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S-ON and update troubles

Afternoon all,
I will try to provide all of the information I can in hopes someone can give me an idea on where I stand and where I need to go from here to get my phone the way I would like it.
Incoming Evo information:
MEID - A100000D98BC65
Version - 0002
Baseband - 2.15.00.07.28
Kernel - 2.6.32.15-g746f4f0 #58
Build - 3.26.651.6
PRI - 1.34_003
PRL - 60674
Bootloader Information:
SUPERSONIC EVT2-2 SHIP S-ON
HBOOT- 0.93.0000
Root Method - Simple Root (forget which version)
Quick Background:
I don't know much about rooting phones but have come to understand the process and reasons behind it over the past several months. Purchased my phone on release, rooted it very early, all is great. I have always had the S-ON feature on my phone and it seems that several ROM's I would like to take advantage of require the S-OFF feature as to my understanding, it means you have "full root". I could be/probably am wrong here.
With the talk of backing up RSA keys to not lose 4G and other hiccups popping up, I want to make sure I use the best possible method to get everything as it should be. I currently ran the original PC136IMG (I believe this is the RUU) to bring my phone to "stock". My reasoning behind this was to push my phone to full stock and re-root to attain the S-OFF feature.
Now when I boot into bootloader and attempt to flash, I get a black screen with an EVO and a Red triangle/exclamation sign. What throws me off is because I can get into the bootloader, running the aforementioned RUU didn't seem to unroot me. To be honest, I don't even know if there is a full unroot method even avilable as numerous Google searches really give a wide variety of answers.
What I am trying to do:
All I would like to do is unroot my phone and then re-root it with a newer method so I can have S-OFF feature and update all my Radios/PRI/etc.... that I need to do so I can get the full functionality of my phone. I *think* Calk has a thread on this and although I have read it numerous times, maybe I am to dense to get it and need a helping hand. If anymore information is needed, I am happy to oblige. Thanks to anyone who can lend me a hand.

You kind of jumped the gun with the unrooting, you could have just ran Unrevoked Forever and called it a day. But now that you are unrooted, use Unrevoked 3.32 and that will fully root your phone for you, including replacing your recovery (I believe it gives you Clockwork). Do that, you'll be good to go http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=896298

Can you update to thread newest sprint software update (3.70)?
Sent from my evil evo!!

evolishesh said:
Can you update to thread newest sprint software update (3.70)?
Sent from my evil evo!!
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Just go to settings system updates ,HTC update ,and make it phone search for ota,it should prompt u to download the 3.70 update and than ull know u r full unrooted and up to date,than run unrevoked ,,,,that way ull b updated and rooted...

Thanks for the quick advice. My only worry with unrevoked is I have heard that it has the possibility of losing RSA keys. Does that have any truth behind it or will unrevoked put me to S-OFF and from there I am golden.

I ran Unrevoked3 earlier today. I downloaded an Amon recovery img and had unrevoked install that (File / Custom Recovery) instead of Clockwork after hearing about some WiMax issues with Clockwork.
After completing the root, I did step 6A from http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=829045. This should back up the RSA keys, after the fact at least. You need to be rooted to complete the steps using adb.
So far no trouble with 4G. It connects to sprint and lets me transfer data, so things look good. FWIW, my radio is 2.15.00.11.19, with PRI 1.90_003, on software 3.70.651.1.

Quick update. First, thank you all for your contributions to me with this. I went ahead and followed the unrevoked method and everything seems to look good on my end. All updates are there, S-OFF is on (terrible at puns), and all is well for now at least. Also, thanks for the help on that Skypoint but I have yet to venture into the wild wilderness that is adb which I will probably leave for another day. Anyways, thanks once more all as I do really appreciate it.

Prymo said:
Quick update. First, thank you all for your contributions to me with this. I went ahead and followed the unrevoked method and everything seems to look good on my end. All updates are there, S-OFF is on (terrible at puns), and all is well for now at least. Also, thanks for the help on that Skypoint but I have yet to venture into the wild wilderness that is adb which I will probably leave for another day. Anyways, thanks once more all as I do really appreciate it.
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Glad you got it all worked out

[Q] Need some help

Hello,
I am extremely new to this process and recently just rooted my EVO and would like to know the proper procedures to return my phone to stock if there is an issue eventually with my phone. I rooted using UnrEVOked3 and have the custom recovery installed when it was rooted. I did run a back up recovery right after I rooted.
I tried to figure it out on my own by flashing the RUU that was on theunlockr's site and it worked but was hesitant to run the OTA software update with "S-OFF" still activated. So I rerooted my phone and tried their "S-ON utility but now can’t run the RUU due to a bootloader error. I tried searching but there is so many threads about it that it gets confusing so I figured I would ask directly what my steps should be.
A couple questions:
Should my next step be rerooting the phone and then running the RUU?
Will running a RUU and then running an OTA update be ok if “S-OFF” is still activated?
Will running an OTA update turn “S-OFF” back to “S-ON”?
After I return complete stock can I reroot in the future if I want?
My Bootloader at this time looks like this:
SUPERSONIC EVT2-3 SHIP S-ON
HBOOT-2.10.0001
MICROP-04if
TOUCH PANEL-ATMEL224_16ab
RADIO-2.05.00.06.10
Oct 15 2010, 10:07:00
Sorry for being so new about this but any help will be appreciated. Thanks.
(EDIT: I just read the first post in this thread topic and I'm going to try that since it seems like I'm halfway there. Sorry for killing a kitten lol)

Lol its all good man did you get all your answers or you need help?
~ d3rk

The real only question is can I reroot after I return to stock from unrevoked?

b2project said:
The real only question is can I reroot after I return to stock from unrevoked?
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Yes you can! Many people unroot when they drop by sprint for whatever reasons, then they root all over again. Me, I'm a rebel, I give the reps my phone with cm7 on it lol.
~ d3rk

b2project said:
The real only question is can I reroot after I return to stock from unrevoked?
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Yea you can. Just re-run unrevoked.

Thanks, if I run into any issues when I run the PC36IMG I'll be back

Rooted 2.2 then OTA update to 2.3... half root?

Hi,
I rooted my phone with Unrevoked when it was at 2.2 froyo. When the gingerbread OTA came around I was cautious about me being rooted and accepting a OTA update. I searched all around saying it wouldn't do anything, this will happen, etc.... When I first updated it everything was fine...Until I used one of my root apps. OK fine I'm not rooted. But when i used this app called the blizzard authenticator it would say i have a rooted phone. So is my phone half rooted? If its possible, I would like to go back to the day that i first bought the phone and restart everything. I can provide further details about my phone if asked.
S-off
HBoot 2.16.0001
Thanks!

I don't quite get what you want.
But if you just want to go back like it was out of the box, hop over the development forum and grab an RUU and return to stock.
here is a link, pick one http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=884060

Oh ya i forgot. Im a n00b. So get the RUU and hope for the best?

Yep, it will erase everything (not SDCARD) and you will be back like the day it came out of the box.

Alright my noobness is kicking in haha. I see like 15 of them. [ROM] RUU SuperSonic EvO 3.70.651.1 OTA - Stock - Sense - Deodexed & Odexed Version originally posted by teshxx would be the one?

Nevermind i didnt even see ur link. Thanks so much ill post the results

Muffspring18 said:
Hi,
I rooted my phone with Unrevoked when it was at 2.2 froyo. When the gingerbread OTA came around I was cautious about me being rooted and accepting a OTA update. I searched all around saying it wouldn't do anything, this will happen, etc.... When I first updated it everything was fine...Until I used one of my root apps. OK fine I'm not rooted. But when i used this app called the blizzard authenticator it would say i have a rooted phone. So is my phone half rooted? If its possible, I would like to go back to the day that i first bought the phone and restart everything. I can provide further details about my phone if asked.
S-off
HBoot 2.16.0001
Thanks!
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If you used Unrevoked and got s-off, and then ran the ota update, to get your full root back you just need to flash either Amon ra or Clockworkmod recovery and make sure the superuser app is up to date.

Ok everything went well with the RUU. How do i know for sure this is stock 2.3 no root. Say i were to bring my evo into the sprint store for repair would they find out that i was rooted before?

before u run a ruu or pc36img u need to flash the s-on tool from unrevoked. since ur hboot is 2.16 now u have to run the 4.24 ruu or pc36img. if u do flash s-on tool and 4.24 ruu, u will NOT be able to root again as of now b/c no root method has been developed yet!! you have been warned

Muffspring18 said:
Ok everything went well with the RUU. How do i know for sure this is stock 2.3 no root. Say i were to bring my evo into the sprint store for repair would they find out that i was rooted before?
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when u boot into bootloader does it say S-ON or S-OFF???? s-off means it has been rooted

S-Off. I might want to root in the future when there has been a root developed tho. For right now i want to go back to being non rooted.

ok...since ur s-off u can flash a recovery (clockwork or amon) from the bootloader and then start flashing roms again at anytime now. If ur trying to take ur phone to the store i dont think being s-off will really matter. As long as u have deleted any apps or files from ur sd card that are root give aways u can just play dumb at store like "uh idk maybe it came that way".

Ok so besides the fact that the S-Off Im all set? Or am i still half rooted?

u should be set

[Q] HTC Incredible running 2.3.4 and 2.15.10.07.07 - Please help get S-OFF

I was able to run an older version of Unrevoked to establish SU access, but Unrevoked Forever is incompatible with my radio version. So, I have SU access, but I cannot remove or convert any applications using Titanium Backup. TB runs, but it reboots the phone if I try to remove system apps. HBOOT shows S-ON since Unrevoked Forever was not able to complete due to the radio version. So, am I stuck with S-ON? Is Unrevoked Forever going to continue developing releases to cover 2.15.10.07.07?
If I understand correctly, I cannot flash an older radio version with S-ON. Please correct me if I am wrong.
Thanks!
HTC Incredible
2.3.4
Baseband: 2.15.10.07.07

you are correct,s-on will only let you go forward with "approved by htc" files. that means no backpeddling firmware to a rootable version,no flashing only a radio or recovery. im surprised that unrevoked even worked to get you su access,i was under the impression that all exploits had been patched in 2.3.4 source code. what happens if you try and install clockwork?
if you truly have su access,it seems it may be possible to use adb to rewrite the misc image,and thus be able to flash backwards in firmware.
however,from the sounds of the behavior youre describing for tibu,i dont believe you have su access. it prolly only put the app in the drawer,and was unable to place the matching binary.
we have been telling folks for months that they should become s-offed before the GB update,as it would be unrootable.
i bought an xtc clip awhile back that is supposed to support the incredible. i dont know that it will actually work,ill know for sure when it gets here. im told it only works with sim card phones,wich the inc is not,but its clearly listed in the supported devices.
your only real hope at this point is that someone finde a new exploit that will allow temp root and re-writing of the misc image so that you can flash older rootable firmware,or that alpharev/unrevoked can add the incredible to its supported devices list,as they use some sort of hboot trickery to get a hard patched permanent s-off hboot onto the phone first. from there you load a recovery thru hboot,then flash su in recovery.
sorry this isnt the news youre hoping for.

Thank you for the help.
It is odd. I definitely have su access through terminal, and I am running opengarden and barnacle wi-fi tether. I ran an older version of Unrevoked, and it did not complete the final step of s-off. Clockworkmod installed successfully, and I created a recovery image. Can we expect some way to root after the GB update? Is this just an HTC thing? I'm sorry for all of the questions, but I was soooo close!

efizzle said:
Thank you for the help.
It is odd. I definitely have su access through terminal, and I am running opengarden and barnacle wi-fi tether. I ran an older version of Unrevoked, and it did not complete the final step of s-off. Clockworkmod installed successfully, and I created a recovery image. Can we expect some way to root after the GB update? Is this just an HTC thing? I'm sorry for all of the questions, but I was soooo close!
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If you already have clockwork mod, flash the unrevoked forever zip from here

When I flash the zip file, I get E:/ unsupported radio version. E: update failed.

Do you have adb set up and running? Are you fairly comfortable copy/pasting commands?
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still with us? waiting for an answer to the above so we can procede
also is it possible you can post or PM me a link to the version of unrevoked you used?
if you dont have a link,just email me the whole file( [email protected] ) im extremely interested in trying to duplicate your condition and figuring out a reliable way for folks to downgrade and root.

Scotty,
I'm sorry for the delayed response.
I do not have ADB setup, but I have no problem following directions to get S-off and reclaim some memory!
I have emailed you the Unrevoked file to your email address. This should run perfectly on 2.3.4 with the exception of the last step of flashing unrevoked.zip for S-off. You will see the "unsupported radio version" errors on the phone's screen. Please let me know if there is anything else that I can do to help. Thank you for your help with this.

I got your email. I will put some stuff together for you,and try it out and see if it all works the way I hope it will. If so ill upload a mini-adb with some exploits files and post a guide. Basically,were just going to rewrite the misc image so you can downgrade back to froyo and run unrevoked forever. After you reroot and get s-off back,you can restore a backup of what you have now.
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Subscribing to thread. Looks interesting, Im hopeful it works out. Good luck!
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Ok after reading this thread again. My guide for the merge on froyo or the stuff I have for gingerbread for the merge will not work on a non emmc device. 2nd who buys a xtc clip and doesn't look what they buy? The way it works is with the sim card slot. Inc doesn't have one so it isn't going to work. It also isn't listed as supported as it would be pointless to say it does.
If I am not mistake with s-on you can't flash the recovery partition. So how did you get clockworkmod? If you have clockworkmod then you can flash non htc files. Well actually I am not sure how that would work as you have s-on but clockworkmod. Since I have never been in that boat I am unsure.
So are we talking about the inc or inc 2? If inc I am trying to think back to the desire and what was possible on s-on. If I remember right you can dump the misc then flash a lower version ruu. I just can't remember if it doesn't even flash or if it does and doesn't downgrade the radio. By the way I got it in a pm/here scotty was planning to base helping you off my merge guide. By the sounds of it anyway.
Where the commands are not the same. As the partitions would be different. The misc-image is also not the same so if he had you flash the merge misc it will more than likely bork stuff. I am more than willing to help though. How ever I do not check the forums so you are better off pming me. I will say that nothing will probably work until unrevoked supports the new radio.
Edit: If the incredible works with a goldcard. Dump the misc partition and edit it for the firmware version you want to downgrade to. Then run a lower version ruu. When that is done run unrevoked. Of course I don't have a inc so I am not sure if that will work either. I also jumped a bit to conclusions so sorry for that. I also do not get your one post about the xtc clip here, yet in that other post say the clip doesn't support the inc.

thanks for your input,but rest assured we are in no way shape or form refering to anything to do with drellisdees's guide,your copy of it,or any other files,guides,etc. you have linked or posted on this site or yours.
he allready has root access and a recovery partition.
again,thanks for your input,but please stop confusing the issue with your references to merge guides.

for others watching this,a crude guide is now up on android forums:
http://androidforums.com/incredible-all-things-root/427344-2-3-4-root-downgrade-s-off.html
root 2.3.4 with unrevoked 3.22 has now been done successfully twice,and 1 has successfully roled back to 2.2.
more testers welcome

Confirmed. Worked for me. Was s on 2.3.4.
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My Incredible also is S-on with Verizon 2.3.4 OTA and never rooted. I'll give that "crude guide" a try tonight and report back how it went.
I'm just tired of all the low memory notifications and the constant force closes. Hopefully, I can have a custom mod installed tonight if things go well.

SUCCESS!!
Instructions from the website flawlessly for me.
I first rooted the phone. Then I tested it with some root only apps. They all worked. So ideally you can stop here if all you want is root but next OTA will take away root and then you'll be stuck again.
I completed all the steps and they worked. I was able to downgrade to 2.2 and then run unrevoke3 to root and also turn S-off. It did wipe the data clean. No files from my SDcard were deleted.
This is the time i've rooted my phone and the whole process took me an hour because I was being extra careful not to miss any steps. It all went smoothly.

glad it worked out for you. we finally worked out enuff bugs i put it up here as well: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1306400
efizzle seems to have dropped off the face of the earth everyone who reads this should make sure to click the "thanks" button in his first post. we wouldnt have it if hadnt figured out the 3.22 secret.(we would still have zergRush,but not root with access and the ability to make nandroids and backups with tibu so easily).
once again,thanks efizzle

Worked like a champ. I did a recovery back to 2.3.4 and it worked as expected. Also brought back all my force close issues. So I used ROM Manager and installed Cyanogen7 and am loving it.
clicking the thanks button a few times for this help

Ok, I'm on Linux, Ubuntu Lucid Lynx 10.04.3 to be exact, and I have adb installed. Where can I find the Linux version of unrevoked 3.22. I have found several places on the interwebz but I'm not sure if I trust those sources.
Help Please
Just like the op I have a Dinc that is on Gingerbread 2.3.4 and baseband 2.15.10.07.07 and desperate to have root. S-OFF would be nice, but root would be just fine for now.
More than happy to be the Guinea-pig on a Linux system.

sorry,i have no idea. i did a quick search and couldnt even find the windows version of 3.22 that i uploaded... i wanted to link it at its source,since it was emailed to me,but im not sure where he downloaded it from. you might follow the link in the first post credits to the original xda thread and ask on that thread,or send efizzle a private message and see if he can help you. in a worse case scenario,as long as you have 3.32 for linux,you could get temp root and downgrade with the "zergRush" method described in past #2. it doesnt require 3.22,but you wont be able to make a backup,or run titanium unless you can push SU,the binary,and busybox to their respective locations after acquiring a temp root.

[Q] UNroot from SD (noob)

My friend just gave me his EVO 4G. Now, as the username suggests, I get to finally replace my Hero.
I wish to unroot it, go stock, and upgrade to the newest official version of Gingerbread. He currently has "King's Room hybrid 3D".
He said he used "Unrevoked". Is there a difference between "Unrevoked" and "Unrevoked Forever"?
Supersonic EVT2-3 SHIP S-OFF
HBOOT-2.10.0001
RADIO-2.15.00.11.19
HTC Sync has never worked on my computer, so I'm stuck doing this SD.
I can't post in the Development forum and I haven't had any luck finding a thread where a) root is unknown b) unroot from SD. Please move this thread, if necessary.
Please help

1. You don't need to unroot to be on the latest 'official gingerbread' ; There are a few stock rooted roms [nothing fancy, i.e, stock] in the dev section, by brad and i beleive miseryinmotion. Just do a full wipe, then flash the rom. This is best so you can change. In addition, if you go to the latest OTA, rooting it is NOT simple.
2. Unrevoked forever was a zip used to give you root in the early ons of the tool, but the 'forever' zip was integrated into the simple unrevoked tool. The 'forever' was that is gave you nand unlock.

Please heed teh roxxorz. He is absolutely correct. There is no need to unroot to get the official latest GB ROM . It is available here in the forum, along with MANY other custom ROMs, and kernels which may become difficult or impossible for you to try if you unroot now and update your hboot thru an OTA or RUU.
From what I understand, revolutionary doesn't work to root the latest hboot. There is the HTCdev unlock, but that leaves you S-on (nand locked), which I believe means no flashing radios or kernels.
Welcome to the Evo community. You will always find better goods here than what sprint has to offer, but if you want what sprint has to offer,...well, that's here, too. Good luck.
Edit: the hboot 2.10 and radio 11.19 that you currently have is what many members here have been desperately trying to downgrade to (after having a phone replaced or inadvertently taking on OTA ) so they can achieve the S-off status that you currently possess. Lol
Just thought that was amusing and worth pointing out.
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