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Before going to Official Froyo, think about this...

Yes, I understand the Official Froyo maybe more stable since it's more updated and complete than the leaked Froyo in custom ROM. But really is it worth the upgrade?? What I mean, when you upgrade to official froyo you will loose your root, and possibly a new updated radio that would maybe need "Paul" time to hack again. Without the root, it may not be possible to change to different ROM. I am pretty sure, once those official FROYO is out...there would be lots of different custom ROM MOD based on Official FROYO available?? Also looking at my past experience with HTC, once this official 2.2 update is available, they wont update very often anymore. It maybe better to stay with custom ROM since those cooks tend to get newer system kernel somewhere. I guess for me, even if the update is out, I will just wait out till someone make new custom ROM based on this official FROYO? cheer...that's just my opinion.

^^^what he said^^^^ +1

Most, if not all people will be waiting for a rooted version. I'll be amazed if people unroot just to get it, when it'll be modded in no time. The test release by udk is a prime example.
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kuailan said:
Yes, I understand the Official Froyo maybe more stable since it's more updated and complete than the leaked Froyo in custom ROM. But really is it worth the upgrade?? What I mean, when you upgrade to official froyo you will loose your root, and possibly a new updated radio that would maybe need "Paul" time to hack again. Without the root, it may not be possible to change to different ROM. I am pretty sure, once those official FROYO is out...there would be lots of different custom ROM MOD based on Official FROYO available?? Also looking at my past experience with HTC, once this official 2.2 update is available, they wont update very often anymore. It maybe better to stay with custom ROM since those cooks tend to get newer system kernel somewhere. I guess for me, even if the update is out, I will just wait out till someone make new custom ROM based on this official FROYO? cheer...that's just my opinion.
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Gingerbread

Agree with the original poster's sentiments. Also worth considering that this could very easily be the last major update for HTC to roll out to the Desire. There's already a newer generation of devices out and HTC have no incentive to keep us at the leading edge. I got a clear taste of this with my previous HTC Magic - dropped by Vodafone like an unwanted toy once they started selling newer devices. Thankfully it was completely unlocked and I could flash all the custom ROMs on that which I liked but since it was a 32B if I had gone official and somehow ended up there I'd have been left behind at 1.6.

I "upgraded" from Hero (which I liked pretty much) to Desire about a month ago, and it's still unrooted. I rooted and installed a custom ROM to my Hero (a couple of weeks before the official 2.1 came out) and I was far from impressed. It became slow and laggy, the available RAM was way below than on the original 1.5 etc. I assume that I should've try other ROMs as well but at a certain point I just got tired so I switched to Desire. I love the way it is. It's fast, responsive and I enjoy all the possibilities of the hardware. I can even impress my iPhone friends with a little smile on my face.
The guy I sold my Hero just updated to the official OTA 2.1 a couple of days ago. Guess what? It's flying! I wouldn't believe it if I couldn't see with my own eyes.
I love what you guys do here. I really do. I'm amazed and impressed with all the work and effort you put in these custom ROMs. I'm reading all the interesting threads, tips, tricks etc. It's good to have a place like this board. It's good to have full control over our handsets, install software others can't. But I kinda like the way HTC puts together and tests its ROMs even if it's bloated with stuff I'll never use. I'll check for updates every hour this weekend Cos I'm eager to try all the new features. Maybe later I'll switch to a custom ROM which is based on the official, but for now I'm focusing on the "Check now" button

even though it hurts to say so.. but I agree

kuailan said:
Yes, I understand the Official Froyo maybe more stable since it's more updated and complete than the leaked Froyo in custom ROM. But really is it worth the upgrade?? What I mean, when you upgrade to official froyo you will loose your root, and possibly a new updated radio that would maybe need "Paul" time to hack again. Without the root, it may not be possible to change to different ROM. I am pretty sure, once those official FROYO is out...there would be lots of different custom ROM MOD based on Official FROYO available?? Also looking at my past experience with HTC, once this official 2.2 update is available, they wont update very often anymore. It maybe better to stay with custom ROM since those cooks tend to get newer system kernel somewhere. I guess for me, even if the update is out, I will just wait out till someone make new custom ROM based on this official FROYO? cheer...that's just my opinion.
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Why would it not possible to root back after unrooting? Since rooting is now riskfree...

What I would like is a standard final realease, rooted and A2SD+'ed, thats it, no other mod`s.

as long as froyo doesn't modify the hboot to a new version, you can always rollback and unroot.

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Why would it not possible to root back after unrooting? Since rooting is now riskfree...
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Because the leaked froyo came with a new HBOOT (which was removed by devs here) which at the moment is unrootable. And may be unrootable forever!
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coercri said:
What I would like is a standard final realease, rooted and A2SD+'ed, thats it, no other mod`s.
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Me too
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coercri said:
What I would like is a standard final realease, rooted and A2SD+'ed, thats it, no other mod`s.
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Agreed, I finally took the plunge to root and A2SD, the latter of which is amazing Is it really too much to ask for, just to install apps on the SD?

I will wait for Froyo Official-based custom ROMS!

macacao said:
Me too
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That would be perfect..! And wake phone with the select button.

I was near to unroot and and go back to the normal rom. But now not anymore after what u guys said. Thx.
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So if someone buy a HTC desire after the update he may not be able to get root ever. Lucky us!
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I highly doubt no one is ever going to be able to root if they officially upgrade to 2.2. It will happen, it might just take a while that's all for Paul and co. to do it..

I think that all of you that says that the new Hboot could not be hacked, underestimate many very very skilled peoples knowledge. Just because it isn't cracked now, it not equal to *incrackable*.
I am very certain that it will be cracked or something else and then root access can be achieved again.

[Q] 2.2 or CM7 on DEFY

I am new to the Android phone, and I purchase the Defy on last sunday, I like this phone and those function, but I am thinking to upgrade the firmware to 2.2, the salesman say it can be download 2.2 OTA at April, but after a week and there is still nothing.
So now I am thinking upgrade to CM7, one question, after installed the CM7, can it downgrade to the original 2.2 OTA?
Also I am focusing to the Hotspot feature. Is it work fine?
my phone version is
2.59.0.MB525.Retail.n.CH18
firmware version
2.1 update1

Yes, i have done that tomorrow. I don't like some modifications that i was used to, in the contact list, that have changed in the CM7. I'm gonna wait to another version to see if will get better what i want.

it seems like cm7 is still in beta-mode if i was u i would wait untill a stable verison comes out

If you don't want to be flashing fixes every other day i recommend not going with CM7. It runs great for light usage but it has many issues for now.
I recommend going with a 2.2 rom like my EphuNord. It is a clean Blurless 2.2 rom with a few modifications to allow easy themeing. I also uploaded around 8 themes.
If you follow the correct procedures you can always downgrade as far as 2.1 again if you need to.

thx for information, but which is the most stable for 2.2? I saw some post that some rom are not compatible?! Any recommandation? I want 2.2 or above.
I am lost on upgrade or not.

I want to update to ephnord 2.2
But want to downgrade back to 2.1
I am 2.51 uk(the phone came with it)
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For Now 2.2 will be a better choice as the CM7 is its beta phases so let it come as a stable build...
N dude make sure while upgrading from 2.1 to 2.2 you does not lose ur downgradability and for that use the excellent work from fritolays so that u can downgade back to ur original firmware just by flashing 2.1 firmware of ur choice back...

Were can i find fritolays`s work,thanks in advance mate.
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If you're newbie (or just want to use phone, not patch it every day), then better 2.2
fritolays's work here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=977989
EphuNord is also good choise for you. They both based on latest official leaked 2.2 and very stable.

Thank u so much
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[Q] Roms query

Hi everyone, can any of you advise on the most stable Rom for the glide, I'm on gb back to black, which is a good Rom but I have issue with the camera crashing and slow GPS who doesn't lol.
I had checked ice cream sandwich ROMs and although some report them to be stable there seems to be still some issues at hand, keyboard backlight aside which is easily fixable and route, some still seem to have issues with carrier, GPS and gallery.
Ice cream sandwich still seems to have problems with lag and high-definition games slowing down.
Is there a definitive ROM out there that is stable out there with minimal issues and if so which one.
Thanks in advance for any suggested Roms that are stable enough for daily use without any hardware issues.

If you ask me stay on gingerbread until dman releases ICS aosp because ICS has so many bugs just simple things that will get on your nerves
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I find the latest osimood rom is very stable. I've tried a couple ics roms and always had an issue with this or that. the osimood rom is bloat free and there is a zip with all the stock apps if you need one or two.

also recommend the osimood rom based on 2.3.5. will wait for ICS rom based on CM9 or AOSP/AOKP with adracat kernel (wen it will be stable).
hope the development of that rom is in full swing and maybe a beta will pop out so we can test as well.

Thanks guys for the service typically I went to the thread to download but the link was down!!! posted a request for an uplink. i need the phone for business so if this ROM is stable then that's good enough for me, I'll skip ics if unstable as sat nav is not that compatible on ics according to the word.
Atb

Does the rooted ROM's lock my SIM-lock?
Hi all!
I just bought an unlocked (carrier free) Captivate Glide from eBay, and had it shipped to Sweden where I live.
I'm wondering about the prerooted roms described in the root-guide on this site... will any of them (AT&T or Rogers) lock my SIM-lock again?
The phone works fine with my Swedish SIM-card, but I need to be rooted to remap the keyboard so I can type Swedish letters on the hardware keyboard. Reson I ask is because I did not recieve an unlock code with the phone that arrived yesterday.
The phone came in an AT&T box so I guess it is a AT&T branded phone.

It is possible (and probably likely) that flashing a new rom will cause your device to re-lock. However, it's very easy to add root yourself without flashing a new rom. You just need to flash ClockworkMod Recovery, and from within CWM, flash the 3.2-RC3 superuser.zip from here.
Additionally, if you look around the forums there's a thread on how to bitflip files in your EFS folder to unlock your device that way - something you should look into if you want to flash the device up to 4.0.4 or one of the custom roms.

Thanx!
Thank you! I will look into that then. So it's possible to install CWM without having root through Odin..?

Hi certainly the osimood Rom has not re Iocked my phone none of the GB ROMs has done this to my phone. So it should new ok.
Atb

I tested many roms and none of them re-locked my phone (even official ICS from ATT). I bought unlocked glide on ebay too.

Thank you for this good piece of information.
Now I should be set to go.
Think I'll stay on stock for now and just install CWM via Odin and then Superuser via CWMR.
I'll wait for a better ICS rom with less issues i think. Shouldn't be that long i hope...
Thank you for your help!

[Q] Is it possible to flash a stock HTC Sense Rom onto tmobile G2? or best Sense ROM?

Situation:I've read through most of the HTC Sense roms on our forums and most of them show at least a few problems with missing/broken features. Currently on Virtuous Sense 2.1 which I love since the only thing that bothers me is: the "www./.com" is now a tab, one widget resets the htc sense UI(removed it though), and a small amount of lag. Currently I'm intent on having the latest HTC Sense Rom on my G2.
Question: Is it possible to just flash the stock HTC Sense roms onto the G2 and have it update on its own after I flash and unroot itself?
Question: If not, anyone have an HTC Sense rom available that is stable, full features working, little to no lag, and the procedure is forgiving(as in my G2 won't brick easily if I incorrectly executed a step)?
Notes: I used this procedure for rooting from XDA wiki: (http://forum.xda-developers.com/wik...sion#Rooting_the_Vision_.28G2.2FDZ.29_and_DHD). I really liked it because I failed a couple of times and pulled the battery and it still didn't brick however after I flashed, I wiped the sd card(kept backup files though) and replaced it with a higher capacity sd card.

For sense roms on a G2, you need to have the Desire Z hboot. Which from your description, you must already be having. You can go ahead and flash any rom of your choice.
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Then after I should unroot and let htc sense update itself?

More than likely you will be better off not going stock if you want to keep root access and leave security flags off. If you do go back to stock you will not be able to run anything more advanced then what you have now, stock is still gingerbread and will never be updated past that unless you use a custom rom. There are many sense roms that are pretty good for the vision, almost all are better than stock in some way, I would suggest trying a few out to find what works best for you
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That's just it, I'm tired of going through and flashing roms that are missing features/bugged/slow. Some I like, for instance Gen.Y R3, trickdroid, revolution(all snappy and quick) but they just miss that one feature I need most(eg auto rotate screen or htc locations is broken). Unless someone recommends one that fits the G2 on dzhboot perfectly I'm willing to flash one last time.
Honestly Virtuous Sense 2.1 was probably the best custom rom experience I've had because it had the least problems for my specific needs. It also happened to be the first rom I ever flashed to break my android rooting cherry =P.
Personally, I'm not into a lot of customizing right now, I just want a rom that I am satisfied with and forget about. I'm going back to Virtuous Sense in the meantime while I look for stock HTC sense roms that will update itself so I never have to worry about it again. (anyone know where to find a stock htc sense rom that is going to work on a G2?)

Like I said it won't update it self, htc will never update date this phone again the rom you are using (in my opinion) is better than stock, there are lots of others to try out if you would like, if you want stock that's fine but it will never update past android 2.3.x if you want more features, more stable, better battery life etc... go with a custom rom based off of stock
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demkantor said:
Like I said it won't update it self, htc will never update date this phone again the rom you are using (in my opinion) is better than stock, there are lots of others to try out if you would like, if you want stock that's fine but it will never update past android 2.3.x if you want more features, more stable, better battery life etc... go with a custom rom based off of stock
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Thanks, I guess I skimmed over you mentioning the inability to update, alright time to get back on the flashing rom binge, watch me brick

Its real hard to brick your phone just flashing roms, be sure to do a full wipe!
If you need extra help rizzoizzo made a nice tutorial on how to flash roms for beginners, check in the first few pages of general section and be sure to thank him if it helps ya
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[Q] LG P935 Best ROM?

So I just got this phone yesterday, I bought it used off of kijiji for $130 It is the LG Optimus 4G LTE P935, it was running stock ICS 4.04. I just finished the unbrick method and got it down to Gingerbread 2.3.6, and CWM installed! Now I am ready to install a ROM, which one is best. My other Phone is an HTC One X, running IceColdJelly 3.6 and it is fantastic fast and feature rich. Please advise.
Thanks in advance!

I'm looking for this same answers too. After read through on dev section and find Wind Kernel is the best one far. I need something stable for daily base using.

WarpSeeker said:
So I just got this phone yesterday, I bought it used off of kijiji for $130 It is the LG Optimus 4G LTE P935, it was running stock ICS 4.04. I just finished the unbrick method and got it down to Gingerbread 2.3.6, and CWM installed! Now I am ready to install a ROM, which one is best. My other Phone is an HTC One X, running IceColdJelly 3.6 and it is fantastic fast and feature rich. Please advise.
Thanks in advance!
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I recommend CM 10.1 stable and latest Wind Kernel.

if u want stability go with a stock based mod rom, there is a few nitrotnt, hono v20f bell, liquid nitro v20c, etc i use the hono one.

WarpSeeker said:
So I just got this phone yesterday, I bought it used off of kijiji for $130 It is the LG Optimus 4G LTE P935, it was running stock ICS 4.04. I just finished the unbrick method and got it down to Gingerbread 2.3.6, and CWM installed! Now I am ready to install a ROM, which one is best. My other Phone is an HTC One X, running IceColdJelly 3.6 and it is fantastic fast and feature rich. Please advise.
Thanks in advance!
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It depends on you what the best rom is. Stability, battery drain, modding etc. there are a lot varietys. I think ICS based roms have less battery drain but less modding posibilities like JellyBam or PAC rom. But the stability is not so well to this. And KronicSkillz is modding a lot ICS based roms. Its on you what you like.

I'm using cm10.1.2 with latest wind kernel . no problems so far . just try them all and see which one you like best .
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