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I was just thinking.. does anyone know if we really need a Firewall and anti-virus for our S621.
Fortunately for everyone, there's no need of a AV or firewall package for our excaliburs (or we need one?)
dont waste your phones resources on a firewall or av. not needed
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dont waste your phones resources on a firewall or av. not needed
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Yep egsacto my point tooooo.
"There's money to be made by Anti-Virus Fireawll Rea=tailers for SP PPC but valuable RAM to be lost by consumers and for what?"
I posted this about a year ago somewhere else in hyperspace:
I would like to share with you my findings over the last week i have been looking into the aledged WM smartphone virus's and i'm sure you will already know my findings to which only 3 smartphone virus's have been logged, i do believe that the ammount of software advertised would like us to believe different but? The 3 know virus's are not a virus as PC users know a virus but are used to collect data not kill system, please feel free to do a search i used many criterias.
In a search you will get most will be companys trying to sell you a product, i am by no means saying that we should not be careful and think before we download a file and also to use the PC to scan files before transfer, i'm merely stating the fact there is money to be made and that considering how much RAM these anti-virus software take up and is not needed...............
In the end it your choice?
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Yep egsacto my point tooooo.
"There's money to be made by Anti-Virus Fireawll Rea=tailers for SP PPC but valuable RAM to be lost by consumers and for what?"
I posted this about a year ago somewhere else in hyperspace:
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Is like you said, scan files on your pc before transfering them to your phone, and if people want to be extra carefull , don't try to download anything straight to your phone from the internet unless absolutely sure.
i had flexilis mobile spyware and anti-virus with firewall on my dash, it would make my phone realy slow on bootup, and all it block was incomeing ports and just took up lots of memory, took it off and now run better then befor,but very true no need for a antivirus app on windows mobile, and as far as downloading something that well mess your phone up dont worry phone dont have a hard drive, and if you do try downloading a app thats not good for your dash the os securtiy wont let you, and if you do download a app that wont delite you can always hard reset your dash or even download a frish rom if any thing were to ever happen to itor just buy a new one at ebay, only thing to worry is a new app thats out thats called super bluetooth hacker, if some one has that app on there phone thay can try to hack your phone via bluetooth, but thay only can if you let them in, oh ya if thay do get in your phone via there bluetooth hack thay can see and upload everything you have on your phone also make calls useing your number,so for any reason you have your bluetooth open and see someone trying to send you some thing becareful make sure its someone you know,also if someone calls you and says its your phones carrer and want to do a update on your phone and say thay want you to hit the #90 or #9 keys dont its a hack just tell them you well call them back at there home customer care number and do so, and if you lose your phone and its unlocked were as if you dont have a lock code to open it get one make one,on the dash just go to settings then security there you can adjust your phone to stay locked till you unlock it,
The firewall also means call filter.
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The firewall also means call filter.
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Not in a traditional sense of the meaning of firewall and depends on the software if it has a call filter, far better on resouces just to use MagiCall.
I can see a lot of techie people getting very upset about what's been revealed about WP7S, and I'm starting to think that although I too was initially a bit ruffled, much of it really doesn't matter.
1. No SSD support
I always buy the biggest SSD I can, shove it into my new phone, and promptly forget about it. I can't recall the last time I upgraded to a bigger SSD without upgrading my phone at the same time, such is the rate of progress. Indeed, the iPhone, with its internal memory, always seems to be one step ahead of SSD-capable phones. My HD2 has a 16GB SSD, the iPhone has 32GB of memory. 32GB SSDs aren't even available. I never, ever take the SSD out of the phone once it's in there. So for me, removable memory just isn't an issue.
2. Multitasking
I thought I needed this, but looking at the apps I use on my HD2, I can only see one that really genuinely need multitasking, and that's Palringo. As far as I can tell, chat is going to be integrated into the Panels thingy so I probably won't even need to install Palringo anyway. Pausing apps when I switch away from them will be just fine with me.
3. Marketplace
I've never developed my own apps, nor do I intend to, nor do I operate in a corporate environment. Downloading apps from a central marketplace will be 100 times easier than having to trawl through Handango etc for some frankly pretty ****e apps to try to find decent ones. At least the apps in the store will have gone through a vetting process. I just hope Microsoft aren't as draconian as Apple in what they reject. Also, when downloading an app I won't have to choose between speed (install to memory) and space (install to SSD). I will get BOTH without having to decide at all. Sounds good to me!
4. Inter-app communications etc.
I don't believe WM6.5 apps do that anyway!
There you go, flame away - I for one will be much happier with a WP7S phone than I have been with WM6.5.
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4. Inter-app communications etc.
I don't believe WM6.5 apps do that anyway!
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You are very wrong here.
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You are very wrong here.
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Let me rephrase then - I don't believe any of the apps I use do it.
Cash Organizer
Pocket Informant
GCzII
KeePass
Palringo
TomTom 7
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3. Marketplace
I've never developed my own apps, nor do I intend to, nor do I operate in a corporate environment. Downloading apps from a central marketplace will be 100 times easier than having to trawl through Handango etc for some frankly pretty ****e apps to try to find decent ones. At least the apps in the store will have gone through a vetting process. I just hope Microsoft aren't as draconian as Apple in what they reject. Also, when downloading an app I won't have to choose between speed (install to memory) and space (install to SSD). I will get BOTH without having to decide at all. Sounds good to me!
4. Inter-app communications etc.
I don't believe WM6.5 apps do that anyway!
There you go, flame away - I for one will be much happier with a WP7S phone than I have been with WM6.5.
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I don't like the idea that i have to install apps through marketplace, unless the downloaded apps could be saved on the internal/external storage so i can manually install it again if i have to hard reset my device if nescesary.
Imagine you're on vacation, somewhere across the border and suddenly you need to hard reset your device because... because you just had to.
now... installing apps through marketplace requires an data connection, wich of course, you don't have (besides wifi) if you were in another country. Or you'd like to pay for data roaming.
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I don't like the idea that i have to install apps through marketplace, unless the downloaded apps could be saved on the internal/external storage so i can manually install it again if i have to hard reset my device if nescesary.
Imagine you're on vacation, somewhere across the border and suddenly you need to hard reset your device because... because you just had to.
now... installing apps through marketplace requires an data connection, wich of course, you don't have (besides wifi) if you were in another country. Or you'd like to pay for data roaming.
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there is no external storage so without a pc u wont be able to put your info back on without a wifi or data connection which would work like myphone does now. not sure how u would put your apps back on without re downloading all of them from marketplace.
saying this im guess the phone is less likely to go wrong and will be very similar to how a iphone works.
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I don't like the idea that i have to install apps through marketplace, unless the downloaded apps could be saved on the internal/external storage so i can manually install it again if i have to hard reset my device if nescesary.
Imagine you're on vacation, somewhere across the border and suddenly you need to hard reset your device because... because you just had to.
now... installing apps through marketplace requires an data connection, wich of course, you don't have (besides wifi) if you were in another country. Or you'd like to pay for data roaming.
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From my own perspective, I never keep copies of the cab files for my apps on my phone anyway, so that wouldn't help me. Nore have I ever had to do a hard reset on my HD2 (except once for the dreaded lock password issue, now I don't use a lock password). Plus, as there IS NO SSD to store them on, it's kind of a moot point.
I don't like that Marketplace is the only way to install app.
That means MS can potentially shut out competitive product like google map, search etc. This is getting more like apple to me.
Also, if not SD support and no USB Device mode, it's a no go for me.
I'd like to store photos, music and even pc apps etc on my SD in case I need it.
Plus, should your phone become bricked, good luck trying to access to all your content.
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I don't like that Marketplace is the only way to install app.
That means MS can potentially shut out competitive product like google map, search etc. This is getting more like apple to me.
Also, if not SD support and no USB Device mode, it's a no go for me.
I'd like to store photos, music and even pc apps etc on my SD in case I need it.
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Microsoft have already said they will allow all competitors' apps, and I hope that will always remain true. Regarding USB file transfer, have Microsoft specifically said it won't be supported? (I'm not sure)
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Microsoft have already said they will allow all competitors' apps, and I hope that will always remain true. Regarding USB file transfer, have Microsoft specifically said it won't be supported? (I'm not sure)
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ms has said u cant use wm7 as a usb drive, they also said that bing must be used for search, not sure if it must be used for maps too.
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I don't like that Marketplace is the only way to install app.
That means MS can potentially shut out competitive product like google map, search etc. This is getting more like apple to me.
Also, if not SD support and no USB Device mode, it's a no go for me.
I'd like to store photos, music and even pc apps etc on my SD in case I need it.
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I think you still access photos, music etc. with the new media sync application (forgot the name). Indeed it seems to be a major feature of WP7!
But I also use my phone as USB stick, using it for non-media stuff, which I assume won't be possible anymore.
I experienced once incident during holiday to Spain, this is real story.
I was using TomTom and HTC Kaiser. All of sudden, the TomTom application stuck, I could not interact with it ... except hitting the soft-reset hole.
After soft reset, all content in my sd card gone, including the TomTom map.
I really hate that situation because I rely only on my TomTom
Lessen learned, I always keep second SD card on my bag during holiday which contain exactly the same.
So there you go, I think SD card is required.
The thing is, I am willing to sacrifice without SD Card. Probably the above incident was caused by "bad" sd card. With internal storage, probably it will be much more reliable. Ok that's fine.
But ........................
I want a way to EASILY store my files (big files) on the phone. Files like software utility etc. That's handy.
With no file manager ... and no sd card slot, I cannot picture this possible easily.
Probably I could use Zune software (ala iTunes)???
But that will defeat the purpose of having those files available all the time. Because other PC might not have Zune software!
Hmm, using email to transfer file? Yeah right, 3G is still slow compared to direct copy from sd card ! And imagine when roaming to pay data connection.
This is what I really dont like about WP7 ...
I can live without multitasking and side loading, no problem with that.
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From my own perspective, I never keep copies of the cab files for my apps on my phone anyway, so that wouldn't help me. Nore have I ever had to do a hard reset on my HD2 (except once for the dreaded lock password issue, now I don't use a lock password). Plus, as there IS NO SSD to store them on, it's kind of a moot point.
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I remember yesterday, when someone asked Joe Belfiore ... "Will there be Mac support?"
His answer was something like "You dont need PC to be able to use Windows Phone 7 Series" ... "Try to not use PC" ...
Hmm, it'll be a shame to lose the USB drive functionality, but I only really ever used that to load cab files onto my phone (which will be moot as marketplace will be the way to get apps) from my work PC, but I can live without doing that, especially as I shouldn't have been doing that anyway (ahem).
An advantage of using the Zune software to put files onto the phone will be the inbuilt compression and media format conversion though, which will be nice.
I should add that I carry a 32GB memorystick around with me (it's on my house keyfob) and use that for pretty much all my file transfer needs. My phone is so stuffed with mp3s that it has virtually no free space on its SSD, hence it's pretty useless for file transfer anyway!
Yes Jim, I think I must think the same approach.
At this moment, I also carrying 4GB super small micro sd card on my pocket.
I think I need to find one as a key-chain.
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Hmm, it'll be a shame to lose the USB drive functionality, but I only really ever used that to load cab files onto my phone (which will be moot as marketplace will be the way to get apps) from my work PC, but I can live without doing that, especially as I shouldn't have been doing that anyway (ahem).
An advantage of using the Zune software to put files onto the phone will be the inbuilt compression and media format conversion though, which will be nice.
I should add that I carry a 32GB memorystick around with me (it's on my house keyfob) and use that for pretty much all my file transfer needs. My phone is so stuffed with mp3s that it has virtually no free space on its SSD, hence it's pretty useless for file transfer anyway!
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Satnav application vendors often distribute their maps by selling you an SD card with the maps pre-installed on it. How's that going to work without an SD card slot? Are people going to download several gigabytes worth of maps over the data connection?
The way it works for iPhone is pretty straightforward - downloads over 10MB go via iTunes (you can choose to download everything this way, BTW).
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I really don't understand this no SD card thing. If I interpreted the post where I read that information correctly. It's not even that there are no SD cards allowed, it's that they don't want removable SD cards.
I think they said the vendor could have an unremovable SD card if they chose (behind the battery). I'm hoping I mis-interpreted this, I see little reason or sense in having SD card support but making them non-removable. That would just further upset me about that .
But I guess isn't not that big a deal since there's no file management on the device which is an even bigger problem. It's almost like they're trying to alienate their business clients.
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saying this im guess the phone is less likely to go wrong and will be very similar to how a iphone works.
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You think iphones don't go wrong?
Anyhow as far as I can work out most of the new stuff in WP7S compared to WM is lame and actually relates to loss of functionality, with only the potential for easier development being offered in return. If useful apps materialise then maybe the damage won't be that bad but they are sacrificing everything for potential gain.
The fact is though that windows mobile grew on PDAs, and I think most people who want a WM phone want a PDA with a phone attached to it, with the feel of a "PC" in your "pocket". WP7S seems targeted at a completely different consumer who just wants a phone with a flashy touchscreen display. The thing is iphone does that perfectly well already. I don't see anything I want in WP7S, and there's nothing that has been described that I can't get elsewhere in an ordinary (modern) phone. It had better be a better product because I doubt there would be any customer loyalty between 6.5 and 7.
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I really don't understand this no SD card thing.
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But I guess isn't not that big a deal since there's no file management on the device which is an even bigger problem.
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Well you obviously understand the no SD card thing - there's nothing you could do with the card in WP7S with no file system access.
You know I know MS has done some DUMB things over the years but I think this has got to be the dumbest!
I don't put my credit card onlline esp for games and other trivalties. What I do is buy points I did it for my PS3, and I decided to do it for the MS store. Well low and behold the games can be bought, the music/video can be bought with points but NOT the apps!!
This is the dumbest thing. I don't want games on my phone, or music and videos with DRM lock on them. What I wasnt is a sirius Satalie radio app that apperently I can't buy without putting my credit card into the system.
So now because of MS's reasoning people who go to all that effort of building these apps and deserve to be paid for them can't be, and because I like so many others refuse to use our credit cards on the net and for a 1 dollar item the developers loose out. And not that i care i'm out 40 bucks (2800 points) I care that thats money MS gets and I will never spend, so they win!
Or you could do as I do, and when you want to buy an app, you complete the transaction on your phone, and have it charged to your phone bill. No hassle, no fuss, no credit card involved.
Unfortunately i doubt my system works that way, though it would be nice.
yea mine doesnt work either
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Or you could do as I do, and when you want to buy an app, you complete the transaction on your phone, and have it charged to your phone bill. No hassle, no fuss, no credit card involved.
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are the price in USD or local currency(own country currency)
I am in the US, and all of the purchases I have made have been in USD. I don't know how it might work (or not work, as it seems) in other countries.
When I buy from MP I just pay using my Credit Card detail I have it stored with Live ID.. when I dont want them to charge my card I just buy it from my phone instead and my Atnt Bill gets credited at the end of the month for all purchases from my phone together...
I like phone billing better because its all together at month end.. I get time.. where as from card I keep seeing every 8-9 USD two three times.. so sometimes I could run into risk of overdrawing and stuff..
But than if I buy from phone.. I would have to re-install it again in case if I ever have hard reset my phone, (I have never done hard reset on my phone yet!! )... so I use MP to buy and install and dont have any problems..
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But than if I buy from phone.. I would have to re-install it again in case if I ever have hard reset my phone, (I have never done hard reset on my phone yet!! )... so I use MP to buy and install and dont have any problems..
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Actually, even if you buy an app through Zune, you may still have to reinstall it from your phone after a hard reset (or replacement).
I recently added more memory to my Focus, which required a hard reset. After completing the reset, I connected to my PC so Zune could reinstall all of my apps, but only about a third of them auto-reinstalled. I don't know if the limit is time-based or number-based, but from what I could see, only the apps that I had purchased/installed within the last 6 weeks were present. The rest all had to be manually reinstalled, which was not fun at all.
This for me is probably the most frustrating part of the WP7 marketplace. We have no tool, either in Zune OR on the phone (it should be on BOTH) to allow use to see a complete history of what we have downloaded/purchased, with options to permanently remove things from the list that we downloaded to check out, but found to be worthless, and another option, for times such as following a hard reset, to select multiple apps to reinstall (or optionally "all"). Instead, I have to keep it all in a spreadsheet on my PC and manually install almost every single app. Lame.
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Actually, even if you buy an app through Zune, you may still have to reinstall it from your phone after a hard reset (or replacement).
I recently added more memory to my Focus, which required a hard reset. After completing the reset, I connected to my PC so Zune could reinstall all of my apps, but only about a third of them auto-reinstalled. I don't know if the limit is time-based or number-based, but from what I could see, only the apps that I had purchased/installed within the last 6 weeks were present. The rest all had to be manually reinstalled, which was not fun at all.
This for me is probably the most frustrating part of the WP7 marketplace. We have no tool, either in Zune OR on the phone (it should be on BOTH) to allow use to see a complete history of what we have downloaded/purchased, with options to permanently remove things from the list that we downloaded to check out, but found to be worthless, and another option, for times such as following a hard reset, to select multiple apps to reinstall (or optionally "all"). Instead, I have to keep it all in a spreadsheet on my PC and manually install almost every single app. Lame.
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I just save my ATnT bill which lists all my purchase for that month and I also get regular Emails in my LiveID for all the purchases I make at MarketPlace using my Card, so I dont have to maintain a spreadsheet right now..
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We have no tool, either in Zune OR on the phone (it should be on BOTH) to allow use to see a complete history of what we have downloaded/purchased,
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Do through your zune settings on your computer, there is a spot to show you what you bought. thought not sure about that if you buy it on your phone.
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Do through your zune settings on your computer, there is a spot to show you what you bought. thought not sure about that if you buy it on your phone.
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I'm not sure if that even shows a complete history of Zune-purchased apps. And, even for the apps it does list, it doesn't provide any tools to reinstall. In fact, Zune doesn't allow any manual reinstall, period. It HAS TO be done on the phone.
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I hadn't tried to use that tool in a while, because the last time I did use it, it didn't list everything. It looks like it does now list everything (even apps purchased on the phone), but still lacks the ability to reinstall apps from there. And there is still the glaring lack of a similar tool on the phone itself.
Actually it's weird but believe me apps keep reinstalling for a few days on Zune after a hard reset. It doesn't make any sense but I experienced it with my phone.
That said, a way to backup would be ideal, specially when it comes to game saves.
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Actually, even if you buy an app through Zune, you may still have to reinstall it from your phone after a hard reset (or replacement).
I recently added more memory to my Focus, which required a hard reset. After completing the reset, I connected to my PC so Zune could reinstall all of my apps, but only about a third of them auto-reinstalled. I don't know if the limit is time-based or number-based, but from what I could see, only the apps that I had purchased/installed within the last 6 weeks were present. The rest all had to be manually reinstalled, which was not fun at all.
This for me is probably the most frustrating part of the WP7 marketplace. We have no tool, either in Zune OR on the phone (it should be on BOTH) to allow use to see a complete history of what we have downloaded/purchased, with options to permanently remove things from the list that we downloaded to check out, but found to be worthless, and another option, for times such as following a hard reset, to select multiple apps to reinstall (or optionally "all"). Instead, I have to keep it all in a spreadsheet on my PC and manually install almost every single app. Lame.
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also its cheaper to just buy it via ATT, saves me a few cents of sales tax.
Just setup a credit card specifically for online purchases. You are protected. Just make sure you check your statement each month to make sure there were no fraudulent charges.
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also its cheaper to just buy it via ATT, saves me a few cents of sales tax.
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Is it?? I didnt knew that..
I dont know why people have to maintain a list when they get all the info in their billing.. users can just save their emails/atnt bills..
Peew971 said:
Actually it's weird but believe me apps keep reinstalling for a few days on Zune after a hard reset. It doesn't make any sense but I experienced it with my phone.
That said, a way to backup would be ideal, specially when it comes to game saves.
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the Zune created backups save apps and game saves. The backup is surprisingly thorough. There is a program on XDA here now that will trick Zune into creating a backup at any time.
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That's true, but there is no selective restore feature. It's either all or nothing. Plus, if you have a Focus, and add more memory, the backup will not be recognized as valid for your phone any more.
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the Zune created backups save apps and game saves. The backup is surprisingly thorough. There is a program on XDA here now that will trick Zune into creating a backup at any time.
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Really? Are you saying I can restore my game saves? How do I do that?
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Really? Are you saying I can restore my game saves? How do I do that?
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You can't backup specific data with that tool. What it does - basically spoken - is force Zune into the update mode, so it runs a backup of your device. After the backup is finished, the update process is aborted. When you now want to restore the backup, you just do a simple rollback from within Zune.
I need to try this, cheers. Xbox Live is getting cloud saving, would be great if WP7 games were included in that.
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So I love the wifi sync with the WP7, but it seems that it is not designed for multiuser environments.
If you have one WP7 device and one PC that is always on, like a home server or media center, only the active user logged on in order for it to sync. If you have multiple users they will not all sync automatically. If you use a generic login without admin rights for a common machine it won't sync at all.
Am I mistaken? Does anyone find this strange? It seems like such an obvious oversight and easy fix.
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Does anyone find this strange? It seems like such an obvious oversight and easy fix.
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I honestly don't find this strange. A phone is a very very personal single-user thing. Why should it synch its stuff with anyone but the logged-on user?
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jpijper said:
I honestly don't find this strange. A phone is a very very personal single-user thing. Why should it synch its stuff with anyone but the logged-on user?
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Because whomever is logged on is irrelevant. What is the point of a background WiFi sync if you have to be using the machine and logged on? You might as well plug in the phone.
If the service is running at all I would think it would sync all users that needed to be synced. The whole platform of Windows is multi-user.
Otherwise if you have five family members with five phones you have to have five machines left on every night to sync.
Ok this is a joke ??? right ??? Five family members with 5 WP7 phones and all want to sync at night???
And why the pc have to be open all night to sync?? ...Its a 5-10 min (top) proccess even with big amounts of data
WiFi sync its another way of sync ..No cables is the meaning of it ...
And yes ..you are mistaken this its not strange.
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Because whomever is logged on is irrelevant. What is the point of a background WiFi sync if you have to be using the machine and logged on? You might as well plug in the phone.
If the service is running at all I would think it would sync all users that needed to be synced. The whole platform of Windows is multi-user.
Otherwise if you have five family members with five phones you have to have five machines left on every night to sync.
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So I love the wifi sync with the WP7, but it seems that it is not designed for multiuser environments.
If you have one WP7 device and one PC that is always on, like a home server or media center, only the active user logged on in order for it to sync. If you have multiple users they will not all sync automatically. If you use a generic login without admin rights for a common machine it won't sync at all.
Am I mistaken? Does anyone find this strange? It seems like such an obvious oversight and easy fix.
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Have you tried ONLY running Zune on the account you want to sync with and use the "Switch User" function (assuming a moderately newer OS) for other users to user the computer instead of logging out? I havent tried this, just a thought.
No, this is not strange behavior either..... Your just angry because it doesnt work the way YOU want it to work instead of the way it was designed... for the majority.
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Have you tried ONLY running Zune on the account you want to sync with and use the "Switch User" function (assuming a moderately newer OS) for other users to user the computer instead of logging out? I havent tried this, just a thought.
No, this is not strange behavior either..... Your just angry because it doesnt work the way YOU want it to work instead of the way it was designed... for the majority.
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never even thought about the possibility and if somebody had asked me I'd probably say won't work. But, I have fast user switching on here with two users who have WP7 phones and will try this tonight.
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Have you tried ONLY running Zune on the account you want to sync with and use the "Switch User" function (assuming a moderately newer OS) for other users to user the computer instead of logging out? I havent tried this, just a thought.
No, this is not strange behavior either..... Your just angry because it doesnt work the way YOU want it to work instead of the way it was designed... for the majority.
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thats how i have it set up and every morning i check the pc on the normal user account zune is up and says can not connect to windows phone or something along those lines...
it is super annoying i want my phone to sync when im sleeping at night but unfortunatly i can not leave my user account active all night long so basically the feature is useless
When u get home just plug it in for. A few min
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And why not just stay logged in in sleep mode I have nothing to hide from my family
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tried this just now. Once the sync starts I can switch to the other user account and it continues and finishes several albums while I am on the other account.
I was not able to trigger a sync from the other user account yet though. WP7 sync is very fussy though and I may just have to be more patient - or it just doesn't work.
as we know from MS about sync:
Your phone and PC are both connected to your home Wi-Fi network. Note that wireless sync is not supported on workplace Wi-Fi networks.
Your phone battery has at least a medium-level charge ( Battery icon at medium-level) and your phone is connected to an AC power adapter (that is, your phone must be connected to the wall charger and not connected to your computer).
You're not interacting with your phone. For example, you're not touching things on the screen, the backlight is off, and music and videos aren't playing (it's OK if a song or video is paused).
It might take up to 15 minutes for wireless sync to start, and there is no way to manually force it to occur.
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Tried this several more times - no luck. It never starts on the other user account. However, when switching to my account it starts after a while. It continues sync when I switch to the other account in the background.
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It might take up to 15 minutes for wireless sync to start, and there is no way to manually force it to occur.
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That's really sucks :-( BTW, I hope some workaround should exist... What we really need to do is a capture and analyse WiFi traffic between PC and WP7.
My Note arrived. It's great but weird having used iPhones for the last 6 years. I feel somewhat uncomfortable using it but that's because I'm still finding my way around.
Anyway I have a question. I don't get how to use Samsung cloud. I don't get how to back up my photos. It's saying I've used 150MB of cloud storage but I have around 1.5GB of photos. I've also moved all my photos from SD card to internal pictures folder. Any help?
Thanks
Using IOS for six years and then moving to Android is such a big jump most people wouldnt dare, so, seriously, hats off to you.
Anyway, since you are new to Android, I would suggest to just use the Google photos App and backup everything (photos) to your google account and you would get much more freedom.
y2kkingboy said:
Using IOS for six years and then moving to Android is such a big jump most people wouldnt dare, so, seriously, hats off to you.
Anyway, since you are new to Android, I would suggest to just use the Google photos App and backup everything (photos) to your google account and you would get much more freedom.
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Thanks, I still use iOS for the iPad and I'm also a Mac user. So far, the only issue I've had is transferring music from the Mac to the phone. Have you got any suggestions for that? Android file transfer keeps crashing
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Thanks, I still use iOS for the iPad and I'm also a Mac user. So far, the only issue I've had is transferring music from the Mac to the phone. Have you got any suggestions for that? Android file transfer keeps crashing
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Since I use Windows, I never needed an application to transfer music or files from my laptop and this is the case with most if not all Android phones. I would suggest to download Kies (which is like Itunes of Samsung phones), just google Kies for Mac and it will be your first hit.
I am suggesting Kies for another motive, which is you might have a driver problem that does not work well when you connect the phone to your laptop. So when you install the software it will probably fix that and you would not need the software ever again *fingers crossed*. Or you can use Kies anyway, you might like it.
Andr3w_95 said:
Thanks, I still use iOS for the iPad and I'm also a Mac user. So far, the only issue I've had is transferring music from the Mac to the phone. Have you got any suggestions for that? Android file transfer keeps crashing
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I too switched from iOS to android which meant I needed to transfer my iTunes library to my note 7. I used something called isyncr which is free on the desktop available for windows and Mac but it costs £7.99 in the Google play store (unless you want the extremely limited free version). Anyway, I bought it and it was super easy to setup, you select specific playlists, srtistd, albums whatever you want. Then it took about like 10-15 minutes and I transferred nearly 2000 songs onto my SD card. It was really handy.