DO NOT FLASH A NEW RUU OR OFFICIAL ROM IMAGE UNLESS YOU *REALLY* KNOW WHAT YOU ARE DOING !
Sorry for shouting, but this is very important. Thanks to the mods for making this sticky.
The latest official RUU that has been released - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=870369 - has been found to break the existing methods of rooting and getting full S-OFF.
This shouldn't be a big suprise, because when HTC saw that the amazing devs on XDA had cracked the existing security, we should expect them to put something even tougher in later releases.
So flashing any later release, whether that's an official RUU or just the ROM image (PC10IMG.zip) is a very dangerous thing to do until it has been fully tested and "cleared" by the devs here. i.e. your previously rooted and S-OFF'd phone might lose root and go back to S-ON, and be unable to be rooted and S-OFF'd again.
It's of course fine if your phone came with a particular ROM release to flash that *exact same* release back onto the phone if you want to return to stock. What I'm referring to is flashing a brand new release that isn't the one that came with your phone.
It's fine to flash custom ROMs of course, because those have already been tested out. In general, it's probably best to steer very clear of new official releases, and wait till the devs have pulled them apart and put any cool new stuff into a custom ROM. Then you know it'll be safe to flash.
Currently I don't think it's entirely clear what just flashing a new *radio* on its own will do, as opposed to the entire ROM/RUU. That's still being worked on. But steer clear of even that if you're not sure what you're doing or dont' want to take any chances of losing root/S-OFF.
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Thanks for the heads up.
I flashed the ROM you mentioned.
For those who want to try:
Just remember to get REAL S-OFF using gfree before flashing it.
This provide you a medicine for regret. You can get back to WWE ROM using WWE RUU and root/recover your old ROM.
What is RUU? What is it to do with ROMs? Did HTC provide a change log for newer Radio? Or does anyone know what changes are , in the latest Radio?
Just to be clear. Don’t flame me for this please. I’m still learning just like many others in here.
androidtoy09 said:
What is RUU? What is it to do with ROMs? Did HTC provide a change log for newer Radio? Or does anyone know what changes are , in the latest Radio?
Just to be clear. Don’t flame me for this please. I’m still learning just like many others in here.
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We don't have a changelog, no.
RUU is ROM Update Utility. It's a program to run on Windows (.exe) which flashes your new ROM for you, and holds your hand through the process. It's possible to extract just the ROM zip file from the exe so you can flash it yourself if you want.
The thing about the RUU and stock ROMs is that they will flash pretty much *everything* on your phone. So as well as a new system partition (the main stuff for Android), you'll probably get a new hboot, new radio, new recovery. Those *might* all have increased security which is a lot more difficult to crack. So generally you should not flash it until we know it's "safe" to do so, i.e. it can be re-rooted and S-OFF'd etc.
steviewevie said:
We don't have a changelog, no.
RUU is ROM Update Utility. It's a program to run on Windows (.exe) which flashes your new ROM for you, and holds your hand through the process. It's possible to extract just the ROM zip file from the exe so you can flash it yourself if you want.
The thing about the RUU and stock ROMs is that they will flash pretty much *everything* on your phone. So as well as a new system partition (the main stuff for Android), you'll probably get a new hboot, new radio, new recovery. Those *might* all have increased security which is a lot more difficult to crack. So generally you should not flash it until we know it's "safe" to do so, i.e. it can be re-rooted and S-OFF'd etc.
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Ok, thanks for clearing it up. So, RUU is pretty much similar to the method RIM uses to flash its OS on the Blackberries.
Im a little confused here.. So just to clear some things up i hope someone will answer these questions i have.
I have the software on my Desire Z that it came with (1.34.405.5), which i've rooted, S-off'ed and installed another kernel for OC porpuses. This is working fine, but lets say that i wanted to try another rom .. After some time i decide to go back to the stock software and then update to the newest software, would that be a problem? And has HTC released some newer software than the one iam using?
If you flashed back to stock, that would be fine. But if you flashed a new official update (e.g OTA), then you run the risk of installing something that you can't root/S-OFF.
It is best to steer clear of any official upgrades until they've been checked by the devs here and been given the all-clear.
Given that the phone came with certain areas write-protected, and the devs managed to crack that, we should be expecting HTC to release an even more secure update.
Yes, there is a new ROM out, at the moment for Egypt, that seems to have increased security. It would not be a suprise if HTC rolled out similar security as an OTA update for all existing ROMs. Right now there is something in that Egypt ROM (probably the hboot, at the minimum) which mean existing permanent root and S-OFF methods fail. It may be this is easily cracked again, or maybe it will take some time, who knows.
Bottom line - don't apply any official updates to your phone if it is rooted/S-OFF or you plan to root/S-OFF.
Sent from my HTC Desire Z
perm-rooted g2 stock tmobile rom s-off
ok, my question is....i perm-rooted my g2 and have s-off, does this mean that i cant except the new gingerbread OTA update? ive had my fill of flashing roms with my old windows phone.. att tilt, tmobile touch pro 2, and tmobile hd2. im not looking to flash my g2 with a new rom...no offense to the chefs. love there work. but i only rooted the g2 to get rid of the bs apps that tmobile and google added to the phone. and i thought i heard that wen u root the phone tmobile cant tell wen u tether, so there for no more throttle b/s but thats not true...i must have miss read. but i would like to stay w/the stock rom and still b able to install the Gingerbread OTA. please someone provide an answer for me or point me in the right direction. thank you in advance.... sorry if the answer is already provided somewhere and i over looked it, i tend to do that a lot.
blitz69 said:
ok, my question is....i perm-rooted my g2 and have s-off, does this mean that i cant except the new gingerbread OTA update? ive had my fill of flashing roms with my old windows phone.. att tilt, tmobile touch pro 2, and tmobile hd2. im not looking to flash my g2 with a new rom...no offense to the chefs. love there work. but i only rooted the g2 to get rid of the bs apps that tmobile and google added to the phone. and i thought i heard that wen u root the phone tmobile cant tell wen u tether, so there for no more throttle b/s but thats not true...i must have miss read. but i would like to stay w/the stock rom and still b able to install the Gingerbread OTA. please someone provide an answer for me or point me in the right direction. thank you in advance.... sorry if the answer is already provided somewhere and i over looked it, i tend to do that a lot.
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The trouble is, HTC/T-Mobile don't want you to root and/or S-OFF your phone, because it's a lot easier to end up bricking the phone if you don't know what you're doing. They put greatly increased security on the G2/DZ/DHD when they came out, in order to help prevent this.
Now this security has been cracked, we can expect HTC/T-Mobile to try and increase security even further (e.g. closing loopholes that let our current methods of root/S-OFF work) in future updates.
So if you accept any future OTA, you run a high risk of accepting something that will lock you out of root and S-OFF, at least temporarily, and possibly permanently (depending on how good a solution they come up with).
If you are not bothered about root/S-OFF, then that's fine of course.
This doesn't mean that you necessarily have to switch to a custom ROM to get updates though. If you stay with the stock ROM (and I'm still on a stock ROM too right now), then just do not accept the update when an OTA comes out, and keep checking these forums to see when the devs say that they can root/S-OFF with the new version. When they say it's ok then you know you can apply the update and still get root/S-OFF.
This already happened with the G2. Very soon after release, but after rooting had been achieved, there was an OTA. Most people here decided to wait until the OTA had been looked at, and sure enough there was a small adjustment needed to the rooting method. But of course this OTA was before HTC had a chance to respond to the cracking of the security, so as I said, any future updates may well require a lot more time and effort from the devs to investigate and crack again.
Ok. Thank you very much
Will this muff up my phone if I factory reset it by using the Power+Volume Down option?
Ok,there is a new gfree method to get root and S-Off.
And gfree can now also be used to set radio S-ON.
But what about the backup "part7backup-1291675121.bin"
which gfree created at my sdcard?
No longer needed?
And with the new root and S-Off method,is it now possible to
to flash stock RUU 1.34.405.5 to get all original?
Because with old UBERROOT method this doesn`t work!
Ganii said:
Ok,there is a new gfree method to get root and S-Off.
And gfree can now also be used to set radio S-ON.
But what about the backup "part7backup-1291675121.bin"
which gfree created at my sdcard?
No longer needed?
And with the new root and S-Off method,is it now possible to
to flash stock RUU 1.34.405.5 to get all original?
Because with old UBERROOT method this doesn`t work!
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What do you mean with gfree?
Is my waranty broken When i execute radio s-off?
Is it possible to make it radio s-on?
Yes,warranty is broken,but with the new gfree method
you can go back to S-ON:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/index.php?title=HTC_Vision#Rooting_the_G2
ericjosepi said:
Will this muff up my phone if I factory reset it by using the Power+Volume Down option?
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If you do a factory reset then I think you'll lose root, but you can get it back again easily enough. The issue for this thread is flashing new updated stuff from HTC etc.
Ganii said:
Ok,there is a new gfree method to get root and S-Off.
And gfree can now also be used to set radio S-ON.
But what about the backup "part7backup-1291675121.bin"
which gfree created at my sdcard?
No longer needed?
And with the new root and S-Off method,is it now possible to
to flash stock RUU 1.34.405.5 to get all original?
Because with old UBERROOT method this doesn`t work!
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You might still need that backup, e.g. if you don't know what your old CID was and you want to un-do that bit too. I would keep it.
Sorry I don't think I understand your last question though, or why you say the uberroot method (I'm personally not keen on that name, it's just the usual method using Visionary/rage with gfree, not a new method) doesn't work.
Ok,so I can go back to S-ON with gfree commands from here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/index.php?title=HTC_Vision#Rooting_the_G2
If you are only interested in permanent root you only need radio S-OFF and then it is sufficient to use
# ./gfree -s off
instead of
# ./gfree -f
in the following commands.
And gfree can now also be used to set radio S-ON by using the "-s on" option and to change the CID back to the original value be using i.e. "-c T-MOB010" if you want or have to go back.
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But for CID (you mean SuperCid right?) I need the backup?
And with the last question which you don`t understand,I mean
with flashing the HTC RUU 1.34.405.5 I don`t go back to S-ON
and original CID whether I use UBERROT method or this from here:
(Rooting the Vision (G2/DZ) and DHD)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/index.php?title=HTC_Vision#Rooting_the_G2
Thanks for the advice, I will stick myself with the current rom for a while
Ganii said:
Ok,so I can go back to S-ON with gfree commands from here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/index.php?title=HTC_Vision#Rooting_the_G2
But for CID (you mean SuperCid right?) I need the backup?
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Yes, I mean to go from your SuperCID back to your regular CID. You might not know what your original CID was.
And with the last question which you don`t understand,I mean
with flashing the HTC RUU 1.34.405.5 I don`t go back to S-ON
and original CID whether I use UBERROT method or this from here:
(Rooting the Vision (G2/DZ) and DHD)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/index.php?title=HTC_Vision#Rooting_the_G2
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Yes, if you flash a stock ROM then it won't affect your S-OFF and CID status (or SIM unlock). These are stored in your radio configuration partition, and not in any of the partitions which are overwritten by the ROM flash.
So I'm ending Verizon and need to give my phone to best buy for the buyback program but I don't think they will take it running rooted I know the new ota is out but what do I do to do this ota do I flash a froyo stock rom? Or ...
Help me out guys thanks alot ill miss my incredible and y'all aswell
Ill be getting att infuse 4g over the HTC inspire 4g I think..
Sent from my NookColor using Tapatalk
I'd put it back to stock 2.2. There are a couple "get back to stock" threads in the development section, basically you'll just have to flash the S-ON zip in recovery, then flash the stock 2.2 RUU.
Just wondering, does Verizon refuse to work on your phone if it is rooted? Different scenarios:
1) Hardware issue. Do they care if it is S-Off and has a custom ROM?
2) Will they not even touch a phone that is obviously rooted?
3) Do they care about S-Off when you take it in?
Evo 4G over here, Sprint works on rooted phones. If it is a software issue they will RUU you, but won't mess with S-Off
Thanks! this is helpful
tropicalbrit said:
Just wondering, does Verizon refuse to work on your phone if it is rooted?
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I personally would return the phone to stock before returning it for a hardware issue, but I think most Verizon employees (a) don't care about rooting because their phones are probably rooted as well, or (b) wouldn't even know what S-OFF means or what to look for to determine if a phone's rooted. This is assuming you're just going in to your neighborhood Verizon store for a few questions or something, not for warranty issues, those people that receive the phones might look for root, who knows?
I think there's a lot more paranoia about rooting and Verizon's stance on it than is warranted though. I've seen all sorts of rumors about Verizon "tracking" rooted users, or building a database of rooted phones. Those kind of rumors have been going on for a while with no sort of confirmation or anything whatsoever coming from them.
FWIW, I've returned a rooted, s-off Incredible, with an Unrevoked splash screen to Verizon for a warranty repair. The employee did not care. (or maybe they just didn't have a clue.)
k_nivesout said:
I'd put it back to stock 2.2. There are a couple "get back to stock" threads in the development section, basically you'll just have to flash the S-ON zip in recovery, then flash the stock 2.2 RUU.
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Question
I flash both at the same time like
S-on tool then right away stock ruu?
Sent From My Optimized HTC Incredibly Dinc
The timing doesn't really matter, but the S-ON zip has to be flashed in recovery whereas the RUU is flashed in hboot. The RUU replaces CWM recovery with the stock recovery, and you couldn't flash the S-ON zip with the stock recovery. But it shouldn't matter as far as flashing the RUU *right* after the S-ON zip, since the RUU is official HTC firmware, you can flash it with S-ON, anytime. Bear in mind that you can't downgrade with S-ON though, for example, if you flash the 2.3 RUU (with S-ON) there's no way to get back to 2.2.
Thinking about it, even if you flashed the RUU first, you still have S-OFF, so would be free to install a custom recovery & superuser then flash back to whatever.
i may need to go to bone stock for warranty purposes and then go s-on. if i flash the latest ruu (2.3.4) and then go to s-on (how do i go to s-on?) then can i get back to s-off if they actually fix my piece and send it back?
No. S-on via Clockworkmod, then flash 2.2 RUU. Then, when you want to root, use unrevoked
No need to go to newest stock, any stock with s-on should work. If they send you back an updated phone you can still downgrade and s-off from 2.3.4. Search forum for s-off and downgrade. It's doable - i've done it with help from here.
Just get the phone back to stock s-on. It doesn't matter if its 2.2 or 2.3 as long as its stock. They will send you a new phone that is updated already. Then to re root just downgrade and use unrevoked3
Sent from my Incredible Stock+ Ginger Tiny
oh so with s-on i can downgrade using an ruu and then unrevoked it? i thought some updates could block root forever a.k.a. u cant downgrade anymore to unrevoke. guess i was wrong. gonna submit my claim to square trade soon. hope they send me an upgraded phone lol.. rezound would be nice.
Ya that would be nice but you will either get the original incredible or the incredible 2. Any ways, the original 2.2 downgrade should work. I have tried it my self and I don't see where people have problems. I bricked my phone really bad and had to install the actual bootloader. But point is I had no problems downgrading and rooting again. Let me know if it worked for you. It should since you have a bootloader still.
Sent from my Incredible hd / gingedtiney
I first rooted my phone using revolutionary-0.4pre4.zip file to get the s-off and then flashing SuperUser su-2.3.6.3-efgh-signed.zip. This worked just fine. I've been ok with the stock rom so I haven't changed it. I wanted the new update when it came out and some threads said I needed to UNroot in order to update. Therefore I ran PC36IMGson.zip which hasn't help me either, but now my phone is back to s-on but seems to still be rooted (since Titanium Backup, Rom Manager, and SuperUser are still working fine).
Now, I'm done with it all and would like to flash some other rom But I can't get back to s-off! revolutionary thinks it's still set to s-off each time I run it, but the bootloader screen still says s-on. Unrevoked doesn't work either since my device is unsupported.
Any ideas???
I'm pretty new to all of this and have been trying to figure this on my own with XDA and youtube videos. So clear, step-by-step instructions is best, THANKS!!
My device:
Sprint Evo 4g
supersonic evt2-3 ship S-ON
hboot-6.17.0001
Radio-2.15.00.0808
Version 2.3.3
kernel 2.6.35.10-g13578ee
You dont need to unroot and grab the OTA update. Just flash the lastest stock rooted ROM. It comes packaged with the latest updates pushed by Sprint.
Edit: This thread is exactly the reason why mods have created stickies. Try putting forth some effort in looking for an answer yourself before creating a thread. You can do this by using the search feature or checking the thread that was an inch below the button you pushed to create this one.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=865204
Concordium said:
You dont need to unroot and grab the OTA update. Just flash the lastest stock rooted ROM. It comes packaged with the latest updates pushed by Sprint.
Edit: This thread is exactly the reason why mods have created stickies. Try putting forth some effort in looking for an answer yourself before creating a thread. You can do this by using the search feature or checking the thread that was an inch below the button you pushed to create this one.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=865204
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Thank you Concordium, Please use the stickies to learn more about xda before you start asking questions. Also the search feature works wonders, much faster than trying to look through all 5,000+ pages in our dev section alone. Please please please use the tools already given to you.
tlp80 said:
I first rooted my phone using revolutionary-0.4pre4.zip file to get the s-off and then flashing SuperUser su-2.3.6.3-efgh-signed.zip. This worked just fine. I've been ok with the stock rom so I haven't changed it. I wanted the new update when it came out and some threads said I needed to UNroot in order to update. Therefore I ran PC36IMGson.zip which hasn't help me either, but now my phone is back to s-on but seems to still be rooted (since Titanium Backup, Rom Manager, and SuperUser are still working fine).
Now, I'm done with it all and would like to flash some other rom But I can't get back to s-off! revolutionary thinks it's still set to s-off each time I run it, but the bootloader screen still says s-on. Unrevoked doesn't work either since my device is unsupported.
Any ideas???
I'm pretty new to all of this and have been trying to figure this on my own with XDA and youtube videos. So clear, step-by-step instructions is best, THANKS!!
My device:
Sprint Evo 4g
supersonic evt2-3 ship S-ON
hboot-6.17.0001
Radio-2.15.00.0808
Version 2.3.3
kernel 2.6.35.10-g13578ee
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Thanks for coming into my store. I'm glad we could fix that for ya. Remember to condition your battery and check out shipped-roms.com for the latest RUU's
Thanks
Ryan
Hello XDA members!
This is officially my first thread and folks I am in need of some help! Let me start off by letting everyone know, I have honestly done my best with searching for an answer on the forum and Google. Another thing is, I truly apologize for any inconvenience, if I make this thread in the wrong section of the forum or if this has been asked and solved already.
My whole goal is to take back my EVO 4G to my local Sprint store to either fix my 4G Antenna or get a refurbished Evo. If I luck up, I might get a substitution with a Evo 3D. That it is if there out of stock. I do have Asurion insurance and it has not exceeded the 90 day warranty the Evo 4G comes with from HTC.
Now on to the problem with the Evo 4G. I'm struggling to UNROOT and S-ON my Evo 4G from Revolutionary root. In my case, I'm no expert around this whole ordeal. I'm very familiar with rooting and friendly with guides. I've followed every guide that I came across, but still cannot S-ON my Evo 4G!
For those that would like to know when I boot into HBOOT I get the following:
SUPERSONIC EVT3 SHIP S-OFF
HBOOT-2.16.0001
MICROP=041f
TOUCH PANEL-ATMEL224_16ab
RADIO-2.15.00.0808
MAR 8 2011, 17:02:15
*NOTE THAT "REVOLUTIONARY" NO LONGER SHOWS ON MY HBOOT SCREEN, ONCE I FLASHED AN S-ON IMAGE.
*NOTE THE DATE AND TIME ON MY HBOOT IS CLEARLY OUT OF DATE. IT SEEMS TO BE STUCK ON THAT TIME. I HAVE NO IDEA WHY, NOR DO I KNOW IF THIS COULD BE A FACTOR.
Folks I have tried just about everything that I can think of. I've downgraded my radio to see if it changed anything. (Nothing). I tried flashing different stock images to see if it changed anything. (Nothing). I tried running RUU's to see if that changed anything. (Nothing). I really don't know what's left for this bad boy. Is there any different way of changing the security flag on? adb, fastboot, terminal?
Any answers and help is greatly appreciated! Thanks and hope to get some feedback soon!
-Bruce
http://forum.xda-developers.com/sho...ighlight=ow+to+unroot+revolutionary???&page=2 go there and read captain throwbacks post, its post #15. i used that before and it did the trick.
You need to downgrade your radio again to the 2.15.00.11.19 or earlier radio then flash the unrevoked forever s-on tool to get S-on.
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shortydoggg said:
You need to downgrade your radio again to the 2.15.00.11.19 or earlier radio then flash the unrevoked forever s-on tool to get S-on.
Sent from my PC36100 using XDA Premium App
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The unrEVOked S-ON zip will only work on the unsigned 6.17 HBOOT, however. So, the steps you'll need to take are:
1) Flash custom recovery via PC36IMG (Amon_Ra v2.3 recommended)
2) Downgrade radio to 2.15.00.11.19 or older
3) Flash modded 6.17 HBOOT
4) Flash unrEVOked S-ON zip through recovery.
You should be S-ON at that point, and then finally you flash a stock ROM (4.54 recommended) to restore your device completely to stock.
Hey folks!
I apologize for the long reply back guys. I'm currently away on vacation and haven't had time to check out the forum.
I will definitely try all of the advice posted! Once again, thank you very much! I really do appreciate it. I will get back to the thread and let you know how everything goes as soon as I can! I'm sorry for any inconvience.
-Bruce
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