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I saw this in slickdeals.net and wanted to know if this was a good deal from those who own one. Maybe a first hand experience. The cameras and specs are what's attracting me. There's some discrepancy whether its new or refurbished. Thanks.
http://item.mobileweb.ebay.com/viewitem?itemId=220986061457&cmd=VIDESC
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I paid $189 for mine on black Friday, and while it's definitly not the best tablet out there, for that price it's not so bad. I'd pick it over a Nook Color or a Kindle Fire becasue you get a morefully funtional tablet.
Main weaknesses are batterly life and just a rather low quality screen. The only only thing I might consider is that Asus is coming out with a $250 tablet sometime this year that should meet and probably beat the specs of of the A100. Unless they just really cut some corners, it'll probably be worth the extra $60. But if you want a tablet today for $200 and can get an A100 for that, I'd say for for it. You probaly won't get anything better for that price.
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I saw this in slickdeals.net and wanted to know if this was a good deal from those who own one. Maybe a first hand experience. The cameras and specs are what's attracting me. There's some discrepancy whether its new or refurbished. Thanks.
http://item.mobileweb.ebay.com/viewitem?itemId=220986061457&cmd=VIDESC
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Yes, that is a great deal.
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I paid $189 for mine on black Friday, and while it's definitly not the best tablet out there, for that price it's not so bad. I'd pick it over a Nook Color or a Kindle Fire becasue you get a morefully funtional tablet.
Main weaknesses are batterly life and just a rather low quality screen. The only only thing I might consider is that Asus is coming out with a $250 tablet sometime this year that should meet and probably beat the specs of of the A100. Unless they just really cut some corners, it'll probably be worth the extra $60. But if you want a tablet today for $200 and can get an A100 for that, I'd say for for it. You probaly won't get anything better for that price.
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Anyone would pick it over a nook color, and it seems better than the kindle fire (It is in my opinion). Also, that tablet which you are talking about - The Asus Memo - has probably been "canceled" (It may still come, but stripped down of the most attractive features in previous rumors.There are various places discussing this).
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I saw this in slickdeals.net and wanted to know if this was a good deal from those who own one. Maybe a first hand experience. The cameras and specs are what's attracting me. There's some discrepancy whether its new or refurbished. Thanks.
http://item.mobileweb.ebay.com/viewitem?itemId=220986061457&cmd=VIDESC
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Its not a bad deal but it is a refurb. Just make sure Acer will still provide you the 1 year warranty for it. It says refurbished by manufacturer OR manufacturer approved vendor so check also with the seller who refurbed it if it makes a difference to you. Or you can always try craigslist but you'll probably get used ones only but they wont be refurbs however warranty will not be a full year on them anymore.
I've already gotten a Nook Color and put CM7 on it. While its great and stuff, I just feel like it's not a fully functional tablet like when it comes to videos and even gaming. Ah damn decisions, decisions!
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If rumors are to be believed, the Asus MeMo has been cancelled in favor of whatever Google Nexus tablet is being prepared.
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I've already gotten a Nook Color and put CM7 on it. While its great and stuff, I just feel like it's not a fully functional tablet like when it comes to videos and even gaming. Ah damn decisions, decisions!
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That was quick lol. My coworker has a nook tablet with cm7 also and I wasnt overly impressed with it. It was kinda choppy. Browsing wasn't great on it either. I told him to exchange it for an a100 but he never did. It was for his gf so I guess as long as she was happy with it he didn't care too much lol.
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If rumors are to be believed, the Asus MeMo has been cancelled in favor of whatever Google Nexus tablet is being prepared.
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Rumors are strongly indicating that the Asus MeMo has been cancelled and is going to be the basis for the sub-$200 Google Nexus tablet, but the most attractive feature -the Tegra 3 processor - will be removed in favor of a Snapdragon dual core.
If true that is a total bummer, I was planning on getting one but now think I'll just stick with the A100 until the next generation comes out, probably Q3 or Q4.
For under $200 I think the A100 is still probably the best 7" fully functional dual core tablet out there (w/ GPS, microSD slot, full HC / soon-to-be stock ICS system, etc); most comparable tabs are still over $300 at this point. It blows the Kindle Fire away for sure (we have two of those for wife and kid, there is no comparison).
I've had a Nook Color for a while now.. went from CM7 to CM9, and it is nice. But, it lacks the "horsepower" that the A100 has, without breaking the bank.
I got my A100 today. Paid about $180 after shipping after seeing it on Woot. I have a feeling my NC will become very lonely... so, a gift for the girlfriend!
Pretty good deal from what I can tell. It is a Refurb but still a great price. I grabbed one. Did anyone notice that this is for the VanGogh edition?
Other than 1GB instead of 512MB Ram is there any other differences?
Will this affect any of the Development (unlock, custom recovery, Rom's, ETC) that are in this forum?
In other words I would hate to flash something that was developed for the "standard" device and have it "brick" my VanGogh unit. If anyone can offer details I would appreciate it.
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Pretty good deal from what I can tell. It is a Refurb but still a great price. I grabbed one. Did anyone notice that this is for the VanGogh edition?
Other than 1GB instead of 512MB Ram is there any other differences?
Will this affect any of the Development (unlock, custom recovery, Rom's, ETC) that are in this forum?
In other words I would hate to flash something that was developed for the "standard" device and have it "brick" my VanGogh unit. If anyone can offer details I would appreciate it.
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What's the VanGogh edition? I'm having mixed thoughts this morning after purchasing last night. Please tell me its special or something!
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How would you guys compare the a100 to a 16 gb HP touchpad running CM 9? Let's say one could find them for around the same price.
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What's the VanGogh edition? I'm having mixed thoughts this morning after purchasing last night. Please tell me its special or something!
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It's special . I have the "vangogh" edition but there's no real difference from what you can tell. NB.: It is the GEN2 version (GEN1 roms still work though). Even though it didn't recieve the 3.2.1 update, I haven't noticed the issues mentioned by users of the GEN1 while running 3.2 (which the GEN2 also comes with).
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How would you guys compare the a100 to a 16 gb HP touchpad running CM 9? Let's say one could find them for around the same price.
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I would go for the Acer a100 since it is natively android and will have support for more apps (especially when running the modified build.prop). It's size provides more comfort for doing many things (also more portable) plus it's camera is much better than that of the touchpad.
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IMO the size difference will make the biggest difference. The touchpad is very heavy and is a 10 inch tablet. You will never take it anywhere with you. After you put a case on it itll feel like you're carrying a laptop. My brother has one and he only uses it at home but from what he tells me it is pretty smooth with cm9. I've only gotten to play around with it for a few minutes but not with cm9. But wow it is heavy.
In comparison I have a transformer prime. Even though it is much faster and thinner its still a 10 inch tablet and its not easy to carry around with me. I mainly use it at home or work but I never take it with me anywhere else. The a100 however I can easily put in my pocket or give it to my gf to put in her purse for me. So a lot of times thats what I take with me. So you may need to consider what you want to use it for since you're really not gonna se a huge major difference in software (unless you get a prime). Portability might be the key for you.
A100 does or will have ICS natively in the future?
I've seen some youtube vids of the A100 running ICS fairly smoothly.
So performance wise, an overclocked/stock clock Touchpad running ICS should be equal to an A100 running ICS?
720p/1080p video, same thing?
Which one is easier to type short emails on? I'm guessing the touchpad's larger interface, multitouch would be better suited for it?
How is battery life during use and sleep?
Good deal. I've got a fire but honestly I would buy this over a fire for that price.
Just got one for my wife and thinking about getting one for myself now since I played around with it. Nice size and weight. Use to have the a500 but didn't like the weight of it. 7" is a perfect size for me. If what everybody is saying us true about the Asus 7" tab then I will more likely get the a100..
If you wanting to type on any tablet take a look at thumb keyboard. It splits the keyboard apart making it easier to type with your thumbs. No stretching across the screen to get at letters.
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So, had the One X since release date, always had HTC before this. But after having all the issues that have been described here on xda, I spoke to my network (3 uk) and they have said that so long as its within 28 days of the 4/4/12 that they will either replace it for a new one or any other model that they stock.
Now, I'm a flashaholic. I do not want to use the HTC unlock method, always relied on the very clever peeps here for "alternative" ways of s-off. But as it seems the biggest team of Revolutionary aren't working on the One X. I'm considering leaving the HTC brand and moving to the Galaxy Note?
Have any of you guys left the note to come here? It looks the part on paper at least?
Anyone else from 3 UK willing to take the plunge if the offer was sat there?
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I think you shouldn't switch to the Note...
Sooner or later there will be a S-OFF tool.
The NOte is IMO too big, but that's your decision. The other reasons why I dodn't get the note:
- DPI is not as high
- the PenTile thing, this means the display has 33% red and blue subpixels. some people don't notice, but I do: there's not a single straight line. it appears as if every other row of pixels was shifted by 0.5 pixels; I just can't stand it.
I highly recommend you to check if that's a problem for you before getting it. Just saying
P.S: Even though the One X isn't perfect, it's the phone the closest to perfect I ever had.
Iff i waz you id go for Gnexus over note the note is ridiculously big my sister has it as a work phone
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see the thing is i am on Three UK as well. and i had the choice for my two replacements i had so far to go for a different handset. and both times i got close going for the gnexus. now all this hype about quadcore for me i am sorry i really did not notice it so far with the HTC one x...yeah apps load faster than ever but 50% of the apps stuck in loading phase...anyways still a great phone i say and i am more than likely to stick with it because i am really liking stock Sense now
but i do miss overclocking and undervolting and also using an AOKP rom...tough decisions to make one thing i do hate about this phone is though why HTC locked the bootloader..why not just unlock it..
Note no way man stay clear of that huge thing..no no no
Hmmmm? Thanks for the replies folks. As for the size issue (that's what she said!) Im not thay concerned, saying that I've never held one! But I currently have a Advent Vega, that if the Note could replace might be a good thing? Kinda streamline my tech, save me carrying 2 devices?
But aswell as a flashaholic, I'm a sucker for POWER! 1.5ghz quad core vs 1.4ghz dual core? I feel in a real dilemma, I love HTC, always have, but the ONE X has, so far, let me down.
@Dobbi, I will look into the red/blue pixel issue, I have now been spoilt by the quality of the one x screen! It is nice.
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Hmmmm? Thanks for the replies folks. As for the size issue (that's what she said!) Im not thay concerned, saying that I've never held one! But I currently have a Advent Vega, that if the Note could replace might be a good thing? Kinda streamline my tech, save me carrying 2 devices?
But aswell as a flashaholic, I'm a sucker for POWER! 1.5ghz quad core vs 1.4ghz dual core? I feel in a real dilemma, I love HTC, always have, but the ONE X has, so far, let me down.
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all honesty mate...it is like cameras..more megapixels does not mean you are going to get better picture. same with the quadcores..so far i would say and yes i know i might get flamed for this my s2 dual core felt bit more snappier at times compare to the one x. so if you are really a flashaholic then maybe the phone to go for is the gnexus...the development for that phone is crazy...but at this moment of time i still will go as to say i will stick with the one x..this must be the longest time i gone without flashing
In all honesty too........my Sensation felt better than my One X.
Please don't go mad at me people. I not a massive sense fan, so that was always the first thing that went once s-off was achieved and all the roms about seem to be sense based or desensed. Not AOSP. I respect all our Devs massively and I am not clever enough or do I have time enough to even begin to learn how to build roms from the ground up using AOSP. But even the sensation was lacking in these roms.
Oh man. I may have to have a long hard think about if I'm ready to leave HTC.
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Note is excellent don't let anyone put you off it, I've played with it many times and the size is a sweet spot. I've had the S2 before the HOX and don't find the HOX that much of a jump in size. It's nice the 4.7" but the 5.3" of the note gives you some more real estate.
You get use to the size after a while.
I'm holding ship with the HOX for the time being the only phone that can sway me away will be the SGS3 only if it excels the HOX but for me it'll be down to the software side and not hardware. Sense > TouchWiz.
I'm in a similar situation only that I've not ordered my HOX yet and I'm coming from a Galaxy Nexus. My biggest issue is to be frank all the problems you guys seem to be having with the htc , i dont care what people say you should NOT be having these sort of issues with a final retail handset. I jumped to samsung with the galaxy s2 after years of htc handset (android & wm) and looking back I'm glad I did. How can anyone defend this locked bootloader policy? seems like the days of simply plugging the phone in and flashing straight from the box are gone for htc which brings me onto samsung.... everything is geared towards flashing there phones, hell Ive even got a £2 clip which unbricks your samsung should anything go wrong With all that said I always a space in my heart for htc just a shame this whole mess may have put me off this time round.
Come next week when I can upgrade I'm 90% sure I'll order the samsung note partly for the reasons above and partly because it is such a sweet device despite the PenTile display which is not noticeable, trust me
oh and dont go for the gnexus if you use any games what so ever the gpu is crap and the main reason I switching (missing my psx gaming fun)
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I'm in a similar situation only that I've not ordered my HOX yet and I'm coming from a Galaxy Nexus. My biggest issue is to be frank all the problems you guys seem to be having with the htc , i dont care what people say you should NOT be having these sort of issues with a final retail handset. I jumped to samsung with the galaxy s2 after years of htc handset (android & wm) and looking back I'm glad I did. How can anyone defend this locked bootloader policy? seems like the days of simply plugging the phone in and flashing straight from the box are gone for htc which brings me onto samsung.... everything is geared towards flashing there phones, hell Ive even got a £2 clip which unbricks your samsung should anything go wrong With all that said I always a space in my heart for htc just a shame this whole mess may have put me off this time round.
Come next week when I can upgrade I'm 90% sure I'll order the samsung note partly for the reasons above and partly because it is such a sweet device despite the PenTile display which is not noticeable, trust me
oh and dont go for the gnexus if you use any games what so ever the gpu is crap and the main reason I switching (missing my psx gaming fun)
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so you saying the nexus is not worth swapping this one for then?
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so you saying the nexus is not worth swapping this one for then?
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No way mate ..... dont get me wrong the nexus is very nice and there's more custom roms than you can shake a stick at but the camera is well.... **** and the gpu is shameful I found games really struggle to the point i dont bother now as much pity really .........
I game on my gnex and it doesnt lag??? And the camera is decent aswell especialy video www.youtube.com/watch?v=ePfy25sS0Yo&feature=player_embedded
And at the min gaming on the ox isnt awesome YET just see the genral section thread created already
Best thing to do is go to a shop and test the devices and decide.
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well i am sticking with my htc one x for now...the more i hold it the more i am falling in love with it....it was the same when i had my galaxy s2..was scared to root it in the start but once it was done i could not stop flashing..same with the HOX. once i get my grey replacement that would be it for me...hate it or love it this phone does grow on you and no matter what flaws i still would recommend it
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I game on my gnex and it doesnt lag??? And the camera is decent aswell especialy video www.youtube.com/watch?v=ePfy25sS0Yo&feature=player_embedded
And at the min gaming on the ox isnt awesome YET just see the genral section thread created already
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What about GTA for starters? Id say anything thats abit better than the norm and your screwed :/
Right. I'm going to go into the 3 store to play with a galaxy note, along side my One X and compare them in real life usage tomorrow.
Real life usage, not stats on paper, not benchmarks, just what feels best. C'mon HTC don't fail me after 4 years of brand dedication.
Report back tomorrow peeps.
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Let me know how that goes. If my One X replacement still has issues I might swap for a Note too.
I've used both nexus and note. Of the two the note is far better. After a day, the size is no issue. Plus the screen looks great, battery from what I've seen is good, but there is noticeable scrolling lag when compared to the one x.
That being said, the slight lag is not bad enough to deter someone. My dad loves his note
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Galaxy note or Gnexus..
x5starguerillaa said:
Right. I'm going to go into the 3 store to play with a galaxy note, along side my One X and compare them in real life usage tomorrow.
Real life usage, not stats on paper, not benchmarks, just what feels best. C'mon HTC don't fail me after 4 years of brand dedication.
Report back tomorrow peeps.
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Isn't the Note still running Gingerbread. So performance might not be as smooth as iCS.
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HTC One X Owners and potential buyers!
Would you buy it / buy it again if you had a choise?
Or you better give a chanse to Samsung/Sony/Nexus/LG/Motorolla?
Or just stay on your old device and wait untill something new arrives?
Definitely buy it again. Right now, it is still king of the market. NO ONE BEATS ITS SCREEN. and since screen is the number one biggest thing we interact and use everytime we use the phone, it is THE MOST IMPORTANT PART LOOOL.
In a whole package and a custom rom, the one x trumps any conpetitor out there as it has the best hardware foundation. GO DEVS GO
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Hard to say... I might look for a similar device with a bigger/removable battery, external SD and USB-OTG support. If a device like that didn't exist, I might still buy it.
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Hard to say... I might look for a similar device with a bigger/removable battery, external SD and USB-OTG support. If a device like that didn't exist, I might still buy it.
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About battery: Read this (but we have now with the new base about 6h screen time and its still not officially released...i am not sure that i will use my phone 6h of the 17h i am awake every day)
About external SD: Its a smartphone not a PC, with the 28 GB (user available) i am really satisfied.
About USB-OTG: I am sure we will get it soon
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Hard to say... I might look for a similar device with a bigger/removable battery, external SD and USB-OTG support. If a device like that didn't exist, I might still buy it.
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I agree.
I would buy it again because I love the feel and look of the phone,
but an external SD would be nice
all honesty no i would not buy it again... i would go for the galaxy s3 just for the pure reason that the development for that phone is much bigger than the One X. but even though i would not go for another HTC phone i really do love my current one now even after all the issues my phone had
I definitely would. I always felt that Android 2.x was just not as polished feeling as iOS and I didn't enjoy it very much, but ICS finally closed the gap IMO. After that I was just waiting for some nice hardware to come out - high pixel density screen with nice colours (which pretty much barred anything AMOLED, since I've hardly ever seen one that wasn't blue tinged, which really bothers me), nice physical design, and powerful enough hardware to do everything smoothly. The One X is just about the first phone to meet all my requirements. The GNex was quite close as well though, being one of the few AMOLED devices I've seen whose screen I didn't mind, but at the time that the GNex came out I was not ready to move to a new phone yet.
In short, I love my One X. Nice upgrade from an iPhone 4. There's not too much I miss about the iPhone, and plenty of things I love about my HOX that the iPhone just did not have.
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I definitely would. I always felt that Android 2.x was just not as polished feeling as iOS and I didn't enjoy it very much, but ICS finally closed the gap IMO. After that I was just waiting for some nice hardware to come out - high pixel density screen with nice colours (which pretty much barred anything AMOLED, since I've hardly ever seen one that wasn't blue tinged, which really bothers me), nice physical design, and powerful enough hardware to do everything smoothly. The One X is just about the first phone to meet all my requirements. The GNex was quite close as well though, being one of the few AMOLED devices I've seen whose screen I didn't mind, but at the time that the GNex came out I was not ready to move to a new phone yet.
In short, I love my One X. Nice upgrade from an iPhone 4. There's not too much I miss about the iPhone, and plenty of things I love about my HOX that the iPhone just did not have.
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How about the apps and games that were on the iPhone 4?
I've also had an iPhone for about a week, and I have an iPod Touch, I love Android, but I'll be completely honest, the Android applications and games can't get nowhere near the level of the iPhone ones, not sure why but every iPhone app and probably game out there is beautiful, it's polished, some of the Android ones are too, but it's being held back by most of the ugly ones.
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all honesty no i would not buy it again... i would go for the galaxy s3 just for the pure reason that the development for that phone is much bigger than the One X. but even though i would not go for another HTC phone i really do love my current one now even after all the issues my phone had
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you can only flash so mch, and after a while, that pentile ll get to you. trust me, had the gnex, and look at rhe development it has...lol. i do miss the gnex more than i want the s3
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all honesty no i would not buy it again... i would go for the galaxy s3 just for the pure reason that the development for that phone is much bigger than the One X. but even though i would not go for another HTC phone i really do love my current one now even after all the issues my phone had
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Im scrollin throught the s3 forum and dont get it development? What you mean?
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Im scrollin throught the s3 forum and dont get it development? What you mean?
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I think he's saying that you can flash everything to your hearts content but nothing the developers over at SIII will release will make you have the same screen the One X has, and this is the truth, doesn't matter if 1,000,000 developers group up to develop a ROM, the screen will stay the same .
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How about the apps and games that were on the iPhone 4?
I've also had an iPhone for about a week, and I have an iPod Touch, I love Android, but I'll be completely honest, the Android applications and games can't get nowhere near the level of the iPhone ones, not sure why but every iPhone app and probably game out there is beautiful, it's polished, some of the Android ones are too, but it's being held back by most of the ugly ones.
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There are only two games that I miss from iOS. Rhythmatic, and Strategery. There are a few other apps I couldn't find Android equivalents to but they were apps I hardly ever used anyway. Anyway, I still have my iPhone around, so I can use it as my mobile gaming device/iPod and use my HOX for texting/calls and Facebook/Twitter/etc. (iPhone could do it as well I guess, but I only have one SIM card, which is obviously in the HOX).
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There are only two games that I miss from iOS. Rhythmatic, and Strategery. There are a few other apps I couldn't find Android equivalents to but they were apps I hardly ever used anyway. Anyway, I still have my iPhone around, so I can use it as my mobile gaming device/iPod and use my HOX for texting/calls and Facebook/Twitter/etc. (iPhone could do it as well I guess, but I only have one SIM card, which is obviously in the HOX).
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and infinity blade ~
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I usually don't play 3D games on my phones, never really got into the on-screen touch controls, I just hate how my favorite game Drop 7 looks DISGUSTING on the huge screen of the One X, if I could only normally play this game everything would be perfect.
I played it a few times. It was graphically quite impressive for a phone, but I didn't really get into the gameplay.
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I played it a few times. It was graphically quite impressive for a phone, but I didn't really get into the gameplay.
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lol, kill, buy weapons, kill, buy armor, kill, be killed, upgrade！ looooool
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The HOX was my second choice device, my first choice being the HOXL (the 32GB intl version) but as for as I can tell it hasn't been released yet ans I am pretty happy with the HOX especially since the 2.05 rom base which is much smoother and responsive than the 1.2x base
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The HOX was my second choice device, my first choice being the HOXL (the 32GB intl version) but as for as I can tell it hasn't been released yet ans I am pretty happy with the HOX especially since the 2.05 rom base which is much smoother and responsive than the 1.2x base
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if the one xl int actually happened, i would jump ship and board that one
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Im scrollin throught the s3 forum and dont get it development? What you mean?
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I mean as in regards the many roms on offer on there side. Some of the best roms out for the s2 are being done for the s3 now. And would of loved to try them out. Were here we not having much variations.
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I mean as in regards the many roms on offer on there side. Some of the best roms out for the s2 are being done for the s3 now. And would of loved to try them out. Were here we not having much variations.
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uh...we have sense , senseless, aosp, miui, half sense half not, s3 touchwiz on cm9. do they have half of these？
not to mention we have franco and faux, two of the best kernel devs ever
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Hey guys, so I'm going Tablet hunting and have come down with 2 leading candidates, the Pipo M7 Pro, a Chinese Tablet. or the Nexus 7 (2013).
The only thing that worries me is the development. As a Flashaholic I'd like a tablet with decent dev support, and I haven't seen any dev support for the Pipo M7 Pro.
Now, the Nexus 7 Multi touch and GPS/random reboot issues have me here at bay, making the debate a bit more intense.
I'll probably use my tablet for reading, school related work or gaming/listening to music (rarely though, I'll probably have my Galaxy Nexus for that which works fine really(or a Nexus 5 by the time it comes out ))
Any recommendations/Opinions/Point of views will be appreciated.
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Nexus 7, most of not all the "issues"with it are a very vocal minority, overflowing a small problem, of it were half as big an issue as they try to make ir to bbr, ir would be all the blogs
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Small, yes.
Vocal, yes.
Very real, though. And, to some degree, acknowledged by the powers that be at Google...
The people posting, including myself, have been through 2-3 of more N7 2013s.
It's the luck of the draw. It may only effect a few percent, but over the multi thousands sold, it's a percentage that needs to be taken seriously.
If you purchase one, be sure that it's from a seller offering a good return/exchange policy.
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Nexus 7, most of not all the "issues"with it are a very vocal minority, overflowing a small problem, of it were half as big an issue as they try to make ir to bbr, ir would be all the blogs
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Mostly every blog I've read mentions it. But I guess I'm just on that "unlucky and unconventional" part of the internet.
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Been thru quite a few "shows" ... the TF101, the 2012 Nexus 7 & now the 2013 Nexus 7...
I still don't hesitate a bit to buy one. Heck, I even wish there is a refurbished sales right now.
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Small, yes.
Vocal, yes.
Very real, though. And, to some degree, acknowledged by the powers that be at Google...
The people posting, including myself, have been through 2-3 of more N7 2013s.
It's the luck of the draw. It may only effect a few percent, but over the multi thousands sold, it's a percentage that needs to be taken seriously.
If you purchase one, be sure that it's from a seller offering a good return/exchange policy.
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So it is a hardware issue? And not software related?
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Your guess is as good as theirs right now....
Chinese stuff is just not up to par as brand name stuff yet. Their specs look great, benchmarks are great, but in reality they are far far apart when you use both side by side.
I have a Ifive X2 with a RK3188 and it lags like hell, battery is good, screen is nice, but real world performance is just awful. Since I got my Note 8 from repair, I dont use the X2 at all anymore.
For the small price difference it just makes no sense to consider Chinese stuff vs a Nexus 7.
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Chinese stuff is just not up to par as brand name stuff yet.
I have a Ifive X2 with a RK3188 and it lags like hell, battery is good, screen is nice, but real world performance is just awful.
For the small price difference it just makes no sense to consider Chinese stuff vs a Nexus 7.
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This Pipo M7 Pro isn't a fastest tablet in the world and after a bit of customizations is in real world usable. The screen is impressive, good battery, very good Wi-Fi and the firmware is stable. I don't regret my (old ) Nexus 7
M7 is great for browsing internet, reading books and multimedia but not too suited for video games.
I am satisfied but not enthusiastic.
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This Pipo M7 Pro isn't a fastest tablet in the world and after a bit of customizations is in real world usable. The screen is impressive, good battery, very good Wi-Fi and the firmware is stable. I don't regret my (old ) Nexus 7
M7 is great for browsing internet, reading books and multimedia but not too suited for video games.
I am satisfied but not enthusiastic.
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Thank you for your opinion.
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Chinese stuff is just not up to par as brand name stuff yet. Their specs look great, benchmarks are great, but in reality they are far far apart when you use both side by side.
I have a Ifive X2 with a RK3188 and it lags like hell, battery is good, screen is nice, but real world performance is just awful. Since I got my Note 8 from repair, I dont use the X2 at all anymore.
For the small price difference it just makes no sense to consider Chinese stuff vs a Nexus 7.
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Pipo is a pretty good Chinese company, we're not just talking about those ripoff chinese companies you find on Ebay, and I have used Rockchip based devices and can vouch for them, they're not as bad as you say.
So your "no sense to consider Chinese stuff vs a Nexus 7" is kind of stereotypical and not really reliable
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Thank you for your opinion.
Pipo is a pretty good Chinese company, we're not just talking about those ripoff chinese companies you find on Ebay, and I have used Rockchip based devices and can vouch for them, they're not as bad as you say.
So your "no sense to consider Chinese stuff vs a Nexus 7" is kind of stereotypical and not really reliable
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First,
I agree with the above line in bold.
Second,
If you aren't in a hurry to buy a tablet, I'd wait to see what the TegraTab and the LG G Pad 8.3 end up being like. That's what I'm going to do when I return/exchange my N7 flo for the 3rd time. I'm on my 2nd one now, so hopefully the 3rd try will be the the charm! I expect both those options to be more expensive, but if either of them is within 100 of the 32gb N7 flo (as long as it's 32gb or 16gb with a microsd), then I'll probably give it a shot.
Third,
If you absolutely want a tablet right now, I can't recommend the N7 in good conscience. Having had two with the same exact issue(multitouch), I would say the odds are pretty good that you'd get one with the same issue. That said, if the N7 is what you like and you don't mind potentially returning/exchanging it, get one. Just be sure to buy from somewhere with a good return/exchange program. I've had pretty good luck with Best Buy so far, as well as Amazon. I'd choose Best Buy if there's one near you for ease of returning/exchanging, i.e. no wait time.
Good Luck!
Jimlarck said:
Thank you for your opinion.
Pipo is a pretty good Chinese company, we're not just talking about those ripoff chinese companies you find on Ebay, and I have used Rockchip based devices and can vouch for them, they're not as bad as you say.
So your "no sense to consider Chinese stuff vs a Nexus 7" is kind of stereotypical and not really reliable
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I have one of the latest and greatest Chinese tabs as I write in my post.
Yes they are better then what they used to be but they still lack in some aspects. These tabs using the RK3188 chip in real life are just not want the benchmarks want you to believe. The Chinese keep cutting corners where they shouldn't and it shows. So yeah it looks like you get a lot for 200$ but when you use it you understand why its cheaper.
It's no surprise that all the high end Chinese tabs and phones end up using Qualcomm and Samsung CPUs and cost almost the same as brand name stuff.
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I have one of the latest and greatest Chinese tabs as I write in my post.
Yes they are better then what they used to be but they still lack in some aspects. These tabs using the RK3188 chip in real life are just not want the benchmarks want you to believe. The Chinese keep cutting corners where they shouldn't and it shows. So yeah it looks like you get a lot for 200$ but when you use it you understand why its cheaper.
It's no surprise that all the high end Chinese tabs and phones end up using Qualcomm and Samsung CPUs and cost almost the same as brand name stuff.
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Since when are benchmarks actually safe, legitimate and trustworthy?
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Since when are benchmarks actually safe, legitimate and trustworthy?
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They are not, but fans of Chinese stuff like to go crazy about them and use them to compare with brand name products. If I see two products with similar scores I would expect similar function but clearly it's not the case.
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I had Asus Infinity TF700T before, but I was very disappointed about the build quality and the lagging of the device. I hated that tab every moment. I didn't install custom rom because it required unlocking the device and loosing the warranty. So I sold it and bought Pipo M7pro.
I like the screen and size of the tablet and this is much faster and smoother than Asus TF700. Also the build quality is better than on Asus, which had loose screen even repaired three times for warranty.
Multi window feature is pretty cool! Check the video from youtube.
I'm really satisfied of this cheap Chinese tab!
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So after reading some of your messages and doing some more research on my own. I've decided to wait until October, if the Nexus 7 multitouch problems have been resolved (they're addressing the problem at their warehouses/manufacturers or fixed it on an update) I'll buy it, if not, then Pipo M7 Pro will have to be my choice.
Really like the N7 but what use is there buying it when chances are that I'll get a broken Tablet, no, I can wait, I trust Google that they'll resolve this soon, it isn't the first time they've encountered a problem with manufacturers, like the N4 for example, with the infamous exploding back(I did think it was spontaneous and comical so I did have a laugh about it, hopefully the owners got a replacement though)
Thank you all for your messages and opinions. Especially those who gave their completely unbiased opinion and thoughts.
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So after reading some of your messages and doing some more research on my own. I've decided to wait until October, if the Nexus 7 multitouch problems have been resolved (they're addressing the problem at their warehouses/manufacturers or fixed it on an update) I'll buy it, if not, then Pipo M7 Pro will have to be my choice.
Really like the N7 but what use is there buying it when chances are that I'll get a broken Tablet, no, I can wait, I trust Google that they'll resolve this soon, it isn't the first time they've encountered a problem with manufacturers, like the N4 for example, with the infamous exploding back(I did think it was spontaneous and comical so I did have a laugh about it, hopefully the owners got a replacement though)
Thank you all for your messages and opinions. Especially those who gave their completely unbiased opinion and thoughts.
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I think the Chinese phones and tablets may have some issues but then again so do other phones. In my opinion it is best to wait for a very comprehensive review before you buy. And only buy from a near-by supplier that is willing to take it back if it is faulty, do not buy direct from China because it is unlikely to get your money back, plus the shipping costs and customs would make it uneconomical to return items.
For example, a year ago I bought a Chinese phone, with superb specifications. It seems to have two faults (at least). First, it is very fussy with the SD card, many applications do not work with it and especially GPS Navigation applications that store huge maps on the SD card. Secondly the GPS receiver is either broken or simply very, very bad. My dedicated Garmin GPS, my wife's iPhone4, my son's Samsung S3 : they all lock on to the GPS almost instantly. The Chinese phone needs to be absolutely stand still for like 5-10 minutes before it can lock on. Completely useless in the car for example, I have to stop the car, and then wait 5-10 minutes so it can lock.
Someone said above that high-end Chinese phones and tabs use Qualcomm and Samsung parts and not their own. Well, no **** Sherlock! That qualifies as one of the most idiotic statements I have read. Every single electronic device in the world uses parts made by various/hundreds of other manufacturers. This has always been the case. I would not expect the Pipo M7 Pro to have components made by Pipo - and it does not matter anyway. My Sony VAIO laptop does not use a "SONY" CPU, or chipset, or GPU, or memory, or capacitors, or resistors, actually I doubt that a single component inside my laptop is actually made by Sony, except perhaps the badge!!!
I have to say, I bought the 2012 N7 as well as my 2013 and both were flawless from the start. My fiancee got my 2012 when i bought my new one and it's still going strong. The only issue I have at all with the 2013 is a delayed wake when using a magnetic cover. That's obviously a software issue, as leaving Bluetooth on fixes the problem.
Oh and Zilliman, your Chinese phone sounds like my old Samsung Captivate. That thing had the worst GPS I've ever seen. Developers worked hard to fix it but it was never very good. Completely useless even when walking, let alone driving.
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I have to say, I bought the 2012 N7 as well as my 2013 and both were flawless from the start. My fiancee got my 2012 when i bought my new one and it's still going strong. The only issue I have at all with the 2013 is a delayed wake when using a magnetic cover. That's obviously a software issue, as leaving Bluetooth on fixes the problem.
Oh and Zilliman, your Chinese phone sounds like my old Samsung Captivate. That thing had the worst GPS I've ever seen. Developers worked hard to fix it but it was never very good. Completely useless even when walking, let alone driving.
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Here's a problem for those with N7 Pro : the speakers crackle at high volume.
Do not buy M7 Pro
OK I guess finally I may have something to help after getting so many helps from this nice forum.
I live in China and I'd say I'm quite familiar with Chinese tablets and nexus devices. (proud owner of both types) I've yet to find a Chinese native brand tablet that marches either Nexus 7's build quality or OS stability. (always search for teardown pics before decision) Usually they have small problems here or there, but you don't have a bug list and workaround thread in a good forum simply because they don't have enough users.
There are worth buying Chinese tablets though. They are usually much cheaper than Nexus 7, don't have fatal problems, have good user base and forums to post workarounds of those small issues, and recently they start to come in so many varieties of screen size. (there used to be a time when they are mainly 7" widescreen, before the mighty Nexus 7's arrival.)
IMHO if you prefer 7" tablet, just grab the new Nexus 7. If not, don't buy M7 Pro for the following reasons:
1 Rockchip is not as friendly to devs as its rival SoC company Allwinner. I can find unofficial CM10.2 on AllWinner platform but I find almost nothing on Rockchip;
2 RK3188 seems strong, but in practice it's not a good chip for HD "Retina" display due to poor design choice of a single channel 32bit memory controller, which results a memory bandwidth that nearly kills GPU performance. BTW that's just a fraction of bandwidth compared to the new Nexus 7. I heard the GPU performance is so poor that even stock launcher can't go butterly smooth.
However RK3188 + a 1024*768 display is fine.
Summary: don't buy RK3188+HD display like the M7 Pro; strongly recommend new Nexus 7
correction: No Chinese SoC performs well on 1080p display. I'd guess 720p is the limit.
Hope it helps
Title says it all. Now that the one max has been announced (and should hit Verizon) will you switch?
I personally have never owned a phablet and that 3300mAh battery is very tempting.
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If I had any other phone but the one, I probably would. But I think the one is the perfect phone for me.
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If I had any other phone but the one, I probably would. But I think the one is the perfect phone for me.
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Ditto. I need a phone that still fits in my pocket.
Nope! Doesn't seem to offer anything more than the One. Other than the fingerprint scanner which I have no want or need for.
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I will probably try to pick one up and either gift the One to my wife to replace her iPhone 5 or just keep it for myself. Either way. I will try to get one!
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I'll stick with the One. Having borrowed a friend's GN2 to play around with, I had issues with pocket space and one-handed use.
With the One Max being larger than that, I can't envision being able to carry one around comfortably.
I'm considering it....I had the Note² prior to the ONE and although this phone is a go, I really miss the screen size of the Note².
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If someone wants to buy me one I'll take it. Haha
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Nope...would of liked a 5.2-5.5 inch one but 5.9 is just overkill...plus the fingerprint scanner looks dumb
The one is more than enough phone for anyone. The max seems to not offer to much more. Plus we have s off. For the one lol
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If someone wants to buy me one I'll take it. Haha
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Agreed. I'd take it if someone gave it to me, but I wouldn't buy it myself.
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Nope. I think the HTC One Max is far too big. I wear pretty slim jeans and I doubt a phablet would fit in my front pockets anyways . Plus, it still has the same Snapdragon 600 and 2GB ram as the regular HTC One. I get plenty great battery life on the HTC One so a larger battery doesn't mean much to me. I also don't like the bezel on the Maxx. I guess its different since the back can be removed, but I think it looks pretty ugly. Reminds me of the bezel on the HTC One mini.
I could totally see why someone would be interested in the large screen, but I personally think 4.7" is perfect for my needs.
The HTC One Max will hopefully be unlock-able by Sonic, to
1) bring them S-OFF
2) get him some credits used to recoup some moneys
would I EVER use a phablet like this? hell no.
5.9 is just insane. 5 would be the largest I think I could use. Anything over just doesn't appeal to me.
Nope. The One is the perfect size for my needs.
ill prolly get one, as long as i can afford it. the fingerprint scanner i have no opinons of yet,but i love the size. i was a disapointed when the one went down in screen size from the dna,so im lookin forward to it.
i hear from someone whose played with one that they are pretty sweet
The One is perfect for me. No need for more.
Personally I think a 6 inch phablet is too big to go in and out of pockets regularly, I would rather keep using my One and get something like the Nexus 7 for the kind of things phablets are used for. I went from the HTC Incredible to the One, that is 3+ years of the same phone and lets be honest the Incredible really is an incredible phone. The only reason I waited so long to get a new phone was because the android phones Verizon was offering were all too big and too fat. Who wants to have something that requires your pants to be altered for the device to fit in your pocket??
After hearing it has pretty much identical specs with the exception of a larger screen, I'd almost only consider it a sidegrade. If it had a snapdragon 800 and a bit of extra fancy stuff I'd take it, but its literally a large HTC one with no real benefit except for the fingerprint scanner and bigger battery :/
So if I were to get a phablet I'd get the note 3, but the HTC One is perfect for me .
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After hearing it has pretty much identical specs with the exception of a larger screen, I'd almost only consider it a sidegrade. If it had a snapdragon 800 and a bit of extra fancy stuff I'd take it, but its literally a large HTC one with no real benefit except for the fingerprint scanner and bigger battery :/
So if I were to get a phablet I'd get the note 3, but the HTC One is perfect for me .
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I thought I had read that it was coming with the Snapdragon 800, but on re-reading the specs I will agree fully. If the camera or SoC were upgraded, I would upgrade. But a larger version of my One just isn't enough for me to pick it up. Like mentioned, I wouldn't say no if someone gave me one or if I just found a really great deal on one. But my next HTC device better have a snapdragon 800 under the hood!
nope, HTC One with bigger screen, bigger battery, but apparently, most will only get 16gb of storage. SD card is nice, but on my note 2, I was frequently running out of internal storage and sd card swap just seems like a bad idea to me. Even the fastest cards can't match internal storage read/write speeds.