Wanna go back from ICS - Samsung Epic 4G Touch

Can I just flash a restore or GB rom using my current rogue recovery or do I actually HAVE to ODIN back to el29 stock??
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roqstarmatt said:
Can I just flash a restore or GB rom using my current rogue recovery or do I actually HAVE to ODIN back to el29 stock??
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Safest to Odin back to el29 first
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I think you can just Nandroid back (I haven't had trouble doing that before) but it might cause some problems. If you want the safest route, Odin back.

O ok... How bout mobile odin??
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Here's what I did
Odin full restore back to stock, use sfhub's auto root, then add recovery, reboot to recovery, nandroid back to your GB ROM. Also you don't have the annoying yellow triangle.

Is mobile odin the same as odin??
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roqstarmatt said:
O ok... How bout mobile odin??
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Mobile Odin works. I just flashed a GB recovery/kernel combo and wiped from there. The bricks are coming from the use of using CWM bundled with an ICS kernel. If you do any flashing with a GB kernel/recovery, you'll be good to go.
Note: You wont be able to boot on ICS with a GB kernel, so just boot into recovery if you choose that route.

roqstarmatt said:
O ok... How bout mobile odin??
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I wouldn't trust mobile Odin for a procedure like this.

phatmanxxl said:
I wouldn't trust mobile Odin for a procedure like this.
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Why have u bricked using mobile Odin I haven't and have used it several times to Odin back to stock try it it works great
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I've restored a nandroid 3 times so far going back from ICS to GB, and I've had no problems.

SuperSwagSauce said:
I've restored a nandroid 3 times so far going back from ICS to GB, and I've had no problems.
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Same except i've probably done it 10 times . I just reboot to recovery from rom manager and restore. No problems at all
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Nebbeh said:
Same except i've probably done it 10 times . I just reboot to recovery from rom manager and restore. No problems at all
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Your playing with fire.....look at all the people bricking no one has bricked doing a Odin and then restoring from GB but several have doing nandroids back
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Epix4G said:
Your playing with fire.....look at all the people bricking no one has bricked doing a Odin and then restoring from GB but several have doing nandroids back
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Only bricks I've seen are from using Rom Manager and the temp CWM Touch. Kernel Repacks are fine for going back and forth between GB and ICS.

phatmanxxl said:
Here's what I did
Odin full restore back to stock, use sfhub's auto root, then add recovery, reboot to recovery, nandroid back to your GB ROM. Also you don't have the annoying yellow triangle.
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Can't you give me a link?
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Epix4G said:
Your playing with fire.....look at all the people bricking no one has bricked doing a Odin and then restoring from GB but several have doing nandroids back
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Seriously, you guys are taking risks. Hey, asking as you are aware of those risks then great but I still say Odin to a stock Gingerbread ROM, Odin flash a kernel w/ recovery and restore nandroid myself but to each his own...
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To get GPS to work on ICS you have to get a lock on a EL29 Rom...I use the Blend...Ive gone from ICS to Recovery to Restore, to GB, get the Lock back to Recovery Restore ICS done deal...Have done it plenty of times...Never a problem...So you're tellin me I'm gonna Brick sooner or later...By usin this method but it never happened before...I'm using Rogue Recovery but not the Touch Recovery....:
I also never use Rom Manager...Never tried Mobile Odin...But I don't need it...

xCovErtWolFx757 said:
Can't you give me a link?
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I go all of the way back to EG30 myself..here's the one click thread for that. My next post will have the EL29 return to stock...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1383678
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Andfor those who want to go straight back to EL29....
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1433101
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JohnCorleone said:
Seriously, you guys are taking risks. Hey, asking as you are aware of those risks then great but I still say Odin to a stock Gingerbread ROM, Odin flash a kernel w/ recovery and restore nandroid myself but to each his own...
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HOW are we taking risks? It's been clearly stated in several threads that the problem lies with RomManager and temp recoveries.. not with repacks.

ronny71 said:
To get GPS to work on ICS you have to get a lock on a EL29 Rom...I use the Blend...Ive gone from ICS to Recovery to Restore, to GB, get the Lock back to Recovery Restore ICS done deal...Have done it plenty of times...Never a problem...So you're tellin me I'm gonna Brick sooner or later...By usin this method but it never happened before...I'm using Rogue Recovery but not the Touch Recovery....:
I also never use Rom Manager...Never tried Mobile Odin...But I don't need it...
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People just flashing stuff with a cwm ics kernel have bricked and people doing nandroids back to GB using ics kernel have bricked read the brick threads and u will see .... 3 of the devs have bricked so go ahead if you think its safe .... But don't cry when you brick
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Is there a way to flash between ICS roms faster?

I usually one click back to el29, install CWM, and then flash another ICS rom but it's very time consuming. Is there a faster and safe way?
What I did was nandroid my gingerbread system. Then I can flash whatever I want and restore gingerbread whenever I want to go back.
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crawrj said:
What I did was nandroid my gingerbread system. Then I can flash whatever I want and restore gingerbread whenever I want to go back.
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Restoring a GB nandroid on an ICS ROM won't cause the phone to brick?
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It can. I'd suggest just keeping chris41gs ICS aosp/tw kernels in SD card. That way you can just Odin his kernel (if you're not already using it) and flash whatever from there
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fredrick1213 said:
Restoring a GB nandroid on an ICS ROM won't cause the phone to brick?
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I have done it dozens of times using Chris41g and agat's ics kernels.
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crawrj said:
I have done it dozens of times using Chris41g and agat's ics kernels.
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so i got a question that ties into that statement. i am about to use the auto root tool to get cwm. i am currently on stock ics rooted. would i be able to flash whatever rom i choose without having to one click back to a GB Build?
(this used to be way easier on my OG Evo, lol)
Mastergrimm28 said:
so i got a question that ties into that statement. i am about to use the auto root tool to get cwm. i am currently on stock ics rooted. would i be able to flash whatever rom i choose without having to one click back to a GB Build?
(this used to be way easier on my OG Evo, lol)
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Yes you would. Just install FF18-CWM-agat-src kernel. Of course make a backup first just in case you get into trouble but I have been doing it over and over with no issues... So far :laugh:
Awesome thats just what i Wanted to hear
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Mastergrimm28 said:
so i got a question that ties into that statement. i am about to use the auto root tool to get cwm. i am currently on stock ics rooted. would i be able to flash whatever rom i choose without having to one click back to a GB Build?
(this used to be way easier on my OG Evo, lol)
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If you do decide to try please update us.
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I will update when i try.
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Restoring back to nandroid.

I'm on cyanogenmod 10 beta 3 and wanted to go back to AOKP Milestone 6 but I'm having problems with superuser (and therefore cant use mobile odin) so I was wondering if I could just restore my nandroid back to EL26 via the JB recovery mode and then flash the aokp ROM through that recovery like normal? Or would that not work/brick my phone?
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Bump, really need some input on this. Any help is appreciated. thanks.
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Safe bet as I had the same issue: use sfhub one click to go back to el29 w root, then one click root to el26 cwm access and then you're good to go. Just make sure whatever road u take it leads you to el26 cwm by chris41g.
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dante32278 said:
Safe bet as I had the same issue: use sfhub one click to go back to el29 w root, then one click root to el26 cwm access and then you're good to go. Just make sure whatever road u take it leads you to el26 cwm by chris41g.
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I don't really have a PC at my disposal at the moment though is my biggest problem :/ which is why I was asking if restoring back to my nandroid back up via JB recovery would be safe?
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dante32278 said:
Safe bet as I had the same issue: use sfhub one click to go back to el29 w root, then one click root to el26 cwm access and then you're good to go. Just make sure whatever road u take it leads you to el26 cwm by chris41g.
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Hey, quick question.I'm just trying to do some reading about safety and such, and came across your post. Wouldn't it be safe to JUST Odin EL26 CWM alone? Without going back to EL29 first? Is that necessary? Again, not being a smartass and trying to call you out, I'm just really trying to get a hold on what is safe, or not, and procedures.
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Hey, quick question.I'm just trying to do some reading about safety and such, and came across your post. Wouldn't it be safe to JUST Odin EL26 CWM alone? Without going back to EL29 first? Is that necessary? Again, not being a smartass and trying to call you out, I'm just really trying to get a hold on what is safe, or not, and procedures.
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That's exactly what you should do.
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Well the main issue is it seems he lost root access....just saying its safest to start fresh. Only takes 10 extra minutes. If he had root he would've been able to just mobile Odin el26 like he stated, but its not an option.
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dante32278 said:
Well the main issue is it seems he lost root access....just saying its safest to start fresh. Only takes 10 extra minutes. If he had root he would've been able to just mobile Odin el26 like he stated, but its not an option.
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Exactly. That's the problem I'm having, which is why I'm asking if (since i dont have a pc to use) It would be smart and safe to just restore my nandroid (which is el26 with root and cwm) from the JB recovery (cwm6) and then just flash my original ROM through el26 cwm.
Anyone think this is safe?
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organizedConfoosion said:
Exactly. That's the problem I'm having, which is why I'm asking if (since i dont have a pc to use) It would be smart and safe to just restore my nandroid (which is el26 with root and cwm) from the JB recovery (cwm6) and then just flash my original ROM through el26 cwm.
Anyone think this is safe?
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It sounds safe, both are quoted as being safe recoveries. I even restored a nand from a broken phone onto my replacement one yesterday so I'm sure what you're doing is far less risky. Its the wiping in non-safe recoveries that caused bricks, you should be OK as long as you don't do something stupid like pull the battery during the restore.
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dante32278 said:
It sounds safe, both are quoted as being safe recoveries. I even restored a nand from a broken phone onto my replacement one yesterday so I'm sure what you're doing is far less risky. Its the wiping in non-safe recoveries that caused bricks, you should be OK as long as you don't do something stupid like pull the battery during the restore.
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Someone else told me that even while restoring a nandroid backup, it still wipes data, so if you're on an unsafe kernel, it still can brick. Just so everyone knows, I was on a safe kernel when I bricked mine. Apparently there was a mis-merge that happened that caused the safe kernel to be unsafe for a few days. I was very unlucky, but its one of the risks we all take when doing this. I'm planning on odin-ing el26 kernel whenever I need recovery from here on out!
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It sounds safe, both are quoted as being safe recoveries. I even restored a nand from a broken phone onto my replacement one yesterday so I'm sure what you're doing is far less risky. Its the wiping in non-safe recoveries that caused bricks, you should be OK as long as you don't do something stupid like pull the battery during the restore.
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vinscuzzy said:
Someone else told me that even while restoring a nandroid backup, it still wipes data, so if you're on an unsafe kernel, it still can brick. Just so everyone knows, I was on a safe kernel when I bricked mine. Apparently there was a mis-merge that happened that caused the safe kernel to be unsafe for a few days. I was very unlucky, but its one of the risks we all take when doing this. I'm planning on odin-ing el26 kernel whenever I need recovery from here on out!
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Thank you both for the replies. I guess I'll go ahead and try the nandroid restore.
Wish me luck haha. Hopefully this recovery is as stable as people have been saying lately.
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organizedConfoosion said:
Thank you both for the replies. I guess I'll go ahead and try the nandroid restore.
Wish me luck haha. Hopefully this recovery is as stable as people have been saying lately.
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Just thought of something: if you lost root, how do you still have a custom recovery? You may want to wait til ur near a PC to do el26 flash!
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No idea but I can boot into CWM just fine, its just superuser won't give me root access. I even tried to do the su binary update and nothing.
I'm not flashing El26, I'm just restoring to my nandroid backup which is el26.
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organizedConfoosion said:
No idea but I can boot into CWM just fine, its just superuser won't give me root access. I even tried to do the su binary update and nothing.
I'm not flashing El26, I'm just restoring to my nandroid backup which is el26.
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OK well good luck and let us know how it goes! Fingers crossed....
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I ended up not restoring, and found a way to fix my root access. Thanks all for the input though everyone!
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Bml/mtd?

Excuse my stupidity, but I'm just curious.
I'm about to get an et4g and id like to know if it has the filesystem type Change like on the original epic; where the official Odin Rom is bml and cm9/aokp is mtd, and how once you're on mtd you can't go back to bmp without Odin
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Datguy_n_Disguy said:
Excuse my stupidity, but I'm just curious.
I'm about to get an et4g and id like to know if it has the filesystem type Change like on the original epic; where the official Odin Rom is bml and cm9/aokp is mtd, and how once you're on mtd you can't go back to bmp without Odin
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Yeah I use to have the OG Epic 4G. No there is no different file partion like the Epic 4g. hope this helps.
g_ding84 said:
Yeah I use to have the OG Epic 4G. No there is no different file partion like the Epic 4g. hope this helps.
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It does help, a lot infact.
So this means I can back up my stock rom, flash cm9, then go back and restore the stock rom, it'll boot?
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Datguy_n_Disguy said:
It does help, a lot infact.
So this means I can back up my stock rom, flash cm9, then go back and restore the stock rom, it'll boot?
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No because the kernels are different. AOSP kernel and TW kernel.
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No because the kernels are different. AOSP kernel and TW kernel.
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No, I'm talking about nandroid backup
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No, I'm talking about nandroid backup
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For that I would read how to not brick your phone here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1525495
and make sure that your in a safe recovery. Agats recovery is safe for ICS restore and flashing. so to restore a back up flash the kernel in odin/mobile odin boot into Recovery then restore back up.
Our phone uses ext4 file system. Don't have to worry about bml vs mtd like the og epic. No worries though I was wondering the same thing when I made the switch a few months back
Just make sure you read up on the emmc bug before you flash any roms as that can cause hard bricks.
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For that I would read how to not brick your phone here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1525495
and make sure that your in a safe recovery. Agats recovery is safe for ICS restore and flashing. so to restore a back up flash the kernel in odin/mobile odin boot into Recovery then restore back up.
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So...if I'm coming from stock GB I'm okay?
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Datguy_n_Disguy said:
So...if I'm coming from stock GB I'm okay?
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If you are on Stock GB then your fine its a safe recovery. Flash GB to GB or GB to ICS. ICS to ICS or ICS to GB is another matter Agat's kernel(TW) and Chris41g kernel(AOSP) are safe for ICS. ICS to GB i'd use EL26 Direct boot kernel to GB recovery and restore or flash GB rom's from. Odin or Mobile odin work.

Going from ics to gb

So basically I was having issues with my phone and ended up getting a warranty replacement. So b4 I sent my old one back I needed to revert it back to stock. I found a flashable zip from zedomax that returned the stock kernel, recovery, and ROM. Only thing it was 2.3.5 gingerbread. I was running infamous 3.1 and did darkside super wipe and cache., well after flashing the zip I got the stock recovery, and part of stock boot animation, well after the stock boot animation then came the infamous animation then nothing. It wouldn't boot up past that.,I ended up using Odin and fixing it and converted stock that way. My question is... Is there a special method going from ics to gb?
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If you want stock then you just odin
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bobby3306 said:
So basically I was having issues with my phone and ended up getting a warranty replacement. So b4 I sent my old one back I needed to revert it back to stock. I found a flashable zip from zedomax that returned the stock kernel, recovery, and ROM. Only thing it was 2.3.5 gingerbread. I was running infamous 3.1 and did darkside super wipe and cache., well after flashing the zip I got the stock recovery, and part of stock boot animation, well after the stock boot animation then came the infamous animation then nothing. It wouldn't boot up past that.,I ended up using Odin and fixing it and converted stock that way. My question is... Is there a special method going from ics to gb?
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Yeah just use odin or a flashable zip to return to stock no big deal
I know how to Odin and get stock...I'm asking if there's anything special to go from an ics ROM to a GB ROM? BC when I did it I soft bricked, using all the darkside
Wipes.
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And btw I know the zip wasn't corrupt BC I had used it b4 when I did an exchange when I was running GB already.
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There is a sticky post having all the links
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bobby3306 said:
I know how to Odin and get stock...I'm asking if there's anything special to go from an ics ROM to a GB ROM? BC when I did it I soft bricked, using all the darkside
Wipes.
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I have flashed from GB to ICS back and forth a few times never really had an issue like that the only real issue I have ever had was a few apps force closing but a quick wipe of the cache took care of that issue
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There is a sticky post having all the links
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Omg read the entire post moron, I wasn't asking for a guide for any damn links. Was a question, read
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don't use the CWM flashable zips. if you do you should flash the rom and kernel too? you probably did but sometimes it doesn't work correctly. I would suggest flashing via odin to get to stock then wipe data/factory reset through stock recovery. that is the cleanest method to get to stock. the CWM flashing to zip sometimes leave stuff behind from earlier flashes.

Recovery in nandroid?

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Odin back to the recovery you made the nandroid in. If it was el26 and you are now on a agat odin back to el26 boot imto revovery. And restore backup or whatever recovery it was created in
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Your. tells a lot.
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Your. tells a lot.
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I deleted it because it was a stupid question that I should have known the answer to. It was when you recover a nandroid does the recovery and kernel from when you made the android come with it.
My problem was I am and was on king kang and decided to flash a modem. I didn't realize the jb modems were only for tw roms so when I had no data I though I needed to update prl and profile. I flashed a stock rooted rom from repository, it was rooted but didn't mention had no recovery. Odin kept falling when trying to put a new recovery on. And after 5 hours of fail I finally succeed with a one click from repository. After flashing a modem (fi27) I think. I just wanted to make sure I want going to be stuck with no recovery again because that really sucked. I didn't mention this in the original question but all is well now and I'm back on king kang
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