Hey guys, and ladies, I'm a little stupefied at the moment due to the fact that every custom ROM I've used, Blazer3.9-4.1, CalkulinEL29, and FD19-24 ICS leak has actually made my e4gt run a little slower and less "smooth" during scrolling and animations. I know that these numbers don't ACTUALLY matter but also my Quadrant and Antutu benchmarks always drop when I'm not on stock, even if I'm overclocking, the only exception was FD19 which boosted Antutu to 6400+.
For example, Blazer 4.1, which I love, is benched at 2400-2800 on Antutu VS stock of 3500-3700; Calkulin EL29 got 3100-3300 on Antutu VS stock of 3500-3700. Is it just me or are these benchmarks just a complete hoax?
Whatever the case is I'm just looking for the fastest and most "stable" ROM available, like everyone else, so If you have a link to something where everything works, including 4G, I'd appreciate it very much.
I'm still fresh to this site so I'm having difficulty finding anything even with the great search menu, which I can't figure out how to use. lol.
IMO, the Unnamed rom was the best gingerbread rom ever released for this phone! AWSOME battery life, smokin fast, and everything works, including 4g .
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1386280&page=101
I would also reccomend using the desperado kernel for overclock of up to 1.7ghz! You can also underclock lower speeds for superb battery life. I don't have the link, but you can just search google and it should come up!
Thank you! ^^
mick3444 said:
IMO, the Unnamed rom was the best gingerbread rom ever released for this phone! AWSOME battery life, smokin fast, and everything works, including 4g .
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1386280&page=101
I would also reccomend using the desperado kernel for overclock of up to 1.7ghz! You can also underclock lower speeds for superb battery life. I don't have the link, but you can just search google and it should come up!
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That's what I'm talking about! ^^ Some good info for once on this forum, usually I get "noob" or "gtfo" like they were NEVER like me once upon a time.
I'm definitely going to look for that desperado kernel for sure because I'm NUTS about benchmarks..haha..
I've seen some dudes running 2.0Mhz or Ghz which ever is the right speed, like I care lol, and that doesn't even seem possible for a smartphone. I want that guys kernel or ROM or whatever!
So your phone is slow and lagging? If so that's not normal. I've never had a custom rom cause any real slow down or lagging.
Benchmarks are not very accurate most of the time, and especially on gingerbread where the hardware isn't properly utilized. All that matters is the real world performance.
Out of curiosity why are you worried about getting good bench scores? I would give AOKP based roms a try
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I'm kinda OCD about maintaining things..
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So your phone is slow and lagging? If so that's not normal. I've never had a custom rom cause any real slow down or lagging.
Benchmarks are not very accurate most of the time, and especially on gingerbread where the hardware isn't properly utilized. All that matters is the real world performance.
Out of curiosity why are you worried about getting good bench scores? I would give AOKP based roms a try
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I answered your question about the benchmarks in the post title. ^^
...and what I mean about "maintaining" is to keep it good or make it better.
I've been interested in the AOKP roms but I have no clue where to find them or what they would look like. Link?
You're working to maintain a placebo. Benchmarks mean virtually nothing. I've had Roms fly that you could only get low scores from. I've had ones that scored well but lagged and acted glitchy. Find a Rom that suits you when you use it. You can look to odex it to get an even smoother feel. Not sure what else to tell you.
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I answered your question about the benchmarks in the post title. ^^
...and what I mean about "maintaining" is to keep it good or make it better.
I've been interested in the AOKP roms but I have no clue where to find them or what they would look like. Link?
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Wow lol. You already answered your own question then.
The roms are right here in the development forum.
By the way you shouldn't be over clocking your phone if you don't understand the difference between megahertz and gigahertz or what that frequency means.
You should try reading the wiki or you're going to end up killing your nice $600 phone
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Nabbu said:
I answered your question about the benchmarks in the post title. ^^
...and what I mean about "maintaining" is to keep it good or make it better.
I've been interested in the AOKP roms but I have no clue where to find them or what they would look like. Link?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1514665
Here's a link to AOKP. To install, Odin the stock EL26, install CWM for EL26, and flash after wiping data. MAKE SURE YOU ONLY FLASH WITH EL26 CWM OR ELSE YOU'LL BRICK
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iniz94 said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1514665
Here's a link to AOKP. To install, Odin the stock EL26, install CWM for EL26, and flash after wiping data. MAKE SURE YOU ONLY FLASH WITH EL26 CWM OR ELSE YOU'LL BRICK
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I'm using AOKP right now and it's....AMAZING. O_O" THANK YOU!!
iniz94 said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1514665
Here's a link to AOKP. To install, Odin the stock EL26, install CWM for EL26, and flash after wiping data. MAKE SURE YOU ONLY FLASH WITH EL26 CWM OR ELSE YOU'LL BRICK
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You don't have to Odin the EL26 ROM, just the kernel.
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nitro_c4 said:
You don't have to Odin the EL26 ROM, just the kernel.
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If he's coming from GB, it's highly recommended to do a clean install. Plus he'll want to update PRL and Profile before and get a GPS lock
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iniz94 said:
If he's coming from GB, it's highly recommended to do a clean install. Plus he'll want to update PRL and Profile before and get a GPS lock
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El26 kernel will boot the el29 rom you only need el26 kernel for stock cwm you don't need the entire rom I mOdin el26 restore a base el29 rom with the bootimg removed update prl and profile boot back to el26+cwm and then flash aokp atleast once a day I do it that way cuz its what I have on my SD card and its quick and easy when I'm out and about and I only need to mOdin my kernel/recovery once. I used to flash an el29 rom and mOdin back to el26 but that requires reinstalling tibu to restore mOdin on el29 or else I have to redownload the flash kernel everytime which takes up time and wastes battery
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Ya kernels make a HUGE difference. I thought I hated Phantom Hackers blazer ROM because I was using gunslinger and it was SOOO laggy. Tried el26 and now it Flies! Battery life is not as good as gunslinger but I cant have my phone at all laggy! O ya Blazer ROM is Amazing by the way. If you haven't I would suggest checking it out. Also for speed and stability I would check out StrongSteves Odexed blue as well. Best Gingerbread roms out bar none!
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El26 kernel will boot the el29 rom you only need el26 kernel for stock cwm you don't need the entire rom I mOdin el26 restore a base el29 rom with the bootimg removed update prl and profile boot back to el26+cwm and then flash aokp atleast once a day I do it that way cuz its what I have on my SD card and its quick and easy when I'm out and about and I only need to mOdin my kernel/recovery once. I used to flash an el29 rom and mOdin back to el26 but that requires reinstalling tibu to restore mOdin on el29 or else I have to redownload the flash kernel everytime which takes up time and wastes battery
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Not saying your way doesn't work because I do the same thing, but Odining a new EL26 has a less chance of brick. I don't see how or why you are disputing that.
Another possible slowdown could be an app or apps. Its a pain to find which one it is. This has happened to me on many phones. If I don't use an app in a week, then its just taking up space. I used to do it where if I didn't use the app everyday, I'd uninstall it. I also go into /system/app and ".old" apks I don't need so they aren't running. If I find I knocked one out that another app relied on, I simply remove the .old and reboot. There's a lot of crap bloat on the phone.
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Not saying your way doesn't work because I do the same thing, but Odining a new EL26 has a less chance of brick. I don't see how or why you are disputing that.
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I've never heard of anyone bricking off of using el29 rom with el26+cwm kernel. If there was an el29+cwm kernel it would be safe to use. I rarely even flash a rom unless I need to update prl and profile I simply mOdin el26+cwm and flash away. The only reason ppl brick is from using either an ics kernel with recovery, flashing a temp recovery over and ics kernel via rom manager, or in very few cases using a GB kernel with a rogue repack, and that's only because the recovery has been modified from it's original cwm roots. Show me a post where someone bricked by flashing off of el26+cwm kernel with either another release GB rom or an ICS rom over the el26 kernel and I'll agree with you. If you read all the OPs for flashing an ICS rom, particularly an AOSP variant they all say to just Odin the kernel and mention nothing about the rom, considering you don't boot to the rom 90% of the time to flash and the rom had absolutely nothing to do with recovery it isn't required, once you wipe the rom is gone anyways so why flash something to erase it anyways?
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new to epic touch 4g...well actually its my friends....anyway i rooted it just fine...installed what i thought was the correct CWM...when i got into recovery it looked different than any other CWM ive ever used. Said team rogue or something. Thought i could try to flash in that recovery. Turns out i couldnt lol all flashes aborted. and then i was unable to boot up. Odin back to stock rooted. Which CWM is correct???
EDIT: also tried flashing CWM in rom manager. It boots me to the triangle and thats it
This works well http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1342728
Option C for Gingerbread or D for ICS
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new to epic touch 4g...well actually its my friends....anyway i rooted it just fine...installed what i thought was the correct CWM...when i got into recovery it looked different than any other CWM ive ever used. Said team rogue or something. Thought i could try to flash in that recovery. Turns out i couldnt lol all flashes aborted. and then i was unable to boot up. Odin back to stock rooted. Which CWM is correct???
EDIT: also tried flashing CWM in rom manager. It boots me to the triangle and thats it
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Yikes! OK, it all depends on what you are trying to flash. Rogue works great for Gingerbread builds. The Epic Touch has recovery built into the kernel, so you can't really just mix and match. You have to have the kernel with the recovery in it. Read up about which rom you are trying to install before doing anything. The AOSP stuff requires you use the el26 "Stock" CWM. Stock refers to it is an unmodified ClocckworkMod, unlike Rogue. There is also a thread about how to not brick your e4gt, I highly recommend you read that as well. Of course, I've learned that doing anything with anyones phone other than your own will often end in disaster as well lol "Dude, why doesn't blah blah blah work?" Usually a quick fix for those in the know, but if the person can't do it themselves, they just get frustrated and mad at the @$$hole that messed up their phone lol Good luck
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Of course, I've learned that doing anything with anyones phone other than your own will often end in disaster as well lol "Dude, why doesn't blah blah blah work?" Usually a quick fix for those in the know, but if the person can't do it themselves, they just get frustrated and mad at the @$$hole that messed up their phone lol Good luck
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This goes DOUBLE for spouses, TRIPLE if they're not tech savvy. (Personal experience)
garwynn said:
This goes DOUBLE for spouses, TRIPLE if they're not tech savvy. (Personal experience)
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Absolutely! Rooted my wife's evo and put CM7 on it a while ago, learned that lesson very quickly! No matter how much you try to warn them that some things might be a bit weird or might not work, they always be shocked if anything isn't exactly the way they had it before. She has an iphone now ... and I refuse to learn how to jailbreak it
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Yikes! OK, it all depends on what you are trying to flash. Rogue works great for Gingerbread builds. The Epic Touch has recovery built into the kernel, so you can't really just mix and match. You have to have the kernel with the recovery in it. Read up about which rom you are trying to install before doing anything. The AOSP stuff requires you use the el26 "Stock" CWM. Stock refers to it is an unmodified ClocckworkMod, unlike Rogue. There is also a thread about how to not brick your e4gt, I highly recommend you read that as well. Of course, I've learned that doing anything with anyones phone other than your own will often end in disaster as well lol "Dude, why doesn't blah blah blah work?" Usually a quick fix for those in the know, but if the person can't do it themselves, they just get frustrated and mad at the @$$hole that messed up their phone lol Good luck
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I GOT IT!! lol I had to revert back to el26...nevertheless i was able to boot into the ACTUAL cwm after flashing another file through this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1342728...just installed cyanogenmod on his thank you very much you guys. much appreciated...didnt want to pay my friend money for his epic lol considering the money i just dropped on my Gnexus
I'm new to the rooting game as well for the EG4T. The Rogue part sounds right, it most likely had more to do with the version you used. I made the same mistake once.
My best tip would be to use QBKing77's tutorial videos and follow them step-by-step....he has one for pretty much any situation and explains things very well. They are a lifesaver. Also, since it's your friend's phone, maybe stick to GB ROMs as they seem to require the fewest tweaks and have the least FCs. If you absolutely have to have ICS, my choice on ROM would be Venum's Anaconda ROM, which was just released yesterday. It is nothing short of brilliant. However, once you go to ICS, I believe you need to start from scratch (stock) if you want to go back to GB. I hear it's a big no-no to try and recover GB from an ICS ROM (most likely what you did). Best of luck.
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I'm new to the rooting game as well for the EG4T. The Rogue part sounds right, it most likely had more to do with the version you used. I made the same mistake once.
My best tip would be to use QBKing77's tutorial videos and follow them step-by-step....he has one for pretty much any situation and explains things very well. They are a lifesaver. Also, since it's your friend's phone, maybe stick to GB ROMs as they seem to require the fewest tweaks and have the least FCs. If you absolutely have to have ICS, my choice on ROM would be Venum's Anaconda ROM, which was just released yesterday. It is nothing short of brilliant. However, once you go to ICS, I believe you need to start from scratch (stock) if you want to go back to GB. I hear it's a big no-no to try and recover GB from an ICS ROM (most likely what you did). Best of luck.
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lol i cant believe how much more effort goes into switching a rom on this phone is compared to a nexus...its just flash and go on the nexus. i successfully flashed CM9 alpha 2 but he requested an OC kernel. im on cm9 alpha 2 on EL26...can i just flash anaconda over this with wipe? and what kernel is suggested? thanks guys u have made my day
Specialksg1 said:
Absolutely! Rooted my wife's evo and put CM7 on it a while ago, learned that lesson very quickly! No matter how much you try to warn them that some things might be a bit weird or might not work, they always be shocked if anything isn't exactly the way they had it before. She has an iphone now ... and I refuse to learn how to jailbreak it
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I learned the same thing when the Optimus S had a firmware update - it was later pulled but the damage was done. So I did what I could - found a stable tweaked ROM and put it on there. I've always believed in wiping the phone before flashing - BIG MISTAKE. "Where's my messages? Where's my files?"
Funny thing about this is that they fixed the last FW update with another one that rolls out today. I know I'm going to have to flash this one but I'll be using TB to back up what I can before I flash it. Also have to figure out how to save her SMS, that's the #1 thing that will avoid a mad wife!
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lol i cant believe how much more effort goes into switching a rom on this phone is compared to a nexus...its just flash and go on the nexus. i successfully flashed CM9 alpha 2 but he requested an OC kernel. im on cm9 alpha 2 on EL26...can i just flash anaconda over this with wipe? and what kernel is suggested? thanks guys u have made my day
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There aren't any kernels that overclock for ICS yet. I am not sure on this but the paid Tegrak Ultimate app allows overclocking of stock kernels we have but I haven't tried it on CM9 yet.
Once we get the ICS kernel source, things will be a lot easier when it comes to flashing. I understand where you are coming from with the Nexus though. I basically wipe everything on my NS4G then flash the Euroskank CM9 nightly and all of my apps install automatically. We don't have it that easy on the Epic Touch but once we have a kernel built from source we will be able to wipe and flash without fear of any residual issues
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There aren't any kernels that overclock for ICS yet. I am not sure on this but the paid Tegrak Ultimate app allows overclocking of stock kernels we have but I haven't tried it on CM9 yet.
Once we get the ICS kernel source, things will be a lot easier when it comes to flashing. I understand where you are coming from with the Nexus though. I basically wipe everything on my NS4G then flash the Euroskank CM9 nightly and all of my apps install automatically. We don't have it that easy on the Epic Touch but once we have a kernel built from source we will be able to wipe and flash without fear of any residual issues
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gotcha thanks man. Since i have u right here...when i try to reboot into recovery it always takes me to stock recovery...i definitely flashed CWM correctly about an hour ago because i successfully flashed CM9...now it seems to be gone. I went to rom manager and tried flashing CWM again...but no luck. I want to install Anaconda for him and i cant! lol
JohnCorleone said:
There aren't any kernels that overclock for ICS yet. I am not sure on this but the paid Tegrak Ultimate app allows overclocking of stock kernels we have but I haven't tried it on CM9 yet.
Once we get the ICS kernel source, things will be a lot easier when it comes to flashing. I understand where you are coming from with the Nexus though. I basically wipe everything on my NS4G then flash the Euroskank CM9 nightly and all of my apps install automatically. We don't have it that easy on the Epic Touch but once we have a kernel built from source we will be able to wipe and flash without fear of any residual issues
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That's one of the things I like about the cm9 builds lately. I did a fresh install of fd02 just to check it out and when I came back to cm9 it pulls in my setup I had before, right down to changing my wallpaper for me. No backups needed. I still have to go in and put in my username and passwords on some of them and I lose my Cut the Rope game data (Oh darn!!), but I love that my apps from the play store(calling the market the "play store" makes me feel dirty lol) automatically install.
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gotcha thanks man. Since i have u right here...when i try to reboot into recovery it always takes me to stock recovery...i definitely flashed CWM correctly about an hour ago because i successfully flashed CM9...now it seems to be gone. I went to rom manager and tried flashing CWM again...but no luck. I want to install Anaconda for him and i cant! lol
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OK, first things first. I will suggest you read a lot more before doing anything based on what I bolded above.
ROM Manager is generally discouraged and can cause a brick. Read more here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=24318861&postcount=2
Hopefully you got to this in time.
Good luck and once again, please do not be afraid to ask questions before you do something. It's easier than taking your friend's phone to Sprint because it bricked.
Final Edit: Sorry if I'm coming off a little harsh, but there are MANY posts out there - far longer than the ICS brick issues - that have said ROM Manager is a no-no.
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gotcha thanks man. Since i have u right here...when i try to reboot into recovery it always takes me to stock recovery...i definitely flashed CWM correctly about an hour ago because i successfully flashed CM9...now it seems to be gone. I went to rom manager and tried flashing CWM again...but no luck. I want to install Anaconda for him and i cant! lol
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Like I said earlier, the recoveries are built into the kernel. Get the files you want to flash onto the sd card, then odin the el26 kernel. Before it reboots (ICS won't boot on a gb kernel, so you'll just boot loop anyway), go back into recovery and flash away.
Just whatever you do....dont flash with any Rogue ICS recovery, the source isnt avalable yet so its kinda like playing darts with a blindfold on and your friends are all drunk and not paying attention to whats going on around them.
Personally, I keep Rogue Stock EL29 (Odin version) on my sdcard and just use mobile odin to revert back to that when I need to flash (someone please let me know if this method is a bad one, so far it has worked fine though).
I haven't read up much on it, but I would avoid doing backups and restores of ICS roms via recovery until ICS is finalized (regardless of the recovery your using).
If you wanna play it safe, just stick with an EL29 rom until a final version of ICS is released, frankly I prefer stability over fancy new features and just like to test out the ICS leak for a little before odin'ing back to Rogue EL29 and restoring my gingerbread backup...it quite cool to watch the offical ICS mature and get fixed.
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Just whatever you do....dont flash with any Rogue ICS recovery, the source isnt avalable yet so its kinda like playing darts with a blindfold on and your friends are all drunk and not paying attention to whats going on around them.
Personally, I keep Rogue Stock EL29 (Odin version) on my sdcard and just use mobile odin to revert back to that when I need to flash (someone please let me know if this method is a bad one, so far it has worked fine though).
I haven't read up much on it, but I would avoid doing backups and restores of ICS roms via recovery until ICS is finalized (regardless of the recovery your using).
If you wanna play it safe, just stick with an EL29 rom until a final version of ICS is released, frankly I prefer stability over fancy new features and just like to test out the ICS leak for a little before odin'ing back to Rogue EL29 and restoring my gingerbread backup...it quite cool to watch the offical ICS mature and get fixed.
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I'd probably go with el26 just because it's "stock" CWM and the devs are big on that recomendation.
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I'd probably go with el26 just because it's "stock" CWM and the devs are big on that recomendation.
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so just do the same odin restore back to stock el26 rooted...then it should autoboot into CWM and then flash anaconda...geesh lol
v2.2v said:
so just do the same odin restore back to stock el26 rooted...then it should autoboot into CWM and then flash anaconda...geesh lol
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Don't have to do the whole odin restore. Just the kernel. Won't autoboot. Have to hold vol + and power. Like JC said, this will all become much simpler once we have sauce
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Don't have to do the whole odin restore. Just the kernel. Won't autoboot. Have to hold vol + and power. Like JC said, this will all become much simpler once we have sauce
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got it lol thanks a million man...seriously
Thanks for picking me up there guys!
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first time I flashed aokp it was all gravy until I tried to boot into recovery, I got the Android System Recovery. I got scared and I read around and ended up odin'ing back to stock and flashing another rom.
I really like aokp so I wanted to try it again. I made very sure I followed the directions, I did not flash from an ICS recovery. I try booting into recovery to see if it worked this time and sure enough, there is android system recovery again, what am I doing wrong?
I searched for this too and saw that someone said to reinstall the packages and reboot, and do it again or something like that and it would boot into CWM, but that was for a different phone so I wasnt gonna try that.
Can I just run the eg4tauto.zip and isntall el26 with cwm to get recovery back and be good, or do I need to odin?
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
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first time I flashed aokp it was all gravy until I tried to boot into recovery, I got the Android System Recovery. I got scared and I read around and ended up odin'ing back to stock and flashing another rom.
You need to read the OP in the thread.
I really like aokp so I wanted to try it again. I made very sure I followed the directions, I did not flash from an ICS recovery. I try booting into recovery to see if it worked this time and sure enough, there is android system recovery again, what am I doing wrong?
I searched for this too and saw that someone said to reinstall the packages and reboot, and do it again or something like that and it would boot into CWM, but that was for a different phone so I wasnt gonna try that.
Can I just run the eg4tauto.zip and isntall el26 with cwm to get recovery back and be good, or do I need to odin?
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
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There is no cwm on aokp codename etc for a reason ....to stop people from bring stupid and bricking ....don't use a ics kernel with cwm for anything .... Use el26 to flash any ROM u need and when you want to go to another use mobile Odin or regular Odin to flash el26 kernel again and boot into cwm .... El26 is a GB kernel and won't boot a ics ROM ....then you can flash anything GB or ics
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thanks for your response, but I think I am more confused, I was trying to flash a different modem. when I am not connected to 4g, my data is terrible, with 4g, I am all good. I was going to try a different modem. In the OP, for modems it says this:
Modems
FC18 Modem: DOWNLOAD
Flash through Stock CWM Recovery OR pull the modem.bin out of the .zip file and flash in the Phone option in Odin(mobile Odin doesnt flash modem)
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You probably should flash back to a touch wiz ROM.....you can Odin the el29 tar or one click from sfhub .
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1433101
you can Odin the modem and then update profile and prl in tw then you can flash the el26 cwm http://www.mediafire.com/?hkydca9ob98z89m
and go back to aokp or codename etc
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sorry if this is a dumb questions, but what if I get stuck in a boot loop and I have no recovery? just go into download mode and odin my way out?
one other thing, I started flashing ics roms with venum ice and flashed to mijjz ics and caulks and others and never had a problem, was I just lucky so far? I don't recall mijjz or venum's installation instructions saying I needed to odin back to stock before flashing. Sorry for the noob questions, but I've read a bunch and just trying to piece it all together. I read so I don't brick, but then I end up with more questions.
I'm also wondering about this I've spent a good deal of time trying to put the time line of the et4g together and I think I got most of it....just got my shiny white et4g two days ago my wife has had hers. for about 4 mo. shes much less fearless when it comes to flashing on this phone. (however shes settled in on build 27 of aokp, and I doubts shes gonna be flashing anytime too soon.) I'm coming over from my NS4G which always had clear cut rules to flashing! CWM all day. The only thing(s) I ever had to watch for was is it aosp, or not? An do I do a wipe or not? (I got in the habit of wiping just to be safe, and man I flash with the best of them! At least 2 times a week)
OK, OK sorry about the ramblings of my history my real questions are:
A) So Im sitting on alpha 2 of CM9 (nice piece of work I must Say) I made sure I was in the green, and had everything lined up to flash this one! went smooth of course. It wasn't until after my flash that I tried to make a nandroid....I get why theres no clockwork! but I'm totally clueless on how to back up with out it, or if you even can make one with stock recovery?
Can I keep CM9, and flash a kernel with rouge recovery to the make a nandroid? Or is there another way to go about this (I like to make nandroid often as a easy way to restore data after I play around with stuff and brake Wifi or what have you, and scrap unneeded back ups as I find out what I can and cant do with MY phone.)
I really really love Cryogen 9 (yeah its not as far along as I would like it to be ex- cm7 for the ns4g or kangs aokp builds) But there a team I'm familiar with. An I like there stuff, but I'm really nerves about where I go from here if/when i decide to change to something else.What are the guide lines for flashing from cm9 to say another ICS build? and is CM9 compatible with other kernels or only the one that is came packed with?
B) can someone straight up make a new clean thread with proper flashing tech. and no filler or out dated info then the have a mod stick it and close it>>>>simplify this for those of us that know what were doing....until things go funk for some reason, or another and that leaves ,us we are completely lost!
Well after wrighting my first novel (joke haha) I would like to thank everyone thats put up there time and money to make phones OURS and more powerful then what hit the shelfs an allowing me to get the most customized electronic device I have ever seen with the exception of my PC. Clapping
If you want to backup your system with the stock cm9a2 kernel, just mobile odin/odin el26 kernel/recovery, boot into cwm, flash stock cm9a2 kernel, now while still in cwm do a nand backup. That way it will be a full backup.
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I know I'm a little late, but there is CWM for the AOKP rom. The FC07 BootImg on the e4gtuato.zip file worked fine for me on the older version which was based off of FC15.
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I know I'm a little late, but there is CWM for the AOKP rom. The FC07 BootImg on the e4gtuato.zip file worked fine for me on the older version which was based off of FC15.
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I would try that, but these folks have me scurred about using cwm within aokp. I have flashed between caulks ics/venum ice, anakonda/mijjz goodness,xplod mini and a couple other ICS roms all from cwm with absolutely no issues so far.
I am thoroughly confused right now. I am on aokp build 28 with a few significant issues and not sure what what direction to go next. I know how to get out of aokp safely now, but not sure which rom i want to go to, little issues with each that I dont know how to fix yet.
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I would try that, but these folks have me scurred about using cwm within aokp. I have flashed between caulks ics/venum ice, anakonda/mijjz goodness,xplod mini and a couple other ICS roms all from cwm with absolutely no issues so far.
I am thoroughly confused right now. I am on aokp build 28 with a few significant issues and not sure what what direction to go next. I know how to get out of aokp safely now, but not sure which rom i want to go to, little issues with each that I dont know how to fix yet.
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Read this thread it happens when using ics kernel with cwm .and then tell us u want to use cwm with a ics kernel.....it bricks phones please read it and understand
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1525495
That's why people are using Odin to get el26 GB on their phones to flash with
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I would try that, but these folks have me scurred about using cwm within aokp. I have flashed between caulks ics/venum ice, anakonda/mijjz goodness,xplod mini and a couple other ICS roms all from cwm with absolutely no issues so far.
I am thoroughly confused right now. I am on aokp build 28 with a few significant issues and not sure what what direction to go next. I know how to get out of aokp safely now, but not sure which rom i want to go to, little issues with each that I dont know how to fix yet.
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If you have been having luck thats fine but I can not see how you have not noticed int eh OP of the ICS roms and the OP of the recoveries it gives you instructions on what to do and what not to do. Also there are quite a few threads in here about the horror stories of the now infamous blue light of death. Once again if you have escaped this then maybe you should tell us your secret to success. Honestly the few extra steps it takes to ensure your phone stays your phone is well worth it.
Like Epix has posted please read up a little just incase something happens to you or anyone else who claims no problems so you know how to help yourself. Hopefully we wont have to see a I Think I just bricked my Phone thread from you.
Odin EL26 CWM and basically everything else stays the same after that... except you would need to either reflash the ICS rom you are using or have a copy of the kernel readily available
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Read this thread it happens when using ics kernel with cwm .and then tell us u want to use cwm with a ics kernel.....it bricks phones please read it and understand
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1525495
That's why people are using Odin to get el26 GB on their phones to flash with
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I've read that, hence the reason for my posts. I am not going to load cwm and start flashing away. From aokp, I will odin back to GB before I flash any new ICS roms. I also won't be flashing between other ICS roms, even ones I have done before with no problems. I odin every time now, but it is putting a serious damper on my flashing addiction.
I could flash 3 roms in the time it takes me to odin back to GB, lol!
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I've read that, hence the reason for my posts. I am not going to load cwm and start flashing away. From aokp, I will odin back to GB before I flash any new ICS roms. I also won't be flashing between other ICS roms, even ones I have done before with no problems. I odin every time now, but it is putting a serious damper on my flashing addiction.
I could flash 3 roms in the time it takes me to odin back to GB, lol!
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I don't Odin to stock all the time I mobile Odin the el26 cwm kernel and then boot strait into recovery as the GB kernel won't boot the ics ROM and then I flash from there but I also u caulks format all too ....
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I don't Odin to stock all the time I mobile Odin the el26 cwm kernel and then boot strait into recovery as the GB kernel won't boot the ics ROM and then I flash from there but I also u caulks format all too ....
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Thus is what I used to do at first myself I would flash the CWM kernel then just nandroid back my old rom and keep it moving. It just basically seems that as long as you do everything in a GB kernel based recovery as long as it is not the Touch recovery you should be OK
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I am gonna look into mobile Odin so i don't have to be sitting at a PC to do work. So if I go back to gb and get my modem biz straightened out then flash an ics rom, my modem changes will stick?
It seems like this issue is isolated to sprint only, right? Much buddy on att is flashing ics over ics like crazy. And he said he hasn't seen anything like this over there.
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I've only used the ICS recovery on AOKP to change modems and flash GB roms because it probably wouldn't work too well with other ICS roms.
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I am gonna look into mobile Odin so i don't have to be sitting at a PC to do work. So if I go back to gb and get my modem biz straightened out then flash an ics rom, my modem changes will stick?
It seems like this issue is isolated to sprint only, right? Much buddy on att is flashing ics over ics like crazy. And he said he hasn't seen anything like this over there.
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UPDATE: It seems that using recovery on Touchwiz-based ICS roms (like Blend ICS) is safe but it is much more dangerous on roms built from stock (like CM9). Your buddy must be using roms based off of leaked builds and not stock AOSP.
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If you flashed back to Gingerbread to change your modems and installed an Ice Cream Sandwich rom over it the modem should stay.
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I've only used the ICS recovery on AOKP to change modems and flash GB roms because it probably wouldn't work too well with other ICS roms.
UPDATE: It seems that using recovery on Touchwiz-based ICS roms (like Blend ICS) is safe but it is much more dangerous on roms built from stock (like CM9). Your buddy must be using roms based off of leaked builds and not stock AOSP.
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It has nothing to do with that it's the ics kernel and aosp and tw is using the same kernel but with minor changed , because there is no source released there can't be a built from source aosp kernel ....there is no safe ics kernel with cwm when source is released they will fix it, but the note has the same problem
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It has nothing to do with that it's the ics kernel and aosp and tw is using the same kernel but with minor changed , because there is no source released there can't be a built from source aosp kernel ....there is no safe ics kernel with cwm when source is released they will fix it, but the note has the same problem
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The recovery that came with Blend ICS worked fine for me though. Trying to flash using recoveries on other ICS roms gave me soft bricks. Would you have any idea how Blend worked for me?
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The recovery that came with Blend ICS worked fine for me though. Trying to flash using recoveries on other ICS roms gave me soft bricks. Would you have any idea how Blend worked for me?
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It is the same recovery and soft bricks ate usually from not wiping right....but use that kernel with cwm and wipe data and your risking a b.l.o.d. It doesn't take much ....the thing is Samsung changed a couple things with how the data partition is handled and they also changed a couple other partitions and sfhub said he thinks it writes over two of the partitions at the same time when wiping and makes both unusable creating a brick
... writers thing is it damages the emmc somehow and makes it even impossible to jtag it .... Which should really never happen
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Epix4G said:
It is the same recovery and soft bricks ate usually from not wiping right....but use that kernel with cwm and wipe data and your risking a b.l.o.d. It doesn't take much ....the thing is Samsung changed a couple things with how the data partition is handled and they also changed a couple other partitions and sfhub said he thinks it writes over two of the partitions at the same time when wiping and makes both unusable creating a brick
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So the best thing I guess would be to just to avoid ICS recoveries all around.
Is ics worth people bricking there phone,then going to different phone because there mad?
My brother has ICS and he loves it but I'm not taking the chance of bricking phone.....i keep seeing alota people who bricked there phone.
But is anyone sticking with GB and making more Roms and themes.
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Well as far as sticking with GB development despite working on an ICS rom, sfhub released an update to his GB rom as well.
But if you odin over a stock ics rom and don't do anything stupid you should be pretty safe from bricking. Obviously usual risks for writing firmware to a device apply. Custom rom's should be flashed from GB instead of ICS CWM. Though I have had no issues flashing from ICS, taking risks that you were told not to take is your own fault.
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Well as far as sticking with GB development despite working on an ICS rom, sfhub released an update to his GB rom as well.
But if you odin over a stock ics rom and don't do anything stupid you should be pretty safe from bricking. Obviously usual risks for writing firmware to a device apply. Custom rom's should be flashed from GB instead of ICS CWM. Though I have had no issues flashing from ICS, taking risks that you were told not to take is your own fault.
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Well i know....but I can't take that chance so I'm sticking with gb till its safe lol,but it seems like no one else is making any new roms or atleast themes for GB
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ScubaSteev said:
Well i know....but I can't take that chance so I'm sticking with gb till its safe lol,but it seems like no one else is making any new roms or atleast themes for GB
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Using the 1-click ODIN method to flash an official leaked build of ICS is perfectly safe. Bricking happens when you use a recovery to wipe data and/or caches. Something about the new ICS kernel not being fully compatible with the current recoveries or something. As long as you don't mess with a custom recovery and just ODIN the stock leaked ROM, Kernel, and Recovery, you will not brick the phone. Until Samsung releases the kernel source, stay away from CWM or anything else that's not stock. Let me reiterate this point: stock Samsung leaks flashed via ODIN are safe. Do not touch any CWM/Kernel repacks or flash anything (other than stock leaks) via ODIN or otherwise until Samsung releases the kernel source.
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Using the 1-click ODIN method to flash an official leaked build of ICS is perfectly safe. Bricking happens when you use a recovery to wipe data and/or caches. Something about the new ICS kernel not being fully compatible with the current recoveries or something. As long as you don't mess with a custom recovery and just ODIN the stock leaked ROM, Kernel, and Recovery, you will not brick the phone. Until Samsung releases the kernel source, stay away from CWM or anything else that's not stock. Let me reiterate this point: stock Samsung leaks flashed via ODIN are safe. Do not touch any CWM/Kernel repacks or flash anything (other than stock leaks) via ODIN or otherwise until Samsung releases the kernel source.
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Well i might try it.....i don't have a computer though so i still wont beable to try ics
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I've flash a ROM through an ICS Rogue Recovery several times, I just use Calkunlin's format-all ZIP.
I think most of the bricks happened with people flashing over AOKP/CM9/Codename through CWM. I've only flashed TW leaked based ROMs and had no issues, but of course ODIN would be the safest way to go about flashing ICS. All the ICS I flashed were from Rujelus22 (beta's) and FD05 from Agat63 (last night but for a little bit, then format all and flashed back to the previous ICS ROM).
You could always just revert to GB through ODIN, and flash an ICS ROM that way. ICS is great, but if GB is working perfectly fine for you and you don't mind waiting, I say stay on it.
As the poster above stated most bricks happen when coming from CM9/AOKP/AOSP/Codename. I've flashed through fb21 rogue repacked kernel multiple times. I just stay with the leaks(Blend ICS, Blend ICS XPLOD, Venums Anakonda, and Calkulins E4GT 2 ROMs). They work great and I really haven't had any bad experiences with them. I use stock(no cwm) kernels and mobile odin back to fb21 repack to flash new ROMS. I'm a flashaholic and flash back and forth when new versions come out.
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Well when i get a laptop ill have to try it out
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Pick up mobile odin, you can flash sfhub's one-click packages but you'll have to do the modem separately.
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Pick up mobile odin, you can flash sfhub's one-click packages but you'll have to do the modem separately.
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There is that and a good program it is but he can also flash from cwm on gingerbread if he has a kernel installed and id find that preferable. Of course if not can always flash a rogue kernel using mobile odin.
Remember don't use touch recovery!
quick questions can i restore a GB backup on ICS or should i odin back to EL29?
Odin
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quick questions can i restore a GB backup on ICS or should i odin back to EL29?
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ODIN only. Don't even think about restoring a GB backup on ICS.
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Mark.J.Linskiy said:
I've flash a ROM through an ICS Rogue Recovery several times, I just use Calkunlin's format-all ZIP.
I think most of the bricks happened with people flashing over AOKP/CM9/Codename through CWM. I've only flashed TW leaked based ROMs and had no issues, but of course ODIN would be the safest way to go about flashing ICS. All the ICS I flashed were from Rujelus22 (beta's) and FD05 from Agat63 (last night but for a little bit, then format all and flashed back to the previous ICS ROM).
You could always just revert to GB through ODIN, and flash an ICS ROM that way. ICS is great, but if GB is working perfectly fine for you and you don't mind waiting, I say stay on it.
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I don't think the bricks have anything to do with AOKP/CM9, etc but rather formatting caches from within a GB recovery packed with an ICS kernel. Calk's format-all zip may be a safe way to do it, but from what I've read, it was the format process through recovery that caused the MMC chip failure. And even the AOKP instructions specifically say to flash from GB kernel/recovery because doing it from an ICS kernel/recovery can brick the phone. It's the ICS kernel at fault here, but we're not going to know specifically why until the source is released. Until then, I'd recommend not messing with repacked ICS kernels.
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ODIN only. Don't even think about restoring a GB backup on ICS.
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I don't think the bricks have anything to do with AOKP/CM9, etc but rather formatting caches from within a GB recovery packed with an ICS kernel. Calk's format-all zip may be a safe way to do it, but from what I've read, it was the format process through recovery that caused the MMC chip failure. And even the AOKP instructions specifically say to flash from GB kernel/recovery because doing it from an ICS kernel/recovery can brick the phone. It's the ICS kernel at fault here, but we're not going to know specifically why until the source is released. Until then, I'd recommend not messing with repacked ICS kernels.
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Most of the bricks were caused by people flashing over AOPK/CM9/etc, I know it has to do with the Kernel as well but I'm saying that chances are much higher if you're flashing over those ROMs. Thing is, to flash a TW ICS leaked based ROM, I only use Calkulin's format all, but I've also flashed Kernels/Modems through the Rogue repacked after wiping dalvik/cache and haven't had an issue. I know for sure that formatting manually before a ROM flash will probably cause a brick as well and flashing the AOSP based ROMs in an ICS recovery will most likely do the same. Either way, Odin is the safest and best way, especially if some is hesitant.
Hope you don't take it as me being a jerk or anything, just saying it how I know it, even though I may be wrong.
Mark.J.Linskiy said:
Most of the bricks were caused by people flashing over AOPK/CM9/etc, I know it has to do with the Kernel as well but I'm saying that chances are much higher if you're flashing over those ROMs. Thing is, to flash a TW ICS leaked based ROM, I only use Calkulin's format all, but I've also flashed Kernels/Modems through the Rogue repacked after wiping dalvik/cache and haven't had an issue. I know for sure that formatting manually before a ROM flash will probably cause a brick as well and flashing the AOSP based ROMs in an ICS recovery will most likely do the same. Either way, Odin is the safest and best way, especially if some is hesitant.
Hope you don't take it as me being a jerk or anything, just saying it how I know it, even though I may be wrong.
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No, I don't think you are being a jerk at all, and I'm trying to learn something along the way as well. We are both simply trying to prevent another bricked device, I just tend to be extremely cautious, perhaps even unnecessarily cautious. But I came here from an Evo 4G that was bricked by a bad recovery (Team Win Recovery Project touch recovery killed quite a few Evos), so I only use the absolute safest method possible for myself, which is ODIN and stock leaks. I will go back to CWM once the source is released and we know what's actually going on.
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No, I don't think you are being a jerk at all, and I'm trying to learn something along the way as well. We are both simply trying to prevent another bricked device, I just tend to be extremely cautious, perhaps even unnecessarily cautious. But I came here from an Evo 4G that was bricked by a bad recovery (Team Win Recovery Project touch recovery killed quite a few Evos), so I only use the absolute safest method possible for myself, which is ODIN and stock leaks. I will go back to CWM once the source is released and we know what's actually going on.
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Yeah, I completely understand. I didn't touch a single ICS ROM until I was asked to do some testing, and even when updated the Beta I would Odin back to GB then flash it. The developer told me he had no issues with flashing the format ZIP and flashing his Betas so I tried it and no issues. It's always good to stay cautious, and there's absolutely nothing wrong with what you're doing, since after-all, it is your personal device. I recommend people use Odin as well, especially for those who aren't completely sure what they're doing. Makes perfect sense for staying away from CWM until the source is out.
All so understandable......better to have more people then less people asking question.s and giving answers....its helping me alot
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All so understandable......better to have more people then less people asking question.s and giving answers....its helping me alot
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Yup, that's what makes it a good community. Glad it's helping you out, and if you decide to flash, good luck!
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Yup, that's what makes it a good community. Glad it's helping you out, and if you decide to flash, good luck!
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Ima try to learn a little more then flash....thanks for all info guys/gals
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I've been on ICS roms for about a month (Calkulin's with ICS4ICS theme) and I have to admit that the battery life is absolutely horrible compared to GB roms
I've read through most of these threads an I'm pretty sure there is no CWM for ICS for the Epic 4G Touch. Is this correct?
I have the s2 for tmobile and it is practically unbrickable compared to this phone. My friend has the Epic and I installed ICS AOKP. It is way more difficult on his phone. I don't understand why it is so different. Given, we have different hardware, but neither one of us have the source for ICS or kernel. But I do have the same CWM no matter what rom I'm on.
1. Is it possible to have CWM on the Epic 4G Touch?
2. His ext_sdcard is not showing up. How to I make it work? I tried DirectoryBind to no avail. Maybe I'm doing something wrong.
3. Can i flash zips in ICS recovery? Ive never seen the recovery it put me in before.
4. Am I missing something?
I was under time costraints when helping him out and honestly I'm just happy i got AOKP running on his phone without any issues.
I appreciate all the work everyone has done so please don't take anything I said the wrong way.
Thanks in advance an i look firward to hearing from anyone...
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We need ICS kernel source before we can have a proper CWM kernel for ICS.
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We had CWM on ICS for a little bit, but it was causinga ton of bricks because the partitions are handled differently in ICS. I wouldn't attempt to flash anything in ICS recovery because you risk bricking the device. We likely won't have CWM for it until kernel source drops.
If you need to flash something, the best way to do it is to Odin back to EL26, install CWM, and flash everything (ROM, kernel, modem etc.) in one recovery session. Most of the threads for AOSP ICS roms have specific flashing instructions in the first post.
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We had CWM on ICS for a little bit, but it was causinga ton of bricks because the partitions are handled differently in ICS. I wouldn't attempt to flash anything in ICS recovery because you risk bricking the device. We likely won't have CWM for it until kernel source drops.
If you need to flash something, the best way to do it is to Odin back to EL26, install CWM, and flash everything (ROM, kernel, modem etc.) in one recovery session. Most of the threads for AOSP ICS roms have specific flashing instructions in the first post.
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Thanks for the info. I guess I'm spoiled on my T989! We dont have source either. We didnt even have a proper leak til yesterday, but ICS runs great because our devs are ridiculous.
I have him running FD26 so I will flash back el26 for the mods. I left his baseband alone and it seems to be running fine.
Thanks again. I appreciate the help
Edit: One more thing. I need to reset the flash counter and remove the yellow triangle every time i go back to cwm right?
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You don't need to remove it, it's really just personal preference and if it makes you happy you can, lol.
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You don't need to remove it, it's really just personal preference and if it makes you happy you can, lol.
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Lol! Its just so ugly. I wish there was a kernel for the Epic that had a cool bootanimation. My friend saw my. Darkside kernel boot and wants it now. He doesn't understand because he thinks our phones are identical.
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Look here guys http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=25659129#post25659129
I noticed the repacked kernel might not work with AOSP though. I think that I will flash him back to GB until source is released. I don't want want him to accidentally brick.
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I noticed the repacked kernel might not work with AOSP though. I think that I will flash him back to GB until source is released. I don't want want him to accidentally brick.
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I've been mostly staying on gb roms just for stability and battery life. As long as you read the instructions and don't try to be insanely flash happy you'll be fine.
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just got my Epic 4G from Ups today...have been rockin a Vibrant with Chimera... but now i feel like a noob again...ICS FF18 dled and installed already so where do i go from here..how do i root and where can i find a badass rom??? thanks in advanced!!!:fingers-crossed:
Check the wiki section. They have the roms listed there. Also first before anything read "how not to brick" and for FF18 there is a rooted one click Odin. Its in the dev section.
Edit: there is a Q&A section. You can search for what you need. hope this is helpful.
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I've heard that Blu Kuban is a cool ROM. I currently use CyanogenMod 9 Alpha 6. You can root your stock ROM with this guide: E4GT Wiki
Try searching next time
Team venum has some awesome roms. Just make sire to read the how not to brick thread first.
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Welcome to our street on XDA! Glad to see you have an Epic touch! I personally enjoy Cyanogen Mod Alpha 6, but it does have a few bugs. The one that annoys me the most being that cusotm ringtones are not supported yet. (The gf doesn't like not having her custom ringtone when she calls me ) But overall it is highly customizable and a great rom! I also like Blu Kuban (yes I did spell that right, Blu Kuban) but it is a little too Blue for my personal liking, but other than that I hear great things about it. I too recommend that you thoroughly read "The Official how I hard bricked my E4GT thread" http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1509795 as well as the "How Not To Brick Your E4GT (UPDATED 5/21/12)" thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1525495
From what I understand, the main things bricking Epic Touches right now is not being careful when flashing kernels. Currently, I believe that the recommended standard is when you wish to upgrade to a new rom, you first flash this in odin and then update: http://chris41g.devphone.org/EpicTouch/Stock Repack/EL26/StockCWM-EL26.tar.md5
This is a Gingerbread Kernel, and most people seem to recommend it when upgrading to ICS. In other words, Say one was on a stock FF18 root, one would open odin, flash this, then in the Clockwork recovery provided (the way people usually upgrade Modems, Roms, etc...) flash their new ICS Rom.
To Root, I might take a look at this, but I personally have not tried it, and don't know if it works or not. :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1721229
I believe in order to do that, in theory one would do the following:
Download that
Flash it in Odin
Done
If one wanted to go to Stock FF18 to Cyanogen Mod, I believe one would do the following:
Download and flash that rooted FF18 above,
Flash that EL26 CWM file I linked to earlier
Flash the Cyanogen Mod Alpha 6 http://e4gtcm.blogspot.com/p/cm9-status.html
Before you go ahead with any of this though, I would confirm that this is working with others, as I personally have not ever tried to start out on a non-rooted ICS Rom.
Also, whats called an emmc bug is currently going around, that hard-bricks devices in theory. Do be careful of this. It seems to be contagious through recoveries and kernels. I would read up more on this, as I myself am not fully educated upon the matter.
Also, please note that I do not take credit for any Kernels or Roms mentioned in this post, and that I in no way helped develop them. I also take no credit in discovering the emmc bug, I simply read about it, and have bricked one of my devices by getting the bug.
If you have any questions, let us know!
thanks to everyone..appreciate the input!!!:good:
edit: rooted now just need to find a stable kick butt rom.
:thumbup: for being rooted.. I'd recommend the blu Kuban as well.. Great rom with kick ass support ... Plus love the rom updater . A daily driver for me... Just throwing that out there
look for posts by QBKing77, he has it down.
RandallOfLegend said:
look for posts by QBKing77, he has it down.
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thanks bud...his vids helped me root and flash custom recovery
I'm also a relative noob, at least to Samsung devices. I am on stock rooted EG30 right now (no CWM). Say I wanted to flash Blu Kuban. From what I gather, I would Odin the EL29 kernel+CWM recovery only using the PDA option in Odin (not the full ROM), then boot into the recovery just Odin'ed, wipe data/factory reset (or use the Format All x2 script), then flash the Blu Kuban as instructed in the Blu Kuban thread. Correct? I don't have to wipe internal or external sd card either, right?
Also, once I do that, if I wanted to flash a different kernel, like agat FF18 built from source, how would I do that? Would I just use CWM to flash, or would I have to Odin?
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I'm also a relative noob, at least to Samsung devices. I am on stock rooted EG30 right now (no CWM). Say I wanted to flash Blu Kuban. From what I gather, I would Odin the EL29 kernel+CWM recovery only using the PDA option in Odin (not the full ROM), then boot into the recovery just Odin'ed, wipe data/factory reset (or use the Format All x2 script), then flash the Blu Kuban as instructed in the Blu Kuban thread. Correct? I don't have to wipe internal or external sd card either, right?
Also, once I do that, if I wanted to flash a different kernel, like agat FF18 built from source, how would I do that? Would I just use CWM to flash, or would I have to Odin?
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You have done your homework ... once you have blu kuban installed...it comes with a rom updater where you can change kernals modems and such. You can personalize it for your preferences. Good luck and welcome to the blu family.
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lambohoos said:
You have done your homework ... once you have blu kuban installed...it comes with a rom updater where you can change kernals modems and such. You can personalize it for your preferences. Good luck and welcome to the blu family.
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Thanks. Are there any standing issues with the Blu Kuban ROM? It says all existing FF18 issues are still there, but what in particular are those issues? Also, should I use EL29 or EL26 as the "base" kernel/recovery to flash from, or does it matter?
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Thanks. Are there any standing issues with the Blu Kuban ROM? It says all existing FF18 issues are still there, but what in particular are those issues? Also, should I use EL29 or EL26 as the "base" kernel/recovery to flash from, or does it matter?
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I've had the rom for almost 2 months now.. No issues at all.. Some black on black text here and there but that's not big in my opinion compared to some of the issues I've seen on other roms... And to flash you should be able to use agats source kernel and use ruj wipe in his OP
Rattor said:
Thanks. Are there any standing issues with the Blu Kuban ROM? It says all existing FF18 issues are still there, but what in particular are those issues? Also, should I use EL29 or EL26 as the "base" kernel/recovery to flash from, or does it matter?
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I used el29 when I first flashed this Rom. When you first install blu it has a caulks fe22 kernal...but with the updater you can go to the latest ff18. Ruj (blu developer ) will prob do a slight Makeover based on the released F18. I really enjoy his from. Great battery and love he themeing. Plenty of help in the developer area as well. Make sure after you flash you update your profile and prl... under about phone. Enjoy ICS!
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MiguelHogue said:
I've had the rom for almost 2 months now.. No issues at all.. Some black on black text here and there but that's not big in my opinion compared to some of the issues I've seen on other roms... And to flash you should be able to use agats source kernel and use ruj wipe in his OP
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Using the format all x2 in the OP of the Blu Kuban thread won't trigger the eMMC bug, right?
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Using the format all x2 in the OP of the Blu Kuban thread won't trigger the eMMC bug, right?
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Nope. No issues with that script.
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lambohoos said:
Nope. No issues with that script.
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Final question: if I wanted to restore my nandroid backup of my stock rooted EG30 ROM, I would still need to Odin back to the EL26 recovery/kernel first, correct?
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Final question: if I wanted to restore my nandroid backup of my stock rooted EG30 ROM, I would still need to Odin back to the EL26 recovery/kernel first, correct?
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I think so on that...since the backup is based on GB. Took me forever to pull the trigger on rooting my E4gt... but very happy with it now. Like getting a new phone. Have you gotten the ota update from sprint with regards to ice?
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I think so on that...since the backup is based on GB. Took me forever to pull the trigger on rooting my E4gt... but very happy with it now. Like getting a new phone. Have you gotten the ota update from sprint with regards to ice?
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No, I've been on stock rooted EG30 since I got my phone, and I disabled updates as well.
won't boot into CWM recovery
this thread seems like a great place for my noob questions too. I thought i knew my way around my HTC Evo 4G, but Samsung is like learning a whole new language...
I'm running CM9 alpha 4, with EL29 baseband version and FE16 kernel, and i have CWM 5.0.2.7 installed (i know i do because i made some nandroids). I can't get it to reboot into CWM now though - only the stock recovery. What am i doing wrong?