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[Q]How can Sprint tell if your phone has been rooted?

I just unrooted my phone back to stock because I'm thinking about taking it Back to Sprint to see if I can get a replacement for it, since my WiMax stopped working.. How will Sprint be able to tell if my phone has been rooted or not? By files on the memory card or something in the phone itself? Also, do I need the insurance plan to get a replacement? Hoping to get some answers from people with experience in taking back their Evo, after losing their RSA keys..
Thanks for your time.

I would say the super user application but I honestly don't know.
from my EVO using XDA app.

The SuperUser whitelist app in the market?

If you have unrooted back to stock they won't be able to tell. They won't look at your sdcard, but if you are worried about it back everything on it up to your PC and then wipe it before going in. About the insurance thing, if you have TEP all repairs or exchanges are free, if not it will cost you $35 unless it is a lost or stolen, water or physical damage or something like that then you will need insurance or pay full retail.

Okay, so without the TEP, it'll cost me $35 to exchange it at a Sprint location?

nonpointtruth said:
Okay, so without the TEP, it'll cost me $35 to exchange it at a Sprint location?
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Correct sir.

Just make sure you turned you S back to S-On and flashed back to a stock RUU. So boot into your hboot and check to top for that S-On. Make sure you clean up your SD card just in case too, would be suspicious if they look and they see an rom zips or rooted app folder lol

bizdady said:
Just make sure you turned you S back to S-On and flashed back to a stock RUU. So boot into your hboot and check to top for that S-On. Make sure you clean up your SD card just in case too, would be suspicious if they look and they see an rom zips or rooted app folder lol
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Or just run the ruu.

bwcorvus said:
Or just run the ruu.
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The RUU won't turn the hboot back to s-on. You have to flash the unrevoked s-on zip and then run the RUU to fully unroot your phone.

So I've got a dilemma.. Like, I wanna go get a new phone, so I can have 4g back.. But I'm going over what I actually ever used 4g with in the first place.. It's not like downloading or streaming music over 3g is dial-up slow or anything.. And downloading apps from the market doesn't take forever either..
So this is kind of an unofficial poll..
Should I take my phone back and get it replaced by Sprint, and then root it, make sure to back up my WiMax Keys, and run the sweet CM6.1.2 with 4g?
OR
Just root my current phone again and cruise along on 3g?
Like I said, I hardly use my phone for anything other than taking pictures, or listening to music.. And thus far, I haven't noticed a quality decrease using Audiogalaxy over 3g..

So guys, what should I do?

nonpointtruth said:
Okay, so without the TEP, it'll cost me $35 to exchange it at a Sprint location?
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Wrong!
You have 1 year warranty no reason to pay anything.
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nonpointtruth said:
So guys, what should I do?
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I have 4g and don't even use it
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Then that settles it.. I'm re-rooting my phone tonight, and rocking out with some CM6.1.2.. I might even try some others, like the MIUI.. I have noticed some stellar battery life with the newest stock update, though.. Of course, that could be because my 4g isn't always on anymore.

nonpointtruth said:
I just unrooted my phone back to stock because I'm thinking about taking it Back to Sprint to see if I can get a replacement for it, since my WiMax stopped working.. How will Sprint be able to tell if my phone has been rooted or not? By files on the memory card or something in the phone itself? Also, do I need the insurance plan to get a replacement? Hoping to get some answers from people with experience in taking back their Evo, after losing their RSA keys..
Thanks for your time.
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I think losing your RSA keys itself is a clue you were rooted. If you have a tech who knows what to look for, they'll know. If you're lucky, you'll get a tech who doesn't know what to look for, but my understanding is that if they diagnose it as missing keys, that's a problem that isn't happening to people who aren't rooted.
nonpointtruth said:
So this is kind of an unofficial poll..
Should I take my phone back and get it replaced by Sprint, and then root it, make sure to back up my WiMax Keys, and run the sweet CM6.1.2 with 4g?
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Just root my current phone again and cruise along on 3g?
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4G's very nice to have available. Can you live without it? Sure. But you are paying extra for it (despite what Sprint tries to say). Also think about the resale value of the phone, if that's something you care about.

I'm technically not paying for 4g(employee line).. So I'm not worried about that.. My main concern was someone finding out after the fact, and trying to bill me for the full amount of the phone.. Plus, I can always save up for one from Craigslist, or eBay.. Or just wait for the next big, awesome phone to come from Sprint.. I will say this, I like the feel of the Evo Shift, but it's still an inferior phone, even if it does have 4g.

novanosis85 said:
Wrong!
You have 1 year warranty no reason to pay anything.
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Well, if the reason his 4g isnt working is because he messed up his keys while trying to root or flash, the warranty wont cover that.

What is this root in which you speak of? That's not why I lost 4g.. Not at alllllllll.. *shifty eyes*

for all you 4g haters, try 4g again. i use it constantly. it covers about 1/3rd of my daily car circle through the city. i say get your keys back!
btw, you forgot to back them up didnt u

I definitely got mine backed up, on my phone, computer, external, AND dropbox! LOL!

[Q] How do I brick my phone

I kinda of want to intentionally brick my phone just so sprint would replace it. I have been having some trouble with my evo lately, it just started to reboot so frequently lately. I was running decks 1.2.1 and just thought it was the rom, so i completely wipe everything, reflash and same thing. I noticed when my phone rebooted it would get hot or warm, and gps did not work after flashing decks 1.2.1, trying to use gps would automatically cause the phone to reboot. Any rom with the vision gps drivers would cause phone to reboot when trying to use gps, only gps driver that would work was the cm7 drivers, mainly used the N39 one and that would work and I could use gps, but phone kept rebooting. So then i tried to flash the latest stock rom, but had same problem. Also tried to use myn's warm rom release 5, which was always so stable in the past and never had any problems with when i was using it in the past, but yea phone just would reboot at random when phone would get warm or just doing stuff. Then i flashed the latest radio, pri, nv, and hboot. Went back to decks but its very frustrating, i can not use my phone for a long time or it warms up and goes into a bootloop, then have to pull the battery and give it a couple minutes to cool down before i can pop the battery back in and have it not reboot immediately afterwards. So after all this i was just gonna try and brick it to see if i could get another evo, but yea i tried to flash a radio and battery pull but that did not work. Did i screw myself by flashing the latest hboot?

Why don't you flash a stock rom. See if it still does it and then go to sprint and tell them all the problems you're having
We're comin from a pure power source.

That's insurance fraud dude, cause everyone's prices to go up. Don't be that guy.
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I did try a stock rom and it kept happening. That is why I was trying to brick it so they would just exchange it. If I take it to sprint I would need to flash a RUU right? Then deal with sprints b.s. until they exchange it.

I've never had a problem getting my phone replaced. You have problems with your phone. They will replace it. And yes, the ruu will return it to stock.
We're comin from a pure power source.

alaman68 said:
That's insurance fraud dude, cause everyone's prices to go up. Don't be that guy.
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How is it insurance fraud? My phone is not working properly, I have been paying an insurance charge on my plan since the launch of the evo. Don't want to deal with their very annoying employees and just want a replacement, is that too much to ask for?
metalfan78 said:
I've never had a problem getting my phone replaced. You have problems with your phone. They will replace it. And yes, the ruu will return it to stock.
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Well it seems like that is what I am gonna need to do. Must have bad luck then, because I have had a horrible experience getting a phone replaced but thanks.

Pull your battery while flashing a radio update should def brick you but you should just unroot if your worried.
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ellshock said:
How is it insurance fraud? My phone is not working properly, I have been paying an insurance charge on my plan since the launch of the evo. Don't want to deal with their very annoying employees and just want a replacement, is that too much to ask for?
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Return to stock and deal with the bs
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Just tell them you lost it, and they'll overnight you one.

linsalata28 said:
Pull your battery while flashing a radio update should def brick you but you should just unroot if your worried.
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That will definitely brick it.

It sounds like a hardware issue. Sprint will replace it. Don't brick your phone, not worth it.
RUU to the latest update. Get S-On (there are a few threads with tutorials). Try to document your phone acting up if you can (I had an overheating issue with my old phone so I took screenshots of an app showing my phone 135+ degrees. Reboots, maybe video it, I don't know.)
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Anyone getting random reboots on their stock/unrooted E4GTs?

Everything has been perfect with this phone except now I've had two reboots in the past two days and I'm considering swapping it for a new handset (could be indicative of a larger problem). Yesterday it rebooted when I was browsing the internet, it had 70% battery before the reboot and then the phone was reporting 15% right after. I did a battery pull and it came up to 40% after. Weird. Anyone else have any issues like this?
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No issues here. Phone works flawlessly for me under heavy use.
sent from my DAMN phone!

never happened to me either...fully stock, never rooted
If it happens to you again, if you are within the return window, you may want to exchange it

Yep... watch this youtube.com/watch?v=8pMLxyThxEk
what a piece. And sprint is no help. Not in person. Not "Dan Hesse's Office"

That doesn't sound right at all. I haven't had a single one..not even when messing around overclocked to 1.6
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Happened to me every time I tried to uninstall/go into parts of the phone. Happened a Month ago, dida format stock...all okay like nothing happened.
-jr
Ps, it was after phone got easy too hot using hdmi out for over 3 hours...I believe the phone was well above the 125°, as o could not touch it.
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Never had the problem when it was stock...if anything, it did drain the battery a bit. But that's expected.

tubasteve said:
Happened to me every time I tried to uninstall/go into parts of the phone. Happened a Month ago, dida format stock...all okay like nothing happened.
-jr
Ps, it was after phone got easy too hot using hdmi out for over 3 hours...I believe the phone was well above the 125°, as o could not touch it.
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I have been told that the phone will shut itself down to prevent heat damage.
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I havent had a single one since I posted this thread. I'm thinking it was a fluke. My phone runs like a champ now, especially since I rooted and used autostarts and titanium to get all the bloat under control.

Wait... people on here that don't root? I'm confused...

subcypher said:
Wait... people on here that don't root? I'm confused...
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At the time I posted this thread I was still waiting for a way to root my current ROM, with no flashing involved. With all the problems that people were having with LOS I didn't want to risk flashing a new kernel and potentially starting to get LOS when I never had it before. I still haven't had a single one and I got this phone on release day

Well, thanks to a FUBAR with the CIQ removal script and no backup, I moved away from stock. I'm now running Calkulin's and haven't had any LOS or random reboots. At least, that's what I'm running while I patiently wait for CM9. That being said, I recommend it.

subcypher said:
Well, thanks to a FUBAR with the CIQ removal script and no backup, I moved away from stock. I'm now running Calkulin's and haven't had any LOS or random reboots. At least, that's what I'm running while I patiently wait for CM9. That being said, I recommend it.
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Yeah I had the same FUBAR lol. I ended up using odin to go the EG31 route. I really feel no desire to go with a custom ROM. Back in the EVO days the stock ROM was always so bloated even with just Sense that you HAD to go custom to get any performance or decent battery life out of it. The stock ROM on our E4GTs just blazes and is damn near perfect already. The only thing left for me to do is get rid of CiQ and then it will be absolutely perfect. I have the odexed version of the noCiQ mod waiting to be flashed but I'm 1000 miles from home for the next few weeks and can't risk screwing up my phone. I only brought my macbook with me so using odin in case of a fowl up is not an option right now.

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Yeah I had the same FUBAR lol. I ended up using odin to go the EG31 route. I really feel no desire to go with a custom ROM. Back in the EVO days the stock ROM was always so bloated even with just Sense that you HAD to go custom to get any performance or decent battery life out of it. The stock ROM on our E4GTs just blazes and is damn near perfect already. The only thing left for me to do is get rid of CiQ and then it will be absolutely perfect. I have the odexed version of the noCiQ mod waiting to be flashed but I'm 1000 miles from home for the next few weeks and can't risk screwing up my phone. I only brought my macbook with me so using odin in case of a fowl up is not an option right now.
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I know what you mean, man. But once you're rooted and have Clockwork on there, you can do Nandroid backups and flash right from your SD card! But, hey, safe journeys.

subcypher said:
I know what you mean, man. But once you're rooted and have Clockwork on there, you can do Nandroid backups and flash right from your SD card! But, hey, safe journeys.
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Oh I'm aware. I still do nandroids just in case now but honestly, stock ROM+removed bloat + autostarts is awesome.
I used to be flash happy when I had my EVO, I flashed new ROMs all the time (and always ended up back at MIUI). With my E4GT I just want it to work with no problems and I'm happy.

I'm stock too. I did the whole flash everything under the sun with my evolution and evo 3d and other phones. Ill root and flash when cm9 is stable. I had one radom reboot once but I think it was an app issue.
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[Q] Is it bricked?

I have the EVO 4G (obviously), it is flashed to Cricket. I have been trying different radios to try and get a better signal. I've been using AMON because CW didn't seem to make the radios stay. I tried EVO_Radio_2.15.00.04.08 and it went through the process of updating, then a blue folder popped up, the phone shut off and now it won't turn on at all. I'm sure it's eff'ed, but if anyone has any help don't hesitate to post. Thank you.

xlarkascendingx said:
I have the EVO 4G (obviously), it is flashed to Cricket. I have been trying different radios to try and get a better signal. I've been using AMON because CW didn't seem to make the radios stay. I tried EVO_Radio_2.15.00.04.08 and it went through the process of updating, then a blue folder popped up, the phone shut off and now it won't turn on at all. I'm sure it's eff'ed, but if anyone has any help don't hesitate to post. Thank you.
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How much battery did you have when you attempted the radio flash because I have a feeling the phone ran our if battery during it?
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At least 50 percent. I think AMON just ****ed up or something. I'm sure it's bricked, there's no other explanation. Pretty sweet too because I just got this thing 3 days ago.

xlarkascendingx said:
At least 50 percent. I think AMON just ****ed up or something. I'm sure it's bricked, there's no other explanation. Pretty sweet too because I just got this thing 3 days ago.
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Well last resort is if you can load bootloader but seeing you can't turn on at all you have an expensive brick you can return to sprint
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[Q] Optimus G Sensors not responding

Hey there,
I have been having some issues with my LGOG over the past month or so and I have just started to look into possible solutions.
I first noticed that screen rotation and proximity sensing seemed to be non-functional. I always had problems with screen rotation, but it basically stopped completely after I rooted/unlocked (using manuals on XDA and FreeGee app). I was stuck on ZV8 (couldn't upgrade because root) and figured that an updated ROM would solve my problem.
I have now updated to Lifeless v11 ROM and have found nearly every sensor (including light, sound, proximity, gyro, etc) to be non-responsive. I then thought this must be a kernel problem, so I tried flashing Joker's test kernel (from Aroma) and his Stockish 2.1.1 kernel. No dice. Additionally, I tried to do a sensor calibration and was given the message "Calibration failed. Try again".
I realize there is a possibility that this could be a hardware issue, but is there any other possibility I have overlooked? I have isolated some error messages in logcat, if that would help at all.
Thanks in advance for the help.

Seems like a defective phone. You should return under warranty.
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alsaces daddy said:
Seems like a defective phone. You should return under warranty.
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Awesome, will do. Do you know if they will give me trouble for having messed around with things? I suppose I could always just restore my old backup I made with the stock ROM and re-lock the bootloader and unroot.
Do you think I need to go through that? Not that it's the end of the world.

rife said:
Awesome, will do. Do you know if they will give me trouble for having messed around with things? I suppose I could always just restore my old backup I made with the stock ROM and re-lock the bootloader and unroot.
Do you think I need to go through that? Not that it's the end of the world.
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Honestly I would just in case. Ya know? They could say you messed it up with whatever you did and whatnot.
Just for kicks and giggles.. What ROM are you on and what tweaks did you add?
Scratch that. Try reflashing the ROM after a system, cache, and dalvik cache whip. Very well could have been a bad flash. If that's not the case then clear, lock, and unroot.
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Honestly I would just in case. Ya know? They could say you messed it up with whatever you did and whatnot.
Just for kicks and giggles.. What ROM are you on and what tweaks did you add?
Scratch that. Try reflashing the ROM after a system, cache, and dalvik cache whip. Very well could have been a bad flash. If that's not the case then clear, lock, and unroot.
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Very cool, thanks for your great advice!
I was on Lifeless v.11. I tried your suggestion (wipe caches/system and reflash), but unfortunately no dice. I also tried rolling back to my stock backup and there is still no functionality. Seems like I have a broken unit. :/
I'm going to roll everything back as much as I can and cover my tracks so I can try and get a replacement this weekend. Hopefully they don't jerk me around too much in the process!
Thanks again, and have a good week(end).
EDIT:
BTW, I had installed all the tweaks that were installed with Lifeless (quite a comprehensive list). I thought that might be the issue as well, but seeing as how my stock backup is still giving me issues, it looks like it's strictly a hardware issue...

If you have insurance through Sprint you honestly should not need to worry about them knowing you had the phone rooted or anything. They asked me if I rooted the first android phone I had, but said they didn't care, they just had problems with reflashing rooted/unlocked versions of the phone before so were being safe. Now it's to the point where I just tell them I broke it lol. I took my LGOG in yesterday after a failed update/flash back to stock at work. Told him exactly what I did, they ordered me a new phone (New, not a refurb cuz they were on backorder ). I was actually able to get it fixed, and even let them know, and they said they already ordered it so I'll have a new phone on Monday either way lol.
I try to flash back to stock still, just in case that one day they decide to change policies without me knowing. But if I'm in a hurry I don't worry about it.
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dont think you are gonna walk in and walk back out with a phone. the G is on backorder. I've been waiting on a replacement since the 16th and still nothing.

Just for future information:
I went into the Sprint Store this afternoon and found, just as others suggested, that they would need time to replace it. They kicker was that they told me that there was no way that I would get a new phone as a replacement. I could expect a refurbished model of unknown quality.
I finally found out that I could take up the issue with LG directly, so I opted to do so. They informed me that as long as there was no impact or water damage (which there isn't), they would do their best to either repair or replace the phone. The problem is that I have to pay to ship the phone to their Texas plant and then wait for up to a week while they repair the unit.
This isn't the best of circumstances, but I figure this might be the better solution. I will be taking photos before I send it to be sure that whatever I get back isn't a random refurb with cosmetic damage (mine is almost pristine).
I'll keep this thread posted with how everything goes.

Same problem
guyz i got the phone from my teacher..he told me that every time he try to factory reset error comes"boot secure error" and phone cant factory reset and also rotation sensor not working ..i flashed official v19G and after that evert single one sensor no working,literally every sensor in showing 0 value through exilar app..any solution which can solve this ..???
my phone model is F180K

That's not a sprint phone. Ls970 is Sprint model,
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