AT&T ROM, but this one is annoying, I could save some serious battery time by switching to 2G.
incidentflux said:
Which parallel importer did you use, do they have an online storefront?
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mobicity.com.au
They've been very helpful and responsive, trying to get stock as quickly as possible.
When they couldnt get the AT&T Captivate Glide they sent me the Rogers Galaxy S Glide.
Seems that was the better way to go.
AT&T locks down their network and band select while Rogers does not. AT&T uses an "H+" on the HSDPA network to show status while Rogers uses a "4G".
Learned by flashing Rogers ROM onto an ATT cglide. Changed the model to 927R as well. Went back to ATT when I noticed the loss of the ATT wifi options.
Tynar said:
AT&T locks down their network and band select while Rogers does not. AT&T uses an "H+" on the HSDPA network to show status while Rogers uses a "4G".
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So even after rooting the phone, there's no way to manually change bands while on the AT&T ROM?
Tynar said:
Learned by flashing Rogers ROM onto an ATT cglide. Changed the model to 927R as well. Went back to ATT when I noticed the loss of the ATT wifi options.
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Which WiFi options? Is the Rogers ROM disabling some WiFi options?
incidentflux said:
So even after rooting the phone, there's no way to manually change bands while on the AT&T ROM?
Which WiFi options? Is the Rogers ROM disabling some WiFi options?
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I'm using the Rogers version in Australia.
I have all the normal WiFi options and have used it at home and on public ones with no issues.
I think, just guessing, that Tynar is talking about the customized WiFi options on the AT&T ROM I have read about which gives you access to their own WiFi network.
Tynar said:
AT&T locks down their network and band select while Rogers does not. AT&T uses an "H+" on the HSDPA network to show status while Rogers uses a "4G".
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Yep, I since had a look at the User Guides, of which there is a different one for each version Rogers and AT&T. The ROM's have been customized to show different symbols for mobile connectivity.
incidentflux said:
Indeed that's why I asked, since I don't use any data packages.
I checked my mom's S II, appears to be an AT&T carrier limitation. It won't even scan for other networks. I set her S II to 2G.
Earlier I wasn't concerned with the AT&T ROM, but this one is annoying, I could save some serious battery time by switching to 2G.
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Ya... Thats at&t limitation, I guess... But atleast in my sister's AT&T Thrill phone (running Froyo + rooted with SuperOneClick) the "NETWORK" app (LINK) from AM/PlayStore works and helps in selecting 2G only or 3G only whenever needed...
But even that app is NOT working on my rooted CapGlide... May be because this phone has only rooted-ROM and not rooted-Kernal (as told by rooting guide in cap.glide development section)... Experienced members please help... I badly need 2G only for battery backup and 3G only for good speed as 3G coverage in my place is not great...
Thanks...
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But even that app is NOT working on my rooted CapGlide... May be because this phone has only rooted-ROM and not rooted-Kernal (as told by rooting guide in cap.glide development section)... Experienced members please help... I badly need 2G only for battery backup and 3G only for good speed as 3G coverage in my place is not great...
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With AT&T Rom, you don't have that option.
You can flash Rogers Room (Untouched or Custom Rom) where you have the option of manually choosing network and choosing 2G/3G
Switching to 2G would really save on battery life.
So the notable differences are...
1. The AT&T ROM doesn't allow band switching or manual carrier search and selection. While the Rogers ROM does not have this restriction?
2. AT&T allows WiFi tethering, while Rogers doesn't?
3. Both versions come with Mail for Exchange apps?
4. Skype, G+ Hangouts, Google Talk, Voice and video works on both?
Please add/correct any other big differences. I'll make a table and put it up on Wikipedia once we have the notable differences, that could cause issues with international use.
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So the notable differences are...
1. The AT&T ROM doesn't allow band switching or manual carrier search and selection. While the Rogers ROM does not have this restriction?
2. AT&T allows WiFi tethering, while Rogers doesn't?
3. Both versions come with Mail for Exchange apps?
4. Skype, G+ Hangouts, Google Talk, Voice and video works on both?
Please add/correct any other big differences. I'll make a table and put it up on Wikipedia once we have the notable differences, that could cause issues with international use.
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2. Rogers allows WiFi tethering, while AT&T doesn't?
Just that.
santimaster2000 said:
2. Rogers allows WiFi tethering, while AT&T doesn't?
Just that.
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So both carriers allow WiFi tethering? I haven't personally tested either so I can't be sure.
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So both carriers allow WiFi tethering? I haven't personally tested either so I can't be sure.
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You are blind or something ?
2. Rogers allows WiFi tethering, while AT&T doesn't
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2. Rogers allows WiFi tethering, while AT&T doesn't?
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Guess you don't know that leaving a question mark on your reply might confuse people in to thinking you weren't sure?!
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You are blind or something ?
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No need to be rude!
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I've been searching both the T-Mobile and AT&T S III forums but haven't found my specific question.
I have an unlocked AT&T S III that I'd like to move over to T-Mobile. While I was in their store today I was told that I couldn't access their new LTE network in my area until Samsung sent out an OTA update. I know all LTE networks aren't created equally but I'm accessing AT&T's just fine, averaging about 32Mbps down and 10Mbps up.
I can't find any information about a Samsung update that would let me access T-Mobile's LTE network. I did a few speed tests with their SIM card in the store and the best result was 3Mbps down and 1Mbps up.
Any thoughts on this supposed OTA update or what I'd need to do to access their LTE using my unlocked AT&T S III?
For what it's worth, I'm currently running CM 10.1 M2.
Well according to this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_LTE_networks
Both At&t and Tmobile use 1700/2100 AWS. So once Tmobile releases the new Galaxy S3 someone can extract the radio from it's firmware. You could then flash the radio on your device. Alternatively you could simply enter the APN settings from Tmobile's Galaxy Note II which already (due to recent firmware update) supports Tmobile's lte network.
You can use this site to check on the progress of Tmobile's lte deployment.http://sensorly.com/map/4G/US/USA/T-Mobile/lte_310260
speedy1979 said:
Alternatively you could simply enter the APN settings from Tmobile's Galaxy Note II which already (due to recent firmware update) supports Tmobile's lte network.
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The APN change is a solution I haven't heard about. I'll probably head back to the store tomorrow to test this theory. I'll give feedback regardless of how it goes.
Please do I had the exact same question and I would appreciate it. Thank you.
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Please do I had the exact same question and I would appreciate it. Thank you.
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I wasn't able to test this theory today because I couldn't find reliable T-Mobile LTE settings. I also read that changing or adding new APN settings can have adverse effects like Google Now not working. This makes me a little hesitant to try it even if I can find the right config.
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I wasn't able to test this theory today because I couldn't find reliable T-Mobile LTE settings. I also read that changing or adding new APN settings can have adverse effects like Google Now not working. This makes me a little hesitant to try it even if I can find the right config.
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Ah ok, you should be able to delete apn settings you add after testing. I don't have the phone in my possession or else I would test it myself. The settings I believe are changing the apn to fast.t-mobile.com while keeping everything else the same.
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I currently have ATT service with my S3. I'm running the Intergalactic 3.0 at the moment and I absolutely love it. However - I just switched to T-Mobile. I want to keep my current phone and sell the free S3 they gave me so I don't have to deal with losing any information or anything like that. Can I get away with this on the ATT based ROM? IIRC T-Mobile and ATT run on very similar networks/frequencies. Any advice would be helpful here. If worst comes to worst and I have to use the T-Mobile provided phone, can I flash Intergalactic on it as well or do I have to choose from the T-Mobile ROMs on this site?
Thanks to everyone in advance.
You should be able to add the proper apn for t mobile. You also may want to flash one of the t mobile radios.
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I just switched from ATT to T-Mobile. I have an ATT SGS3 running Task's AOKP. APNs filled themselves in when I put the T-Mobile SIM in and everything works flawlessly.
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I just switched from ATT to T-Mobile. I have an ATT SGS3 running Task's AOKP. APNs filled themselves in when I put the T-Mobile SIM in and everything works flawlessly.
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Strange. I unlocked the phone, I was able to put in the SIM card and the APNs filled themselves. I was able to make calls and texts but unable to use internet. Any idea here? Using Intergalactic 3.0
To clarify - no internet at all. No Edge, GSM, or LTE
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Strange. I unlocked the phone, I was able to put in the SIM card and the APNs filled themselves. I was able to make calls and texts but unable to use internet. Any idea here? Using Intergalactic 3.0
To clarify - no internet at all. No Edge, GSM, or LTE
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No idea. I'm not getting LTE, but I do get H+ and haven't looked into it yet. Maybe it's the ROM? I'm on Task's newest release.
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No idea. I'm not getting LTE, but I do get H+ and haven't looked into it yet. Maybe it's the ROM? I'm on Task's newest release.
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Strange. I went back and re-registered on the network through the settings and now it's getting 4g, just no LTE. At least it's working though!
Edit: Kinda. It worked for a minute then I locked/unlocked the phone and it didn't want to work any more.
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Strange. I went back and re-registered on the network through the settings and now it's getting 4g, just no LTE. At least it's working though!
Edit: Kinda. It worked for a minute then I locked/unlocked the phone and it didn't want to work any more.
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I just changed the setting under settings-> network mode to "GSM/WCDMA/LTE" and now I do get LTE
I have an unlocked stock rooted AT&T i747 running 4.1.2. I want to use it on the Bell network. When I put in a Bell sim, it shows it has service, and the pda.bell.ca APN shows up, but it can't find the Bell network, only Rogers. Just wondering if anyone else has tried the same thing and had success or no? As it is I cannot call, text, or browse... Please let me know if there is anything I can do.
Is there an option in the network settings to select lte or wcdma?
Did you check to make sure the phone isn't listed as being blacklisted?
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Is there an option in the network settings to select lte or wcdma?
Did you check to make sure the phone isn't listed as being blacklisted?
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I haven't located any settings about WCDMA or LTE. On my i747m I'm used to being able to toggle between 2G/3G/4G. Nothing like that here. Bell's IMEI check approved it, and it's not on the national blacklist.
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I haven't located any settings about WCDMA or LTE. On my i747m I'm used to being able to toggle between 2G/3G/4G. Nothing like that here. Bell's IMEI check approved it, and it's not on the national blacklist.
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You say the Bell APN shows up but are you using it?
Trying to... However I'm still not getting any data service.
quaxer said:
Trying to... However I'm still not getting any data service.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1434995 has the APN, I assume you already looked it up but can be useful.
Getting service but no data is usually just not having data turned on.. So obvious question: Do you have it turned on in your settings/pulldown menu?
If your APN checks and data is turned on, you might have to give Bell a call (don't have to tell them you have a US variant).
Thanks for your input. Data is definitely turned on. However, please remember that it's not only data that isn't working. I am also unable to call and text.
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Thanks for your input. Data is definitely turned on. However, please remember that it's not only data that isn't working. I am also unable to call and text.
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Can you check to make sure your baseband matches your bootloaders? If it does, I'm out of options for now. Bell (or someone else) can probably help you further.
Sorry for not being overly knowledgeable...
How can I tell what bootloader I'm running?
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Ok. I found how tell what bootloader I'm running. The baseband and bootloader do match.
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So... This phone has sat around for a few months, and now I want to sell it to a friend of mine on Telus. Anyone know what we need to do to make it work???
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So... This phone has sat around for a few months, and now I want to sell it to a friend of mine on Telus. Anyone know what we need to do to make it work???
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Once the phone has been unlocked, it will work on all carriers except Wind and Mobilicity.
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Once the phone has been unlocked, it will work on all carriers except Wind and Mobilicity.
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It seems it should be that way... the phone is unlocked, but when I put a Bell sim in it it says emergency calls only. The only network that comes up to set as default is Rogers. Can you advise me as to how to make 100% sure the phone is unlocked?
Are you running a custom ROM? Can you change the network settings to wcdma only?
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Are you running a custom ROM? Can you change the network settings to wcdma only?
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I rooted it with Chainfire's Odin Autoroot, but everything else is stock... I can't find a way to change the network settings to wcdma only... I'm trying to use it on a GSM network, anyway. Or am I not understanding?
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I rooted it with Chainfire's Odin Autoroot, but everything else is stock... I can't find a way to change the network settings to wcdma only... I'm trying to use it on a GSM network, anyway. Or am I not understanding?
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Which carrier are you trying to use the phone with? If it is Telus/Bell/Koodo/Virgin, it should work without changing anything.
The only networks that support GSM are Fido and Rogers.
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Which carrier are you trying to use the phone with? If it is Telus/Bell/Koodo/Virgin, it should work without changing anything.
The only networks that support GSM are Fido and Rogers.
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Ok sorry, I think I got confused about the wireless technology. I'm trying to use it on Bell or Telus, but no luck. I guess I should try an AT&T sim in it and see if the phone works at all...
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Ok sorry, I think I got confused about the wireless technology. I'm trying to use it on Bell or Telus, but no luck. I guess I should try an AT&T sim in it and see if the phone works at all...
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What stock ROM is on the phone? I had an i747m that was locked to Bell. I used the free method to unlock it, updated to 4.4.2, and it works perfectly on Rogers and Koodo.
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What stock ROM is on the phone? I had an i747m that was locked to Bell. I used the free method to unlock it, updated to 4.4.2, and it works perfectly on Rogers and Koodo.
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Yeah, makes me think that maybe this is faulty hardware or AT&T somehow hamstrung this thing...
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Yeah, makes me think that maybe this is faulty hardware or AT&T somehow hamstrung this thing...
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The ATT should work on Bell and Telus. My Bell i747m could roam on ATT when I travelled to the USA.
Just to confirm: you can connect to the Rogers network but not Bell or Telus?
I've seen several discussions about this but didn't seem to find a working solution. I'm currently using GNF1 V3 NB4, I tried using the apn settings for at&t and also called them to make sure they have the correct imei number. Also, for some reason under the "Network mode" I don't have an LTE option, I only have WCDMA/GSM, GSM ONLY AND WCDMA ONLY. I am able to get 4G but no LTE. Is there any solution or any other way to solve this problem?
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I've seen several discussions about this but didn't seem to find a working solution. I'm currently using GNF1 V3 NB4, I tried using the apn settings for at&t and also called them to make sure they have the correct imei number. Also, for some reason under the "Network mode" I don't have an LTE option, I only have WCDMA/GSM, GSM ONLY AND WCDMA ONLY. I am able to get 4G but no LTE. Is there any solution or any other way to solve this problem?
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Change ro.product.name= in the build.prop to say jfltetmo
will it also change the speed or just add an "LTE" symbol?
Give you the LTE option in network modes and change the icon. Speeds? Probably since youll have LTE back
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Give you the LTE option in network modes and change the icon. Speeds? Probably since youll have LTE back
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ok, i have the LTE option in "network modes" now, however the speed is more or less the same and I don't have LTE bar, not sure whether it's because of my current location or what.. is there anything else I could edit to try to make it work?
If I change the ro.product.model , name and device to at&t values would I get the LTE speeds just like an at&t s4?
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ok, i have the LTE option in "network modes" now, however the speed is more or less the same and I don't have LTE bar, not sure whether it's because of my current location or what.. is there anything else I could edit to try to make it work?
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When I bought this phone from T-Mobile I was still on an AT&T plan. Before I jumped ship over to Net10 Wireless I used AT&T's LTE all over Pensacola. That was on a sim-unlocked, unrooted, otherwise 100% stock M919. Did you double-check your APN's? Perhaps you're just not in an area where you can pick up LTE?
Yes I use the correct apns the ones that at&t gave me, but im gonna try to go back to stock then change the apns to at&t and maybe that will work.. but even if it will, I don't know if I could keep using GNF1 or would I have to use a different rom, anybody else have or had issues with getting LTE on at&t while using custom roms and knows roms that work? (Preferably tw)
See your network type in settings > about phone > status. Try to get LTE with your AT&T SIM on another phone then install it back to your M919.
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Hi,
I have an unlocked version of Fire Phone and have flashed the almost latest version of the Cyanogenmod ROM. I am using at&t wireless service but it seems that I just cannot use LTE. Based on other information I think the phone supports all the bands at&t is using. The network the phone is using is HSPA. I tried changing settings in the phone but it did not help. I searched carefully using related keywords but have not found anybody talking about this, and I wonder whether this is something too simple to ask or nobody else has ever encountered this problem. I want to know if there is something I can do to use LTE.
Thanks.
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Hi,
I have an unlocked version of Fire Phone and have flashed the almost latest version of the Cyanogenmod ROM. I am using at&t wireless service but it seems that I just cannot use LTE. Based on other information I think the phone supports all the bands at&t is using. The network the phone is using is HSPA. I tried changing settings in the phone but it did not help. I searched carefully using related keywords but have not found anybody talking about this, and I wonder whether this is something too simple to ask or nobody else has ever encountered this problem. I want to know if there is something I can do to use LTE.
Thanks.
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I have seen some issues about CM based ROM's and ATT LTE. Did you have a full LTE signal and good data speeds on the stock ROM before you flashed the CyanogenMod ROM?
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I have seen some issues about CM based ROM's and ATT LTE. Did you have a full LTE signal and good data speeds on the stock ROM before you flashed the CyanogenMod ROM?
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Thank you for your reply. Unfortunately, I had already flashed CM before I switched to att so I do not have information about that. And currently I am not quite willing to flash the phone back to the native fireOS just for this because HSPA still gives good data speed...
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Thank you for your reply. Unfortunately, I had already flashed CM before I switched to att so I do not have information about that. And currently I am not quite willing to flash the phone back to the native fireOS just for this because HSPA still gives good data speed...
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Have you checked your APN settings and verified that it is setup correctly to use ATT LTE? Also, was this phone ever used on ATT before with the sim card you put in it? If not, then what will have to happen is this, I think: I found this excerpt which I believe is what will have to happen.
You WILL NOT get AT&T LTE on you phone unless your account is first provisioned with an AT&T LTE Phone. There is NO WAY around this. You must buy/borrow an AT&T phone that has LTE capability, put your SIM in that phone, and let the system provision your account for LTE automatically. This is NOT something that customer service, or a store clerk, can do for you. Once your account is provisioned for LTE (you will know because the LTE indicator will show up on the phone), you can then put the SIM card into your Fire Phone. At that point, the device will automatically select the "phone" APN, and you will get LTE (identified by the "4G" indicator).
Hope this helps
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