Why aren't any of the Sense 3.0 ROMs for the Inc 2 not as stable as the Sense 3.0 official update for the Incredible S?
jakob95 said:
Why aren't any of the Sense 3.0 ROMs for the Inc 2 not as stable as the Sense 3.0 official update for the Incredible S?
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Different processor.
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jakob95 said:
Why aren't any of the Sense 3.0 ROMs for the Inc 2 not as stable as the Sense 3.0 official update for the Incredible S?
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well for starters have you actually used both phones? if not you dont have personal experience
in any event, sense 3.0 is an official update for that phone...ie their rom was built by htc for that phone
our sense 3 roms were ported from other devices...and honestly? at least in my experience with regular 3.0 and our trinity rom, it runs really well....just the usual issues that plague ports with data cut outs for some people (area and phone dependant) which isnt *that* shocking given most inc2 users are running on cdma networks and the rom was meant for a gsm-only phone
they do use *slightly* different processors...but if anything ours should be better if not equal...so thats not an issue
jakob95 said:
Why aren't any of the Sense 3.0 ROMs for the Inc 2 not as stable as the Sense 3.0 official update for the Incredible S?
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Why does cyanogenmod work better on the nexus S than the fascinate?
its based on the official software that shipped with the phone
INCS has a sense 3.0 update from htc, we do not.
My friend has an Incredible S running on official Sense 3.0 so I used his to compare with mine running different Sense 3.0 ROMs. And overall I found his to be more stable by using it. The phones use the same processor. I just don't understand why, as they are both running Sense 3.0 and have the same specs.
jakob95 said:
My friend has an Incredible S running on official Sense 3.0 so I used his to compare with mine running different Sense 3.0 ROMs. And overall I found his to be more stable by using it. The phones use the same processor. I just don't understand why, as they are both running Sense 3.0 and have the same specs.
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Stability is not an issue in regards to just about anything but some data drops
nitsuj17 said:
Stability is not an issue in regards to just about anything but some data drops
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Well I also mean by the lag as well. Apps take longer to respond and lots of stuff in the menus seem sluggish on the Inc 2 with Sense 3.0, compared to Inc S with Sense 3.0 official from HTC.
jakob95 said:
Well I also mean by the lag as well. Apps take longer to respond and lots of stuff in the menus seem sluggish on the Inc 2 with Sense 3.0, compared to Inc S with Sense 3.0 official from HTC.
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what roms also, a lot of devs here have moved on to 3.5, you may be comparing an awesome rom to a relatively unoptimized one
jakob95 said:
Well I also mean by the lag as well. Apps take longer to respond and lots of stuff in the menus seem sluggish on the Inc 2 with Sense 3.0, compared to Inc S with Sense 3.0 official from HTC.
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well i dont know what sense 3.0 roms you are using, but trinity performs just as well as our stock rom
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can someone please help me understand the difference between these two? How does Sense 3.0 fit in with Gingerbread 2.3 or 2.4? Does it?
jminor4326 said:
can someone please help me understand the difference between these two? How does Sense 3.0 fit in with Gingerbread 2.3 or 2.4? Does it?
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To the best of my knowledge, Sense and Android versions are independent of each other. For our purposes, there is a very high likelyhood of getting a stock upgrade to Gingerbread on the EVO 4G (some say impending OTA very soon), but a low chance of us ever seeing Sense 3.0.
Pretty sure we won't see an official Sense 3.0 for our phones...but one can hope? Some of the 3.0 stuff looks awesome!
I don't think there is much difference between froyo and gingerbread. The froyo kernel still works on GB roms. I believe sense 3 is a GB based rom. 2.0- 2.1 are made in both varieties but it doesn't seem to add anything by being based on GB versus froyo.
Sense 3.0 seems to be suited for tablet also. There are minor changes to the way it works. The lock screen has shortcuts on it, cosmetic changes and I did notice the music player now can download cover art. Other than that I have not noticed any major enhancements. HTC hub is starting to work but gives me problems when using a different skin.
is it just me or do it seem like the all the roms with the sense 3.0 on it the widget respond slow??
Jcki4 said:
is it just me or do it seem like the all the roms with the sense 3.0 on it the widget respond slow??
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You can't expect a Rom that's not even suppose to be on our phone to be fully functional and stable. It was originally said that our phone wouldn't be able handle sense 3.0 but these devs proved everyone wrong. They ported it over and little by little the bugs are being worked on and being improved. It's not yet completely stable but I use it as my daily driver and the only problem I have is with battery.
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Sense 3.0 slow?
tony0691 said:
You can't expect a Rom that's not even suppose to be on our phone to be fully functional and stable. It was originally said that our phone wouldn't be able handle sense 3.0 but these devs proved everyone wrong. They ported it over and little by little the bugs are being worked on and being improved. It's not yet completely stable but I use it as my daily driver and the only problem I have is with battery.
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The above statement is true. For example, HTC EVO has the older version of Sense. Truth be told, since Sense 3.0 isn't native for the EVO, or the official rom that was designed for the EVO, one can expect maybe a second lag and the occasional unstableness.
I myself am running 2.3.3 with Sense 3.0 on my EVO, credit due to "Virus," one of the many genius devs here at XDA.
Remember, our phones are like world and life -- not perfect. The devs on the other hand -- pure genius -- FACT!
yea your right but i did my research on the sense 3.0 and i never came across them saying htc evo coudnt handle it and in some of the reviews i was reading bout the rom before i try it they said it was pretty stable but the devs pshh im ready to open my bank acct to them they are all pure genus for doing this for the evo and sharing it with ppl
but i just was scare that the 3.0 sense was actually laging on the widget responds but thank you guys for clearing that up
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I think 3.5 is nice to see but there are too much Bugs in it because it´s ported.
Official Sense 3 is maybe not such fast but stable.
Sense 3.5 seems to have issues with being able to be ported effectively, yet the UI feels slightly faster, it is a much of a muchness, as it's not really a true test in my opinion. Getting away from the obvious differences in the User Interface given current ROMS, it's pretty much down to Kernals and OC/UV set-up which can differ depending on user, as Devs are great at making their ROMS as efficient as they can.
Both in my opinion are fast, when you compare to how our phones used to be as stock, and really depends on the expectation of an individual, which UI they prefer, and how important a little extra speed really means to day to day running and use of your phone.
sense 3 is much faster than 3.5.......sense 3 of dual core sensation isnt that fast.....
rohithksaj said:
sense 3 is much faster than 3.5.......sense 3 of dual core sensation isnt that fast.....
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what sense 3 ROM are you using?
i dont care its fast or not, i just want the rom to be stable and bug free.
renehd2 said:
what sense 3 ROM are you using?
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itz in ma signature....
the RS sensation sense 3.5 rom is pretty smooth, but imo, virtuous (2.35) is smoother. It also doesnt f/c as much (and doesnt have apps that cant be used such as mirror[no ffc])
some guys like sense 3.5 just because of the notes widget, facebook chat app, task widget and the rotation animations..!!
Virtuous 2.35 is the best, bug free everything is smoother faster..
Imo sense 3.5 is faster
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I am using Sense 3.0 since quite sometime and i do not see any issue related to speed. Its quite fast, yet to try sense 3.5. waiting for bug free version of 3.5
Guyz....i'm a new member of this forum. I use a DHD smart phone; but i'm not smart enough in these issues, i think....
Please help me out about sense 3.5.
Will that work good in my phone? What are the bugs/problems you encountered while using that?
& how can i convert to sense 3.5?
Thanks,
Irfan
irfanul alam said:
Guyz....i'm a new member of this forum. I use a DHD smart phone; but i'm not smart enough in these issues, i think....
Please help me out about sense 3.5.
Will that work good in my phone? What are the bugs/problems you encountered while using that?
& how can i convert to sense 3.5?
Thanks,
Irfan
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Hm.. Flash a sense 3.5 ROM . that the only way
WAIT FOR HTC OTA ? sometime HTC may Disappointed u
sense 3.5 rocks!
i'm quite sure that 3.5 is faster.. e.g. Runnymede with Rosie smoothness patch is fu***** smooth !
Sense 3.0 is fast and stable. I'm using the ARHD 6.1.2 and it's fast, really fast!
Its just a matter of personal choice. Just try both of them ARHD 6.1.2 and Runny 3.0.
Personally i like Sense 3.5 coz it just feels a shade better than 3.0. Primarily there is not much difference between 3.0 or 3.5
If this developer pulls this rom off our desires will be up there with the big guns....still!
Looks like that thread got deleted from the dev section
Why would you want sense with ICS?
I used to love sense as it was an improvement over froyo and gingerbread apart from being ugly they were lacking some functions which sense added.
ICS even in its various beta incarnations is better than any of the sense roms (in my opinion) that I have tried.
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Sense or no sense, will be brilliant when that finally crack it!
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Was wondering if that thread was fake or some thing though as its been deleted
I also don't like Sense, but the announced today entry-level HTC One V has almost identical parameters as our old desire and will be running ICS 4.0.3 + Sense 3.6.
Probably the port would be possible after applying the proper kernel modules for QSD8250.
The other phones from the HTC One series will run Sense 4.0, which I doubt will run smoothly on the old Desire's hardware.
xtsbg said:
I also don't like Sense, but the announced today entry-level HTC One V has almost identical parameters as our old desire and will be running ICS 4.0.3 + Sense 3.6.
Probably the port would be possible after applying the proper kernel modules for QSD8250.
The other phones from the HTC One series will run Sense 4.0, which I doubt will run smoothly on the old Desire's hardware.
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Is it not more like the Desire S? 4GB ROM instead of 512MB - but I bet the CPU/Graphics etc. are far different than we have now
I think ICS looks much better without any HTC Sense.
The internal storage is already a resolved issue using a good SD card.
About the CPU/Graphics I believe it will be the 2nd generation Snapdragon + Adreno 205 combination, which is not a lot different.
It's perfect option to sell the last of them. Same as they do with the Legend and Wildfire 2 years ago.
Don't forget also that we got 64 Mb more RAM and probably most of us better IMHO AMOLED display
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xtsbg said:
The other phones from the HTC One series will run Sense 4.0, which I doubt will run smoothly on the old Desire's hardware.
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well, on paper this statement shouldn't be entirely correct. htc got rid of the 3d widgets when you scroll between home screens in sense 4.0 but kept the 3-dimensional workspace, so that should give us some plenty of more performance. if you had a sense 3.0/3.5 rom and had disabled the 3d widgets you'd see the BIG improvement in performance i am talking about...and in my opinion that's because of the comaparitively weak adreno 200 performance compared to the new phone gpus...
i think MIUI interfase most better then any sense
No sense please
When the Desire came out, Sense had a lot of cool functions that left stocking in the dust. Cool widgets, good dialer, good alarm and good integration with fb/twitter. Now all of these things are in stock ICS or available through lightweight apps from the market. Once you have tried the speed of stock builds, I just don't see how you could ever go back to sense.
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i think MIUI interfase most better then any sense
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Any more Sense threads you tried to hijack with your MIUI obsession?
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erklat said:
Any more Sense threads you tried to hijack with your MIUI obsession?
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erklat for world Overlord! Lol.
I think ICS looks much better then HTC Sense.
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I think ICS looks much better then HTC Sense.
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Disagree ICS without sense appears a little bland I think.
I like ICS simplified interface. Tired of Sense's gimmicks. I think that I never install Sense rom again, even if it will be miraculously released official update.
erklat said:
Any more Sense threads you tried to hijack with your MIUI obsession?
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If you compare Sense with plain ICS in a Sense thread, you should allow to compare it to MIUI too. I like the look of MIUI too (especially the new v4)!
Since HTC have revealed the HTC One V for Q2 of this year. Do you reckon some devs will be able to port the RUU over to the HTC Desire?
If you don't know what it is; it can be found here: http://www.techradar.com/news/phone...bile-phones/hands-on-htc-one-v-review-1066217
It states it has a single core 1Ghz CPU and sense 4.0 on top of ICS. Do you think this could be run smoothly on our two year old Desire's once HWA is fully fixed?
topgeardave said:
It states it has a single core 1Ghz CPU and sense 4.0 on top of ICS. Do you think this could be run smoothly on our two year old Desire's once HWA is fully fixed?
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a) even if it has 1GHz single core cpu, it for sure is not one from 2008
b) Sense 3.5 doesn't work smoothly, so mine (possibly broken) logic says that it probably won't.
c) I for one couldn't care less if it gets ported or not. I know that software version is one part of the coin, where no number of updates will change the fact what Desire fundamentally is - a two year old with archaic architecture.
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topgeardave said:
*snip* once HWA is fully fixed?
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I doubt it'll get fixed.
As above, even though its a 1ghz processor, the desires technology is now outdated. Its possible we may get some sense 4.0 with ICS but who knows.
Will just have to wait and see what we get
If hwa is delt with I'm sure we might get sense 4.0 but won't let my hopes go up just yet. Although One V has a newer cpu/gpu so do Sensation/Evo3D/Amaze which run sense 3.0/5 (custom) much like I run it on my desire. There's not that much multitasking in comparison but it's running stable and very, very fast. Comparable to the best sense 1/2.0 roms out here. And it seems that sense 4.0 is lighter on ram since V has just 512mb compared with desires 576. My 2c.
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PlayPetepp said:
Comparable to the best sense 1/2.0 roms out here.
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Blasphemy '-.-
erklat said:
Blasphemy '-.-
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Try it, then reply.
Everyone is entitled to their own oppinion anyway.
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PlayPetepp said:
Try it, then reply.
Everyone is entitled to their own oppinion anyway.
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Well, there's "smooth" and and there's "sense 3.5 smooth". I've tried most 3.0+ roms but I don't think that people here truly understand what smooth is. I was one of those people. Then I tried oxygen (Mildwild's version to be precise) and it utterly ruined sense for me. I just can't go back.
Although I do miss sense from time to time
Wasn't talking about aosp, miui or cm7. Imho, sense will never be as fast. But that's not the topic of this thread anyway.
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I thought AceS 3D port of Sense 3.0 was smooth - but then I went to ICS 0.3.x beta's and was amazed how quick and responsive it was even as a beta.
I do like Sense a lot- especially the camera and people apps but it's days are numbered where ICS is concerned... still wouldn't want to go to stock Gingerbread to be honest but it's probably heaps smoother still
AceS smooth?
It was very, very slow and huge in ram.
I wasn't able to open tweet deck when playing music!
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If aosp roms I've only tried mildwild and my current sense rom is at least as fast, if not faster... Not bragging or something. It's an objective opinion. I was really disappointed, since everyone here seems to think otherwise.
One V uses a S2 CPU. The Desire has a S1.
Although, interestingly, the V has slightly less RAM than the Desire.
If ROMs get ported, I don't think there will be RAM issues, but there will be a lot of lag issues etc.
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I tried reading this topic, but after I got to erklat's post I was hit by an epiphany: None of this matters to me, Sense sucks.
bortak said:
Sense sucks.
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Why exactly? Sense is the best thing that happened to android.
sudkcoce said:
Why exactly? Sense is the best thing that happened to android.
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FTFY
ICS is the best thing that happened to android
Htc said that Sense 4 is lighter than 3.5 + we have One V with 512 Ram so i think it's possible to port and to work smoothly.
"From the original Sense up to Sense 3.5 we added too many things. The original concept was that it had to be simple and it had to be easy to use and we had that philosophy, but over time it got cluttered," Kodera said.
http://www.pocket-lint.com/news/44715/htc-sense-got-too-complicated
w1000i said:
Htc said that Sense 4 is lighter than 3.5 + we have One V with 512 Ram so i think it's possible to port and to work smoothly.
"From the original Sense up to Sense 3.5 we added too many things. The original concept was that it had to be simple and it had to be easy to use and we had that philosophy, but over time it got cluttered," Kodera said.
http://www.pocket-lint.com/news/44715/htc-sense-got-too-complicated
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True, but what about internal memory?
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bortak said:
FTFY
ICS is the best thing that happened to android
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Could not agree more.
I'm all up for this an am infact waiting for this to be ported over to the desire. This new Sense sounds like it'll be less on an issue to run on our devices than Sense 3 and 3.5. Plus I'm looking forward to Android 4 on a Sense phone.
Hopefully this starts happening soon!