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Hey,
I have had an HTC Desire for about 18 months now and I rooted it about 6 months ago with a CyanogenMod ROM. It has developed major overheating issue and continuously shut downs when it gets too hot or run a processor-intensive application. I have heard that de-rooting the device could help solve these issues and am ignorant to the steps involved as I am unable to connect my phone via HTC sync to install a factory ROM on it.
I have read several topics and have come up blank. Maybe I haven't looked hard enough but any help and information anyone could provide me with would be much appreciated.
Thanks.
have you overclocked your phone ? (can you check your cpu settings )
maybe your cpu settings are to high , high cpu set may cause overheating and instability , have you tried other cm roms ? i find if i overclock my phone it warms up faster etc and becomes unstable
There are 2 things here.
Is it rebooting at intense activity and NOT overheating? If so, Overclocked at too high a frequency for your CPU to take -Take the overclocking down a Notch.
Is it rebooting at intense activity and IS overheating? If so, most likely hardware fault (PVT1 Faulty Motherboard most likely) - Return to stock and send to HTC for repair.
Overclocking itself should not cause overheating as most kernels are UNDERvolted, meaning even at overclocked frequencies, they are not using more power, meaning they are not generating more heat. An exception to this is ManU kernels, where it uses 1350mA at the high end, where stock kernels use 1300
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There are 2 things here.
Is it rebooting at intense activity and NOT overheating? If so, Overclocked at too high a frequency for your CPU to take -Take the overclocking down a Notch.
Is it rebooting at intense activity and IS overheating? If so, most likely hardware fault (PVT1 Faulty Motherboard most likely) - Return to stock and send to HTC for repair.
Overclocking itself should not cause overheating as most kernels are UNDERvolted, meaning even at overclocked frequencies, they are not using more power, meaning they are not generating more heat. An exception to this is ManU kernels, where it uses 1350mA at the high end, where stock kernels use 1300
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Most likely a motherboard fault. I encountered the same thing.
seriously? ****... i've dropped mine once so they won't repair the damage probably... I'm having a similar problem.. though after i've flashed a recovery image, there's no problem!
I had mine repaired...3 times. Was constantly overheating and shutting down. Was a major let down when was using it as a car navigation. 10mins and it goes off just in front of a crossroad So after all it just turned off and..that's it. So my first repair was made in official Czech centre - got it back after a few weeks and it did work for a whole day..Then I plugged it into a wall charger, opened a game and just noticed the temp rising up to 43C..couldn't do anything, the next moment it was dead. Sent to repairs, got back after..a week. It didn't even turn on (sic!), so the guys at UK repair centre didn't even test it. But after another trial it's all good. I've rooted it, installed MIUI and just today S-OFF'ed it and flashed a custom HBOOT and now have a "BONUS" 130 megs. That's my story.
I've had similar problems and from what I read it is a hardware issue related to the motherboard that they will fix if your under warantee but programs like angry birds and navigation make it happen every time I use them with most roms. Some roms are heavier and more prone to reboots the roms I experience the least overheating reboots with are miui and oxygen but I love sense so just use a sense Rom and don't use games and navigation. A bit cr*?$%p I know.
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Ok wel I'm on MIUI now, let's see what happens. Use it now for a day and have been safe still
Edit: aaaaaannnnnnnndddd it's gone....
This is going to be fun now that outside temperatures are rising...
What were you doing when it overheated, playing games or just watching it?
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DutchDisturbed said:
Ok wel I'm on MIUI now, let's see what happens. Use it now for a day and have been safe still
Edit: aaaaaannnnnnnndddd it's gone....
This is going to be fun now that outside temperatures are rising...
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you are soo right lol ) if i use the phone outside where are @ +2°C the damn phone works like new... well, when i go inside, the whole story changes... the phone start rebooting and soo on... soo yeah.. it will be interesting to use this phone in the spring
It eventually crashed and never came back! Tears were cried, but I'm still happy with the nexus 4 followup.
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Yeah, got a major issue: My Defy+ is overheating and I usually end up with a blocked phone, which ends up being useless for about 4-5 hours. And it's becoming more often.
I have 2.3.4 on it, but I seriously doubt 2.3.6 solves this issue.
Any tips?
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Any tips?
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Try custom ROM's and DO NOT flash 2.3.6 full sbf as it's quite buggy and you'll be stuck with it.
You could also try to undervolt the CPU. In what conditions do you get an overheated phone?
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You could also try to undervolt the CPU. In what conditions do you get an overheated phone?
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How could I do that?
Also, I get it for no reason whatsoever. It gets overheated and that's it. I left it to cool about 4 God damn hours, and yet when I open it it works a bit, then it gets stuck. It's as if the memory isn't well processed.
To give ya an example, I left it over night and even charged it. Everything went fine.Then, got to school, got a break, wanted to listen to a song. Fine, listened to a song. A guy wanted to waste some time on Opera Mini with his Ikariam game. Fine, let him waste that 1 tab and browse online.
But then, when he gave it to me it was stuck.
Wait a lot of time to stop it via Android's button, did it eventually. Left it to cool 2 hours, tried again. Again, after less than 3 minutes of usage (wanted to share a file via bluetooth, but got to the folder only) it got stuck again. This time it was pointless, 30 minutes later I wasn't able to stop it so I took the battery off.
I kinda don't know if I should change it or still have faith in it.
Right now stuff seems worse. Sometimes it reboots itself, but that doesn't help with anything IMO.
BTW, would the 1% battery patch help? Might put that 720p functionality in there as well.
As Auris said, try flashing a custom ROM (CM7.2 is a good choice, stable and fast enough). For undervolting (if you are on a stock ROM only - because CM7 has a built-in CPU manager, accessible from the bootmenu) ), install SetVsel from the Play Store. Like PC overclocking/undervolting, be careful about the values you choose. You'll find a thread in the General section about SetVsel values.
If these ideas don't help you solve your problem, I think it might be hardware related.
Trimis de pe Defy CM9
My defy+ gets really hot on just about everything except stock! Undervolting didn't help, nor underclocking. Putting it in the fridge temporarily helped, but when I started using it again the temp climbed again!
What should I do? :-/
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Well, since you flashed custom ROMs (unlike the OP), how about the baseband? I remember that when I flashed CM7 for the first time I didn't get 3G signal and the phone was overheating because the signal was too poor for the baseband that I used. Switched between a few and finally managed to get one with good signal and 2G/3G/3.5G working fine.
I never use 3G, so I've never bothered changing it. By the way... what are the differences between basebands with the same frequencies?
Could flashing a different kernel solve it?
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Well, there are different regions - I don't know the technical details, but maybe some basebands work better with certain network operators. It's a trial&error method, you could choose one that works better or one that performs worse.
Regarding the kernel: I have no idea about the heat dissipation, but from what I've read there is a GB kernel that supposedly has better battery life. Ask Auris, he uses it (it's the kernel by walter79).
Okay, seems the issue solved itself, since now it works perfectly :|
I didn't play a game, which was kinda retarded: low quality, a simple Android game, and playing Temple Run/Angry Birds/ Angry Birds Space didn't give you me any issue.
I don't get it.
Hello there xda. I bought my first SGH-i747m(Canada Bell version) and it had a pretty serious heat problem when I did use my cellphone doing anything for more than 5 minutes. After 15 minutes it usually bothers me too much so I just stop using my device.
I didn't try anything to fix it yet other than using a JB rom(ParanoidAndroid) on both my first device, and now my second device. They both do the absolute same thing. The bottom half gets really hot while the top half stays really cool.
Is that a common thing? If so, is there any fixes? It's really horrible to use a half hot/cold device, even worse than using a fully hot device.
Nah
Try turning Powersave On.
I had issues with overheating too.
Now they are all gone.
I'm running Nostalgia 7.5
It gets hot at the bottom because that's where the CPU and all that good stuff are, and that good stuff gets hot. Mine doesn't get crazy hot down there but it is definitely warmer down there then the top, that much is normal. Yours may be to hot down there however... Idk. But I've seen others with this issue cool the phone down with custom kernels. I've also seen people say custom kernels make there phone hotter.. Try it out.
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Try turning Powersave On.
I had issues with overheating too.
Now they are all gone.
I'm running Nostalgia 7.5
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I'm on custom JB, so there' no "powersave".
I guess I'll try different kernels etc. I'm quite close to actually selling the device, overheating is one of my pet peeves.
Are you sure its overheating?
Like the gentleman a few posts up said. Depending on how you use it. The phone will get warm.
It should never be actually hot, to the point where it will harm you if you pick it up.
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try going back to stock, all of a sudden the phone doesnt get as hot.
or try underclocking your kernel on custom. AOKP and CM both have an out of the box clock of 1.8 Ghz.
tune it down to 1.3 or 1.1. issue gone.
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Are you sure its overheating?
Like the gentleman a few posts up said. Depending on how you use it. The phone will get warm.
It should never be actually hot, to the point where it will harm you if you pick it up.
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I feel like I shouldn't be complaining, and that it's not "overheating" but it's getting warm. I'm used to my SGS1 which runs ice cold whatever I do.
I just underclocked it, but I don't even feel the difference. I'm now running the new ParanoidAndroid with the custom kernel recommended in here. It has all the tweaking tools necessary.
Happened even on stock ROM
Mine runs a bit warm too. It is warm to the point where is gets uncomfortable to keep in my pocket at times and as far as I know it is doing "nothing". It will be fine, then I check an email or G+ notification then it goes crazy.
One commenter suggested going back to stock but mine has been doing the same thing since then, it just seem a bit more regular for the last few days. I am now in KyanROM 1.3. I am going to give that po.wer save thing a shot over the next day or so and let you guys know how that goes.
Use setcpu load up the setcpu widget and tell up what tempature your phone is
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I notcied it is overheating when it's on LTE and the battery drain fast. I turned LTE off and I am using 4g or wifi and i don't have this problem
I noticed my phone started connecting to LTE since this week too but my overheating problem started long before that. What I noticed though is that the battery also started to drain a lot faster when it started. For the battery drain, I am thinking it is either that LTE thing or a rouge app trying access my GPS a lot since the icon keeps popping up more and more in the notification bar "searching". For now I have disabled LTE and GPS until I have time to investigate them.
By the way, I tried using PowerSave, as someone suggested to help with the overheating, but it screwed up how some of my emails are displayed so I turned it off.
Hi Guys
Well i have install several ROMS wich as HO!NO! full throtlle, Cyanogenmod 9 an 10 stables and Nigthly edition, JellyBam and others that i not even remember and all of them always in some point they just reboots and im really hate it. I use wakelocks app and it works for a few days but eventually it reboot and he battery drain really fast, 8hours in EDGE and just a little chatting on whatsapp and a few calls.
i always wipe system, datvilks etc, im kind of new on this stuuuf but i think im doing it correctly.
Im starting to think that maybe its a hadware problem. Onces i ask some crappy tech gay in a store and he told me that i should buy another battery i dont know why, i thought that he just want to sell me the battery but i dont know.
Can anyone help me or recomend a ROM or something?
I just want a ROM that doesnt reboot and good battery life and i can do normal stuff. i dont care about overclocking or anything like that,
Thanks in advance
I would install a stock rom, either stock AT&T gingerbread or ICS for the Nitro and see if it still reboots. If it does, I think you have a hardware problem.
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I would install a stock rom, either stock AT&T gingerbread or ICS for the Nitro and see if it still reboots. If it does, I think you have a hardware problem.
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I would go here first: http://www.att.com/esupport/article.jsp?sid=KB413885&cv=820
This will make sure you are 100% stock. Then if you are still having issues you know that it is a hardware problem. Just make sure you do a full wipe after install.
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Sparcots miui ics port is the only rom that has zero bugs, black screens, or reboots for me. I've tried everything else.
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Another potential issue is your SD Card.
I've also noticed lately that my Nitro sometimes randomly reboots. I run with the CM10 Nightlies. The other day, after installing a new nightly, it was really bad, almost constantly rebooting. I took out the battery, removed the SD card and let it sit for awhile (like 1/2 hour or so). Then I put everything back together, reinstalled the nightly and it's MUCH MORE stable now (still randomly reboots, but the instances are much less).
Give that a try and see if it helps at all.
Good luck!
Hi All!
I have LG P936 Optimus true hd with vodafone v20c firmware.
It`s regularly several spontaneous reboots per day. I saved logs with one reboot
03-13 17:03:41.993 F/libc ( 417): Fatal signal 11 (SIGSEGV) at 0x00000001 (code=1)
03-13 17:03:42.404 I/DEBUG (10445):
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how it can be solved? Help please!
My solution has been to just stick with Gingerbread.. No rebooting, good battery life even with the stock battery, runs all the apps I need.
I do miss ics/jellybean, but I rather have a stable phone with great battery life than a pretty, unstable bleeding edge phone.
If anyone wants to build an awesome gingerbread/ics hybrid.. Then I am down. Lol.
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Can you tell what happened based on the logs?
two P930s (NItro HD), one with hardware issues
I have two P930s. One of them is much more sensitive to ROM settings and I find I need to limit the CPU to 1200 Mhz or so to prevent random reboots.
The other one works well at full 1500 Mhz speed. This particular model seems to have inconsistent hardware build quality. It makes me reluctant to try any other LG devices (a relative has an LG dishwasher that has also been troublesome, with random shutdowns and error codes).
possible causes
1 - bad sd card
2 - bad flash
3 - unstable recovery .
for me , i have noticed the same , and found it fixed once i upgraded my recovery
1 - bad sd card
its rebooting without sd card
2 - bad flash
its rebooting on two v20c firmware what I used
3 - unstable recovery .
I use official kdz firmware only, not cwm
I' ve got the same problem. I've changed the sd card but it didn't work.
Similar issues here with a Nitro that a friend let me borrow while I'm waiting for parts for my other phone. Random reboots on several different ROM's including stock.
I'm going to try Kernel Tuner and up the voltage a little and see if the phone is more stable. wistlo mentioned limiting the CPU to 1200 Mhz and I think he may be on the right track. If the processor cannot handle being clocked to 1500, which is stock, then a common method (at least with PC's) is to either lower the Mhz or increase the voltage. Or both.
I just tried this a few minutes ago and I'll report back later.
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Similar issues here with a Nitro that a friend let me borrow while I'm waiting for parts for my other phone. Random reboots on several different ROM's including stock.
I'm going to try Kernel Tuner and up the voltage a little and see if the phone is more stable. wistlo mentioned limiting the CPU to 1200 Mhz and I think he may be on the right track. If the processor cannot handle being clocked to 1500, which is stock, then a common method (at least with PC's) is to either lower the Mhz or increase the voltage. Or both.
I just tried this a few minutes ago and I'll report back later.
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My phone was still unstable. I decided to try a stock Gingerbread ROM and it seems to run very, very well.
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My phone was still unstable. I decided to try a stock Gingerbread ROM and it seems to run very, very well.
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Yeah, i remember downgrading to GB to root, didn't use it muchzbut it never once rebooted.
Bought mine last week on ebay brand new (packages sealed and everything), i let it fully charged and started using it.
Came with stock ICS and has been constantly rebooting for the past week.
If i didn't live overseas and didn't have to pay so much money to clear through customs here i would have returned it, but i'm stuck with it and searching for help.
Funny thing is i've gamed on it for hours straight and stability tests for more than 2 hrs and it never rebooted. Then i'll whip out the keyboard to type a message or install an app on play store...or simple web browsing and BAM!....reboots
I've changed to 3 SD Cards even tried without it, still reboots.
All wireless signals off, reboot.
Different ROMS/Kernels, factory reset/wipe, Battery cover off, diff. governors I/Os, Underclocks & Overvolts, tried it all....except going back to GB.
It kind of irks me to know that i came from a GB phone to upgrade to a "new" phone that can only run on GB stable.
It always crashes during some really "stressLESS" stuff, lol. CPU scaling problem maybe?
Also, with no SD Card installed and on boot i get a "SD Card damaged. Try Reformatting" error. Is it normal to get this error with no SD installed?
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Funny thing is i've gamed on it for hours straight and stability tests for more than 2 hrs and it never rebooted. Then i'll whip out the keyboard to type a message or install an app on play store...or simple web browsing and BAM!....reboots
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This definitely makes me think you've got a CPU scaling problem. If you're doing something consistent, like playing a game or stress testing...The CPU will likely stay at a single frequency...But in your case, once you start doing some other activity (which very likely caused a CPU frequency change), the reboot occurs.
Definitely try installing SetCPU and set both the minimum and maximum frequency to something midrange, like 1.2GHz. This way you're locking the phone to a single value (no scaling) and not the max frequency so you won't overload it. Then do what you usually do when it reboots and If the phone stays stable, you'll know the problem is likely an issue with CPU frequency scaling. If it still reboots, at least you've removed one possible reason from the list.
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This definitely makes me think you've got a CPU scaling problem. If you're doing something consistent, like playing a game or stress testing...The CPU will likely stay at a single frequency...But in your case, once you start doing some other activity (which very likely caused a CPU frequency change), the reboot occurs.
Definitely try installing SetCPU and set both the minimum and maximum frequency to something midrange, like 1.2GHz. This way you're locking the phone to a single value (no scaling) and not the max frequency so you won't overload it. Then do what you usually do when it reboots and If the phone stays stable, you'll know the problem is likely an issue with CPU frequency scaling. If it still reboots, at least you've removed one possible reason from the list.
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It was suggested in another thread that setting the governor to conservative 486 min 1404 max fixed the BSOD, so I tried it and haven't had a single reboot since I posted the last time. I was lucky if I got 30 min before trying it out.
I agree with you, definitely seems to be CPU scaling issue.
Conservative gradually increases the speed compared to the massive min to max spikes you'd get with ondemand.
I will try that with CM10.1 Rc2 with Wind Kernel. I got a few reboot when using my Calendar app for example, while low on battery.
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Can anyone help me or recomend a ROM or something?
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Try one thing: buy you a new microsd card and see if it helps
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for me , i have noticed the same , and found it fixed once i upgraded my recovery
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Tell me, plz, how can I do that? Now I have old 5.8.0.2 recovery. But since I dumped old 8Gb Sandisk and inserted 16Gb Sandisk I now had no reboots. But I want new recovery nonetheless
I'm not exactly sure why its been overheating, I've noticed its been like this since I rooted. I've tried multiple roms, all 4.2.1 so I'm not sure if its that. Either its messing around in the camera, browsing the web, or in the system settings changing settings it usually begins to heat up.
What can I do to fix heating issue? Its usually 100+ temp.
Have you messed with CPU frequencies or voltages? If you OC, that can make your phone get hot. Or having your brightness high for a long period of time can as well. Your phone might also just not like certain kernels. Try going back to stock via Odin and see if it goes back to normal.
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Have you messed with CPU frequencies or voltages? If you OC, that can make your phone get hot. Or having your brightness high for a long period of time can as well. Your phone might also just not like certain kernels. Try going back to stock via Odin and see if it goes back to normal.
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I haven't OC but because of the heating I've tried under clocking. The tempt stay below 100 but, the phone became sluggish. Lower the brightness does have an impact on the temp. but it only slows it down compared to when it quickly became hot using applications.
I'm not exactly sure how kernels work but would I be able to use the samsung stock kernel on my AOKP rom while still keeping the features I'm already using?
You might actually have a faulty phone. You're the third person I know with an overheating issue. But the only difference is you are rooted. everyone else is actually stock and they have just bought their phones recently. One phone was only a day or two old and the other was under 3 months old. There is a chance you may have a faulty phone. But who knows.
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Are you doing this while charging the phone? Also your area might be very humid and hot bunch of stuff could contribute.
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