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[Q] Any luck with torrent apps?

Was hoping to find something like Torrent Fu.
Anyway I installed uView utorrent and FSSI Torrent 7 on a free trial. Couldn't get either to work. Then looked at uController but it needs some .net 4 program on my PC to work.
What the hell is going on. I'm not cheap. I will pay £1.99 for a torrent app that works with isohunt.com. Please help.
What about Torrent Remote and Torrential.
Maybe it's my fault.
In uView settings - Your Torrent host I entered my IP address.

Sorry everyone. Its midnight here in London.
I was running utorrent 2.0.4. Normally it updates itself on startup. But this time it didn't update to 2.2. Got 2.2 now. Everything fine.
BTW what torrent app do you like?

Ogner said:
Sorry everyone. Its midnight here in London.
I was running utorrent 2.0.4. Normally it updates itself on startup. But this time it didn't update to 2.2. Got 2.2 now. Everything fine.
BTW what torrent app do you like?
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Definitely uController. The service running on your PC makes it stand out above the others.

The service for uController is there to provide additional information above and beyond what you'd normally get with the uTorrent webUI.
Namely 'live' tile updates that show how many torrents are currently downloading (in the current build); and
A toast notification whenever a new torrent is added. You can restrict this this so it doesn't ding between certain hours (in the development build).
Admittedly being the developer of uController, I'm biased, but I think those two things make installing a small service on your PC an acceptable proposition.
uController doesn't allow the addition of torrents right now, but it's already implemented in development (via RSS feeds).

dgaust said:
The service for uController is there to provide additional information above and beyond what you'd normally get with the uTorrent webUI.
Namely 'live' tile updates that show how many torrents are currently downloading (in the current build); and
A toast notification whenever a new torrent is added. You can restrict this this so it doesn't ding between certain hours (in the development build).
Admittedly being the developer of uController, I'm biased, but I think those two things make installing a small service on your PC an acceptable proposition.
uController doesn't allow the addition of torrents right now, but it's already implemented in development (via RSS feeds).
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Can you just make a Fu Torrent clone? No PC software to install. Stop, remove, and pause of torrents. Search torrents available from Isohunt and TPB within the app. And of course add torrents.
This is all I'm asking for. But I'm willing to pay good money to someone who can deliver.

Ogner said:
Can you just make a Fu Torrent clone? No PC software to install. Stop, remove, and pause of torrents. Search torrents available from Isohunt and TPB within the app. And of course add torrents.
This is all I'm asking for. But I'm willing to pay good money to someone who can deliver.
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Sorry, i won't be doing it. I built this for my own uses, so I build it to suit my needs.
There are 3 other apps that might suit your needs.

I thought they said the microsoft was going to allow torrent apps in wp7. Only apps allowed would be allowed to view your torrents, but not add new ones.

+1 for uController, the live tile works well and the service running on your main torrent pc isn't a big deal.
Looking forward to the update that will allow the adding of torrents from rss feeds. A question for the developer: does this mean you can view the rss feed and select the torrents you want? Is it the service app or the device app downloading the torrent?
Oh yeah, and two small cosmetic things; when you run the app the "connecting to xxx.xxx" message at the top is overlapping the uController title (it looks a little untidy), and the app doesn't remember which group of torrents you were looking at last time you ran the app (ie downloading, or seeding, or what have you), it always reverts to All Torrents (which is a bit slow when you have a lot of torrents).
Great so far though, you wouldn't know how often the other torrent apps are going to get updated but this one is on version 1.2 already.

wheresmybeaver said:
+1 for uController, the live tile works well and the service running on your main torrent pc isn't a big deal.
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Thanks for the comment
wheresmybeaver said:
Looking forward to the update that will allow the adding of torrents from rss feeds. A question for the developer: does this mean you can view the rss feed and select the torrents you want? Is it the service app or the device app downloading the torrent?
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You view the RSS feed on the device, but the downloading is done on your PC. Nothing is downloaded on the device (given how small the storage is on some of them, and no background apps, it would be virtaully impossible anyway).
wheresmybeaver said:
Oh yeah, and two small cosmetic things; when you run the app the "connecting to xxx.xxx" message at the top is overlapping the uController title (it looks a little untidy),
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Yeah, I know. It is designed to mirror other apps that have the loading information across the top of the page, even if it overlaps with other information. Using the light theme it works better as it has a background tint... I might move it centrally like I have done with the RSS feed progress bars.
wheresmybeaver said:
and the app doesn't remember which group of torrents you were looking at last time you ran the app (ie downloading, or seeding, or what have you), it always reverts to All Torrents (which is a bit slow when you have a lot of torrents).
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I haven't really thought about doing that, but I can add it as an option.
Great so far though, you wouldn't know how often the other torrent apps are going to get updated but this one is on version 1.2 already.[/QUOTE]
Thanks.

v1.3 has hit the market place, you should see the update available soon. The major additions are the ability to add torrents and push notifications when a new torrent is added.
I relation to your enhancements.
wheresmybeaver said:
Oh yeah, and two small cosmetic things; when you run the app the "connecting to xxx.xxx" message at the top is overlapping the uController title (it looks a little untidy),
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I've tidied this up a bit by adding some chrome background to the text. I tried it in the middle of the page, but it looked worse. The chrome helps the untidiness I think.
wheresmybeaver said:
and the app doesn't remember which group of torrents you were looking at last time you ran the app (ie downloading, or seeding, or what have you), it always reverts to All Torrents (which is a bit slow when you have a lot of torrents).
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I added this in, however there was some weird behaviour happening. It would work well on the All, Downloading and Paused pivots but would crash out with the stopped and seeding pivots. There is no obvious reason for it, so I had to take it out to do the release.
I'll try to nut it out.
wheresmybeaver said:
Great so far though, you wouldn't know how often the other torrent apps are going to get updated but this one is on version 1.2 already.
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1.4 was submitted this morning, but it's only a minor release that improves tombstoning support.

dgaust said:
v1.3 has hit the market place, you should see the update available soon. The major additions are the ability to add torrents and push notifications when a new torrent is added.
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Grabbed the 1.3 update this morning and have been trying it out over lunch. I added some TV Show RSS feeds to the service app this morning before heading out, and I am happy to report that I can see these RSS feeds on my handset and add the torrents that I want from the feed. Works perfectly. I have also been able to set an upload limit for my torrents, great! If I can add one tiny suggestion, that each torrent in the RSS feed might also show the date it was added to the feed? Just in case I end up downloading an episode from a previous week if there was no new episode this week... or would it even be possible to have a * or some other indicator beside a feed that has a new torrent available? thanks
dgaust said:
I relation to your enhancements.
I've tidied this up a bit by adding some chrome background to the text. I tried it in the middle of the page, but it looked worse. The chrome helps the untidiness I think.
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That looks much tidier indeed thanks! and the "loading torrents" dialogue is a great addition (it was tricky in previous releases to know if the app was busy or not)
dgaust said:
I added this in, however there was some weird behaviour happening. It would work well on the All, Downloading and Paused pivots but would crash out with the stopped and seeding pivots. There is no obvious reason for it, so I had to take it out to do the release.
I'll try to nut it out.
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Cheers for giving it a go, but actually this update makes torrents appear much faster at launch, so remembering the previous pivot isn't as much of a big deal IMO?
dgaust said:
1.4 was submitted this morning, but it's only a minor release that improves tombstoning support.
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1.3 was a fantastic update thanks! But the toast notification for new torrents being added: how does this work? Does the RSS feature automatically add new torrents from the RSS feeds you've used previously and then send a notification?
By the way, I've rated the app on the marketplace but it looks like the marketplace reviews are segmented between regions. I'm in Ireland so there are only about a dozen ratings across the entire Marketplace! Bit of a bummer really since it's not possible to see rating and reviews from other regions.

wheresmybeaver said:
If I can add one tiny suggestion, that each torrent in the RSS feed might also show the date it was added to the feed?
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Shouldn't be a problem to add the date. The feed should contain that information already, it's just a matter of putting it into the UI.
edit: Done.
wheresmybeaver said:
1.3 was a fantastic update thanks! But the toast notification for new torrents being added: how does this work? Does the RSS feature automatically add new torrents from the RSS feeds you've used previously and then send a notification?
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Nice to hear. Basically it just works for any torrent added during the time period. It's mainly designed to capture torrents automatically added via the RSS function built into uTorrent. It doesn't use the feeds you've added into the client.
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By the way, I've rated the app on the marketplace but it looks like the marketplace reviews are segmented between regions. I'm in Ireland so there are only about a dozen ratings across the entire Marketplace! Bit of a bummer really since it's not possible to see rating and reviews from other regions.
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Thanks for the rating... there's only been two so far, so if you are lijuen it's shown up,

dgaust said:
Sorry, i won't be doing it. I built this for my own uses, so I build it to suit my needs.
There are 3 other apps that might suit your needs.
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Then can you provide clear instructions on how to use it as I can't get it to connect.
Do I configure my WebGUI in utorrent as well or what?

lekki said:
Then can you provide clear instructions on how to use it as I can't get it to connect.
Do I configure my WebGUI in utorrent as well or what?
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To get started, you really need to know how webUI in uTorrent works.
In essence, if you can get uTorrent and WebUI set up to the extent that you are able to:
(a) Access WebUI from any other computer on your home network
(b) Access WebUI from a computer outside your network via an external IP address. ie from your mobile phone, or a computer at work
...then you will have no trouble setting up uController. Bear in mind that all the uTorrent remote access apps on the marketplace will require that you can configure and setup WebUI. See this for instructions on getting set up.
Once that's done, and you can definitely connect to webUI, follow the instructions pdf for uController here and you'll be grand.

lekki said:
Then can you provide clear instructions on how to use it as I can't get it to connect.
Do I configure my WebGUI in utorrent as well or what?
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Yes, the service connects to the WebUI so it needs to be set up. Instructions are available and linked in the post above.
The pdf needs to be updated to take into account the features added since release, but the setup should be adequately explained. If you're having any specific problems, let me know.

So we have some torrent apps... that says something about Marketplace approval and copywright issues. So where are the emulators?

AppFinder on Windows Phone 7

Check out my free app in the Marketplace: AppFinder
AppFinder is the fastest way to find apps by name bar none.
Start typing the name of an app or publisher, and the search results are shown instantly.
tap one of the results to go to the marketplace page for the app.
Check it out and let me know what you think

Been using it last couple days, its a big help! Thanks!!!

I'll check it out thanks!

Thank you - it's very fast like the marketplace search should be. Good for quick looking apps if you know the name.
Are there any improvements coming? Like the Top Downloads or anything else?

appfinder feedback
thanks for the feedback - I'm on it

Great app, thanks!
BTW I can't find HTC Hub...

I think you need an HTC device for that sorry buddy

zukа said:
I think you need an HTC device for that sorry buddy
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Yeah but some guys were able to find it...

AppFinder
Ok, v1.1 has been submitted to the app marketplace and is ready for testing - should show up in the marketplace as an update within a few days

ebadger said:
Ok, v1.1 has been submitted to the app marketplace and is ready for testing - should show up in the marketplace as an update within a few days
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does this fix the crash where it closed and wouldn't reopen for me (even after soft reset)?
I had to uninstall, reinstall to get it working again.

I don't think so.
Although I think I know the cause. I will have to roll the fix into another update.
I think there is a small window where the downloaded data file can be corrupted if the writing to flash is interrupted. It will be simple to fix. For now, if you hit it, uninstall reinstall is the only option.

nice find. but did you know while in maketplace you can use the search button to find apps as well?

jimecm said:
nice find. but did you know while in maketplace you can use the search button to find apps as well?
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Of course I do
AppFinder is all about making apps discoverable in the fastest way possible.
I think if you're not in the top 20 apps in the marketplace under any one of the categories, then as a developer you're invisible. AppFinder seeks to make it easier to find apps via search, and with the update, via browsing as well.
Update is in the hopper, still waiting for testing to complete...

jimecm said:
nice find. but did you know while in maketplace you can use the search button to find apps as well?
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the annoying thing is that it searches music and video as well. i can't just search for apps alone

locales
Ok, so I just figured out I've only been indexing the en-US locale
I've updated the data to include
{ "en-US", "en-GB", "en-IE", "en-CA", "en-IN", "en-AU", "en-HK", "en-SG", "de-DE", "fr-FR", "fr-BE", "de-AT", "de-CH", "it-IT", "en-NZ", "es-ES", "es-MX" };
this change is effective immediately as it is a data update. Still waiting for the update to make it through the approval process. It seems that the holiday has slowed things down a bit

The update finally arrived
Nice new features and still very fast. But unfortunately, in my case, it wont load after the second app start (even at first start if I switch the section). I always have to deinstall/reinstall again once the app was started.
Maybe you can take a look? Feels like a caching problem or something like that. I'm using a Samsung Omnia 7 in germany - if that helps
Feature wishlist:
1. add a settings screen to edit:
a.) the number of list entries on one page (10, 20, 50) to keep the app fast enough
b.) the section on loading (and maybe you also can set this to no section just for fast look-up app search - I used the app for this before the update)
2. Maybe you can use the OS-typical "left-to-right-scrolling-loading-dots" instead of the big ones?
3. New logo if there is enough time

PrivateJoker said:
The update finally arrived
Nice new features and still very fast. But unfortunately, in my case, it wont load after the second app start (even at first start if I switch the section). I always have to deinstall/reinstall again once the app was started.
Maybe you can take a look? Feels like a caching problem or something like that. I'm using a Samsung Omnia 7 in germany - if that helps
Feature wishlist:
1. add a settings screen to edit:
a.) the number of list entries on one page (10, 20, 50) to keep the app fast enough
b.) the section on loading (and maybe you also can set this to no section just for fast look-up app search - I used the app for this before the update)
2. Maybe you can use the OS-typical "left-to-right-scrolling-loading-dots" instead of the big ones?
3. New logo if there is enough time
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Private Joker,
Thanks for the feedback.
First - there was a bug that only impacted the German locale! I was trying to save bandwidth by truncating unnecessary leading zeros in the price and this caused an exception when the locale was set to German. I've updated the data to include the leading zeros and this fixes the problem for Germans. You will have to uninstall and reinstall though to get it to work. I am very sorry for the inconvenience, and I really appreciate you taking the time to give me your feedback even though the app was not working for you at all. I hope you will try again given that the data has been fixed.
Regarding your feedback -
I think you are right on the mark for #2 and #3
I don't understand 2b.
regarding 1a.
perf should not be impacted by the number of items that are shown -
Appfinder actually transfers the marketplace data to the device and indexes it locally. I do this because the network is really, really slow. Aside from having artists and albums mixed up with apps in the marketplace search results, I also was tired of waiting for results to load. Scrolling through the apps means waiting.
The delay at the beginning is caused by reading the marketplace data from flash and indexing it in RAM. Occasionally the loading dots will appear after launching (like the first time that you use it) because AppFinder has transfered a new data file and needs to parse it again. Instead of delaying every 10 or so apps in the list, there is one delay at the beginning (which is relatively small). Right now parsing the file takes about 4 seconds.
Perf could be greatly improve if I had access to memory mapped file APIs. Further compressing the data would help as well - The really slowest part is really reading from the flash. I can improve perf when a network update occurs by reading from the flash in the background before blocking - this would drop the update delay from ~4 seconds to ~1 second.
I could also not query as you're typing -- Waiting until the enter button has been pressed would reduce CPU load and any chunkiness - pressing search would just render the apps instantly.
Anyway, really appreciate your positive attitude and willingness to give feedback in light of what must be a frustrating experience. Please give it another try.
Thanks,
Eric

25,000+ apps? I'm just not seeing it.

I've had my WP7 device for a couple of weeks now. I really gotta know, where are these 25,000 apps that are supposed to be in the marketplace? I've been through most of the categories through the Zune SW and, while there might be a couple of thousand apps, I really just don't see any way it could be even close to 25,000 apps.
Am I looking in the wrong place? Are a bunch of them hidden away waiting for Mango before they show up?

Me neither... I think its a lie... In some categories I scroll down as much as I can and get to the very end of it.. Like in business category .. And stil the most I think it would be was 500 under that to be highly optimistic and a generous margin of error in counting... Considering their is no more than like 12 categories I don't know from where they have this 25ooo figure... Even if w include all the spam apps like books ...
On side note, i Hate how MP has died for last two months. Even the 'featured' and recommended apps are absolutely ****. Just downpaded this app 'vivino' last night because it ws 'Featured and it gave a sticky icon on my program list linking me to vivino website.. They call this app..?
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Of course you're only seeing Worldwide and US released apps. There are others which won't have been released to the US.
Though I wouldn't have thought those specific apps would have made a huge contribution to the total apps.
EDIT... I couldn't find stats for regional releases but I did find that 24% of apps in the Marketplace are not in the English language...
http://www.windowsphoneapplist.com/stats/
Of course they may still have been released Worldwide or in the US, but I imagine a fair few of those won't have been.

http://wp7applist.com/stats/

I think this is one of the flaws in the Zune desktop software. It doesn't appear to show everything when you use the category lists. It ends up only showing the "most popular" or "most recent". For everything else you end up having to search for things by name or keyword. But if you don't already [/b] know[/b] the name or the developer didn't provide a decent keyword list, you may never find it.
I've found that several of the online app list sites are much better, and you can use their Zune links to purchase/install the apps you want, once you do find them.

RoboDad said:
I think this is one of the flaws in the Zune desktop software. It doesn't appear to show everything when you use the category lists. It ends up only showing the "most popular" or "most recent". For everything else you end up having to search for things by name or keyword. But if you don't already [/b] know[/b] the name or the developer didn't provide a decent keyword list, you may never find it.
I've found that several of the online app list sites are much better, and you can use their Zune links to purchase/install the apps you want, once you do find them.
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Do you have links to any of them? I like to be able to browse because sometimes (often) I will find an app I didn't even know I needed. I think MS was taking their cue from Apple on this matter too. It's incredibly hard to find anything but the most recent or most popular apps in the iTunes App Store.

The two sites I use most often are http://wp7applist.com/ and http://www.windowsphoneapplist.com/.
Both are very good, although the web server at wp7applist tends to be very slow sometimes. But they do have a killer app available (there's a link to it on the site) that makes most of the site's features available directly on your phone. It is an awesome app, but unfortunately suffers from the same occasional speed issue as their site, since it pulls app data from the same server.

Purple11 said:
Me neither... I think its a lie...
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Not even a remote chance it's a lie. Do you know how screwed MS would be if they did that? Anyways people posted links that will help you find apps. I admit Marketplace needs a little help in making apps easier to find. Even when I know the name of something I am not always presented with it when doing a search.

apps really aren't a big deal as alot of things can be done without having to launch an app, and as such I don't really have that many apps on my phone I have enough to trigger the jumplist but that's pretty much it.

Avatar28 said:
I've had my WP7 device for a couple of weeks now. I really gotta know, where are these 25,000 apps that are supposed to be in the marketplace? I've been through most of the categories through the Zune SW and, while there might be a couple of thousand apps, I really just don't see any way it could be even close to 25,000 apps.
Am I looking in the wrong place? Are a bunch of them hidden away waiting for Mango before they show up?
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Me neither... I think its a lie... In some categories I scroll down as much as I can and get to the very end of it.. Like in business category .. And stil the most I think it would be was 500 under that to be highly optimistic and a generous margin of error in counting... Considering their is no more than like 12 categories I don't know from where they have this 25ooo figure... Even if w include all the spam apps like books ...
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So what ??? You are not seeing them and its a lie ??? You are the smart one that expose MS lies ???
Come'n boy...If you dont know just ask ..Dont make bold statements like this
There are more that 28.000 and if you Know how to search m8 you will find them ...
Learn fisrt how to search and then post threads with bold titles like yours...
I just get angry with ppl like you !!!!

Ignore/hide app update

I have an app (calorie counter) that keeps showing a notification there is an update. I don't want to update it because the new permissions seem intrusive (allowing hardware controls - take picture and video).
Does anyone know how I can disable getting a notification about the update?
Cheers,

Open Google play, go to settings and uncheck " notifications" option.
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That will turn off notifications for all apps though, which I'd rather not do.
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Gucci.Nexus said:
That will turn off notifications for all apps though, which I'd rather not do.
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You could use titanium backup to disassociate the app with the Google Play store. I've personally never done it myself, but I think this is the solution you're looking for
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Gucci.Nexus said:
That will turn off notifications for all apps though, which I'd rather not do.
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You can also specify it on a per app basis. Just open the app in Google play and uncheck the checkbox.
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Petrovski80 said:
You can also specify it on a per app basis. Just open the app in Google play and uncheck the checkbox.
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No, you can't
The only check box is for Automatic Updates, not update notifications.

Go to settings, apps, select the app, uncheck notifications.

Solution by using ZipSigner 2
I just came across a solution (android.stackexchange.com/a/25527)
If you've got root access and have the original apk of the version you want to keep at hand (via Titanium backup or copied out of your \data\app folder), you can use ZipSigner 2 to give that apk a different key (auto-testkey).
When you install the apk with its new key, the Play Store will not recognize the installed app and will therefore not try to search or push any updates. :good:
ZipSigner 2 is available for free in the Play Store: play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=kellinwood.zipsigner2

If you have root, you can simply use ti backup to detach an app from the market.
It was assumed op doesn't have root though.
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Petrovski80 said:
If you have root, you can simply use ti backup to detach an app from the market.
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It was my understanding that detaching an app in Titanium does not work anymore since an update from Google Play has more checks on the server side.
http://www.titaniumtrack.com/changelog/titanium-backup/4-8-4-1

Djezpur said:
I just came across a solution (android.stackexchange.com/a/25527)
If you've got root access and have the original apk of the version you want to keep at hand (via Titanium backup or copied out of your \data\app folder), you can use ZipSigner 2 to give that apk a different key (auto-testkey).
When you install the apk with its new key, the Play Store will not recognize the installed app and will therefore not try to search or push any updates. :good:
ZipSigner 2 is available for free in the Play Store: play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=kellinwood.zipsigner2
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Thanks for this. What a quick and easy solution. Now I can keep the old Foursquare without getting it automatically updated to that new version.

Please note: ZipSigner 2 does not require root!
The solution probably still works. Thanks for the hint!

Now I did test it.
1. Use App Backup and Restore to save the apk
2. Use Zipsigner to give the apk a different autokey
3. Uninstall original app
4. Install the apk modified by Zipsigner, you may need some file manager like TotalCommander for this
It is all possible without root and works well

Gucci.Nexus said:
I have an app (calorie counter) that keeps showing a notification there is an update. I don't want to update it because the new permissions seem intrusive (allowing hardware controls - take picture and video).
Does anyone know how I can disable getting a notification about the update?
Cheers,
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I know this is an old thread. And I understand that Ti Backup used to work for detaching an app from Play Store. But I also understand that this works no longer. For those who are interested, I have created an app that does a pretty good job of this. It is called Hide Updates In Play Store. There is a video showing the app at work. It does require a rooted device. Thanks

Let me summarize:
- it costs money
- it needs root
- it needs an additional app
- the solution may not persist if you uninstall the controlling app
All these disadvantages can be avoided by reading just one posting higher ...

tag68 said:
Let me summarize:
- it costs money
- it needs root
- it needs an additional app
- the solution may not persist if you uninstall the controlling app
All these disadvantages can be avoided by reading just one posting higher ...
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You are, of course, correct in the disadvantages. But the above method has its own limitations:
1) I wonder how/if it will work with system apps unless you have root. For instance, I actually wanted to get rid of updates to Google Search since later versions hose-up Utter.
2) It is something of a pain to "undo" since you will loose any settings or data (unless you are VERY CAREFUL) related to the app when you uninstall the "fake-signed" app and re-install the "real" app. Of course, this would also happen during the install of the "fake-signed" app in the first place. In some cases, this may be trivial but in others, it may not. And App Backup/Restore - which I use - fine app - only processes the .apk file.
3) It requires a minimum 2 apps be installed.
4) It isn't terribly easy to do. Developers would likely be able/willing to handle this - or even know what signing is or what to do. But how about others? The first one would be hardest for sure.
Like my solution, it also seems not likely to work with paid apps or apps having in-app purchases. I am not 100% sure, but would guess that the re-signing will mess up most Play Store license checking. Indeed, App Backup/Restore handles these differently and with far less functionality.
Still, for someone who is willing to do it and for those lacking root, the solution suggested above seems like it will work and those who are rooted can certainly save that $1 which can be used to make a one-time purchase of maybe 1/2 cup of coffee at the nearest Starbucks
Cheers!

David, if you would have mentioned the possibility of resigning in the description of your app, maybe even give the manual how to do without your app, I'd much more be willing to believe and support you.
Without that hint it has a little smell of betraying for me, not showing people who do not know better or do not have root that there are cost-free alternatives. But probably I have just to admit that you seem to be good at selling. I usually don't like people who are good at selling.

tag68 said:
David, if you would have mentioned the possibility of resigning in the description of your app, maybe even give the manual how to do without your app, I'd much more be willing to believe and support you.
Without that hint it has a little smell of betraying for me, not showing people who do not know better or do not have root that there are cost-free alternatives. But probably I have just to admit that you seem to be good at selling. I usually don't like people who are good at selling.
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First, I developed and posted my app on Play Store before I even saw this forum thread with its reference to resigning apps. So I was not aware at the time.
Second, I still have not even tried to confirm that the re-signing approach will work (although I can see that it might). I will take the word of the person who posted this technique that it does indeed work. But I now have a solution that I like and use. So I have no real need to find and test other solutions.
Third, there are often many possible solutions to a given problem. In fact, my original approach to this particular problem was done via Tasker and shell scripts. It worked but was not particularly user friendly. I tried to remedy that in my app. It seems you are saying that a person (me) choosing to implement one possible solution must also run down, verify, and advertise all other approaches. If so, I think that is a bit ridiculous and would appreciate a list of examples of app authors who are doing this who you do "believe and support." I do not think it is very common.
Fourth, I found this thread via a google search. I think it is fair to believe others will as well if they are seeking alternative approaches. So they too can learn about the resigning approach and decide for themselves how to proceed. I never claimed (here on in my app) that mine is the only approach. I never say it is the "best" approach. I do not denigrate proponents of other approaches. I only implemented one approach that seemed reasonable to me. I posted here so others who suffer from this weakness in Play Store can, if they wish, can check it out for themselves. Play Store gives buyers 2 hours or so to test the solution and decide if it works for them. If not, they are free to return the app and cancel the sale and charge.
Fifth, if you check my list of apps on Play Store, you will see that they are all very small apps and all are either free or very low cost. All of these apps were the result of my trying to resolve situations that I found personally irritating. I then thought that maybe others would find them useful as well. If you look at the number of installs for all of my apps combined, I think you will find that I am NOT at all good at "selling". Indeed, if the net proceeds from all of my paid apps combined exceeded much more than $300 total it would be a miracle. With programming, testing, and support time this likely works out to be maybe $0.10 per hour. I figure the market for this app will be no larger than my previous apps and at $1 per sale, it will be a while before I can use the proceeds to buy even a six pack of beer (especially after Google takes their cut). So I can hardly be considered a successful salesman. If only that were true! I do sell some of my apps. But truth be told I really do this, not for the money, but so I can show some revenue to the tax authorities so they permit me to write off some computer-related expenses.
I am sorry you feel "betrayed" by me somehow. And I am sorry that you have somehow decided that you don't like me for the rather limited reasons you have managed to list here. I really do not think I have given you or anyone else cause to reach such conclusions. It really makes me kind of sad. But you are entitled to your opinions and I will leave it at that as I walk away in wonder.

You admit that you googled where you could post ads for your app, did not even have a look what was last written in the thread and then sent your ad? In my opinion that IS Spam, nothing else ...
So thank you for the offer, and for staying away from this thread in future. For everyone who needs a good working solution free of cost and less use of resources but with a bit more manual handling of apk-files, have a look at posting #13 of this thread.

Djezpur said:
I just came across a solution (android.stackexchange.com/a/25527)
If you've got root access and have the original apk of the version you want to keep at hand (via Titanium backup or copied out of your \data\app folder), you can use ZipSigner 2 to give that apk a different key (auto-testkey).
When you install the apk with its new key, the Play Store will not recognize the installed app and will therefore not try to search or push any updates. :good:
ZipSigner 2 is available for free in the Play Store: play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=kellinwood.zipsigner2
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Thank-you! That worked like charm!!

Google play 4.3.10.apk with nice features

The new version of the Play Store doesn’t bring a complete overhaul to the interface but makes some changes to improve usability. The biggest of these is the Recently updated section on the Installed apps list, which lets you review which apps were updated instead of having to comb through the alphabetical list of all installed apps.
Another usability tweak is that notifications are all lumped into one entry. Now you won’t be seeing one entry for each and every updated app. You can still view which ones were updated using the Recently updated section mentioned earlier. There are other changes as well, but they’re quite minor compared to these two and may not even be available in some markets.
Link http://mirrorfy.com/group/all-about-android-iphone/forum/topics/download-latest-google-play-4-3-10

Nice share . Thanx

Nepdroid said:
Nice share . Thanx
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Thank u

Thanks bro