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Now that we have perm root, titanium backup

guys, i cant stress this enough and i'm sure the old android heads here will agree with me. their are many many different android phones out there that have root. And although they're all different they all have a few apps in common. setcpu, rom manager, terminal, titanium back up.
I just want to touch base on Titanium backup.
It allows you to totally remove any app, including bloat ware. You can also suspend apps.
the freeze feature was handy because i enjoy sense but didn't like its apps and widgets hogging ram for no reason; considering i never used those sense apps. it netted in a nice battery and performance gain, at least.
one awesome thing about TB is the ability to back up your apps and reinstall all of them. the whole experience is as streamlined as batch market downloading and waaaaaay better than astro file managers one at a time annoying install.
Also, after a full wipe you will definitely want to run market dr so u can easily keep tabs on your updates.
in short, you wouldn't bang her/him without a condom right? well don't flash with out titanium backup!
I totally recommend the paid version!!!!!

So now we can uninstall completely without consequences web2go, Pico TTS, Quickoffice, Listen , Home screen tips, Google Skymaps, Google Translate, Goggles, Finance, wifi calling, etc ??
I was about to but i got a message that said i might have to reinstall the ROM if something craps out...

mauaus said:
So now we can uninstall completely without consequences web2go, Pico TTS, Quickoffice, Listen , Home screen tips, Google Skymaps, Google Translate, Goggles, Finance, wifi calling, etc ??
I was about to but i got a message that said i might have to reinstall the ROM if something craps out...
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you should be able too delete what u want. I wouldn't remove wifi calling though lol
I would wait for a clockwork recovery version to be available. This way u can make a backup before u delete all that

sheek360 said:
you should be able too delete what u want. I wouldn't remove wifi calling though lol
I would wait for a clockwork recovery version to be available. This way u can make a backup before u delete all that
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Im not with tmo it says invalid sim so its of no use to me. Is there a workaround?

mauaus said:
Im not with tmo it says invalid sim so its of no use to me. Is there a workaround?
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oh i see,
in regards to a backup? i think itll be best to be safe than sorry and wait till clockwork recovery is released.

is there a big difference between the free and paid version? what im asking is would i still be able to do back up and delete bloatware with the free version

The batch is MUCH better with the paid version, definitely well worth it

mikeybot said:
The batch is MUCH better with the paid version, definitely well worth it
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I agree!!!!!!!!!

Just one thing: please don't forget that system apps (ie: apps that are part of your ROM) themselves can't be restored by TitaniumBackup for now. Only their data is backed up. So if somebody is not 100% sure about removing a system app, it's wise to try freezing it first -because that's easy to undo.

So how do we do the remove of unwanted apps
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[Q] Remove System Apps??

hey guys i rooted my phone a few weeks back and now an running synergy sense 3.0.
how do i go about deleting the system apps or stock apps that phone will not simply let u uninstall is there an app to do that or do i have to go through the phone hardware itself??

View attachment SdxAppRemoval-1.5.apk
i use this
be careful you can delete important stuff, use caution. back up first!!

I use Titanium Backup to remove system apps.
It has the capability to "freeze" them without actually removing them. This is helpful when you don't really want to get rid of it permanently but just want to stop it from running on its own.
It also allows you to be sure that no problems will be caused by removing the app. If something else depends on it and you start getting force closes you can thaw the app to recover it.
Once you are sure that you want to be rid of it forever you can remove it completely.

off the top your head do u know what all can be removed without messing up pone?

+1 for using Titanium Backup to remove system apps.

kam0603 said:
off the top your head do u know what all can be removed without messing up pone?
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At one time I saw someone here trying to build a comprehensive list. Definitely can remove the 'bloat' like Amazon MP3, NASCAR, NFL, Kindle, Nova, Sprint Navigation, and the other Sprint apps.
Things that get you into trouble are things that are integrated into Android (like Google Talk) or HTC Sense.
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This is the list I was thinking of:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet...EZSd1pFTy1OTlEzWTZkZ3BpS2JXdlE&hl=en_US#gid=0
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misfits MisfitROmV1.2 with ChopSuey kernel works really REALLY well for me and it dosent have almost all the stuff and you can download the stuff you want, (i just did youtube and maps) only downside is he aint around no more. still rom works great

[Q] How to reinstall Sony apps on AOSP?

I have JJ Hybrid 3.1 installed with Sirkays kernel. Is there a way to reinstall some of the Sony apps like Weather Widget, Widget Select Widget, Alarm, Possibly even the home launcher? I tried copying the weather widget apk into system/apps with rw-r-r and rebooted but it still is not available in the ICS widgets menu.

arpith.fbi said:
u cannot use some stock apps as these apps requires sony supporting files,which can only be found on stock roms..
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Can anyone recommend a stock ROM without McAfee and Wisepilot (the two apps I am unable to uninstall). Tweaked to be smoother, faster and more stable would be nice also.
Really I would like only Home launcher, Panorama, Weather widget, Alarm, Widget select widget, Turn things on and off widget (or a better status bar with toggles like some ROMs). Everything else can pretty much go to the bin

deadman3000 said:
Can anyone recommend a stock ROM without McAfee and Wisepilot (the two apps I am unable to uninstall).
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Install Titanium Backup and remove them.

To use the Sony widgets, you need to have the Sony home launcher. Else, it won't work.
You can easily remove McAfee and WisePilot once you root your phone. Either browse to the app location as root and delete it (or) use Titanium Backup as XperienceD suggested.
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I did (tried normal way and with Titanium) and it said they were uninstalled. Reboot the phone though and *POOF* they come back.

try root uninstaller and reboot they are gone for sure,
but why advice everyone titanium back up ?
in my eyes is it a sh*t app

deadman3000 said:
I did (tried normal way and with Titanium) and it said they were uninstalled. Reboot the phone though and *POOF* they come back.
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Ah, then uninstall them again, and look for two apks named McAfee and WisePilot, remove them before rebooting and the will be gone.
Pandemic said:
but why advice everyone titanium back up ?
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Because in a lot of Peoples eyes, it's a great app.

XperienceD said:
Ah, then uninstall them again, and look for two apks named McAfee and WisePilot, remove them before rebooting and the will be gone.
Because in a lot of Peoples eyes, it's a great app.
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LOL tried that. They came back. The APK's that is.

deadman3000 said:
LOL tried that. They came back. The APK's that is.
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Then you need to look for another two AFTER uninstalling. I've seen this before and I can guarantee they can be removed, you just need to find the two apks that auto install.

There must be a copy of those two apks somewhere else and that's causing this problem.
Swyped from my SE Xperia arc (LT15i) using Tapatalk 2

Copy .apk files from stock-based roms such as Arconium or MooDeD ICS. They are placed in "app" folder.

[Q] stock rom, how much bloat?

as someone who has hardly any need for gplus, facebook, etc... how much of the app memory is lost to that?
in practice, how much i can install until disk full messages?
bonus [Q2] any easy way to remove that bloat easily?

gcbxda said:
as someone who has hardly any need for gplus, facebook, etc... how much of the app memory is lost to that?
in practice, how much i can install until disk full messages?
bonus [Q2] any easy way to remove that bloat easily?
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There's about 12 gb internal storage... Lots of space for apps i guess...
Removing bloat will need root...but you can disable the unneeded apps in settings-apps... Disabling won't free up space but it will prevent them from running and hide them from the drawer...
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Memory is not as big of an issue with this device, as you've got an SD slot and your flavor of sizes to pick from.
I've said before and I'll say it again, I think the Sony ROM is one of the best stocks around. It does have some apps I never use (and freeze with Titanium), but it's not half as imposing as others like HTC. It's very easy on the eyes and has options I like.
The idea of softkeys on this phone defies logic to me, but I got rid of those on every ROM I've been on in favor of PIE. I want the screen space...

[Q] Removing Google Apps & Default Apps

I'm just wondering if removing some of the default that come pre installed google apps like gmail, playbook, play games ...or even the default calendar apps is going have any impact on the perfomance on the whole phone system or even the battery life.
It's kinda irritating to see apps that's in the app drawer that i dont use....plan to uninstall them off with titanium backup

eijnaix said:
I'm just wondering if removing some of the default that come pre installed google apps like gmail, playbook, play games ...or even the default calendar apps is going have any impact on the perfomance on the whole phone system or even the battery life.
It's kinda irritating to see apps that's in the app drawer that i dont use....plan to uninstall them off with titanium backup
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if they aren't running and never run (in the foreground or background) they won't impact battery life. if they are running you could stop them or freeze them with titanium. the only other difference they make is cluttering up the app drawer and taking up space in the storage.

BlueC78 said:
if they aren't running and never run (in the foreground or background) they won't impact battery life. if they are running you could stop them or freeze them with titanium. the only other difference they make is cluttering up the app drawer and taking up space in the storage.
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thanks for the info, but removing them would be a better ...yeah ?

eijnaix said:
thanks for the info, but removing them would be a better ...yeah ?
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Removing them, if you never use them won't make any difference at all, you might as well use the "hide" feature in the app drawer.
Removing some LG apps might make a difference, as some of them run even if you never actually use them, but the google apps will only run if you actually open them.
On a side note, I never understand why people buy android phones (especially top of the line, flagship phones!) and then remove almost every trace of Google from them, isn't it kind of defeating the whole point?

Lennyuk said:
Removing them, if you never use them won't make any difference at all, you might as well use the "hide" feature in the app drawer.
Removing some LG apps might make a difference, as some of them run even if you never actually use them, but the google apps will only run if you actually open them.
On a side note, I never understand why people buy android phones (especially top of the line, flagship phones!) and then remove almost every trace of Google from them, isn't it kind of defeating the whole point?
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I uses dropbox over google drive......dont need google music or play bookstore... but uses youtube, map a lot though
I don't suppose android is just about google...isnt it ?

Lennyuk said:
On a side note, I never understand why people buy android phones (especially top of the line, flagship phones!) and then remove almost every trace of Google from them, isn't it kind of defeating the whole point?
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That's the beauty of Android over iOS: you don't HAVE to use Google apps if you don't want to. Being able to uninstall any app should come by default on all ROMs.
I remember the big trial Microsoft has lost when it tried to force all users to use Internet Explorer in Windows. In Europe, they had to add it optionally, and provide way to remove it / download alternative software. Something similar might force Google to do the same in the future (and Apple, LG, Samsung, HTC, etc.)

As far as removing unnecessary core system apps, I've always used Root App Delete with no issues. It does require root but works perfectly to remove any unnecessary apps you don't want. Once I receive my G3 I plan on immediately rooting the phone and using Root App Delete to get rid of any bloat I don't want.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=zsj.android.systemappremover&hl=en

eijnaix said:
I uses dropbox over google drive......dont need google music or play bookstore... but uses youtube, map a lot though
I don't suppose android is just about google...isnt it ?
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exactly where is my point too, dropbox, youtube and google maps, well gmail etc, but dont wanna use g music, newstand, search, google plus etc. there should be an option to delete them without root!