Mk so if your a bennchmark ahlic like me you wudve noticed something quadrants scores are low on yaffs2 now anyone who doesnt have quadrant pro wudnt be able to tell they wud prolly blame it on the rom were its the filesystems fault ext4 scores much much much higher in io tests than yaffs2 well the majority of them at least now can someone give me the truth which is faster yaffs2 or ext4 ive given my input now i welcome anybody to give theres. Im just going by what i see ad what i see cntradicts what i know thnx
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I'm guessing you haven't used the new quadrant? It shows performance of CPU/2D/3D/Memory/I.O. but scores are a bit lower than before because the test is a bit more accurate. But your right yaffs2 does give lower scores but when actually using it, it's faster.
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Exactly. Even though the benchmarks are a little lower you can feel the difference. Quadrant seemed to cater to the I/O of EXT4 and it really boosted the benchmarks. However even if yaffs2 is a little slower you gain everything in having the stability of RFS without worrying about journaling and data corruption.
Benchmark what?
Quadrant?
People still strive after this stuff
Just for kicks highest quad I ever pulled...
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I'm guessing you haven't used the new quadrant? It shows performance of CPU/2D/3D/Memory/I.O. but scores are a bit lower than before because the test is a bit more accurate. But your right yaffs2 does give lower scores but when actually using it, it's faster.
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Wel actually im on the latest version of qudrant proffessional. So i am seriouly just wondering also is ther ny specific reason why mtd cnt ron with ext4? Ik its prolly a stupid question but im just curious.
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Wel actually im on the latest version of qudrant proffessional. So i am seriouly just wondering also is ther ny specific reason why mtd cnt ron with ext4? Ik its prolly a stupid question but im just curious.
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That stuff is over my head. But there may be a file system similiar that will make it to the Epic one day. Maybe it will be EXT5 on MTD..who knows. Give it a little time...we have not had MTD for that long yet. Already my phone smokes the ATT Atrix 2 (on stock though). It is blazing fast with no overclocking.
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That stuff is over my head. But there may be a file system similiar that will make it to the Epic one day. Maybe it will be EXT5 on MTD..who knows. Give it a little time...we have not had MTD for that long yet. Already my phone smokes the ATT Atrix 2 (on stock though). It is blazing fast with no overclocking.
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Well not really ext5 no such thing and ext's only work on BML. But I get what you mean. But at the same time I don't. Yaffs2 is faster and much more stable than BML/RFS or BML/EXT2,3,4.
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Well not really ext5 no such thing and ext's only work on BML. But I get what you mean. But at the same time I don't. Yaffs2 is faster and much more stable than BML/RFS or BML/EXT2,3,4.
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I guess what he is saying is that it doesn't get the same benchmarks as Ext4, and I know that is because it is showing the I/O speed as slower, like RFS did versus EXT4. I know benchmarks are crap and yaffs2 feels faster than BML completely. Soooooo then the question is are the benchmark tests not testing I/O speeds accurately due to the differences in MTD and BML or was there things in BML that fooled the tests?
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I guess what he is saying is that it doesn't get the same benchmarks as Ext4, and I know that is because it is showing the I/O speed as slower, like RFS did versus EXT4. I know benchmarks are crap and yaffs2 feels faster than BML completely. Soooooo then the question is are the benchmark tests not testing I/O speeds accurately due to the differences in MTD and BML or was there things in BML that fooled the tests?
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Not really its just the app and things are changed just like in a kernel it self. Samurai in early days was great at benchmarks but then changed for actual performance. Basically don't worry I kno you know that and I know I but others need to realize it.
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Benchmarks do not show actual performance.
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Benchmarks do not show actual performance.
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Yeah, we know. I was just trying to figure out specifically what would cause yaffs 2 to show slower than ext4. I know the result is wrong but was hoping someone knew why...bad calculating routine, delayed I/o...dunno..spitballing.
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Well there is one benchmark that accuratel test yaffs2 i beleived antutu works great my scores increased by a couple hundred after mtd i will admit tho 3xt4 is pretty damn zippy haha
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Lets hear the Epic community speak/vote on this matter.
Stock file system (RFS) or "bleeding edge" file system(EXT4 with or without Journaling)?
You be the judge!
ext4 with journaling... I like the speed but don't like corrupt data.
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Don't see a poll using the xda app, but journaling on.. ext4
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EXT4 with journal ON. Thanks for keeping it on ViperROM! EDIT..FWIW,1449/3283 Smartbench.
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Ext4-no journal
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EXT4, journaling ON please.
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This pole has been done already
My decision is no journaling
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If I had to choose between the two, then no journaling. A choice between the two on install would be nice though.
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Journaling off,
Just be smart and have titanium back up your stuff, on a schedule...
I would have to say journaling on
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I picked journaling on but I'd be interested in knowing how much of a hit it is. Has anyone compared benchmarks?
Why one way or the other why not having a choice.
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I picked journaling on but I'd be interested in knowing how much of a hit it is. Has anyone compared benchmarks?
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its disabled for other reasons besides performance. The performance increase isn't that much. Maybe 50-100 points in quadrant. The main reason for journaling being disabled was to save the nandchips. With journaling enabled it writes more to the nandchips and every write decreases the life of the phone. If I remember correctly with journaling enabled the life of the phone decreases drastacly putting us under the life expectencly of rfs. With journaling disabled are phones would last longer then then if we kept rfs
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its disabled for other reasons besides performance. The performance increase isn't that much. Maybe 50-100 points in quadrant. The main reason for journaling being disabled was to save the nandchips. With journaling enabled it writes more to the nandchips and every write decreases the life of the phone. If I remember correctly with journaling enabled the life of the phone decreases drastacly putting us under the life expectencly of rfs. With journaling disabled are phones would last longer then then if we kept rfs
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Can I change my vote then. Thanks for the explanation ME.
I say the Dev's can do it anyway they want to. No oneis forcing you to flash a rom without journaling, you know the risk. Stick with stock if you don like it.
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I say the Dev's can do it anyway they want to. No oneis forcing you to flash a rom without journaling, you know the risk. Stick with stock if you don like it.
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I'm actually sticking with stock rooted until MIUI or cyanogen come out from now on. I can live without the call log fix and themes
I vote for RFS btw because I always feel like my phone gets progressively buggier when I have ext4
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its disabled for other reasons besides performance. The performance increase isn't that much. Maybe 50-100 points in quadrant. The main reason for journaling being disabled was to save the nandchips. With journaling enabled it writes more to the nandchips and every write decreases the life of the phone. If I remember correctly with journaling enabled the life of the phone decreases drastacly putting us under the life expectencly of rfs. With journaling disabled are phones would last longer then then if we kept rfs
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that's the beauty of a 1 year warranty/TEP
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its disabled for other reasons besides performance. The performance increase isn't that much. Maybe 50-100 points in quadrant. The main reason for journaling being disabled was to save the nandchips. With journaling enabled it writes more to the nandchips and every write decreases the life of the phone. If I remember correctly with journaling enabled the life of the phone decreases drastacly putting us under the life expectencly of rfs. With journaling disabled are phones would last longer then then if we kept rfs
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Yes because I plan on never upgrading my phone for the next 10 years.
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Yes because I plan on never upgrading my phone for the next 10 years.
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I lol'd.
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Who is this?!?
What's wrong but so right with this pic?
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ICS, interesting. Let's see how the rumor mill explains this.
Maybe it was from one of those Rev ROMS...
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The clock speed is also 1.9ghz
Ics and almost 2ghz clocks is crazy
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Somebody's not sharing ICS with us
Went and checked it out to make sure it wasn't some photoshop voodoo and it is there
The question is how easy is it to fake submitted data? If you can't then I'd call it a great sign for the near future but closed in a shroud of unanswered questions.
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Could just be an edited build prop.
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Could just be an edited build prop.
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Fair enough
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Went and checked it out to make sure it wasn't some photoshop voodoo and it is there
The question is how easy is it to fake submitted data? If you can't then I'd call it a great sign for the near future but closed in a shroud of unanswered questions.
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LoL. I knew somebody would think Photoshop made an appearance. I was seeing the effects of the updated v6 supercharger script and there it was.
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LoL. I knew somebody would think Photoshop made an appearance. I was seeing the effects of the updated v6 supercharger script and there it was.
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Wasn't accusing but these days it has to be ruled out
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It's a building prop edit I just edited mines to see if it would show up.
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Maybe it was from one of those Rev ROMS...
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this, Never a fan of that since it led some people to believe ICS was available in our phone.
Someone should modify the build prop to 4.5 and benchmark their phone and time
how long for it to reach the rumor mill.
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It's a building prop edit I just edited mines to see if it would show up.
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it had to be a build prop edit because for ics to be oc at 1.9 and getting that kind of pathetic score would be 1 hell of a disappointment.. when i get over 7300 oc at 1.72 with faux..
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it had to be a build prop edit because for ics to be oc at 1.9 and getting that kind of pathetic score would be 1 hell of a disappointment.. when i get over 7300 oc at 1.72 with faux..
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A lower score with ics would actually make sense. Assuming its is really ics. ICS is much more a system hog itself than previous os. The only reason the transformer prime scores high is because it's a pentacore device so the test stresses all the cores.
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probably the CM9 team trying out stuff?
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probably the CM9 team trying out stuff?
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Hmm, I don't think anyone ever though of that.
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A lower score with ics would actually make sense. Assuming its is really ics. ICS is much more a system hog itself than previous os. The only reason the transformer prime scores high is because it's a pentacore device so the test stresses all the cores.
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Very true, the Exynos is able to keep even with benchmarks, only because it's just a much better CPU, thanks to the Cortex A9 tech. The S3, which snappy, will lose some performance on ICS, most likely not noticeable, but you will lose it on benchmarks.
Remember Rev and his ics build and how much crap people gave him because his build prop was 4.0.3? It's gotta be that.
Message relayed from the dark side.
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Hmm, I don't think anyone ever though of that.
Very true, the Exynos is able to keep even with benchmarks, only because it's just a much better CPU, thanks to the Cortex A9 tech. The S3, which snappy, will lose some performance on ICS, most likely not noticeable, but you will lose it on benchmarks.
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wrong
ics brings performance improvements, the reason why gnexus scored badly is because its running 720p on a sgx540..
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wrong
ics brings performance improvements, the reason why gnexus scored badly is because its running 720p on a sgx540..
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ICS is also more of a system hog, which will drop the benchmarks, but will increase real world performance dramatically.
In just curious what kind of quadrant scores people have been getting with which setups? in running Blazer ROM with Hitman kernel. with setcpu I just hit a score of 6171.
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In just curious what kind of quadrant scores people have been getting with which setups? in running Blazer ROM with Hitman kernel. with setcpu I just hit a score of 6171.
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Pictures or it didn't happen...
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There's at least two other threads that show scores. I've seen quads in the 6k, but I forgot what the setups were. My personal highest was 4932.
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I can't get over 1.5GHz without freezing sadly. I get high 4000s
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. Adjust your voltages maybe
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holy balls those are some high scores..... really dont look into the "epeen benchmarks" since last year... because all it takes to get a higher score is multiple runs and tweaks to the fps/ext4 system
but alot of you hope showing your quadrants/linpacs would get you laid...... lol just playing (i had to)
but damn man those SMOKE the evo 3d on its BEST day/kernel.... and to think... many have said (even my self) that they have the same performance.... (i owned a E4GT since launch and sold it a few weeks later) cant wait to get my white one tomorrow!!!!
blendz rom gunslinger kernel @1.6 set at performance but just started running really buggy after
Didn't do quite as good on this one. its fun to just play around and try and improve your score.
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To the gentleman who some how broke 6500. How did you do it?
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To the gentleman who some how broke 6500. How did you do it?
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With the setup I posted....cleared my ram....1.6 with on demand....setting to performance doesn't give me better preformance...and the low 6000 was on 1.5
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With the setup I posted....cleared my ram....1.6 with on demand....setting to performance doesn't give me better preformance...and the low 6000 was on 1.5
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I got the same set up and all I could muster was:
Using the lazy governor gives me higher scores than ondemand or performance.
I'm not too far behind and I have a single core hahaha 1.5ghz
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I got like 4850 or something like that without any OC. Just Blazer and Gunslinger.
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I got like 4850 or something like that without any OC. Just Blazer and Gunslinger.
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Seriously though take into account the dualcore at 1.2...... its obvious your scores will be higher besides the point quadrant numbers mean nothing to me.... I was just saying for an almost EOL phone 4504 isn't bad
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Seriously though take into account the dualcore at 1.2...... its obvious your scores will be higher besides the point quadrant numbers mean nothing to me.... I was just saying for an almost EOL phone 4504 isn't bad
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Not at all. I wasn't really aiming that at you anyway lol. I thought the quadrant benchmark only tested one core?
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Not at all. I wasn't really aiming that at you anyway lol. I thought the quadrant benchmark only tested one core?
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Doubt it, your thinking of smartbench 2010 and 2011 which '10 is for single cores because it doesn't do multithreads whereas '11 does .
I would think quadrant would use as much as there is. I don't think it only uses one core
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Blazer 3.8 odex hitman kernel
oc to 1504.
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To the gentleman who some how broke 6500. How did you do it?
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A good ROM and oc to 1.7ghz
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A good ROM and oc to 1.7ghz
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Man, Im overclocked to 1.7, cleared ram, and still cant pull 6000.
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After Jb update I got over 6000 now I only get over 3000 and I've noticed a lag pulling down the status bar since, I've already done a factory reset still same outcome, should I be worried? Power saving is off btw stock not rooted
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horr1blek1tten said:
After Jb update I got over 6000 now I only get over 3000 and I've noticed a lag pulling down the status bar since, I've already done a factory reset still same outcome, should I be worried? Power saving is off btw stock not rooted
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Make sure power save is not on
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Make sure power save is not on
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I put in my post power saving is not on read before you post.
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I wouldn't worry. You're probably just testing your phone after using it a lot
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I wouldn't worry. You're probably just testing your phone after using it a lot
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shouldn't make a huge difference of 3k, though...
looking at the scores, your 2D and 3D rendering scores are absolutely awful. yikes. your 2D score should be over 1k and your 3D score should be in the low/mid 2k range. quadrant is a subjective benchmarking app because it takes all of your scores and kind of creates an average, this is why it is not hugely reliable sometimes and also why scores are plummeted
looking at your other scores, however, they are extremely low as well. your mem score should be around 11k, while your CPU score should be around 10K, and IO should be a little faster than what you are showing as well.
i would say your system is being bogged down by another process while you are running the test.
quick question, what ROM are you running?
also, a way to tell if this is indeed a performance issue, and not just quadrant being quadrant... is to download a graphically intense game and play it.. if it skips and lags and jitters a whole lot (which i know was happening during your rendering tests based on the terrible 2D and 3D scores), then there is some issue there. if it runs fine, then simply put, don't worry about it.
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shouldn't make a huge difference of 3k, though...
looking at the scores, your 2D and 3D rendering scores are absolutely awful. yikes. your 2D score should be over 1k and your 3D score should be in the low/mid 2k range. quadrant is a subjective benchmarking app because it takes all of your scores and kind of creates an average, this is why it is not hugely reliable sometimes and also why scores are plummeted
looking at your other scores, however, they are extremely low as well. your mem score should be around 11k, while your CPU score should be around 10K, and IO should be a little faster than what you are showing as well.
i would say your system is being bogged down by another process while you are running the test.
quick question, what ROM are you running?
also, a way to tell if this is indeed a performance issue, and not just quadrant being quadrant... is to download a graphically intense game and play it.. if it skips and lags and jitters a whole lot (which i know was happening during your rendering tests based on the terrible 2D and 3D scores), then there is some issue there. if it runs fine, then simply put, don't worry about it.
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I'm running stock no root. I actually tried playing a game yesterday and it would lag a little. But this started happening when I let me phone go idle for so long.
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usage seems pretty normal.
are you using any cpu controlling apps?
also, just real quick, what ROM and kernel combo are you on bud?
Have you tried to re flash the stock rom? Other then that it has to be hardware.
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usage seems pretty normal.
are you using any cpu controlling apps?
also, just real quick, what ROM and kernel combo are you on bud?
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Everything Stock. And no CPU controlling apps I just upgraded from ICS everything was working fine .
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Have you tried to re flash the stock rom? Other then that it has to be hardware.
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I factory reset twice right after it updated to jb. If this continues, do I have to Odin the factory image?
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I factory reset twice right after it updated to jb. If this continues, do I have to Odin the factory image?
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Is your phone hot when you test? If so thermal throttling may be in place.
But from what it seems it seems like some sort of throttling is in effect. I would recommend another ROM and if it's still horrible you have a bad chip and warranty may be your only option.
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http://phandroid.com/2013/04/02/futuremark-3dmark-benchmark-android/
Just downloaded it. Pretty big file but not bigger than my disappointment at seeing the Note II's score. Yeah I know benchmarks dont mean crap but I figured it would score a lot higher that what it did.
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3328 here. No idea if that's good or not. What did you get?
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3328 here. No idea if that's good or not. What did you get?
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Higher the better.
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300 megabytes has to be some kind of non game app record.
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Our device scores fairly low compared to the nexus 4. Like half.
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nubsors said:
Our device scores fairly low compared to the nexus 4. Like half.
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Barely. The Nexus 4 is neck and neck with the brand new HTC One.
No point in downloading if you haven't yet.
I don't think these are accurate. My scores are in the high 2000. It don't even show up on the scale lol.
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budde2 said:
I don't think these are accurate. My scores are in the high 2000. It don't even show up on the scale lol.
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Well the more tweaks and overclocking and the more and more crap I have running on my phone lol is why I was way over 4000. It says what's your secret... I wouldn't even know where to begin. Start with Perseus kernel though. But seriously would even getting 6 or 7000 Really be a good thing anyway? I mean running every tweak and tweak app and overclock isn't really healthy for your device overall imo. Don't get me wrong I love how fast this thing is but lots of times you end up screwing something up and have to start from scratch.
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Just what we needed, another "benchmark" to make us feel inadequate about our phones.
PS, I hate futuremark. They are BS for a benchmark, but great for stress-testing/burn-in a new video card.
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Regular test: 4606
Extreme: 3160
Running Synergy r50 release
with Perseus and all CPU and GPU maxed out with performance governor.
I know the numbers mean nothing but it's always fun.
Not that it means much, but for fun, here are my numbers:
Regular: 3415
Extreme: 2545
Whomp's latest and No-frills CPU set at performance.
I'd rather have the 15+ hours of battery life than fighting space ships moving a bit faster.
Never understood the benchmark apps. They mean very little in today's devices.
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I don't understand why so many people base a device off a benchmark. Real World is totally different
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I disagree that benchmarks mean nothing. They measure speed and performance which is what I want out of my device. To each his own but they mean everything to me. Some worry more about battery life which is fine but obviously not performance because it would adversely affect your battery.
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t4d73 said:
I disagree that benchmarks mean nothing. They measure speed and performance which is what I want out of my device. To each his own but they mean everything to me. Some worry more about battery life which is fine but obviously not performance because it would adversely affect your battery.
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What a benchmark does is measure how well your particular device does in that particular benchmark... It tells you nothing about real world life of opening or closing apps or about interface lag. Battery life is something real, a bench like this tells you nothing apart from how well your device does on it.
Benches are fundamentally about epeen.
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Skripka said:
What a benchmark does is measure how well your particular device does in that particular benchmark... It tells you nothing about real world life of opening or closing apps or about interface lag. Battery life is something real, a bench like this tells you nothing apart from how well your device does on it.
Benches are fundamentally about epeen.
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I guess what I'm saying is I don't care about battery life because I bought 3 extra batteries and a wall charger so it's not an issue for me and performance is what I want. Yeah maybe benches don't say much but I'm into speed so I like to just have something to compare it too.
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We have the biggest phone, why not want the biggest e-peen?
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I guess what I'm saying is I don't care about battery life because I bought 3 extra batteries and a wall charger so it's not an issue for me and performance is what I want. Yeah maybe benches don't say much but I'm into speed so I like to just have something to compare it too.
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Yes but why is stock nexus 4 so much faster than stock note 2?
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