anyone know if there will be an inductive charging pad and case for our notes ?
still nothing ?
I saw a Korean sample at CES this year. It worked pretty good since I have tested with my note. But so far nothing...
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possible, but...
as far as i know, the required connections are not available in the current design for inductive charging to be possible. However, It has been done before by hard soldering the coil from a palm pre to the logic board, specifically to the usb ±5V power line. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1451668
Could they not case that the note fit into and it uses the micro-usb socket to charge, I have seen external battery`s like this, it should not be that difficult to add an inductive charge coil/receiver.
Or make a slightly reduce capacity battery with the inductive charge coil/receiver buit in.
John
i was thinking along the lines of a battery , i remember seeing a mod where someone added inductive charging to his older phone by taking out the induction coil and soldering it to the charging pins and was very neat
Wireless Charging for Galaxy Note
I have found this site that is selling Wireless Charging Cases for Galaxy Note.
is a Korean company that is making some cases/covers for Galaxy Note, compatible with QI standard.
There is also a video on YouTube
I wonder if they ship outside of Korea.....
any help ?
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Why isn't there an inductive case that charges the phone through the pogo pins? I know that the is a mod to do this yourself, but why isn't a professional one available?
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Why isn't there an inductive case that charges the phone through the pogo pins? I know that the is a mod to do this yourself, but why isn't a professional one available?
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Well, here's your chance to make millions.
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Sounds like a great idea but it might be hard to design a case that keeps constant contact with the pogo pins without damaging them when pressure is applied to the case. Would probably have to use some spring pogo pins which would result in a pretty bulky case (on that side at least)
Didn't think of that. That might be a problem. Still, I think that gnex accessories are seriously lacking. (car dock) wtf
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Actually, if it were a case, it would fit snugly enough that you wouldn't need spring loaded contacts. Any sort of metallic contact would do, however thin. I like this idea.
I saw this in another forum
http://forums.androidcentral.com/ve...d-palm-touchstone-no-soldering-phone.html#anb
I can see several problems:
Charge speed:
Without proper signalling, the pogo pins will only charge at USB rates. meaning restricted to 500mA. The phone comes with a 1 amp charger for a reason. We are just now decoding the signalling here in the forums, an IC and Voltage regulator are needed. This would make for a pretty thick case.
NFC tags:
I'm not 100% sure on this, but would think that the charging coil will block the NFC from working properly.
USB:
When the phone is charging with the pogo pins, the USB port is disabled, they are exclusive of each other. Might not be so much of a problem, but still something to keep in mind.
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I can see several problems:
Charge speed:
Without proper signalling, the pogo pins will only charge at USB rates. meaning restricted to 500mA. The phone comes with a 1 amp charger for a reason. We are just now decoding the signalling here in the forums, an IC and Voltage regulator are needed. This would make for a pretty thick case.
NFC tags:
I'm not 100% sure on this, but would think that the charging coil will block the NFC from working properly.
USB:
When the phone is charging with the pogo pins, the USB port is disabled, they are exclusive of each other. Might not be so much of a problem, but still something to keep in mind.
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Charging: You would need to use a modified kernel like Franco's - not an easy sell for a company looking to mass-produce these cases.
NFC: When I did my case mod I slid the coil up a bit so about half of the battery was not blocked. The NFC works fine. NFC will NOT work while charging b/c of electrical interference, so do not put an NFC tag on your charger base.
Also, those pins are small which makes it tricky to make & keep contact with the case. I ultimately popped the back & ran 2 stripes of copper tape to the outside of the phone, covering the pins. This gave me a pair of 1/4" x 3/4" contact points. The copper tape in the case makes solid contact & life is great. The tape pieces are hidden by the case.
Here is my review video! I am a huge fan of the palm touchstone wireless charging mod and this is the best way to get it...
http://youtu.be/NGvyWBOQy0U
Nice, couple questions.
Do you use a case? I have an Otterbox Commuter and was wondering if that is thin enough to still register.
Also, will that back cover work on the Energizer Qi charging system?
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Thanks for the video!, few questions tho:
Does it work with a case (I imagine this will be a popular question)
Is the quality of the back cover noticeable different to the stock back cover? Or is it a completely stock totally 100% the same back cover with the wireless charging mod?
And what charging pad do you recommend?
Unfortunately I do not use cases as I just use a clear shield so I have no idea if it works with otterbox or any case.
This mod will not work with any pad. It will only work with the Palm Touchstone. I dont recco any pad as I only recco the touchstone. I like having one in my car, at the office and one on the nightstand.
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Unfortunately I do not use cases as I just use a clear shield so I have no idea if it works with otterbox or any case.
This mod will not work with any pad. It will only work with the Palm Touchstone. I dont recco any pad as I only recco the touchstone. I like having one in my car, at the office and one on the nightstand.
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Can you try just putting something a few mm's thick between the phone and the charge pad and seeing if it still charges?
i got this mod with a 3mm thin case from ebay. they work perfectly.
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It works with a few mm but not sure how that affects charging. Please dont just take my word for it. Dont want you spending 30 on a back cover you cant use. But if it doesnt work i will buy it from ypu for a major discount. Lol
I dont believe qi is the way to go. The new nexus has wireless charging like the touchstone. I wonder if its compatible?
probably not. afaik, each of these wireless charging is proprietary and most probably incompatible with each other. The touchstone will only work with touchstone products (atleast from what I understand, it's different frequencies and also component parts differences)
You are probably right but i hope you are wrong... either way i am so surprised more phones dont charge like this.
Nexus 4 Qi
check out the news regarding Nexus 4 Qi "Orb" in this forum at "Qi Wireless accessories " Post# 136 on page 14 (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1933523)
Hi axel. Is there any source to your news?
Nexus4 Qi
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Hi axel. Is there any source to your news?
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To name a few:
http://techcrunch.com/2012/10/29/here-are-the-official-specs-for-the-nexus-4-and-nexus-10/
http://techwhack.com/google-nexus-4-supports-qi-wireless-charging-tech-5300/
http://www.phonearena.com/news/Google-announces-Wireless-Charging-Orb-for-the-Nexus-4_id36060#1-
Google Nexus 4 Wireless
Now on Google's website as well:
https://play.google.com/store/devices/details?id=nexus_4_8gb&feature=microsite
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probably not. afaik, each of these wireless charging is proprietary and most probably incompatible with each other. The touchstone will only work with touchstone products (atleast from what I understand, it's different frequencies and also component parts differences)
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Frequencies have anything to do with it. I'm pretty sure inductive charging uses magnetic fields to charge your device hence the giant coil in the phone cover. BUT, each base is most likely specific to it's counter part coil as different size coils will charge at different rates from the magenet in the base vs the amount of voltage and amps they put through the magnet. So it would make sense if a say Powermat didn't work with a Touchstone coil.
On the other hand, the touchstone uses a standard phone charger so it has a maximum of 5V at 1amp. I do not know what power source the Duracell Powermat uses (looked a little but didn't search long) so if it were to use a higher voltage at the same amps or higher amps at the same voltage then it may charger your phone faster.
NOTE: It should also be noted that if you use a different charging source with the touchstone base you could end up generating a different level of voltage and in turn damage your phone. It's not recommended to do this. The downfall (that I have found) with the touchstone setup is that it WILL charge through thin TPU cases and my Rock Quicksand case BUT the magnet is not strong enough to hold the phone in place. Since the touchstone is angled and not flat the phone starts to slide down and charging stops.
You can always switch out the magnets so your phone sits better on the touchstone. Its easy to change and it can make a nice diference.
Just ordered one. Touchstone rules.
@setzer715
that's an interesting read. thanks for clarifying the differences. I skimmed on articles about different wireless charging tech and remembered a few mentions of frequencies.
If only there is a standard that can adapt or provide compatibility with other methods... but that would probably drive up costs and probably extend r&d time.
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@setzer715
that's an interesting read. thanks for clarifying the differences. I skimmed on articles about different wireless charging tech and remembered a few mentions of frequencies.
If only there is a standard that can adapt or provide compatibility with other methods... but that would probably drive up costs and probably extend r&d time.
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may be in the future a multi format will be available.:fingers-crossed:
Hello.
I'm using the same charger with my i9300. But it charging the phone too long
Also I have removed a wireless charging module from a custom back cover and install it on my original i9300 back cover.
Hi I am planning on purchasing the Palm TouchStone wireless charging kit for my S3 i747m from eBay
http://www.ebay.ca/itm/281051460427...eName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1439.l2649
Does anyone who have the mod or an eBay kit tell me if the magnet attachment is on the TouchStone charger or is it on the Phone battery cover or both?
Also, how fast does it charge with the TouchStone?
Does it overheat after charging for a long time?
Does the TouchStone charger "turn off" or switch to "tinkle charging" after the phone is fully charged?
Any answers to my question would be highly appreciated.
Thanks in advance.
Anyone can help?
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Anyone can help?
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I would look for a touchstone forum or review site for answers, not here, bro. There is an accessories thread you could possibly get an answer in.
I had seen a YouTube video where someone did this to their s3! Check there!
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I see, I will take a gamble and buy it... rated at ~500mAh with coil and charger directly aligned.
With my Otterbox Commuter case, I think the charging should not be affected too much (my guess is around 480mAh-490mAh)
This is because the Touchstone, like the Qi, is using EMR for coil and charger transmission/receiving. The only different is that Qi and Touchstone operate at different frequencies and the coil designs might be slightly different to have either slightly better range or better efficiency.
From my experience with Wacom tablets (Intuos, Bamboo) and Wacom integrated tablets (Galaxy Note 10.1, Note 1/2, Tablet PCs, Cintiqs etc)
The pen can hover even with an overlay sheet or a pane of glass over it.. The hovering range is around 5-7mm depending on how thick the surface cover is.
Hopefully the charger has a built in tinkle charging mode and a auto shut off mode (the phone power management should have this)
Also hopefully it does not overheat the phone when it is charging through my Otterbox Commuter case.
Im not sure if there's been a new development on this or not but I didnt get find anything.
These Qi Receivers like:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-Qi-Wire...S_Cell_Phone_PDA_Chargers&hash=item4ac6c3197e
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Qi-Wireless...S_Cell_Phone_PDA_Chargers&hash=item1c3375487b
The qi wireless charging mod seems a little too complicated. Now that we have these receivers has anyone tried fitting one to the S2?
I know they arent made for it and there are special connect points in teh S3 S4 and the such but cant an end be splayed open and put in between the 1st and 4th connectors where the battery makes contact with the phone? It would be a little difficult to force fit it but it would be snug and not likely to move and fits over the battery well. Has anyone tried any of this?
Rico
Qi Wireless Charging
Hi, I just bought a Qi Wireless charger & Charging Cover and its pretty cool! I bought it from the Bitmore UK site.
They have a wide range of Qi (wireless charging) Devices and the one I bought for my S3 is universal. You can charge any qi enabled devices on this pad.
Just search for: BITMORE Qi Charger
Hey guys, Is there a Wireless Charger for Galaxy Tab S 8.4 or the 10.1 model? I tried searching but I keep seeing Qi Wireless Charger supporting most of other android device except Galaxy Tab S. Please do let me know ( link) if you found a wireless charger for your Galaxy Tab S. :fingers-crossed:
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Hey guys, Is there a Wireless Charger for Galaxy Tab S 8.4 or the 10.1 model? I tried searching but I keep seeing Qi Wireless Charger supporting most of other android device except Galaxy Tab S. Please do let me know ( link) if you found a wireless charger for your Galaxy Tab S. :fingers-crossed:
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The Galaxy tab does not support Qi charging built in. To only way to support wireless charging would be to add a universal micro USB Qi receiver such as the one in the link below. However based on the size of the tablet, not sure if this would even work well due to the position of where the receiver would sit in comparison to the charger. Personally, don't think it's worth it on this tablet.
http://www.amazon.com/Universal-Wireless-Charging-Micro-USB-narrow-interface/dp/B00JQ4YWVE/ref=sr_1_12?ie=UTF8&qid=1420055644&sr=8-12&keywords=usb+qi+receiver
There is a reason, which is to reduce the wear and the chance of breaking the usb port. 2 different phones I was able to keep using for a year after the usb port broke because I had hacked in the receiver from the Palm Pre. There was no way (for me, without more exotic equipment than a fine tip soldering pen) to re-solder the usb port. Too much stuff crowded around it and it was surface mount. But I could get 2 wires on to the ground and +5v easy.
Warranty isn't an option unless you never rooted, so that leaves having to be very careful never to break this weak point for the next 5 years.
Myself, I can't see sticking that thing on mine either, I'm just saying that there are reasons one might want to and it's not automatically ridiculous or pointless.
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There is a reason, which is to reduce the wear and the chance of breaking the usb port. 2 different phones I was able to keep using for a year after the usb port broke because I had hacked in the receiver from the Palm Pre. There was no way (for me, without more exotic equipment than a fine tip soldering pen) to re-solder the usb port. Too much stuff crowded around it and it was surface mount. But I could get 2 wires on to the ground and +5v easy.
Warranty isn't an option unless you never rooted, so that leaves having to be very careful never to break this weak point for the next 5 years.
Myself, I can't see sticking that thing on mine either, I'm just saying that there are reasons one might want to and it's not automatically ridiculous or pointless.
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Don't get me wrong, I love wireless charging and have been using it for a couple of years now on my phones. I also thought about it for my LG G Pad 8.3 tablet. However don't think its a good option for the 10.5. Reason is as I mentioned, positioning. Most chargers are small. Positioning the tab on it may prove to be challenging due to sign. I think it would end up leaning off to one side and not being able to get in a good position. Thus would be frustrating. I think the 8.4 would stand a better chance but not the 10.5. Just my opinion anyway.
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You could probably just put the charger on the tablet in that case. It's also perfectly possible to make your own tray that has the charger embedded in it.
For devices too large for the charger. Cut a piece of cork(same thickness of the charger) to the size of the largest device that needs charging. Cut out a hole to imbed the charger into the cork. Cut out a hole in the end of the cork for the charger power cord. The end result is the charger and the cork will provide a nice flush surface to charge any size tablet.
An easier way to charge tablets is to lay the tablet face down and set the charger upside down on the bottom of the tablet.
QI is designed for phone
Guys,
Ive been charging my tab (had a couple.. current one is Samsung Tab A) for years.
I simply buy a charging receiver with a USB connection. Plug it in, tape it onto the back and away you go...BUT...
USB charging receivers are designed for phones. 2000, 3000mah batteries so a charging input of 1000mah is ok. The tab battery is 6000 so a 1000 charger is Slooow
Most USB (wall) chargers are 1000mah and/or 2500mah.
wish someone would make a 2500 qi qharging receiver.... then life would be much better.
Even thought of updating my tab so I have faster CPU and USb type C connection... problem is QI for USB-C is also only 1000mah... WHY???
Faster charging would be much better
GRI2A