Okay, so I've become increasingly paranoid of the SE error that's been plauging various Nexus's over the internet. What I can gather from these is that the phone was either:
1.Not properly wiped between ROMs
2.They tried restoring Google Wallet from a backup
3.They flashed the App from the ZIP/APK (Unofficial)
4.They used a preinstalled version of Google Wallet on the flashed ROM
So, now that we can officially install Google Wallet from the Market, do you think that it should be safe to switch between ROMs? I used Google Wallet on my first GNex and it's been one of the best parts about this phone. I would really not like to lose this functionality on a device I dropped $600 on...
Yeah, thing is when you "reset" wallet to flash a new rom it locks you out of prepaid. Some chuckle-head with creative fear mongering has got the bloggers excited over some security crap. If I lost my device I would be more worried about my device that the Happy Meal they could buy at McDonalds with my prepaid card!
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Yeah, thing is when you "reset" wallet to flash a new rom it locks you out of prepaid. Some chuckle-head with creative fear mongering has got the bloggers excited over some security crap. If I lost my device I would be more worried about my device that the Happy Meal they could buy at McDonalds with my prepaid card!
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So how do you flash a new ROM without getting locked out of your prepaid card?
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So how do you flash a new ROM without getting locked out of your prepaid card?
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you don't. at least while google gets its **** together (properly in a few weeks).
Wait, it only locks you out of prepaid? Not the Citibank and total Google Wallet functionality?
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dnlsmy said:
Wait, it only locks you out of prepaid? Not the Citibank and total Google Wallet functionality?
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yes only prepaid. afaik citibank works fine.
If you get the "secure element is not responding" error you're dine with Google wallet until you get a new phone. I'm in that position and that's what Google and Samsung told me
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well i dont know if this has been found out before, but here is my story
i got the hong kong nexus gsm back when it came out here in dallas tx. flashed it to stock google yakju. i used the wallet app apk and everything worked great. when the update came out it stopped working.
go to settings, apps, all. go to wallet, clear data. go to google account manager, clear data. go to google services framework, clear data. once u do that go to about phone check for update. it will have some weird 1969 date. once it checks open wallet and now it works. only thing is pre paid error when adding card
so i flashed to the new takju and same thing. followed thoes steps and same thing.
as far as i can get with wallet
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i posted this in another older thread dealing with the secure element
well i dont know if this has been found out before, but here is my story
i got the hong kong nexus gsm back when it came out here in dallas tx tmobile. flashed it to stock google yakju. i used the wallet app apk and everything worked great. when the update came out it stopped working.
go to settings, apps, all. go to wallet, clear data. go to google account manager, clear data. go to google services framework, clear data. once u do that go to about phone check for update. it will have some weird 1969 date. once it checks open wallet and now it works. only thing is pre paid error when adding card
so i flashed to the new takju and same thing. followed thoes steps and same thing.
as far as i can get with wallet
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i posted this in another older thread dealing with the secure element
well i dont know if this has been found out before, but here is my story
i got the hong kong nexus gsm back when it came out here in dallas tx tmobile. flashed it to stock google yakju. i used the wallet app apk and everything worked great. when the update came out it stopped working.
go to settings, apps, all. go to wallet, clear data. go to google account manager, clear data. go to google services framework, clear data. once u do that go to about phone check for update. it will have some weird 1969 date. once it checks open wallet and now it works. only thing is pre paid error when adding card
so i flashed to the new takju and same thing. followed thoes steps and same thing.
as far as i can get with wallet
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If you are getting an error when adding your prepaid Google card and you previously had one activated, you need to call Money Network and have them do a master reset on your account. The number is 855-896-0693.
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If you are getting an error when adding your prepaid Google card and you previously had one activated, you need to call Money Network and have them do a master reset on your account. The number is 855-896-0693.
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Will try thanks
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I tried, but it did not work for me. I'm still getting the "secure element..." message. Has anyone tried activating with a different battery?
The battery is an antenna. Nothing more. Secure Element lives in your phone.
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I tried, but it did not work for me. I'm still getting the "secure element..." message. Has anyone tried activating with a different battery?
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gonna have to get a replacement...that's what I did
Does the master reset really work? I tried this from an apk long time ago and now it won't work with the market installed app and won't allow me to add a prepaid card.
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Does the master reset really work? I tried this from an apk long time ago and now it won't work with the market installed app and won't allow me to add a prepaid card.
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master reset didnt help mine
Secure Element error message
Check out my post:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=25411964&postcount=20
---Sharmy
I got this today, stuck at "Initializing your device"
I did Wipe Google Wallet from within the app, and after which i went back to google wallet and it's stuck there.
Stays the same after reflashing 4.0.4.
So I saw on DL today that if you wipe your phone, your NFC stops working? Did I read that correctly? I just got my (VZW) nexus yesterday and as soon as I got home I rooted and wiped and ROMed it. I didn't install Google wallet prior to wiping and I still haven't installed it. Did I screw up my NFC?
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I read that today too after already rooting and throwing on a rom. I had been meaning to set up wallet but hadn't yet. So when I saw that I figured I'd give it a shot and see if it works. It did and I got my free $10 credit.
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I wonder this too. It would seem to me that if you never setup wallet in the first place, there's no reason the secure element could be disabled (for lack of a better phrase). But since I have had this phone long, I'm not sure.
But I did root -> wipe -> install AOKP and wallet didn't complain, but after flashing a new kernel, I got an unsupported device warning.
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I wonder this too. It would seem to me that if you never setup wallet in the first place, there's no reason the secure element could be disabled (for lack of a better phrase). But since I have had this phone long, I'm not sure.
But I did root -> wipe -> install AOKP and wallet didn't complain, but after flashing a new kernel, I got an unsupported device warning.
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The unsupported device warning shows if you're rooted.
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The suggested practice for doing a wipe is to go to the Wallet App- Settings- reset Wallet. Then do your wipe or flash as usual.
Haven't tested it either way. Just passing along useful info.
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If you have setup google wallet and then wipe and flash a new rom there is the possibility of killing your secure element. It is suggested to reset wallet within the wallet app before wiping and flashing a new rom.
There is a huge thread in the galaxy apps forum that is usually within the first few pages.
A simple wipe will not affect NFC.
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So I saw on DL today that if you wipe your phone, your NFC stops working? Did I read that correctly? I just got my (VZW) nexus yesterday and as soon as I got home I rooted and wiped and ROMed it. I didn't install Google wallet prior to wiping and I still haven't installed it. Did I screw up my NFC?
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Wiping does not ruin your NFC. What these articles were talking about is wiping and flashing a new ROM without first de-authorizing your Google Wallet app/account. Its a security measure that once the phone has been wiped w/o first de-activating it won't respond to Google Wallet anymore.
Just de-authorize your Google Wallet app before wiping and switching ROMs and you're fine.
I really wish people would understand the difference between NFC, which is the connection standard and radio in your phone to initiate data transfers... and Google Wallet, which is just an app that uses NFC to make mobile payments.
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Wiping does not ruin your NFC. What these articles were talking about is wiping and flashing a new ROM without first de-authorizing your Google Wallet app/account. Its a security measure that once the phone has been wiped w/o first de-activating it won't respond to Google Wallet anymore.
Just de-authorize your Google Wallet app before wiping and switching ROMs and you're fine.
I really wish people would understand the difference between NFC, which is the connection standard and radio in your phone to initiate data transfers... and Google Wallet, which is just an app that uses NFC to make mobile payments.
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well i guess the question i'm asking is: if i've NEVER set up google wallet in the past and have previously wiped, will google wallet be affected?
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well i guess the question i'm asking is: if i've NEVER set up google wallet in the past and have previously wiped, will google wallet be affected?
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I believe the answer is no.
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well i guess the question i'm asking is: if i've NEVER set up google wallet in the past and have previously wiped, will google wallet be affected?
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No... theres was no Google Wallet data to wipe and deauthorize in the first place lol.
That's cool, I haven't set up Google wallet yet and wiped about a dozen times already.
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well i guess the question i'm asking is: if i've NEVER set up google wallet in the past and have previously wiped, will google wallet be affected?
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From what I can tell you should be fine, I did a factory reset right after I got my Galaxy Nexus never having set up Wallet at the time and from what i can tell nothing went rotten on me i.e. no errors when I launch Google wallet. Haven't tried to make a payment though which I should do soon apparently there's a 2 dollar a month upkeep fee on the Google prepaid card if you don't touch it for a 30 day period running on a tangent now, cheers!
i'm not sure if this is the right place to be asking this, but here goes.
so i had a modified version of Google Wallet installed on my rooted Galaxy Nexus. well, i then started to prep the phone to be sold, so i wiped the phone, and flashed a ROM. not realizing until after that i guess there's some weird authentication things with Google Wallet? or something?
well anyways, i didn't make a nandroid backup because my primary device is my (non-rooted) Galaxy S3.and so my Galaxy Nexus was more like a music and games player with a working Google Wallet.
i haven't tried this yet, but would i be able to install Google Wallet again on the phone, then unlink/reset it, and then wipe the phone?
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i'm not sure if this is the right place to be asking this, but here goes.
so i had a modified version of Google Wallet installed on my rooted Galaxy Nexus. well, i then started to prep the phone to be sold, so i wiped the phone, and flashed a ROM. not realizing until after that i guess there's some weird authentication things with Google Wallet? or something?
well anyways, i didn't make a nandroid backup because my primary device is my (non-rooted) Galaxy S3.and so my Galaxy Nexus was more like a music and games player with a working Google Wallet.
i haven't tried this yet, but would i be able to install Google Wallet again on the phone, then unlink/reset it, and then wipe the phone?
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google wallet is unique to the device b/c of the 'secure element'. If you didn't break the secure element, then a re-install of wallet should be fine.
You may have just encountered the secure element error where you didn't restore Google Wallet completely before you wiped your device. If that really is the case, you won't be able to use Google Wallet on it ever again unless somebody devises a fix for it.
I tried to install Google wallet to the phone on the same ROM and different ROMS.
I'm getting the your device isn't supported error now. I've tried 2 different APK files, and I can't download it from Play store.
Any suggestions?
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Device isn't supported just means that you are rooted - doesn't effect functionality...
Correct unsupported device is normal, that means your phone is rooted and money market is not responsible for any loss of money because they feel that a rooted device is less secure. The secure element issue is when your device is broken and the wallet will never work again. At this point your perfectly fine and just like everyone else. If you flash stock and lock the bootloader your unsupported device message should go away.
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the only thing that weirds me out though, is that i had Google Wallet working on it while rooted, but now it's not working.
before, when it was working, that dialog would come up, but then still let me use the app. now it's just auto closing after the alert dialog.
guess i shouldn't worry about it too much since i'm trying to sell it.
Please see wallet.google.com
You can remove all devices, and as soon as the device opens the Google Wallet app, it blows itself up!
So I'm having trouble getting Wallet setup on my Galaxy Nexus...works fine on my Nexus 7.
I can setup the app, but when it says 'setup required' under the card, it always fails to add card. See attached photo.
I've tried resetting the wallet app. I've restored to stock, flashed factory images. I'm unrooted. Can seem to get this fixed. Any advice?
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I thought Verizon screwed us out of Wallet recently?
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I thought Verizon screwed us out of Wallet recently?
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I have the GSM version...
So I called Google Wallet. They told me that the UNLOCKED GSM Galaxy Nexus is NOT SUPPORTED to run on Google Wallet! The new app makes this so. ONLY the Sprint version of the phone is supported! This can't be right can it? Two guys in Google Wallet support said this, including the manager. Any advice? Is this really true?
I'm running it just fine on the unlocked gsm with at&t, don't know what to tell you
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GSM should be supported despite what they said.
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I use it on unlocked GSM on T-Mobile.
Right! I know. So I'm getting this error I posted about whenever I try to setup. Makes NO sense whatsoever. I've reset my phone like 10 times and doesn't work. Tried adding different cards, etc. Tried to setup without my sim card inserted even! Still no go.
just set mine up. GSM unlocked phone from google. Unsupported Device Policy message on top of screen during set up. Set up went ok, it picked up my card number automatically. "Learn more" next to unsupported device msg linked to message:
"Some users may disable important security mechanisms in order to gain system-level "root" access to their device. We strongly discourage doing so if you plan to use Google Wallet. We are unable to support devices with unatuhorized operating systems as the security layers of the device may be limited."
After setup it starts and appears to be functioning, but nothing to try it on. Still has the unsupported device msg also.
Unlocked and rooted my phone, running stock 4.1.
So some of you have actually made purchases with wallet? I have tried at different stores like Best Buy and Home Depot and it connects, but won't let me make my purchase. I have that $50 from buying the phone I need to spend, but can't get it to work anywhere. Anyone have any suggestions?
Me too, on Sprint rooted phone
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I have the GSM version...
So I called Google Wallet. They told me that the UNLOCKED GSM Galaxy Nexus is NOT SUPPORTED to run on Google Wallet! The new app makes this so. ONLY the Sprint version of the phone is supported! This can't be right can it? Two guys in Google Wallet support said this, including the manager. Any advice? Is this really true?
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I just got off the phone with Wallet specialist. He said Wallet would not work on my Galaxy Nexus that I unlocked and rooted. I am running the stock Jelly Bean, but alas, no Wallet. I might as well uninstall it. Bummer.
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I just got off the phone with Wallet specialist. He said Wallet would not work on my Galaxy Nexus that I unlocked and rooted. I am running the stock Jelly Bean, but alas, no Wallet. I might as well uninstall it. Bummer.
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I think the Wallet guys have no clue what they are doing, support-wise. It's a massive fail imo
Just installed Wallet on my unlocked, rooted Galaxy Nexus. Everything went fine. Credit card added with no problem. Says I'm all set up, but haven't used it yet. I get the "Unsupported device" message but I'll believe that if and when it fails. Note that if you have certain parts of Google apps frozen, uninstalled, or blocked with a firewall, Wallet won't install. PS: Take anything a sales rep says with a grain of salt.
I recently found that Google Wallet is available on Google Play, so I installed it.
When opening it says that my device is not supported. I thought I had NFC, what gives?
Has anyone gotten Google Wallet to work with the Note II?
NFC is carrier dependant. I don't believe AT&T has approved that on their network.
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google wallet is carrier dependant and is not supported even though we have nfc. ATT Verizon and tmo are all pushing for isis not google wallet and isis is in trial in texas and arizona. There is currently no way to enable it on this device because the secure element is locked.
I was in Austin about a week ago and they had a lot of isis billboards around town. They are definitely shutting out google wallet for isis. It seems wrong to me to do that to Google.
carriers want a piece of the pie thats why. that is the ONLY reason they are doing this
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NFC is carrier dependant. I don't believe AT&T has approved that on their network.
NFC is not carrier dependent...
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google wallet is carrier dependant and is not supported even though we have nfc. ATT Verizon and tmo are all pushing for isis not google wallet and isis is in trial in texas and arizona. There is currently no way to enable it on this device because the secure element is locked.
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You are right but Google Wallet is nto carrier dependent, it is not dependent on any carrier. But partly correct.
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carriers want a piece of the pie thats why. that is the ONLY reason they are doing this
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Yes also partly correct, Carriers have disabled Google Wallet in attempt to push ISIS, probably a contract deal.
I re-tweeted a comment I came across a few weeks ago on twitter to try and make some noise on this issue. I think if you want wallet, you should craft your own or retweet this.
accept @googlewallet on your devices @ATT , quit the anti-competitive blockage for @PayWithISIS. @FTCgov @TheJusticeDept
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I re-tweeted a comment I came across a few weeks ago on twitter to try and make some noise on this issue. If think if you want wallet you should craft your own or retweet this.
accept @googlewallet on your devices @ATT , quit the anti-competitive blockage for @PayWithISIS. @FTCgov @TheJusticeDept
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I actually already tweeted similar today, in response to an att tweet about ISIS. ATT supporting ISIS is one thing, forcing us to ONLY be able to use it and nothing else is another. Its ridiculous.
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google wallet is carrier dependant and is not supported even though we have nfc. ATT Verizon and tmo are all pushing for isis not google wallet and isis is in trial in texas and arizona. There is currently no way to enable it on this device because the secure element is locked.
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So it's been confirmed that there is a secure element for the NFC on this phone?
When I first got home with my Note II, I was using some native application, and a pop-up occurred that asked me did I want to setup a Google Wallet account. I remember being really happy to see that. Being stupid, I chose not to do it, because I didn't know if it was the exact same Google Wallet found on Google Play. Just wanted to make sure. So I declined. When I attempted to install the app from Play, that's when I got the incompatibility message others got. And so far I haven't seen the prompt to setup Google Wallet from my phone, again. I wonder what would have happened had I tried it that way?
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When I first got home with my Note II, I was using some native application, and a pop-up occurred that asked me did I want to setup a Google Wallet account. I remember being really happy to see that. Being stupid, I chose not to do it, because I didn't know if it was the exact same Google Wallet found on Google Play. Just wanted to make sure. So I declined. When I attempted to install the app from Play, that's when I got the incompatibility message others got. And so far I haven't seen the prompt to setup Google Wallet from my phone, again. I wonder what would have happened had I tried it that way?
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Google wallet is the name of the "method" that you use to pay for Google Play apps (but it isn't the Google wallet app). It probably asked you that when you setup because you don't have a credit card associated with your Gmail account.
Just a guess.
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Google wallet is the name of the "method" that you use to pay for Google Play apps (but it isn't the Google wallet app). It probably asked you that when you setup because you don't have a credit card associated with your Gmail account.
Just a guess.
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Gotcha. That was probably the case.
Milkman00 said:
Google wallet is the name of the "method" that you use to pay for Google Play apps (but it isn't the Google wallet app). It probably asked you that when you setup because you don't have a credit card associated with your Gmail account.
Just a guess.
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That's exactly the case. I wish google had as much pull as apple when it came to OS specific stuff. The carriers have to much power
Just a quick "thought" when they got the 4g lte spectrum werent they told they are not allowed to block certain apps to not be allowed to be used on their network? If i remember correctly verizon just got super sued for that exact reason.
Wasnt the secure element on the s3 by porting from the sprint version?
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also, if goggle wallet needs carrier support, why did my Gnex work with wallet on ATT? if we got an AOSP rom, would wallet work on that? im just starting to learn about the permissions this app needs and how it authenticates
My friend has a rooted aosp note 1 on at&t. He can install Google wallet but it won't run. Its blocked by At&t.
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