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[SOLVED] ROM or Radio first?

Hi there.
Erm.. this is kinda weird question, say that the ROM that you wish you flash requires a different radio from your current one, will you actually flash the new radio first then only the ROM?
Or you will flash ROM then only radio. Will there be any impact?

ROM first.
9 times in 10 it won't make any difference but there's a chance a ROM might replace the radio anyway.

Thanks Mr_JMM!

I think it doesn't matter..You only need to match your libhtc-ril and radio....
Go to see this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1040986

im going to upgrade to gingerbread
so does it mean i should install gingerbread rom before gingerbread radio ?

psuser said:
im going to upgrade to gingerbread
so does it mean i should install gingerbread rom before gingerbread radio ?
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I've done ROM then radio about 5 or 6 times now just playing around with different ROM and radio combinations & never had any problems doing it ROM then radio

psuser said:
im going to upgrade to gingerbread
so does it mean i should install gingerbread rom before gingerbread radio ?
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Yes, ROM first.
Mods: This thread can be marked solved and closed now I think.

However....
SOME ROMs when going from certain radio's to certain radio's have had reports that it is better to flash the radio before the ROM.
This seems to have cropped up with the latest GB Sense ROM's.
So I take it back, as a rule of thumb, flash ROM first, I still stand by that, however, check with the ROM first but be aware such things are usually buried deep in a thread and maybe something that gets fixed with later updated versions of that ROM.
Again. ROM first but when a brand new ROM comes out, specifically the new GB Sense ROM's, check the first 5-10 pages.
At time of post, LeeDroid's ROM v3.0.0 is one such ROM that might work better with Radio flashed first.
My apologies but this info is very very recent.

OK, that could make sense. Thought I stepped in deep doo-doo earlier, but rocked back to life with the nan backup. Scared me all to hell, but I might try flashing the radio, then LeeDroid. When coming from CM7 rc3 - It froze on boot.

I did radio first them ROM and had no issues.
iOO 4.2

[Q] What radio to go with when flashing to RCMix HD v6.0.0.1?

I'm about to use RCMix HD and hopefully stick with it, I have no idea which radio to get though and I can't post in the thread itself yet, hopefully someone can give me an idea of what radio to get, I'd greatly appreciate it.
Thankyou.

Hello,
I was under the impression that the RCmix 6.0.0.1 would come with the latest radio and matched RIL from the latest release that it is based off. I am new to ROMing so dont take my word for it though.
Please post back your results.

I've been using;
Radio_12.54.60.25_26.09.04.11_M2_test
RIL_12.35d.60.140f_26.08.03.07_M
its been the best that ive used so far (used it with RCMix HD v6 and with Android Revolution HD 5.1).

RoBe30 said:
Hello,
I was under the impression that the RCmix 6.0.0.1 would come with the latest radio and matched RIL from the latest release that it is based off. I am new to ROMing so dont take my word for it though.
Please post back your results.
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I think the RIL is included, i didnt think the radio was....then again i'm new to this whole thing as well!

I don't even know what an RIL is, haha, do I need one?

RIL stands for Radio Interface Layer. As i understand it the software that allows the rom to talk to the radio. I have also read that people have had successful results without updating the RIL. I havnt updated mine and it works fine.

The RIL is apparently only needed for sense ROMS (RCMix, CoreDroid, ARHD etc.). Non-sense roms (such as CM7) dont require a RIL.
As far as I know, a radio will still work without the matching RIL, but it just works better with the correct RIL

superevo rom's question...

hello guys,i flashed superevo this rom ：
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=781296
but i have some question,every times i open the setting→Wirless and Network→Mobile Network....show the error and return...i cant open mobile network...!!somebody know??i really really like this rom!!,i have upgrade Radio/PRI/NV/Wimax/hboot....etc...
EVO_Radio_2.15.00.05.02
EVO_WiMAX_27243
EVO_PRI_2.15_003
EVO_NV_2.15_003
EVO_HBoot_2.10.0001
is this the crux of problem??
help.....

That is a pretty old ROM that looks like it hasn't been worked in months.

All of those, radio, wimax, etc came with the newest 2.3 update and you're on a 2.2 rom. That's probably the problem. You can either reflashed all of those that are meant for a 2.2 rom or flash a 2.3 rom
We're comin from a pure power source.

It also looks like many other users had some issues with it well. It is built off of an old base too. If you like the looks, try CM7 or another AOSP rom.
this one below is a senseless sense ROM which is similar to what the other one was as well.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1092221

Thanks every one's reply!!!!
i'm successful working,the problem is not the radio/pri/nv....ect!!
is the language setting problem!!
because i'm Taiwanese,if i choose the English language then i well working...
that's a very incredible issuses...

[Q] RIL Confusion

Hi Everyone,
I'm a bit confused with RIL files and i would like to have some clarifications.
From what i am reading on sense roms needs to be flashed with RILs which i get. I currently have Radio 12.56.60.25U_26.10.04.03_M and i flash the Ril 12.56.60.25U_26.10.04.03_M when i'm using this ROM DHD_WWE_3.12.405.1_STOCK_rooted_by_nitr00. Ok, so for AOSP/AOKP/MIUI Roms i shouldn't need to install andy RILs correct? Just install the ROM and go, right? Also if i do want to try out Sabsa Prime v8.5 is there a new set of Rils that i need to use or do i use the Ril i was using before?
For people who have different brand phones other than HTC is there a Ril alternate that needs to be installed to match the radio or is it flash ROM and go?
Many thanks everyone. This have been stopping me from trialing out different Roms except for modified sense gingerbread roms like ARHD.

dragon884 said:
Hi Everyone,
I'm a bit confused with RIL files and i would like to have some clarifications.
From what i am reading on sense roms needs to be flashed with RILs which i get. I currently have Radio 12.56.60.25U_26.10.04.03_M and i flash the Ril 12.56.60.25U_26.10.04.03_M when i'm using this ROM DHD_WWE_3.12.405.1_STOCK_rooted_by_nitr00. Ok, so for AOSP/AOKP/MIUI Roms i shouldn't need to install andy RILs correct? Just install the ROM and go, right? Also if i do want to try out Sabsa Prime v8.5 is there a new set of Rils that i need to use or do i use the Ril i was using before?
For people who have different brand phones other than HTC is there a Ril alternate that needs to be installed to match the radio or is it flash ROM and go?
Many thanks everyone. This have been stopping me from trialing out different Roms except for modified sense gingerbread roms like ARHD.
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Only use RILs on ROMs that are both Sense and pre-ICS. For all other ROMs (like Sabsa Prime, which is ICS) you just flash the ROM and you're good.

bananagranola said:
Only use RILs on ROMs that are both Sense and pre-ICS. For all other ROMs (like Sabsa Prime, which is ICS) you just flash the ROM and you're good.
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Just to make it a little more understandable:
Every Rom needs a RIL;
But in many Custom Roms the Devs already build in the RILs;
The RIL must correspond with your Radio; if it doesnt, you will end up with no Reception;
See the quote below and the the related Thread for more detailed Information.
I just followed the discussion some days ago, cause I wanted to update My Desire HD to the latest Radio, and didn't wanted to brick my phone.
It's always better to understand why things behave like they do, instead of follow some instruction without being aware whats happening.
ShadowPony said:
I don't entirely agree with your statements.
EVERY ROM comes with a RIL. Period. No exception, otherwise the radio doesn't work.
For AOSP ROMs there is a RIL, but have not seen it apart from ROM.
With Sense everything gets weirder because HTC released a new RIL for almost any combination of Sense with OS (at least until ICS, where old RILs no longer function properly)
even with any sense ROM, you can only flash the baseband (radio), and if you have reception problems, then also go for the RIL
also, the latest radio with RIL is: 12.69.60.29_26.17.14.11_M
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=30564790#post30564790 (this thread)
@o4kareg, GetRIL reports matching baseband/RIL for me with 12.69.60.29_26.17.14.11_M and the corresponding RIL
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Greetings from Cologne
unbeteiligter

I use Sabsa Prime 8.5 on radio 12.65.60.29U_26.14.04.28_M without flashing any RIL. GPS and Phone works brilliant!

hardsoft said:
I use Sabsa Prime 8.5 on radio 12.65.60.29U_26.14.04.28_M without flashing any RIL. GPS and Phone works brilliant!
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Right!!
your Rom has the RIL included...
my DHD runs on radio 12.69a.60.29U_26.17.14.11_M also without extra installing RIL...
cause it's included in my ROM by the Dev.

unbeteiligter said:
Right!!
your Rom has the RIL included...
my DHD runs on radio 12.69a.60.29U_26.17.14.11_M also without extra installing RIL...
cause it's included in my ROM by the Dev.
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So if i don't want to update my radio what RIL should i use for my version? will the gingerbread Ril be used? and how about AOSP roms? I had be experiences updating the radio before. i've update radio + matching RIL and my phone cannot hold a call connection longer than 10mins.

dragon884 said:
So if i don't want to update my radio what RIL should i use for my version? will the gingerbread Ril be used? and how about AOSP roms? I had be experiences updating the radio before. i've update radio + matching RIL and my phone cannot hold a call connection longer than 10mins.
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Unless you have a GB Sense ROM, just use the RIL that came with the ROM.

[Q] Any such thing as *fully* working ICS/JB + Sense4 ROM?

Hi Everyone,
Long time listener, first time caller.
Over the last couple of months, I have tried virtually every ROM I can get my hands on for my DHD, and I always do a full wipe (format) of /system, /data, /cache, Dalvik, and .android_secure before install.
The only ICS ROM I can get working fully is Blackout, but it is Sense 3.6.
I have tried Viper, and *really* like it, but Bluetooth is broken (in 1.2.0, .1, .2, and .3)
That seems to be the case for me with Sense 4 ROMs (lite or full); if Bluetooth works, then WiFi is broken. If WiFi works, then Bluetooth is broken.
ROMs I've tried (latest):
Viper
Miui
Jellytime
ARHD
Blackout (S3.6, which is where I'm at b/c it works)
IceCold
IceSense
CosmicSandwich
Sabsa
codefireX
Kernels I've tried (various releases up to latest):
Beastmode
KangBang
Virtuous
So, I'd like to know if there is such a thing as a fully-working ICS/JB ROM with Sense 4? I cant seem to find one. W/o Bluetooth and WiFi, nothing can be considered a "daily driver", imo... especially w/o Bluetooth, if you know what I mean.
Thanks!

I'm baffled; all of those ROMs should have both BT and wifi fully working. What's your recovery and version?
EDIT: and what's your radio?

coolhands said:
Hi Everyone,
Long time listener, first time caller.
Over the last couple of months, I have tried virtually every ROM I can get my hands on for my DHD, and I always do a full wipe (format) of /system, /data, /cache, Dalvik, and .android_secure before install.
The only ICS ROM I can get working fully is Blackout, but it is Sense 3.6.
I have tried Viper, and *really* like it, but Bluetooth is broken (in 1.2.0, .1, .2, and .3)
That seems to be the case for me with Sense 4 ROMs (lite or full); if Bluetooth works, then WiFi is broken. If WiFi works, then Bluetooth is broken.
ROMs I've tried (latest):
Viper
Miui
Jellytime
ARHD
Blackout (S3.6, which is where I'm at b/c it works)
IceCold
IceSense
CosmicSandwich
Sabsa
codefireX
Kernels I've tried (various releases up to latest):
Beastmode
KangBang
Virtuous
So, I'd like to know if there is such a thing as a fully-working ICS/JB ROM with Sense 4? I cant seem to find one. W/o Bluetooth and WiFi, nothing can be considered a "daily driver", imo... especially w/o Bluetooth, if you know what I mean.
Thanks!
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bananagranola said:
I'm baffled; all of those ROMs should have both BT and wifi fully working. What's your recovery and version?
EDIT: and what's your radio?
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Same here, bluetooth is one of the few things that ALWAYS work (except for 4.2.1, but that's expected).
Are you wipping between flashes ?

Thanks for the replies, guys.
As I outlined above, yes, I am fully wiping b/t ROM installs - even restores - please see my method in first post.
I am using ClockworkMod Recovery (HBoot for booting) and have paid for ROM Manager, which entitles me to further updates to CWM than what is available on Play. I currently have 5.8.1.5 installed (CWM Touch).
The radio varies from ROM to ROM it seems, and I should have documented which version in each ROM, but right now, in Blackout, it is reporting 12.56.60.25P_26.10.04.03_M. <--- That number stays consistent, afaik, but the first letter will change (U and T, iirc).
When I say that Bluetooth doesnt work, specifically what happens is that it either doesnt pair with any device, or if it does pair, no sound will be transmitted or the pairing will only last for a second, maybe two seconds at most.

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The radio shouldn't be changing with each ROM unless you change it. But with that said, nothing seems out of the ordinary. You could try reflashing your radio manually? Other than that I'm out of ideas.

bananagranola said:
The radio shouldn't be changing with each ROM unless you change it. But with that said, nothing seems out of the ordinary. You could try reflashing your radio manually? Other than that I'm out of ideas.
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I dont know much about that, but with that said, I just re-flashed Viper 1.2.3 and my radio now reads:
12.56.60.25U_26.10.04.03_M, which is different than it was above with Blackout.
I have not tried re-flashing my radio manually. I wouldnt know which one would give me a better chance of success...

bananagranola said:
The radio shouldn't be changing with each ROM unless you change it. But with that said, nothing seems out of the ordinary. You could try reflashing your radio manually? Other than that I'm out of ideas.
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Once I flash a new ROM, the kernel and the radio are the same I had or the new ROM comes with its own kernel and radio?
Thanks in advance

roms do not come with radios tho they do have their own kernels. Radios are region based not rom based so there is no rom specific radio just what works best in your area.
Sent from my Desire HD using xda premium

Reinaldo33897 said:
roms do not come with radios tho they do have their own kernels. Radios are region based not rom based so there is no rom specific radio just what works best in your area.
Sent from my Desire HD using xda premium
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Thanks for the explanation. So, if I bought my mobile in Spain, the radio is different if I had bought, for example in France?

depends on how close they are to each other whether same service is used in Spain as in France or if they are totally two different service. I would Google the carrier you use then see what radio they shipped with. Even in the radio thread you may find an answer to which radio is good for you in the area your at.
Sent from my Desire HD using xda premium

Reinaldo33897 said:
depends on how close they are to each other whether same service is used in Spain as in France or if they are totally two different service. I would Google the carrier you use then see what radio they shipped with. Even in the radio thread you may find an answer to which radio is good for you in the area your at.
Sent from my Desire HD using xda premium
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Thanks a lot. I gonna do what you have said

you have tried almost every rom except for the ( pacman rom v18 ) its a jelly bean 4.1.2 based rom , i am stuck with it , every thing is working perfectly ( wifi , bluetooth , camera .... etc )
with some common tweaks i get an excellent battery life ,its even better than it was in the stock gingerbread rom ...
by the way , its non-sense rom

ghassan haddad said:
you have tried almost every rom except for the ( pacman rom v18 ) its a jelly bean 4.1.2 based rom , i am stuck with it , every thing is working perfectly ( wifi , bluetooth , camera .... etc )
with some common tweaks i get an excellent battery life ,its even better than it was in the stock gingerbread rom ...
by the way , its non-sense rom
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I'll try it. Thanks.
What are the "common tweaks" for battery life?

coolhands said:
I'll try it. Thanks.
What are the "common tweaks" for battery life?
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