i may need to go to bone stock for warranty purposes and then go s-on. if i flash the latest ruu (2.3.4) and then go to s-on (how do i go to s-on?) then can i get back to s-off if they actually fix my piece and send it back?
No. S-on via Clockworkmod, then flash 2.2 RUU. Then, when you want to root, use unrevoked
No need to go to newest stock, any stock with s-on should work. If they send you back an updated phone you can still downgrade and s-off from 2.3.4. Search forum for s-off and downgrade. It's doable - i've done it with help from here.
Just get the phone back to stock s-on. It doesn't matter if its 2.2 or 2.3 as long as its stock. They will send you a new phone that is updated already. Then to re root just downgrade and use unrevoked3
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oh so with s-on i can downgrade using an ruu and then unrevoked it? i thought some updates could block root forever a.k.a. u cant downgrade anymore to unrevoke. guess i was wrong. gonna submit my claim to square trade soon. hope they send me an upgraded phone lol.. rezound would be nice.
Ya that would be nice but you will either get the original incredible or the incredible 2. Any ways, the original 2.2 downgrade should work. I have tried it my self and I don't see where people have problems. I bricked my phone really bad and had to install the actual bootloader. But point is I had no problems downgrading and rooting again. Let me know if it worked for you. It should since you have a bootloader still.
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Hi,
I rooted my phone with Unrevoked when it was at 2.2 froyo. When the gingerbread OTA came around I was cautious about me being rooted and accepting a OTA update. I searched all around saying it wouldn't do anything, this will happen, etc.... When I first updated it everything was fine...Until I used one of my root apps. OK fine I'm not rooted. But when i used this app called the blizzard authenticator it would say i have a rooted phone. So is my phone half rooted? If its possible, I would like to go back to the day that i first bought the phone and restart everything. I can provide further details about my phone if asked.
S-off
HBoot 2.16.0001
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I don't quite get what you want.
But if you just want to go back like it was out of the box, hop over the development forum and grab an RUU and return to stock.
here is a link, pick one http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=884060
Oh ya i forgot. Im a n00b. So get the RUU and hope for the best?
Yep, it will erase everything (not SDCARD) and you will be back like the day it came out of the box.
Alright my noobness is kicking in haha. I see like 15 of them. [ROM] RUU SuperSonic EvO 3.70.651.1 OTA - Stock - Sense - Deodexed & Odexed Version originally posted by teshxx would be the one?
Nevermind i didnt even see ur link. Thanks so much ill post the results
Muffspring18 said:
Hi,
I rooted my phone with Unrevoked when it was at 2.2 froyo. When the gingerbread OTA came around I was cautious about me being rooted and accepting a OTA update. I searched all around saying it wouldn't do anything, this will happen, etc.... When I first updated it everything was fine...Until I used one of my root apps. OK fine I'm not rooted. But when i used this app called the blizzard authenticator it would say i have a rooted phone. So is my phone half rooted? If its possible, I would like to go back to the day that i first bought the phone and restart everything. I can provide further details about my phone if asked.
S-off
HBoot 2.16.0001
Thanks!
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If you used Unrevoked and got s-off, and then ran the ota update, to get your full root back you just need to flash either Amon ra or Clockworkmod recovery and make sure the superuser app is up to date.
Ok everything went well with the RUU. How do i know for sure this is stock 2.3 no root. Say i were to bring my evo into the sprint store for repair would they find out that i was rooted before?
before u run a ruu or pc36img u need to flash the s-on tool from unrevoked. since ur hboot is 2.16 now u have to run the 4.24 ruu or pc36img. if u do flash s-on tool and 4.24 ruu, u will NOT be able to root again as of now b/c no root method has been developed yet!! you have been warned
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Ok everything went well with the RUU. How do i know for sure this is stock 2.3 no root. Say i were to bring my evo into the sprint store for repair would they find out that i was rooted before?
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when u boot into bootloader does it say S-ON or S-OFF???? s-off means it has been rooted
S-Off. I might want to root in the future when there has been a root developed tho. For right now i want to go back to being non rooted.
ok...since ur s-off u can flash a recovery (clockwork or amon) from the bootloader and then start flashing roms again at anytime now. If ur trying to take ur phone to the store i dont think being s-off will really matter. As long as u have deleted any apps or files from ur sd card that are root give aways u can just play dumb at store like "uh idk maybe it came that way".
Ok so besides the fact that the S-Off Im all set? Or am i still half rooted?
u should be set
So I'm ending Verizon and need to give my phone to best buy for the buyback program but I don't think they will take it running rooted I know the new ota is out but what do I do to do this ota do I flash a froyo stock rom? Or ...
Help me out guys thanks alot ill miss my incredible and y'all aswell
Ill be getting att infuse 4g over the HTC inspire 4g I think..
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I'd put it back to stock 2.2. There are a couple "get back to stock" threads in the development section, basically you'll just have to flash the S-ON zip in recovery, then flash the stock 2.2 RUU.
Just wondering, does Verizon refuse to work on your phone if it is rooted? Different scenarios:
1) Hardware issue. Do they care if it is S-Off and has a custom ROM?
2) Will they not even touch a phone that is obviously rooted?
3) Do they care about S-Off when you take it in?
Evo 4G over here, Sprint works on rooted phones. If it is a software issue they will RUU you, but won't mess with S-Off
Thanks! this is helpful
tropicalbrit said:
Just wondering, does Verizon refuse to work on your phone if it is rooted?
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I personally would return the phone to stock before returning it for a hardware issue, but I think most Verizon employees (a) don't care about rooting because their phones are probably rooted as well, or (b) wouldn't even know what S-OFF means or what to look for to determine if a phone's rooted. This is assuming you're just going in to your neighborhood Verizon store for a few questions or something, not for warranty issues, those people that receive the phones might look for root, who knows?
I think there's a lot more paranoia about rooting and Verizon's stance on it than is warranted though. I've seen all sorts of rumors about Verizon "tracking" rooted users, or building a database of rooted phones. Those kind of rumors have been going on for a while with no sort of confirmation or anything whatsoever coming from them.
FWIW, I've returned a rooted, s-off Incredible, with an Unrevoked splash screen to Verizon for a warranty repair. The employee did not care. (or maybe they just didn't have a clue.)
k_nivesout said:
I'd put it back to stock 2.2. There are a couple "get back to stock" threads in the development section, basically you'll just have to flash the S-ON zip in recovery, then flash the stock 2.2 RUU.
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I flash both at the same time like
S-on tool then right away stock ruu?
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The timing doesn't really matter, but the S-ON zip has to be flashed in recovery whereas the RUU is flashed in hboot. The RUU replaces CWM recovery with the stock recovery, and you couldn't flash the S-ON zip with the stock recovery. But it shouldn't matter as far as flashing the RUU *right* after the S-ON zip, since the RUU is official HTC firmware, you can flash it with S-ON, anytime. Bear in mind that you can't downgrade with S-ON though, for example, if you flash the 2.3 RUU (with S-ON) there's no way to get back to 2.2.
Thinking about it, even if you flashed the RUU first, you still have S-OFF, so would be free to install a custom recovery & superuser then flash back to whatever.
Ok so I got impatient and installed the Gingerbread update that VZW pushed out a week or so ago, found the file here since I wasnt one of the lucky few to get the OTA push. I flashed it through HBOOT since it was a signed file, please note that I'm not rooted and the phone is completely stock. I want to go back to 2.2 stock and wait for the official, and apparently I'm not doing something right. running the RUU for the 2.2 gives me a bootloader version error, and dropping the zip named PB31IMG.zip and flashing through hboot gives me the "main version is older" error. I have tried installing Unrevoked 3 and it gets past the last reboot, after "waiting for system to settle" message, it says "running root" for a few minutes then says "unable to get root, is your firmware too new?"
...so yea, I'm guessing I'm S.O.L.? Sorry kinda noob here, came from the Eris forum, I guess theres a few things that are different.
What problems are you having with the RUU that you flashed? You can't downgrade, as you found out, so being stock S-ON you don't have many options other than flashing a different 2.3 stock image, and/or waiting for the actual OTA.
resyek83 said:
Ok so I got impatient and installed the Gingerbread update that VZW pushed out a week or so ago, found the file here since I wasnt one of the lucky few to get the OTA push. I flashed it through HBOOT since it was a signed file, please note that I'm not rooted and the phone is completely stock. I want to go back to 2.2 stock and wait for the official, and apparently I'm not doing something right. running the RUU for the 2.2 gives me a bootloader version error, and dropping the zip named PB31IMG.zip and flashing through hboot gives me the "main version is older" error. I have tried installing Unrevoked 3 and it gets past the last reboot, after "waiting for system to settle" message, it says "running root" for a few minutes then says "unable to get root, is your firmware too new?"
...so yea, I'm guessing I'm S.O.L.? Sorry kinda noob here, came from the Eris forum, I guess theres a few things that are different.
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The only way i know to get back to 2.2 is to s-off your phone then ruu the 2.2. which will get you back to s-on 2.2, but you will be get the update nag every day once they start pushing the OTA out again.
resyek83 said:
Ok so I got impatient and installed the Gingerbread update that VZW pushed out a week or so ago, found the file here since I wasnt one of the lucky few to get the OTA push. I flashed it through HBOOT since it was a signed file, please note that I'm not rooted and the phone is completely stock. I want to go back to 2.2 stock and wait for the official, and apparently I'm not doing something right. running the RUU for the 2.2 gives me a bootloader version error, and dropping the zip named PB31IMG.zip and flashing through hboot gives me the "main version is older" error. I have tried installing Unrevoked 3 and it gets past the last reboot, after "waiting for system to settle" message, it says "running root" for a few minutes then says "unable to get root, is your firmware too new?"
...so yea, I'm guessing I'm S.O.L.? Sorry kinda noob here, came from the Eris forum, I guess theres a few things that are different.
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For the moment, I think you are SOL, only because the same thing happened to me.
If you have 2.3.4 and S-ON, there's not really a way to downgrade back to 2.2, as HBOOT won't allow a downgrade. In fact, only PB31IMG.zip files that are signed by HTC will allow to be flashed. All others will not be recognized by HBOOT.
Unrevoked will no longer root after you have flashed RUU and have S-ON. You will get the error you are describing.
I have also tried newer root tools, such as Revolutionary, which is in the Beta phase.
Unfortunately, this method is not supported for the Incredible, and per Unrevoked's support channel on IRC, this is not likely, as apparently a phone that is only over a year old is considered a 'Legacy' device.
At this point we can only hope for the following:
HTC unlocks the Bootloader for the Droid Incredible on HTCdev.com. Only a handful of devices are listed at the moment.
Team Unrevoked releases a new version of Unrevoked that can find an exploit for 2.3.4 and enable root.
Revolutionary adds support for 'legacy' devices such as the incredible.
We are in a small minority, but hopefully enough devices will get the OTA, or refurbs get sent out with 2.3.4 that users will eventually require a new way to root.
Hang in there.
Yeah, if you're s on then from everything I've read, your screwed for now.
ahh ok....yea i kinda figured. I should have done a tad more research before I did it....everything works ok at the moment, except my battery life isnt as good as it was, but its not terrible. I guess I'll wait for the official OTA or wait and see if Unrevoked can come up with a solution.
your best option woulda been to root first. While you still had S-off flash the file you found here. Then if you wanted you could have reinstalled Clockwork recovery and superuser and either flash a stock rom or unroot. whats killing you is S-on.
TheBr0ken said:
your best option woulda been to root first. While you still had S-on flash the file you found here. Then if you wanted you could have reinstalled Clockwork recovery and superuser and either flash a stock rom or unroot. whats killing you is S-off.
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Doing that with S-On is what has OP in this position in the first place. You have the right idea but mixed up S-On and S-Off.
TheBr0ken said:
your best option woulda been to root first. While you still had S-on flash the file you found here. Then if you wanted you could have reinstalled Clockwork recovery and superuser and either flash a stock rom or unroot. whats killing you is S-off.
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Thank you, Captain Hindsight. In my situation, I was coming from a Rooted, 2.3 Sense 3.0 ROM, with S-Off.
I believe S-off is swicthed back to S-ON when you flash the RUU.
In the mean time, my phone is borked. Too new of a firmware on too "old" of a device.
SlimSnoopOS said:
Doing that with S-On is what has OP in this position in the first place. You have the right idea but mixed up S-On and S-Off.
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yup, fixed.
deadsoulboy said:
Thank you, Captain Hindsight. In my situation, I was coming from a Rooted, 2.3 Sense 3.0 ROM, with S-Off.
I believe S-off is swicthed back to S-ON when you flash the RUU.
In the mean time, my phone is borked. Too new of a firmware on too "old" of a device.
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what killed you was you musta flashed the s-on patch for some reason. I ran the same file you did. I still have s-off
The RUU does NOT turn the security flag to -ON. You do lose root until you flash a custom recovery and superuser, which is done easily.
Any hope for us S-ONs with 2.3.4? Is there something by way of unrevoked or something we can flash to try and get back to root?
There has to be something...
So I have a droid inc that I'm sending back in, and I want to revert it to stock. Right now, I'm running s-off, with a rooted stock OTA 2.3.4 (Incubusj's, I think) with the latest CWM. What do I need to do to make this thing bone stock to return it? I've done a search, and maybe I just suck at searching, but I can't find good, concise directions, and I don't want to screw it up.
sk8erord said:
So I have a droid inc that I'm sending back in, and I want to revert it to stock. Right now, I'm running s-off, with a rooted stock OTA 2.3.4 (Incubusj's, I think) with the latest CWM. What do I need to do to make this thing bone stock to return it? I've done a search, and maybe I just suck at searching, but I can't find good, concise directions, and I don't want to screw it up.
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Search for the Ultimate get back to stock thread. It'll tell you what you need to to to get back to Stock 2.2 with S-ON.
That thread seems rather old. I'm running the 2.15.10.07.07 radio on hboot .92. Do I still just run the s-on and then run the RUU?
Well, was probably unnecessary, but I reverted to the old radio, flashed a rooted stock rom, then ran s-on through recovery, then a stock pb31img rom through bootloader. So it is bone stock again.
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That thread seems rather old. I'm running the 2.15.10.07.07 radio on hboot .92. Do I still just run the s-on and then run the RUU?
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True, that thread is old, but the info is still good. Good call on reverting back the radio, as you don't want that to cause any troubles. Pretty easy to get back to stock and S-ON huh?
So the usb port on my EVO is messed up. Sometimes I have to wiggle it around in order for it to charge and if I move the usb cable it disconnects. This also makes it a hassle to transfer files between my phone and PC. I want to bring in my phone to repair, so I have to unroot it. I just want to make sure I go about this correctly. I want to unroot it and have it still be rootable again. I don't know what information you guys need, I'll give you as much as I can.
Hardware 0003
I rooted it with unrEVOked 3 and I didn't have to use the unrEVOked forever s-off patch, the unrEVOked 3 did that. I rooted it stock (did not update ever). I'm currently running a 2.3.5 rom with HTC Sense 3.5.
Would flashing Forever S-ON and then a PC36IMG through hboot be all I would need to do? Would the phone be rootable again after they repair it?
Yes, put a pc36img of a stock rom on the root of the card, then reboot and run s-on tool. Or run s-on tool and then run a stock ruu.
My radios or anything like that don't matter?
Also can I have a link to a stock PC36IMG? I have one but I don't know if it's 2.2 or 2.3.
Edit: Nvm it's froyo! I will unroot and update you on my progress.
When I attempted to flash S-ON, I got an error:
Unsupported radio version.
I booted into HBOOT, my radio is currently 2.15.00.05.02
How do I downgrade (or upgrade, whatever I need to do) my radio?
vulf search for calkulkin's thread about radios. The thread has every radio starting from the beginning to the newest radio. Take an older one and flash it in recovery. You should be good to go.
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My friend just gave me his EVO 4G. Now, as the username suggests, I get to finally replace my Hero.
I wish to unroot it, go stock, and upgrade to the newest official version of Gingerbread. He currently has "King's Room hybrid 3D".
He said he used "Unrevoked". Is there a difference between "Unrevoked" and "Unrevoked Forever"?
Supersonic EVT2-3 SHIP S-OFF
HBOOT-2.10.0001
RADIO-2.15.00.11.19
HTC Sync has never worked on my computer, so I'm stuck doing this SD.
I can't post in the Development forum and I haven't had any luck finding a thread where a) root is unknown b) unroot from SD. Please move this thread, if necessary.
Please help
1. You don't need to unroot to be on the latest 'official gingerbread' ; There are a few stock rooted roms [nothing fancy, i.e, stock] in the dev section, by brad and i beleive miseryinmotion. Just do a full wipe, then flash the rom. This is best so you can change. In addition, if you go to the latest OTA, rooting it is NOT simple.
2. Unrevoked forever was a zip used to give you root in the early ons of the tool, but the 'forever' zip was integrated into the simple unrevoked tool. The 'forever' was that is gave you nand unlock.
Please heed teh roxxorz. He is absolutely correct. There is no need to unroot to get the official latest GB ROM . It is available here in the forum, along with MANY other custom ROMs, and kernels which may become difficult or impossible for you to try if you unroot now and update your hboot thru an OTA or RUU.
From what I understand, revolutionary doesn't work to root the latest hboot. There is the HTCdev unlock, but that leaves you S-on (nand locked), which I believe means no flashing radios or kernels.
Welcome to the Evo community. You will always find better goods here than what sprint has to offer, but if you want what sprint has to offer,...well, that's here, too. Good luck.
Edit: the hboot 2.10 and radio 11.19 that you currently have is what many members here have been desperately trying to downgrade to (after having a phone replaced or inadvertently taking on OTA ) so they can achieve the S-off status that you currently possess. Lol
Just thought that was amusing and worth pointing out.
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