[Q] Desire overheating - Need to deroot? - Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hey,
I have had an HTC Desire for about 18 months now and I rooted it about 6 months ago with a CyanogenMod ROM. It has developed major overheating issue and continuously shut downs when it gets too hot or run a processor-intensive application. I have heard that de-rooting the device could help solve these issues and am ignorant to the steps involved as I am unable to connect my phone via HTC sync to install a factory ROM on it.
I have read several topics and have come up blank. Maybe I haven't looked hard enough but any help and information anyone could provide me with would be much appreciated.
Thanks.

have you overclocked your phone ? (can you check your cpu settings )
maybe your cpu settings are to high , high cpu set may cause overheating and instability , have you tried other cm roms ? i find if i overclock my phone it warms up faster etc and becomes unstable

There are 2 things here.
Is it rebooting at intense activity and NOT overheating? If so, Overclocked at too high a frequency for your CPU to take -Take the overclocking down a Notch.
Is it rebooting at intense activity and IS overheating? If so, most likely hardware fault (PVT1 Faulty Motherboard most likely) - Return to stock and send to HTC for repair.
Overclocking itself should not cause overheating as most kernels are UNDERvolted, meaning even at overclocked frequencies, they are not using more power, meaning they are not generating more heat. An exception to this is ManU kernels, where it uses 1350mA at the high end, where stock kernels use 1300

rootSU said:
There are 2 things here.
Is it rebooting at intense activity and NOT overheating? If so, Overclocked at too high a frequency for your CPU to take -Take the overclocking down a Notch.
Is it rebooting at intense activity and IS overheating? If so, most likely hardware fault (PVT1 Faulty Motherboard most likely) - Return to stock and send to HTC for repair.
Overclocking itself should not cause overheating as most kernels are UNDERvolted, meaning even at overclocked frequencies, they are not using more power, meaning they are not generating more heat. An exception to this is ManU kernels, where it uses 1350mA at the high end, where stock kernels use 1300
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Most likely a motherboard fault. I encountered the same thing.

seriously? ****... i've dropped mine once so they won't repair the damage probably... I'm having a similar problem.. though after i've flashed a recovery image, there's no problem!

I had mine repaired...3 times. Was constantly overheating and shutting down. Was a major let down when was using it as a car navigation. 10mins and it goes off just in front of a crossroad So after all it just turned off and..that's it. So my first repair was made in official Czech centre - got it back after a few weeks and it did work for a whole day..Then I plugged it into a wall charger, opened a game and just noticed the temp rising up to 43C..couldn't do anything, the next moment it was dead. Sent to repairs, got back after..a week. It didn't even turn on (sic!), so the guys at UK repair centre didn't even test it. But after another trial it's all good. I've rooted it, installed MIUI and just today S-OFF'ed it and flashed a custom HBOOT and now have a "BONUS" 130 megs. That's my story.

I've had similar problems and from what I read it is a hardware issue related to the motherboard that they will fix if your under warantee but programs like angry birds and navigation make it happen every time I use them with most roms. Some roms are heavier and more prone to reboots the roms I experience the least overheating reboots with are miui and oxygen but I love sense so just use a sense Rom and don't use games and navigation. A bit cr*?$%p I know.
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Ok wel I'm on MIUI now, let's see what happens. Use it now for a day and have been safe still
Edit: aaaaaannnnnnnndddd it's gone....
This is going to be fun now that outside temperatures are rising...

What were you doing when it overheated, playing games or just watching it?
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DutchDisturbed said:
Ok wel I'm on MIUI now, let's see what happens. Use it now for a day and have been safe still
Edit: aaaaaannnnnnnndddd it's gone....
This is going to be fun now that outside temperatures are rising...
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you are soo right lol ) if i use the phone outside where are @ +2°C the damn phone works like new... well, when i go inside, the whole story changes... the phone start rebooting and soo on... soo yeah.. it will be interesting to use this phone in the spring

It eventually crashed and never came back! Tears were cried, but I'm still happy with the nexus 4 followup.
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[Q] Defy+ Temporary bricking due to overheating?

Yeah, got a major issue: My Defy+ is overheating and I usually end up with a blocked phone, which ends up being useless for about 4-5 hours. And it's becoming more often.
I have 2.3.4 on it, but I seriously doubt 2.3.6 solves this issue.
Any tips?
Deformat said:
Any tips?
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Try custom ROM's and DO NOT flash 2.3.6 full sbf as it's quite buggy and you'll be stuck with it.
You could also try to undervolt the CPU. In what conditions do you get an overheated phone?
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You could also try to undervolt the CPU. In what conditions do you get an overheated phone?
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How could I do that?
Also, I get it for no reason whatsoever. It gets overheated and that's it. I left it to cool about 4 God damn hours, and yet when I open it it works a bit, then it gets stuck. It's as if the memory isn't well processed.
To give ya an example, I left it over night and even charged it. Everything went fine.Then, got to school, got a break, wanted to listen to a song. Fine, listened to a song. A guy wanted to waste some time on Opera Mini with his Ikariam game. Fine, let him waste that 1 tab and browse online.
But then, when he gave it to me it was stuck.
Wait a lot of time to stop it via Android's button, did it eventually. Left it to cool 2 hours, tried again. Again, after less than 3 minutes of usage (wanted to share a file via bluetooth, but got to the folder only) it got stuck again. This time it was pointless, 30 minutes later I wasn't able to stop it so I took the battery off.
I kinda don't know if I should change it or still have faith in it.
Right now stuff seems worse. Sometimes it reboots itself, but that doesn't help with anything IMO.
BTW, would the 1% battery patch help? Might put that 720p functionality in there as well.
As Auris said, try flashing a custom ROM (CM7.2 is a good choice, stable and fast enough). For undervolting (if you are on a stock ROM only - because CM7 has a built-in CPU manager, accessible from the bootmenu) ), install SetVsel from the Play Store. Like PC overclocking/undervolting, be careful about the values you choose. You'll find a thread in the General section about SetVsel values.
If these ideas don't help you solve your problem, I think it might be hardware related.
Trimis de pe Defy CM9
My defy+ gets really hot on just about everything except stock! Undervolting didn't help, nor underclocking. Putting it in the fridge temporarily helped, but when I started using it again the temp climbed again!
What should I do? :-/
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Well, since you flashed custom ROMs (unlike the OP), how about the baseband? I remember that when I flashed CM7 for the first time I didn't get 3G signal and the phone was overheating because the signal was too poor for the baseband that I used. Switched between a few and finally managed to get one with good signal and 2G/3G/3.5G working fine.
I never use 3G, so I've never bothered changing it. By the way... what are the differences between basebands with the same frequencies?
Could flashing a different kernel solve it?
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Well, there are different regions - I don't know the technical details, but maybe some basebands work better with certain network operators. It's a trial&error method, you could choose one that works better or one that performs worse.
Regarding the kernel: I have no idea about the heat dissipation, but from what I've read there is a GB kernel that supposedly has better battery life. Ask Auris, he uses it (it's the kernel by walter79).
Okay, seems the issue solved itself, since now it works perfectly :|
I didn't play a game, which was kinda retarded: low quality, a simple Android game, and playing Temple Run/Angry Birds/ Angry Birds Space didn't give you me any issue.
I don't get it.

[FIX] Pops and crackles in headphone output.

Hey everyone, just thought I would let it be known that (at least on my phone) overclocking past 1.8GHz causes horrible clicks and pops when listening through the headphone jack. I am using the Rogers Stock ROM with the latest KT747 kernel, and the issue appears when clocked to 1.89GHz, even though the rest of the phone runs stable. Took me a while to track down the problem!
I was hoping people with other kernels/roms/configurations could weigh in to see if this is an isolated or a widespread issue. For the time being I have just decided to overclock manually when it is needed.
EDIT: It appears after more testing that it was the kernel itself. Switching to stock kernel fixed the problem.
MatinatorX said:
Hey everyone, just thought I would let it be known that (at least on my phone) overclocking past 1.8GHz causes horrible clicks and pops when listening through the headphone jack. I am using the Rogers Stock ROM with the latest KT747 kernel, and the issue appears when clocked to 1.89GHz, even though the rest of the phone runs stable. Took me a while to track down the problem!
I was hoping people with other kernels/roms/configurations could weigh in to see if this is an isolated or a widespread issue. For the time being I have just decided to overclock manually when it is needed.
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isn't your phone blazing hot to the hand?
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isn't your phone blazing hot to the hand?
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Suprisingly the temperature increase is hardly noticeable. I tested while playing N. O. V. A. 3 and a few other games. My One XL got burning hot while overclocked to 1.7GHz, even though it's the same chip, which I find strange.
I had this probelm as well on my SGS3, ended up exchanging my phone for another reason and the new phone doesnt do it anymore.
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The galaxy s3 explodes with stock temps, I would be afraid to oc to 1.9GHz Oh, and I would edit the title from [FIX] it's kind of misleading since there isn't a fix here.
MatinatorX said:
For the time being I have just decided to overclock manually when it is needed.
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I'm still trying to figure out when you would "need" to overclock.
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americasteam said:
I'm still trying to figure out when you would "need" to overclock.
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I'm a power user. I do just about everything with my phone, including lots of gaming with emulators. Perhaps I got a higher than normal quality chunk of silicon, but the phone didn't overheat at all, even when overclocked. The only time it got noticeably warm was while overclocked, gaming and charging all at once.
To those having this problem, it appears it wasn't related to overclocking after all, as the issue appeared a day later on stock frequencies. Changing back to a stock kernel fixed the problem.
In the end I sold it and bought an international SGS3 from eBay. I don't care for LTE, but the Wolfson DAC and Mali-400 GPU appeal to my usage case nicely.
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Perhaps I got a higher than normal quality chunk of silicon, but the phone didn't overheat at all, even when overclocked. The only time it got noticeably warm was while overclocked, gaming and charging all at once./QUOTE]
Seeing posts like this just make me cry inside...from the day I first got my phone and activated it, I have been having overheating problems. No one would take my device back so after my 30 day "return" period or whatever, I decided to root my phone to underclock/undervolt to solve my problem....but even know, my phone gets warm by just using stock Browser after a fresh install (not Chrome or anything else) WITH underclocking.
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Hot HOX

Lately the phone has been running warmer than normal. While on call or on a game it really heats up. I have to stop playing game thinking that it may blow up in my hands.
Is this a general problem with the quality of chip used by HTC?
Is this because of stock ROM?
Does this also happen on CFW?
Maybe u have a sg3...
Which firmware do u have mate? Just when we get the best benchmark with the new ota ...people , not seen in hox Forum start with problems.
Talk about ur hox so we can help.
Htc One X Venom ViperX Rom + faux123 s kernel + Rezound Mod
I'm in india ...
Running stock .3 since ...X is less than a month old n still exploring. Making sure all hardware is ok , cause after root warranty will expire.
I chkd phone update today ..but nothing for me, but I see few ppl have got .4 n updated sense.
no issues at all with mine....when you say it gets really hot does it only happen while playing games? and how long do you play your game for? also do you play games while charging your phone?
1: while playing game - no charging : after playing for 5-10 mins the back part below the camera and the ring of camera heats up, same happens on long calls....
Game : deck landing
Also long browsing on WiFi warms the phone. (Only occasional)..unable to narrow this down
2 : on charger : its not only warm, but its really hot. I get a little unsafe feeling. Game time less than 5 min.
Why do u think this is happening?
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1: while playing game - no charging : after playing for 5-10 mins the back part below the camera and the ring of camera heats up, same happens on long calls....
Game : deck landing
Also long browsing on WiFi warms the phone. (Only occasional)..unable to narrow this down
2 : on charger : its not only warm, but its really hot. I get a little unsafe feeling. Game time less than 5 min.
Why do u think this is happening?
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while charging i would not recommend to play games. also regarding when browsing though wifi it does get warm my friend.....but after a very long while....regarding games i mean i play only one game but it does get hot but not to the extreme that it would burn my hands
if it gets so hot that you can not hold it in your hands then maybe there is something wrong..specially if it gets hot after say two minutes....do you have other stuff in the background like facebook or twitter while playing the games
Thank u for replying.
I've cancelled all apps in task manager n tried and it still runs warm, but not hot.
WiFi is ocassional, so I cannot narrow as when and which situation.
My battery software shows the batt temp jump to 45 deg ...normal is 32-34... So I'm sure its definitely getting warm ....
Does rooting and installing cfw help?
Have you installed any apps recently? Seems like an app misbehaving. Use a battery monitor app to see which app.
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You should update, I'm not sure if the new OTA is out in India check..
My One X was heating until I went 2.05+ based roms. They fixed overheating issues in the new ota. If the new OTA isn't out in India, you can unlock and get one of those new roms with 2.17 base or stock 2.17
cheers!
Send it back for repair, getting hot when browsing internet on WiFi is not normal. I'm browsing internet on WiFi for 2 hours for now and my hox is not even warm.
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Hey guys can anyone help me getting 2.x roms please?
Also should I wait for the next update a d then take a call ?
1)Check for updates
2)If No update then decide if you want to unlock(s-on) your phone to try a 2.xx based ROM. That's if you haven't unlocked already.
or you want to give it to HTC
If there is no update and you do give it to HTC good luck!
If you're desperate and want to unlock and update then:
1)Unlock Phone
2)Install CWM
3)Pick a ROM and flash
There are more than enough stickies and guides in the HTC One X Android Development subforum. Help yourself.
My hox hat overheating auch, when play dead space, i have the update but still burning, please help,
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[Q] What is happening to my gio?

Every time I flash a 2.3.6 rom, my phone will be normal for the first few days. But after that, my phone cannot be turned on and will be very hot
I sent to the Samsung repair and they tell me my cpu or what is burn to die.
So what is actually happening?
Your cpu may have defect
bensonhsu said:
Every time I flash a 2.3.6 rom, my phone will be normal for the first few days. But after that, my phone cannot be turned on and will be very hot
I sent to the Samsung repair and they tell me my cpu or what is burn to die.
So what is actually happening?
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I don't think flashing rom will help to fix your phone because your cpu (the speed of your phone) may have defect. Your cpu may have defect which makes it so easy to get overheated and burns to death. It's a hardware issue not software related. I don't think/know if xda members here could help you with hardware issues otherwise you should turn to Samsung
What you could do is to flash a new rom, and underclock so the temperature will be lower...
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I have the same problem with my Gio. It is definitely hardware since it happens with multiple ROMs with no overclocking. I think I tried underclocking once with little success. If it's a hot day I can lose use of the phone for hours.
well, if you think it didn't happen by flashing , rooting etc, flash back to stock on a ''cold'' day. and try getting it repaired or a new phone for free, using your ''warrantly''. but you need a bit luck..
just tell them it happened after upgrading with KIES to gingerbread or something.
Check ur speed clock CPU using soft in Google play
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[Q] random reboots in every ROM lg nitro hd i

Hi Guys
Well i have install several ROMS wich as HO!NO! full throtlle, Cyanogenmod 9 an 10 stables and Nigthly edition, JellyBam and others that i not even remember and all of them always in some point they just reboots and im really hate it. I use wakelocks app and it works for a few days but eventually it reboot and he battery drain really fast, 8hours in EDGE and just a little chatting on whatsapp and a few calls.
i always wipe system, datvilks etc, im kind of new on this stuuuf but i think im doing it correctly.
Im starting to think that maybe its a hadware problem. Onces i ask some crappy tech gay in a store and he told me that i should buy another battery i dont know why, i thought that he just want to sell me the battery but i dont know.
Can anyone help me or recomend a ROM or something?
I just want a ROM that doesnt reboot and good battery life and i can do normal stuff. i dont care about overclocking or anything like that,
Thanks in advance
I would install a stock rom, either stock AT&T gingerbread or ICS for the Nitro and see if it still reboots. If it does, I think you have a hardware problem.
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I would install a stock rom, either stock AT&T gingerbread or ICS for the Nitro and see if it still reboots. If it does, I think you have a hardware problem.
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I would go here first: http://www.att.com/esupport/article.jsp?sid=KB413885&cv=820
This will make sure you are 100% stock. Then if you are still having issues you know that it is a hardware problem. Just make sure you do a full wipe after install.
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Sparcots miui ics port is the only rom that has zero bugs, black screens, or reboots for me. I've tried everything else.
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Another potential issue is your SD Card.
I've also noticed lately that my Nitro sometimes randomly reboots. I run with the CM10 Nightlies. The other day, after installing a new nightly, it was really bad, almost constantly rebooting. I took out the battery, removed the SD card and let it sit for awhile (like 1/2 hour or so). Then I put everything back together, reinstalled the nightly and it's MUCH MORE stable now (still randomly reboots, but the instances are much less).
Give that a try and see if it helps at all.
Good luck!
Hi All!
I have LG P936 Optimus true hd with vodafone v20c firmware.
It`s regularly several spontaneous reboots per day. I saved logs with one reboot
03-13 17:03:41.993 F/libc ( 417): Fatal signal 11 (SIGSEGV) at 0x00000001 (code=1)
03-13 17:03:42.404 I/DEBUG (10445):
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how it can be solved? Help please!
My solution has been to just stick with Gingerbread.. No rebooting, good battery life even with the stock battery, runs all the apps I need.
I do miss ics/jellybean, but I rather have a stable phone with great battery life than a pretty, unstable bleeding edge phone.
If anyone wants to build an awesome gingerbread/ics hybrid.. Then I am down. Lol.
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Can you tell what happened based on the logs?
two P930s (NItro HD), one with hardware issues
I have two P930s. One of them is much more sensitive to ROM settings and I find I need to limit the CPU to 1200 Mhz or so to prevent random reboots.
The other one works well at full 1500 Mhz speed. This particular model seems to have inconsistent hardware build quality. It makes me reluctant to try any other LG devices (a relative has an LG dishwasher that has also been troublesome, with random shutdowns and error codes).
possible causes
1 - bad sd card
2 - bad flash
3 - unstable recovery .
for me , i have noticed the same , and found it fixed once i upgraded my recovery
1 - bad sd card
its rebooting without sd card
2 - bad flash
its rebooting on two v20c firmware what I used
3 - unstable recovery .
I use official kdz firmware only, not cwm
I' ve got the same problem. I've changed the sd card but it didn't work.
Similar issues here with a Nitro that a friend let me borrow while I'm waiting for parts for my other phone. Random reboots on several different ROM's including stock.
I'm going to try Kernel Tuner and up the voltage a little and see if the phone is more stable. wistlo mentioned limiting the CPU to 1200 Mhz and I think he may be on the right track. If the processor cannot handle being clocked to 1500, which is stock, then a common method (at least with PC's) is to either lower the Mhz or increase the voltage. Or both.
I just tried this a few minutes ago and I'll report back later.
budroid said:
Similar issues here with a Nitro that a friend let me borrow while I'm waiting for parts for my other phone. Random reboots on several different ROM's including stock.
I'm going to try Kernel Tuner and up the voltage a little and see if the phone is more stable. wistlo mentioned limiting the CPU to 1200 Mhz and I think he may be on the right track. If the processor cannot handle being clocked to 1500, which is stock, then a common method (at least with PC's) is to either lower the Mhz or increase the voltage. Or both.
I just tried this a few minutes ago and I'll report back later.
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My phone was still unstable. I decided to try a stock Gingerbread ROM and it seems to run very, very well.
budroid said:
My phone was still unstable. I decided to try a stock Gingerbread ROM and it seems to run very, very well.
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Yeah, i remember downgrading to GB to root, didn't use it muchzbut it never once rebooted.
Bought mine last week on ebay brand new (packages sealed and everything), i let it fully charged and started using it.
Came with stock ICS and has been constantly rebooting for the past week.
If i didn't live overseas and didn't have to pay so much money to clear through customs here i would have returned it, but i'm stuck with it and searching for help.
Funny thing is i've gamed on it for hours straight and stability tests for more than 2 hrs and it never rebooted. Then i'll whip out the keyboard to type a message or install an app on play store...or simple web browsing and BAM!....reboots
I've changed to 3 SD Cards even tried without it, still reboots.
All wireless signals off, reboot.
Different ROMS/Kernels, factory reset/wipe, Battery cover off, diff. governors I/Os, Underclocks & Overvolts, tried it all....except going back to GB.
It kind of irks me to know that i came from a GB phone to upgrade to a "new" phone that can only run on GB stable.
It always crashes during some really "stressLESS" stuff, lol. CPU scaling problem maybe?
Also, with no SD Card installed and on boot i get a "SD Card damaged. Try Reformatting" error. Is it normal to get this error with no SD installed?
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Funny thing is i've gamed on it for hours straight and stability tests for more than 2 hrs and it never rebooted. Then i'll whip out the keyboard to type a message or install an app on play store...or simple web browsing and BAM!....reboots
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This definitely makes me think you've got a CPU scaling problem. If you're doing something consistent, like playing a game or stress testing...The CPU will likely stay at a single frequency...But in your case, once you start doing some other activity (which very likely caused a CPU frequency change), the reboot occurs.
Definitely try installing SetCPU and set both the minimum and maximum frequency to something midrange, like 1.2GHz. This way you're locking the phone to a single value (no scaling) and not the max frequency so you won't overload it. Then do what you usually do when it reboots and If the phone stays stable, you'll know the problem is likely an issue with CPU frequency scaling. If it still reboots, at least you've removed one possible reason from the list.
Namuna said:
This definitely makes me think you've got a CPU scaling problem. If you're doing something consistent, like playing a game or stress testing...The CPU will likely stay at a single frequency...But in your case, once you start doing some other activity (which very likely caused a CPU frequency change), the reboot occurs.
Definitely try installing SetCPU and set both the minimum and maximum frequency to something midrange, like 1.2GHz. This way you're locking the phone to a single value (no scaling) and not the max frequency so you won't overload it. Then do what you usually do when it reboots and If the phone stays stable, you'll know the problem is likely an issue with CPU frequency scaling. If it still reboots, at least you've removed one possible reason from the list.
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It was suggested in another thread that setting the governor to conservative 486 min 1404 max fixed the BSOD, so I tried it and haven't had a single reboot since I posted the last time. I was lucky if I got 30 min before trying it out.
I agree with you, definitely seems to be CPU scaling issue.
Conservative gradually increases the speed compared to the massive min to max spikes you'd get with ondemand.
I will try that with CM10.1 Rc2 with Wind Kernel. I got a few reboot when using my Calendar app for example, while low on battery.
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radhames562 said:
Can anyone help me or recomend a ROM or something?
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Try one thing: buy you a new microsd card and see if it helps
salimbaba said:
for me , i have noticed the same , and found it fixed once i upgraded my recovery
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Tell me, plz, how can I do that? Now I have old 5.8.0.2 recovery. But since I dumped old 8Gb Sandisk and inserted 16Gb Sandisk I now had no reboots. But I want new recovery nonetheless

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