I'm confused - Samsung Epic 4G Touch

I'm new to the E4GT, but not to rooting.
It was quite easy to do, following the steps and what not. What's confusing to me is this.
I'm running BlazeROM, which instructs not to use the Hitman recovery to flash, yet I was running rogue recovery which I think is the same thing?
So then, being brave I've flashed the ClockworkMOD recovery, no issues. Then for sharts and googles I flashed the touch version of CWM to see if that broke anything.
So far so good. Which recovery should I be running? Does it matter? and what's a "modem" in this phone's context? Is it like a Radio for the other phones?
Thanks for any schooling anyone can provide.

well first off a modem is the radio. no one radio is best. just try them all out to see if one performs better for you. you can mix and match radio's and roms no pro lem.second I prefer not using hitman. it doesn't seem to wipe well and is a little buggy. you can use it with blazer. you just cannot flash blazer with it. I use rogue gunslinger myself. definitely better in my opinion. also I choose not to use blazer. I use ruljelus 1.2. my modem that seems to work best is el 29. the order of te modems are as follows. eg12-eg30-eg31-ek02-el13-el26-el29. so el29 is th newest. anymore questions and I'd be happy to help

There's a difference between Rogue recovery and Rogue Hitman. Hitman includes the touch recovery. Blazer works with it but you can't flash a new version ofBlazer if you have it or else you'll be stuck at the boot screen. I personally use Gunslinger (version before Hitman) over the stock because it let's me undervolt
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rogue is the team name of the people who put out kernels...gunslinger and hitman are the names given to the kernel

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[Q] can I use Lostkernal with Calkullins E4GT ROM?

I'm using the latest calkulin e4gt rom. The kernel it came with is rogue something. I'm wondering if I can use Lostkernal with this rom because I keep losing signal. Will I lose battery performance? How exactly do I switch out kernels?
Many thanks, new rom user.
Samsung longest phone name ever 4g touch
You can flash another kernal. Use Clockworkmod to flash it.
This video is a bit old, but it's an easy tutorial to follow:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EZWyJ4N01Is
I'm not sure if LoSt kernal will affect the battery any differently than rogue, but I suspect it won't.
If LoS is that bad of an issue for you, and you haven't flashed the eg31 modem in the past, go look for how to install the new EK02 modem in the development forum. It appears to be the new modem to solve LoS.
Pretty much all our kernels are interchangeable so far. Just do a backup to be sure.
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[Q] EL13 kernel?

Hello!
Where can I find EL13 kernel and how can I install it?
I've found the kernel here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1389874 but it says no CWM
I'm just confused. Can I flash this kernel or not? And if I can't do it, where I can find the EL13 kernel I can install?
Please, help me, guys?
Buy the way, happy holidays to all of you. And Good luck!
steadyhawking released a flashable one in the dev section. I flashed it threw cwm.
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Will of fire said:
steadyhawking released a flashable one in the dev section. I flashed it threw cwm.
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Сan you show me the link, please?
Thank you!
Here is the one from Steady Hawking. Includes Rogue Recovery. Flash through CWM or previous version of rogue recovery.
If you flash that, do you need to also flash the modem? Or does it do it all at once?
Been looking for this thanks!!!
If you flash that, it only includes the kernel. The modem will have to be flashed seperately.
newbie, which one should I flash? been on rouge stock, the first release with no los issues anymore. eg30 (?) is what I have now.
Are modem and kernel independent of one another? Currently I have and EK02 kernel and EL13 modem. They seem to be working fine together and I'm getting great 3g service. Do I need the EL13 kernel?
Also part 2, will flashing the rogue EL13 kernel wipe out my ACS recovery, since it seems that the rogue recovery is attached?
reduxtech said:
Are modem and kernel independent of one another? Currently I have and EK02 kernel and EL13 modem. They seem to be working fine together and I'm getting great 3g service. Do I need the EL13 kernel?
Also part 2, will flashing the rogue EL13 kernel wipe out my ACS recovery, since it seems that the rogue recovery is attached?
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No they are not because if they were your setup would not work as it is now. Yes if you flash one recovery over another you will change it... My suggestion to you is to go and read up on the wiki page for our phones. Your questions which I understand because you are a noob can get you into trouble if you do the wrong thing. This stuff truly is easy and common sense once you get the lingo so thats why I am telling you to go find the wiki...
Also I did not provide a link because I think thats part of learning, the ability to find what you are looking for and apply it to what you need.... IMO Good Luck and have fun....
thanks. I'll dig in and read up.
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[Q] Custom ROMs: They slow down my phone? O_o"

Hey guys, and ladies, I'm a little stupefied at the moment due to the fact that every custom ROM I've used, Blazer3.9-4.1, CalkulinEL29, and FD19-24 ICS leak has actually made my e4gt run a little slower and less "smooth" during scrolling and animations. I know that these numbers don't ACTUALLY matter but also my Quadrant and Antutu benchmarks always drop when I'm not on stock, even if I'm overclocking, the only exception was FD19 which boosted Antutu to 6400+.
For example, Blazer 4.1, which I love, is benched at 2400-2800 on Antutu VS stock of 3500-3700; Calkulin EL29 got 3100-3300 on Antutu VS stock of 3500-3700. Is it just me or are these benchmarks just a complete hoax?
Whatever the case is I'm just looking for the fastest and most "stable" ROM available, like everyone else, so If you have a link to something where everything works, including 4G, I'd appreciate it very much.
I'm still fresh to this site so I'm having difficulty finding anything even with the great search menu, which I can't figure out how to use. lol.
IMO, the Unnamed rom was the best gingerbread rom ever released for this phone! AWSOME battery life, smokin fast, and everything works, including 4g .
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1386280&page=101
I would also reccomend using the desperado kernel for overclock of up to 1.7ghz! You can also underclock lower speeds for superb battery life. I don't have the link, but you can just search google and it should come up!
Thank you! ^^
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IMO, the Unnamed rom was the best gingerbread rom ever released for this phone! AWSOME battery life, smokin fast, and everything works, including 4g .
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1386280&page=101
I would also reccomend using the desperado kernel for overclock of up to 1.7ghz! You can also underclock lower speeds for superb battery life. I don't have the link, but you can just search google and it should come up!
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That's what I'm talking about! ^^ Some good info for once on this forum, usually I get "noob" or "gtfo" like they were NEVER like me once upon a time.
I'm definitely going to look for that desperado kernel for sure because I'm NUTS about benchmarks..haha..
I've seen some dudes running 2.0Mhz or Ghz which ever is the right speed, like I care lol, and that doesn't even seem possible for a smartphone. I want that guys kernel or ROM or whatever!
So your phone is slow and lagging? If so that's not normal. I've never had a custom rom cause any real slow down or lagging.
Benchmarks are not very accurate most of the time, and especially on gingerbread where the hardware isn't properly utilized. All that matters is the real world performance.
Out of curiosity why are you worried about getting good bench scores? I would give AOKP based roms a try
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I'm kinda OCD about maintaining things..
LordJummy said:
So your phone is slow and lagging? If so that's not normal. I've never had a custom rom cause any real slow down or lagging.
Benchmarks are not very accurate most of the time, and especially on gingerbread where the hardware isn't properly utilized. All that matters is the real world performance.
Out of curiosity why are you worried about getting good bench scores? I would give AOKP based roms a try
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I answered your question about the benchmarks in the post title. ^^
...and what I mean about "maintaining" is to keep it good or make it better.
I've been interested in the AOKP roms but I have no clue where to find them or what they would look like. Link?
You're working to maintain a placebo. Benchmarks mean virtually nothing. I've had Roms fly that you could only get low scores from. I've had ones that scored well but lagged and acted glitchy. Find a Rom that suits you when you use it. You can look to odex it to get an even smoother feel. Not sure what else to tell you.
Nabbu said:
I answered your question about the benchmarks in the post title. ^^
...and what I mean about "maintaining" is to keep it good or make it better.
I've been interested in the AOKP roms but I have no clue where to find them or what they would look like. Link?
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Wow lol. You already answered your own question then.
The roms are right here in the development forum.
By the way you shouldn't be over clocking your phone if you don't understand the difference between megahertz and gigahertz or what that frequency means.
You should try reading the wiki or you're going to end up killing your nice $600 phone
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Nabbu said:
I answered your question about the benchmarks in the post title. ^^
...and what I mean about "maintaining" is to keep it good or make it better.
I've been interested in the AOKP roms but I have no clue where to find them or what they would look like. Link?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1514665
Here's a link to AOKP. To install, Odin the stock EL26, install CWM for EL26, and flash after wiping data. MAKE SURE YOU ONLY FLASH WITH EL26 CWM OR ELSE YOU'LL BRICK
OMG
iniz94 said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1514665
Here's a link to AOKP. To install, Odin the stock EL26, install CWM for EL26, and flash after wiping data. MAKE SURE YOU ONLY FLASH WITH EL26 CWM OR ELSE YOU'LL BRICK
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I'm using AOKP right now and it's....AMAZING. O_O" THANK YOU!!
iniz94 said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1514665
Here's a link to AOKP. To install, Odin the stock EL26, install CWM for EL26, and flash after wiping data. MAKE SURE YOU ONLY FLASH WITH EL26 CWM OR ELSE YOU'LL BRICK
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You don't have to Odin the EL26 ROM, just the kernel.
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nitro_c4 said:
You don't have to Odin the EL26 ROM, just the kernel.
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If he's coming from GB, it's highly recommended to do a clean install. Plus he'll want to update PRL and Profile before and get a GPS lock
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iniz94 said:
If he's coming from GB, it's highly recommended to do a clean install. Plus he'll want to update PRL and Profile before and get a GPS lock
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El26 kernel will boot the el29 rom you only need el26 kernel for stock cwm you don't need the entire rom I mOdin el26 restore a base el29 rom with the bootimg removed update prl and profile boot back to el26+cwm and then flash aokp atleast once a day I do it that way cuz its what I have on my SD card and its quick and easy when I'm out and about and I only need to mOdin my kernel/recovery once. I used to flash an el29 rom and mOdin back to el26 but that requires reinstalling tibu to restore mOdin on el29 or else I have to redownload the flash kernel everytime which takes up time and wastes battery
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Ya kernels make a HUGE difference. I thought I hated Phantom Hackers blazer ROM because I was using gunslinger and it was SOOO laggy. Tried el26 and now it Flies! Battery life is not as good as gunslinger but I cant have my phone at all laggy! O ya Blazer ROM is Amazing by the way. If you haven't I would suggest checking it out. Also for speed and stability I would check out StrongSteves Odexed blue as well. Best Gingerbread roms out bar none!
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El26 kernel will boot the el29 rom you only need el26 kernel for stock cwm you don't need the entire rom I mOdin el26 restore a base el29 rom with the bootimg removed update prl and profile boot back to el26+cwm and then flash aokp atleast once a day I do it that way cuz its what I have on my SD card and its quick and easy when I'm out and about and I only need to mOdin my kernel/recovery once. I used to flash an el29 rom and mOdin back to el26 but that requires reinstalling tibu to restore mOdin on el29 or else I have to redownload the flash kernel everytime which takes up time and wastes battery
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Not saying your way doesn't work because I do the same thing, but Odining a new EL26 has a less chance of brick. I don't see how or why you are disputing that.
Another possible slowdown could be an app or apps. Its a pain to find which one it is. This has happened to me on many phones. If I don't use an app in a week, then its just taking up space. I used to do it where if I didn't use the app everyday, I'd uninstall it. I also go into /system/app and ".old" apks I don't need so they aren't running. If I find I knocked one out that another app relied on, I simply remove the .old and reboot. There's a lot of crap bloat on the phone.
iniz94 said:
Not saying your way doesn't work because I do the same thing, but Odining a new EL26 has a less chance of brick. I don't see how or why you are disputing that.
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I've never heard of anyone bricking off of using el29 rom with el26+cwm kernel. If there was an el29+cwm kernel it would be safe to use. I rarely even flash a rom unless I need to update prl and profile I simply mOdin el26+cwm and flash away. The only reason ppl brick is from using either an ics kernel with recovery, flashing a temp recovery over and ics kernel via rom manager, or in very few cases using a GB kernel with a rogue repack, and that's only because the recovery has been modified from it's original cwm roots. Show me a post where someone bricked by flashing off of el26+cwm kernel with either another release GB rom or an ICS rom over the el26 kernel and I'll agree with you. If you read all the OPs for flashing an ICS rom, particularly an AOSP variant they all say to just Odin the kernel and mention nothing about the rom, considering you don't boot to the rom 90% of the time to flash and the rom had absolutely nothing to do with recovery it isn't required, once you wipe the rom is gone anyways so why flash something to erase it anyways?
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Custom recovery

Hello everyone, I'm a new to the et4g , i just came from an evo 3d a few weeks ago. Right now I'm a running calks latest fd26 with the help of acs test recovery. I've been searching spool over the threads but can not find links for any of the custom recoveries. So what i would like to know is what do you think is the best recovery in your opinion and if you can drop links/point me in the right direction thanx!
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You should NOT be using custom recovery in ICS if you are not absolutely certain how it all works. I know that the Calk's 1.5 FD26 kernel came with one but if you use it incorrectly, you will have a very nice paperweight.
The only recovery that is recommended while on ICS is the STOCKCWM-EL26.TAR recovery that you can get here and it should be flashed from Odin:
http://chris41g.devphone.org/index.php?dir=EpicTouch/Stock+Repack/EL26/
Thank you, i have read that about it could cause many problems but wasn't sure which could be used
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Thank you, i have read that about it could cause many problems but wasn't sure which could be used
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If you were on Gingerbread it wouldn't matter. But, you're using ICS so it makes a huge difference.
Since you are on Calk's 1.5 like me, I will try to tell you how to use the built-in recovery as safely as possible with the FD26 kernel.
I use the recovery to backup or restore the FD26 rom only while I am using it! (Do NOT use it to flash another rom or restore a different version of Android, if you plan on going to a different rom, see below!) You can do other simple stuff that won't harm anything like wipe cache and davlik too.
If you plan on flashing a different kernel or modem, use ODIN:
If you plan on going to a different ROM, use ODIN to flash the EL26 stock recovery I gave you a link for.
Once you flash the EL26, you will no longer be able to boot into ICS, so be prepared and have the ROM you want to flash (with EL26) already downloaded to the phone. Always wipe manually or use Calkulin's 'format all' before flashing a rom.
If you are not certain about using the EL26 recovery or get stuck in some other way, just use this easy guide I wrote to bring you back to stock rooted with CWM recovery:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=24158551&postcount=9980
Edit: Corrected link posted above. Thanks.

EL26 vs EL29 Kernals

Is there a reason EL26 kernal is recommended more than EL29 kernal to flash from? With my phone, I seem to have less issues when I Odin back to stock EL29 and then use EL29 direct boot CWM to load roms. From what I have read, they are both safe, but just wanted to know why one seems to be recommended more often than the other.
byrdcfmma said:
Is there a reason EL26 kernal is recommended more than EL29 kernal to flash from? With my phone, I seem to have less issues when I Odin back to stock EL29 and then use EL29 direct boot CWM to load roms. From what I have read, they are both safe, but just wanted to know why one seems to be recommended more often than the other.
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This is only my opinion but maybe someone like Garwynn or someone that has the whole back story will chime in:
It's not just the kernel involved, it's the Recovery. When the emmc bug reared it's ugly head, we had el26 cwm (Chris41g) and an EL29 Rouge recovery. This was also when the build was going from GB to ICS. Bricks were happening with ICS builds with Rouge recoveries.
Unfortunately, and this is my opinion, everyone got used to saying "stay away from Rouge, etc etc" and people got used to saying el26 cwm is the safest.
Chris41g didn't do a el29 cwm. (If he did, it's not in the normal public places)
It has been said by Garwynn and others, after their many hours of testing and research, (you can find all the guts in the emmc thread) that GB recoveries are ok because of the write methods not causing the emmc bug to bite.
So in short, people are sticking to what they know as the general rule, which is el26 cwm.
Hope I made some since and please someone, correct my errors.
MoHoGalore said:
This is only my opinion but maybe someone like Garwynn or someone that has the whole back story will chime in:
It's not just the kernel involved, it's the Recovery. When the emmc bug reared it's ugly head, we had el26 cwm (Chris41g) and an EL29 Rouge recovery. This was also when the build was going from GB to ICS. Bricks were happening with ICS builds with Rouge recoveries.
Unfortunately, and this is my opinion, everyone got used to saying "stay away from Rouge, etc etc" and people got used to saying el26 cwm is the safest.
Chris41g didn't do a el29 cwm. (If he did, it's not in the normal public places)
It has been said by Garwynn and others, after their many hours of testing and research, (you can find all the guts in the emmc thread) that GB recoveries are ok because of the write methods not causing the emmc bug to bite.
So in short, people are sticking to what they know as the general rule, which is el26 cwm.
Hope I made some since and please someone, correct my errors.
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MoHo, That makes perfect sense from what I have read. I have only been doing this for about a month, but I am becoming a flash-aholic slowly but surely. I just wanted a little background on this and with the EL29 direct boot CWM5, it seems to get you to the same place to load your roms, CWM5.
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MoHo, That makes perfect sense from what I have read. I have only been doing this for about a month, but I am becoming a flash-aholic slowly but surely. I just wanted a little background on this and with the EL29 direct boot CWM5, it seems to get you to the same place to load your roms, CWM5.
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Here in a bit, I'll try and link the GB recovery comments i referenced.
Just please keep in mind, its better to error on the side of caution and take a few more mins.
:edit:This post basically summarizes what I was saying. Please take note of the second sentence of Sfhub's response.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=27191730&postcount=547
But, as always, use the OP's method (of whatever you're flashing) since that has been the basis for testing and recommendations.
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cwm or odin?
I've been flashing about everything and all has been fine so far. However, I always see mentioned that one should Odin el26. I always cwm el26 and reboot recovery before flashing/wiping. Is that ok?
As far as I know, EL29 is just as safe as EL26 for recovery.
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As far as I know, EL29 is just as safe as EL26 for recovery.
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yeah i don't get it - i've used EL29 lots of times with no problems and even the official flashing guide
http://e4gtcm.blogspot.com/p/tools.html has EL29 specified.
What does EL29 have that EL26 doesn't? If EL29 has nothing over EL26, whats the point of using EL29?
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What does EL29 have that EL26 doesn't? If EL29 has nothing over EL26, whats the point of using EL29?
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I personally like the Odin One-Click EL29 file to put it back to stock, then Mobile Odin EL29 direct boot CWM. This has worked for me everytime I have used it, so why mess up the program.
Plus, this way doesnt cause the yellow triangle either
I have always used EL29, no problems here. never used el26. Only reason I stuck with el29 because it was the lastest GB build. I think it was the issue with the touch recovery that people had issues with rogue recoveries. If you don't use that version (I believe it was pulled anyways), el29 rogue recovery works just fine.
I noticed Aosp type roms suggest to use el26. I've only been flashing TW roms, so I guess el29/26 is fine for that. If you're flashing aosp type roms, I suggest following the instructions in their OP, as they have proven methods of flashing their ROM.
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i myself use the EG4T-EL29-directbootCWM-v3 but as of lately been use [RECOVERY]TWRP 2.3.1.1 touch recovery [2012-10-16]
flashed between paranoid android cm and aokp miui with TWRP no problem; wouldnt use it to flash to GB obviously stick to EG4T-EL29-directbootCWM-v3
The EL29 kernel you are NOT supposed to use is EL29 repacked with rogue recovery. As long as you are using a gingerbread kernel with proper CWM5, it is safe.

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