Ok so heres my experience over the first week of having googles flagship phone...
1) When i first got the device home and turned it on It auto downloaded like 50 apps that i had installed on my sgs which i didnt want it to do...
2) when ever i scrolled through the app drawer the first 2 pages was fine but when i scrolled to the 3rd page the launcher would force close every time. A battery pull didnt fix the problem either... Luckily i got an update to 4.0.2 about 30 minutes after the device was on which got rid of that problem...
3) Now that im on 4.0.2 sometimes when im leaving the app drawer to go back to the homescreen the launcher will freeze for a few seconds between the zoom out transition so i see half of thr app drawer and half of the homescreen. This happens completely random and i cant reproduce it.
4) I have just been looking on the market and my screen just shut itself off... I couldnt turn the phone back on through the power button and i had to long press the power button to turn the phone back on. Basically the phone just died for no reason.
I love this phone and ICS but i just wish it would work how its supposed to.
Each of these little things is adding up and starting to ruin the experience.
What makes it worse is that i have seen other people with these same problems.
This is googles latest and greatest phone to the world to show what they can do and it just doesnt work.
I understand that ICS is brand new and that its the biggest rewrite to the OS since its birth but they shouldnt be releasing phones in this state.
If this continues i will be returning my device. I hope the next update brings some majour fixes.
And BTW im 100% stock.
Stock 4.0.2 GSM version have not experienced a single issue you have.
The one thing I can say is this is a developer phone and its just gonna have bugs. Its probably not what you want to hear but that's kinda how it is : /
martonikaj said:
Stock 4.0.2 GSM version have not experienced a single issue you have.
The one thing I can say is this is a developer phone and its just gonna have bugs. Its probably not what you want to hear but that's kinda how it is : /
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Yeah i understand that.
When i first read about other people with random reboots and stuff i was like damn that sucks im glad that hasnt happened to me... But alas it has happened along with the other issues mentioned.
I might have to return it but even then they will probably just sen it away for 2 weeks and reflash it.
I just want it to work to its full potential.
As i said i know its the first versions of ICS and i expect a bit of problems until they iron out the creases but the list is just getting longer. Ive only had the phone like a week.
first off... put down ur phone...
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look... no android device is perfect... you knew this buying the phone...
android is a work in progress... it is still one of the newest OS's out there.
of course ics has faults... its not near perfect yet... no worries... slowly it is going to get better and better...
look... unlock that bootloader of yours... and install a custom rom
most people and my self are using AOKP, install a custom kernal... Lean kernal and franco kernal are great choices...
custom roms usually preform better than stock...
relax... try it out...
im 100 percent sure this will fix your problems or any doubts u might have.
It sounds to me like the OP should just get rid of the Gnex and buy and iPhone. ICS is new! It will be buggy at first. Each update will bring a more stable and better all around experience. Like Radsolutionz said, unlock the bootloader, install Clockworkmod Recovery, and get to flashing a custom Rom. Most custom Roms are 4.0.3 which works better than 4.0.2. Just be patient my friend. It will get better as Google releases updates to ICS.
Yeah i know i know.
I just hope it gets better soon lolz.
Im trying to keep this one stock as long as possible.
Dont get me wrong im no stranger to flashing roms. I flashed hundreds on my sgs but i just want to keep this one stock for the first few months.
fingers crossed that the next update isnt too far away and this will fix these problems.
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It sounds to me like the OP should just get rid of the Gnex and buy and iPhone. ICS is new! It will be buggy at first. Each update will bring a more stable and better all around experience. Like Radsolutionz said, unlock the bootloader, install Clockworkmod Recovery, and get to flashing a custom Rom. Most custom Roms are 4.0.3 which works better than 4.0.2. Just be patient my friend. It will get better as Google releases updates to ICS.
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I would rather go back to a nokia 3210 then get an iphone!
As i said in the post above im no stranger to flashing roms and kernels and playing with the build props etc but im trying to avoid that for the time being.
I would just like to point out that #1 is not a problem at all, it is a feature all android phones have, when activating a new phone it automaticly syncs everything from the last phone to the new one, if u didn't want that to happen then u shouldn't have checked the box to restore all Google information or whatever the message is when u first setup the phone, should probably delete it...
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#1 is your fault, when you sign into your Google account, it specifically asks you if you want to backup your data (app data, wifi passwords, and other settings) and/or Automatic restore apps and user data.
Don't give him such a hard time he loves his phone. I was disappointed to I also had random stuff happen but now its all settled down and battery life is great. Give the phone time to adjust and delete as many apps as you don't really need. It could be a bad app that's causing the problem.
If you still don't like it sell it and get something else .
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#1 is your fault, when you sign into your Google account, it specifically asks you if you want to backup your data (app data, wifi passwords, and other settings) and/or Automatic restore apps and user data.
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i dont know but i just had to reply.
1) When i first got the device home and turned it on It auto downloaded like 50 apps that i had installed on my sgs which i didnt want it to do...
as said by other member, do that. OR go quickly to market > my apps, and press the 'X' to stop all progress. yeah it stops all.
2) when ever i scrolled through the app drawer the first 2 pages was fine but when i scrolled to the 3rd page the launcher would force close every time. A battery pull didnt fix the problem either... Luckily i got an update to 4.0.2 about 30 minutes after the device was on which got rid of that problem...
i'm sure you have this rare problem as others did not but glad it worked out.
3) Now that im on 4.0.2 sometimes when im leaving the app drawer to go back to the homescreen the launcher will freeze for a few seconds between the zoom out transition so i see half of thr app drawer and half of the homescreen. This happens completely random and i cant reproduce it.
same as number 2. if you got a slight lag opening the app drawer, its normal.
4) I have just been looking on the market and my screen just shut itself off... I couldnt turn the phone back on through the power button and i had to long press the power button to turn the phone back on. Basically the phone just died for no reason.
This is very normal in many smartphones. Even iphones have this. Had to do hard reboot for my gf's iphone 4 a few times since she buy it a year ago. so with ICS/Android or whatever still a new OS, its understandable. i dont know what OS you use on your PC/laptop, but if you use Windows, you know this is normal. hehe.
anyway, to my experience, I had this while on SGS2, and Desire while on Beta builds. Never had any trouble with stable builds with Nexus S, Gnex, SGS2, TF, Desire unless I played around with UV/OC. oh and while on AOKP Gnex, i had it once(just remembered now).
I think OP needs to update to 4.0.4. That solved allot of software issues for me. The whole thing with apps installing happens on any android phone if you select the option when setting up.
No no i mean im 99.9% sure i unchecked the box because i didnt want it to download all of my old apps, It downloaded superuser and titanium backup and adfree and all the rest that i didnt want it to lol.
maybe i didnt but im pretty sure i did.
As i said i LOVE this phone and im still happy with it despite these things and have no trouble keeping it for 2 years. Its just a bit dissapointing at the minute with the bugs.
I was just thinking maybe i got one of the "dodgy" devices and would be better of taking it back for a new one.
I will wait for the next update first and see if that fixes the problems.
I dont want to mess flashing custom kernels etc just to mess undoing it all.
by the sounds of it 4.0.3 and 4.0.4 are a big improvement over 4.0.2 so i look forward to get that little you have an update window on my phone
thanks for replies guys. Made me feel a little better
Don't worry, I unchecked the box too and it downloaded everything I had on my Xoom instead of my R2D2 D2. My gnex rebooted randomly and is nowhere near as stable as my Droid 1. And for all of you apologists exclaiming that this is a developer phone, well guess what? 6 weeks in, Googlerola decided "not anymore because CDMA is too hard."
Screw them. I'm going back to a phone that isn't so smart that making calls is beneath it when my contract is up and getting a decent laptop. It's a nice phone when it works but I didn't pay the development community to fix the gross design flaws and production oversights that the people I did give my money to caused to such a device with so much potential. I don't want have to rely on some kid in a basement somewhere to make my $600 phone work. Google/Samsung/Motorola should actually cut these modders a check for cleaning up their messes.
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As for 2 and 3, have you ever considered that your phone could be a lemon? I am running stock 4.0.1 and the worst I have experienced was random reboot once a week.
Hey.
I totally get where the OPs coming from. I've got multiple posts on issues I've had. Just some really annoying **** that has really made this a flaky experience. I love this phone just like you man and I'm trying sooo hard not to return it. I've had 3 replacements now and its been like a month. I'm probably just real picky but he's got some points there, why release this if its clearly not ready. I had a 3gs once and I really don't want to go back. The iPhone 4s combined with the latest ios is, and I even can't believe I (me) is saying this but, not toooo bad. I mean, you can actually change your SMS tone now!!! Nice work apple, although other phones have had that option standard for like a billion years! Haha. Anyway, going off track here... yeah dude, I'm not sure if the problems I'm having are just gremlins (which by forums they are) or I have a 4th faulty unit. My other 3 were for the most part probably fine, that's the problem, YOU DONT KNOW!
But by the sounds of it, and I'm sort if happy to hear it is that it is gremlins. I do also want a phone that just f'king works and does what its told. It this phone did that, it would probably be the best phone I've ever owned.
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zolah said:
1) When i first got the device home and turned it on It auto downloaded like 50 apps that i had installed on my sgs which i didnt want it to do...
2) when ever i scrolled through the app drawer the first 2 pages was fine but when i scrolled to the 3rd page the launcher would force close every time. A battery pull didnt fix the problem either... Luckily i got an update to 4.0.2 about 30 minutes after the device was on which got rid of that problem...
3) Now that im on 4.0.2 sometimes when im leaving the app drawer to go back to the homescreen the launcher will freeze for a few seconds between the zoom out transition so i see half of thr app drawer and half of the homescreen. This happens completely random and i cant reproduce it.
4) I have just been looking on the market and my screen just shut itself off... I couldnt turn the phone back on through the power button and i had to long press the power button to turn the phone back on. Basically the phone just died for no reason.
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1.) YOU CHOSE to "backup/restore apps to/from Google's servers". It was a check box when setting up the phone.
2.) That is strange, never had this problem. And I didn't make it out the Verizon store w/o the 4.0.2 update so I really was never on anything before that.
3.) I also experience a little lag here and there with 4.0.2. Now that I'm on 4.0.4 I NEVER have a problem with it. Also, install spare parts, set screen transitions and other things like that to "fast" for a little added speed boost.
$.) Nobody likes the sleep of death, fortunately I haven't had this problem. Again, most of my time with this phone I have been on 4.0.4. I highly recommend you upgrade if possible.
martonikaj said:
Stock 4.0.2 GSM version have not experienced a single issue you have.
The one thing I can say is this is a developer phone and its just gonna have bugs. Its probably not what you want to hear but that's kinda how it is : /
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So not true. I love my GNex, but the reboot issues are very annoying. And it's not because it's a 'developer phone'. If that's the case they need to stop plastering advertisements in major media outlets and TV commercials saying how great the phone is and instead putting disclaimers that it has annoying problems and 'we'll fix them when we get around to it'.
I love nexus phones and Android and I've stuck by them since the launch of the G1, but they still have problems and making excuses for them using these silly arguments is not how they should be addressed. I seriously hope they did not release this phone to the public knowing about these reboot issues. But it seems that way. Either that or the QA process is badly broken.
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I don't understand all the "it's a developer phone" posts.
It is marketed as consumer device and for me, it's a very good consumer phone.
I may be totally lucky, but I never had a single issue with this phone so far.
My Desire HD used to have issues like freezes, gps problems etc. The GNEX does not. At least for me...
I agree that an Iphone is even a little more polished. But that doesn't mean you need to be an android developer or cook custom roms every day to like the GNEX.
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I started using adw launcher ex and widgetlocker last night (good thing I couldn't sleep ) and am loving them to bits and pieces. one thing, though...
the home screen redraw thing is starting to get on my nerves. it's not so bad when using the home key to jump to the home screen, since I back out using the back key (close the app, save the ram), but even if I let it sleep long enough, it'll lag on redraw when I unlock it -_-
I've seen a fix on the internet that looks tempting but it requires that i root my phone; call me a coward, but my ill-experiences with this sort of thing have left me with no intention of doing so in the near future. any other solutions?
hellloooooo?
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hellloooooo?
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Well, I have this problem too sometimes. A reboot could help, and it just disappears for me after a while...
Then again, if it doesn't work and you want to root your phone, you could always post here. I'm sure you'll be helped quickly.
One last thing: Do you have a link to the video? Might be helpful later on
for now, disabling and uninstalling widget locker () has solved the problem. but then, the problem practically wasn't there when i first installed, so i wouldn't consider this case closed just yet
and i know i'll find help with rooting at xda, it's just that if i can brick my phone simply updating the firmware, who knows what i'll do while rooting? plus, there's still 2 months in my warranty, so if i ever decide to root, i'll let the warranty run out first
as for the fix, it wasn't really a video. search the forum (not the samsung galaxy s one) and you'll find it. but in any case, i have the link right here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=932820
if you've rooted your phone, this fix is apparently guaranteed to fix (lol) the problem, which is why it's so tempting
PondaRox said:
for now, disabling and uninstalling widget locker () has solved the problem. but then, the problem practically wasn't there when i first installed, so i wouldn't consider this case closed just yet
and i know i'll find help with rooting at xda, it's just that if i can brick my phone simply updating the firmware, who knows what i'll do while rooting? plus, there's still 2 months in my warranty, so if i ever decide to root, i'll let the warranty run out first
as for the fix, it wasn't really a video. search the forum (not the samsung galaxy s one) and you'll find it. but in any case, i have the link right here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=932820
if you've rooted your phone, this fix is apparently guaranteed to fix (lol) the problem, which is why it's so tempting
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How did you try to upgrade your phone? Because, when I tried to do it with KIES, I bricked it too. Now, with ODIN, I don't worry about that anymore, once you know, it's easy.
Anyhow, thanks for the link.
flashing; relax, the mistakes were mine
and you're welcome
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Tapatalking from my GT-i9003
i'm happy to report no problems in the hours since i deleted widget locker
but who knows when redraw lag will rear it's ugly head again? i'll wake this thread back up if that happens
by the way, i have another question, might as well ask it right here
have you had your phone just randomly restart while using adw launcher? because this morning, when i woke up, i heard that sound that plays when you plug your phone into the charger (i left it on there in the middle of the night). i figure it might have been a random reboot, but will take any other theory (heck, i'd LOVE to. i thought i was through with my phone randomly rebooting -_-)
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by the way, i have another question, might as well ask it right here
have you had your phone just randomly restart while using adw launcher? because this morning, when i woke up, i heard that sound that plays when you plug your phone into the charger (i left it on there in the middle of the night). i figure it might have been a random reboot, but will take any other theory (heck, i'd LOVE to. i thought i was through with my phone randomly rebooting -_-)
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Ummm... I never had that with ADW.
However, some ROMs do have problems with random reboots.
mine is stock JPKE1
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I've been having some pretty big issues with this phone ...it's unrooted running stock ITL41F still on 4.0.1 in the UK
Its been 7 days that I've owned this phone now. And few times it has just crashed. I could be in the middle of typing something, or anything else just coming out of an app, and the screen will freeze go black. And done! Crashed.
And crashed such that it doesn't start I have to take the battery out and reboot. It just dies. It happened a few times but I was setting my phone up so I let it go but now this is just downright annoying. It happens once in two days or so.
Second, and this is even worse. The phone is not dying but goes in a sort of coma. The screen becomes unresponsive.. and the keyboard doesn't work!! And in most apps only selective touch input works...let's say in whatsapp I was talking to a friend and it was working okay but suddenly it stopped accepting my input for a new mesg. And then I couldn't open another chat. Lots of things started being unresponsive...
I went to the home screen and even the Google search bar ..when I clicked on it the keyboard came up ( which it wasn't coming while middle of whatsapp chat) but it didn't accept any input.
I tool the battery out. Rebooted. And it worked initially but then after a few minutes. Exact same problem.
Rebooted again. But again same problem !! That was a bit of a horror really
Right now it seems to be accepting my text input but ... really don't know what the heck is going on for both these issues above. Any advise will be appreciated
Also yeah I do have quite a few apps installed on this device ... considering its stock ROM this should be safest against a vulnerability but any advise on if I should install one of those anti virus apps on it? Or any sorts of apps that I should avoid which cause such major stability issues with ur phone ??
Cheers
Dhruv
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I've only experienced few of your issues.
Coma and reboot happened a couple of time while I was on 4.0.1.
But since getting 4.0.2 a few weeks ago those issues went away.
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4.0.2 ftw.
My grandma beat me down and took my nexus. Sent from a jitterbug with beats by dre.
There are a few threads here with people experiencing similar problems. My screen goes black and also requires a battery pull.
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4.0.2 ftw.
My grandma beat me down and took my nexus. Sent from a jitterbug with beats by dre.
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4.0.3 ftw. Either flash a custom rom or get the 4 0.2 update to help with your problem.
Definitely a software issue that you're having.
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I refuse to believe it is 4.0.1 it has been long delayed in the UK
That wouldn't be the case by Google if it was fixing such serious stability issues with the phone
Why do you come here doling out suggestions when you have no clue?
I am having the same problem again now everything is very slow and even the keyboard doesn't open in even Google search most functions unresponsive
And now most apps are force closing on me
IMDB and now xda app too. The phone is half dead the back buttons don't work either
This is the same thing that happened earlier in the day when I posted, and then the phone worked okay but now its back killing my phone
Anyone has any clue what could be going on ? Also this is the GSM version in the UK on 4.0.1 so only if you have a clue please respond else thank you very much
Now even settings page says its not responding
I can post on xda and it works but when I press back that doesnt.
Back doesn't work in any screens. The settings page not working was a classic screenshot will attach here from a PC.
Sorry for the continues rant folks. Just giving as much info as I can to those knowledgeable folks who might be able to help
The crashes arent stopping ..and the 4.0.3 isn't coming to the UK for some reason either ( which leads me to believe that it has some fixes for LTE which isn't available here anyway)
Aren't other users in the UK facing this crash problem - like once in 2 days or so??
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Uninstall some of the apps you've downloaded that run in background. Battery Monitory was causing my phone to randomly reboot every other day or so. I uninstalled it and it was fine.
If that doesn't work, there's always Factory Reset.
I've updated from a rooted stock GB ROM to the ICS update. I'm surprised this is the update Sprint/Samsung released for the phone. The GB ROM was stable and clean, this one seems to have some issues... primarily:
1) Battery life is 6-7 hours LESS - at least.
One thing I've noticed here is that "Android OS" is using about half of the battery. Previously (and confirmed with my buddy with his GSIII), this only used about 4% or 5% . I suspect this is a culprit.
I've attached some screenshots showing this.
Almost no use of the phone all day, I was at work - some light texting later in the day. So little that SMS or GoSMS don't even appear on the chart.
2) Swype keyboard issues.
Yes, you can clear your app cache for swype and get it to work. However, you apparently can't get copy/paste/select word/select all to work.
When you click on text and click the little handle that appears, only a small box appears above, which is where the menu should be for copy/paste/select word/select all should be. At least I think that's the options - from memory, since I don't have them any more. :crying:
I've attached a screenshot showing this.
[EDIT: This is a usage issue - I consider this more difficult than before, and quirky in that it doesn't always work, but generally if you press and hold text, it'll open an edit panel where the notification bar is. Sometimes double-clicking works.]
3) Signal issues.
Again using the Battery screen - I'm seeing some very odd patterns both with carrier data signal and wifi. Previously, carrier signal was an uninterrupted line, of varying shades of green that corresopnded to signal strength. Now, when I look at this line, there's some very good sized breaks in it. That's a sharp contrast to how it used to be.
I know that searching for signal can use battery - maybe an issue with the radio? modem?
Same for wifi - I used to have a setting for "wifi off when screen off". Now it's gone, or changed - I see a "wifi on while sleep" that is checked. Despite this setting remaining constant, I see periods where that seems to be happening (later), but also a long period where wifi is active despite the screen off.
I've attached a screenshot showing this. See the "mobile network signal" line in the plot.
4) General, observed quirkiness.
Screen not being as responsive. When I press the power button on my phone now, it takes 2 or 4 seconds for the screen to activate. Touching the screen sometimes results in a very laggy response... enough time to poke the screen a second time. Skippy/unsmooth screen transitions in some cases. I've had GoSMS vanish on me a couple times and I had to relaunch it. Other apps become unresponsive and I've had to hit the home button repeatedly - sometimes 10-15 seconds before the phone comes back to the home screen and out of that app.
The screen captures were taken throughout the day - the times appear on them.
I've also attached two BetterBatteryStats dump files - one of them I had all options checked, the other just the defaults. They were taken about the same time, and about the same time I took the 8 hour screen cap.
If it matters, I'm using Go Launcher EX, it's still my stock launcher. I'm noticing not many people on ICS using it - are there known problems?
This is frustrating to me - I use this phone for work, I came off an AOKP ROM to get back on a stock ROM, for two things:
1) stock stability and battery life.
2) the Exchange account options for sync scheduling (on peak/off peak schedules for sync) that only seem to be in the stock ROM.
[EDIT: I performed a full factory wipe several days ago, and reinstalled all apps via market, and still are experiencing these exact symptoms. No improvement. May restore my nandroid from before the wipe just to gain back a few things I inadvertently lost as this didn't resolve anything.]
Accordingly, I'd like to see this ROM working. Any thoughts on these?
Anyone else observing these symptoms, relative to the stock GB rom?
5) GPS changes/bugs
I've also noticed some GPS changes / bugs that I'm not liking.
The GB GPS sucked, now this one seems worse:
Driving tonight, I had to reboot my phone to stop my eternal wait for "searching for GPS" in the car. No different than I've occasionally had to do with the GB rom.
However, then when I made a couple wrong turns or deviations from the route, it got stuck on "recalculating". Eternally.
I know I was in an area with good data, because I exited the Navigation app, relaunched it and picked the last destination and it calculated the new route instantly. It didn't successfully recalculate once... three times I had to restart the navigation app.
Also - the old navigation app used to tell you "...in a quarter mile, exit on..." and "...in 100 feet, turn onto..."
This new navigation app does no such thing. It just says "turn right on _____ street". Which is useless if there's no street sign (hence several of my "recalculating" incidents).
Bump - anyone experiencing these bugs? I haven't seen them reported - any of them.
Looking for something to try to resolve one, or all of them.
Any suggestions are appreciated, thanks.
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Bump - anyone experiencing these bugs? I haven't seen them reported - any of them.
Looking for something to try to resolve one, or all of them.
Any suggestions are appreciated, thanks.
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I have had HORRIBLE battery life since the upgrade. It is worse than half of what I was getting prior to ICS
My GPS is working like a bauce though, finds my locations within seconds.
My boss got the upgrade last night and has Go Launcher and their suite of products on his device and he can't send texts now
I feel accomplished if I've stumped all of XDA... :silly:
I did discover a workaround for the copy/paste/select issue - long pressing in ICS opens a menu at the top of the screen for that.
However, still stumped on
1) 6-7 hour battery life reduction
3) signal issues
4) Quirkiness/freezing/sputtering responses
5) GPS issues - both signal and new app
Anyone else but me experiencing any others besides #1?
geoleomon - I would suggest grabbing XDA's version of Better Battery Stats, and monitoring your battery life that way rather then using the Android version.
But yes, I have experienced some of the battery issues, just no where near to that extent (maybe 4 -6 hours less).
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geoleomon - I would suggest grabbing XDA's version of Better Battery Stats, and monitoring your battery life that way rather then using the Android version.
But yes, I have experienced some of the battery issues, just no where near to that extent (maybe 4 -6 hours less).
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Where do I get that one? (I paid for the full version of the Android market version)
What's different about it?
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Where do I get that one? (I paid for the full version of the Android market version)
What's different about it?
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Nothing, except this one is free.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1179809
Hmm.. Weird I've had the ota installed for a day now and my Android os is averaging 10-15% at the most
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Nothing, except this one is free.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1179809
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I've previously posted my results from the paid full version of the app... see the original post, two text files attached.
(one complete, one over-complete)
Anything out of the ordinary in there? What should I look for?
thanks-
Another piece of the puzzle:
I was using the camera, and it crashed - an error I didn't capture but something like "media server crashed - camera must restart". Happened twice before the camera actually started OK. Perhaps significantly, I had the phone docked when I fired up the camera - desk dock.
Also, noticing that listening to music in my desk dock at work, several times now the song has just stopped playing a few seconds in, and the media player closes. I restart the music player, and everything is OK. Sometimes that happens 2 or 3 times before the player works again, and then sometimes it'll happen an hour or so later even after it does start working again.
Could this be related?
try this then report back I have none of these issues you speak of but I am generally in a good signal area. Your signal looks awful, defiantly will cause battery drain.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1721229
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try this then report back I have none of these issues you speak of but I am generally in a good signal area. Your signal looks awful, defiantly will cause battery drain.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1721229
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I used the "nodata" version of that kernel to install CWM after rooting.
This will wipe my phone, which I'm looking to avoid doing if possible, if that's not the "nodata" version I already have.
Can you clarify on what you are advising?
Interesting though - a coworker suggested possibly if I wipe my phone it might clean things up.
I have just cleared my Dalvik cache, however I believe I did this before. I'm doing this now noting that as per my prior post, I'm seeing a few things force close, or else stop suddenly (like music player) without closing.
Also using CWM to "fix permissions" (not quite sure what this means).
We'll see what my results are after this.
I'd like to get this stock ROM working well if at all possible - if for no other reason than the Exchange peak/off peak email sync settings that don't seem to exist in other ICS ROMs.
I wish a mod would sticky a battery life complaint thread and close all others. Every other thread is an ics battery life complaint.
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geolemon said:
I used the "nodata" version of that kernel to install CWM after rooting.
This will wipe my phone, which I'm looking to avoid doing if possible, if that's not the "nodata" version I already have.
Can you clarify on what you are advising?
Interesting though - a coworker suggested possibly if I wipe my phone it might clean things up.
I have just cleared my Dalvik cache, however I believe I did this before. I'm doing this now noting that as per my prior post, I'm seeing a few things force close, or else stop suddenly (like music player) without closing.
Also using CWM to "fix permissions" (not quite sure what this means).
We'll see what my results are after this.
I'd like to get this stock ROM working well if at all possible - if for no other reason than the Exchange peak/off peak email sync settings that don't seem to exist in other ICS ROMs.
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using nodata is you're problem, all of the issues you've described could be caused by using nodata, this is why it is advised in almost every roms dev thread to do a full wipe, not no data... you may be able to get away with it without any serious bugs upgrading the same rom one revision but not going from gb to ics. you need to do a full wipe and fresh flash, legacy gb app framework is causing these issues, not ics
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I wish a mod would sticky a battery life complaint thread and close all others. Every other thread is an ics battery life complaint.
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SERIOUSLY! i dont get why people come to xda to whine about the OTA, XDA is the place you come not to run stock... And half the threads that arnt about battery life/"bugs" where the poster provides only basic anecdotal "evidence" and no technical data whatsoever on FF18 are gripes about sprint and sprint related issues... have people never heard of the sprintusers forum, THATS where those complaints belong, not here
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using nodata is you're problem, all of the issues you've described could be caused by using nodata, this is why it is advised in almost every roms dev thread to do a full wipe, not no data... you may be able to get away with it without any serious bugs upgrading the same rom one revision but not going from gb to ics. you need to do a full wipe and fresh flash, legacy gb app framework is causing these issues, not ics
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Thanks for this part - however...
The very advantage of going the OTA (or at least stock - I didn't OTA it) stock route is to not clear the phone.
Samsung/Sprint spent how many months developing this, to provide an update that's supposed to be clean for existing, non-technical, non-rooted, mom & pop users. I wanted to go this route simply as the "cleanest" option. And I've got lots set up on my phone and very little time around now - I'd prefer not to lose it if I can avoid it. As much as you try to back up, and remember, and all that, every time you wipe you forget something...
It's a little bit like being a Jeep owner, and saying "you know, everyone could get away with driving a Jeep".
Sure... they could... but they wouldn't all enjoy it, and it really wouldn't fit everyone's use case.
Usually, advise like this really just reflects a lack of vision: "I can't imagine anyone who uses their phone different than ME".
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SERIOUSLY! i dont get why people come to xda to whine about the OTA, XDA is the place you come not to run stock... And half the threads that arnt about battery life/"bugs" where the poster provides only basic anecdotal "evidence" and no technical data whatsoever on FF18 are gripes about sprint and sprint related issues... have people never heard of the sprintusers forum, THATS where those complaints belong, not here
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Does this look like whining, or seeking a solution? Hey, look - the original post!
geolemon said:
...This is frustrating to me - I use this phone for work, I came off an AOKP ROM to get back on a stock ROM, for two things:
1) stock stability and battery life.
2) the Exchange account options for sync scheduling (on peak/off peak schedules for sync) that only seem to be in the stock ROM.
Accordingly, I'd like to see this ROM working. Any thoughts on these?
Anyone else observing these symptoms, relative to the stock GB rom?
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Again - seems more and more like you are a child, not only lacking maturity, but injecting your own prejudices rather than reading.
I'm seeking solutions.
And XDA is the place for options. Solutions are a subset of options.
Grow up.
I wasn't referencing you as whining at all, however this thread belongs in the Official OTA thread, not on its own, that's what the commenter prior to me and I were both refrencing- the constant new threads about the same 3 or 4 issues with the OTA when there is already a thread for it... that said you said you're seeking solutions, I offered you one that will work, I'm sorry that it displeases you, but doing a full wipe and a clean install will solve pretty much every issue you have, so backup your apps, and text messages if you want those as well, it takes less than 5 minutes in titanium backup and SMS backup, and do a clean flash or Odin (if flashing make sure you are on a safe kernel). That will fix your problems, its silly to keep asking for solutions when the best and most likely to be successful one has already been proffered.... or should you still for some reason not want to do this just unroot and take it to a sprint store, they'll do a factory reset, that'll fix all of the issues you're having. Save the time and effort and just do it yourself, no one is going to post any magic advice that'll make it all OK with nothing unchanged
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I wasn't referencing you as whining at all, however this thread belongs in the Official OTA thread, not on its own, that's what the commenter prior to me and I were both refrencing- the constant new threads about the same 3 or 4 issues with the OTA when there is already a thread for it... that said you said you're seeking solutions, I offered you one that will work, I'm sorry that it displeases you, but doing a full wipe and a clean install will solve pretty much every issue you have, so backup your apps, and text messages if you want those as well, it takes less than 5 minutes in titanium backup and SMS backup, and do a clean flash or Odin (if flashing make sure you are on a safe kernel). That will fix your problems, its silly to keep asking for solutions when the best and most likely to be successful one has already been proffered.... or should you still for some reason not want to do this just unroot and take it to a sprint store, they'll do a factory reset, that'll fix all of the issues you're having. Save the time and effort and just do it yourself, no one is going to post any magic advice that'll make it all OK with nothing unchanged
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I'll try it... just want to make that the last resort.
Wouldn't you consider it to be equivalent to just wiping/factory reset via CWM?
geolemon said:
I'll try it... just want to make that the last resort.
Wouldn't you consider it to be equivalent to just wiping/factory reset via CWM?
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yup wiping in cwm will do it, again be sure you're on a safe recovery eg. agats or chris41's... things like the force closes of music player and the malfunctioning of swipe, camera, etc, are due to coming from gb without a full wipe... i do realize its a PITA if you wanted to keep it simple, but it is what it is you know... insofar as battery I've never had a problem running ff18 based roms such as blu kuban or goodness, I've never run bone stock myself but if you continue to have issues there are tweaks, such as kobridges and phakers scrips that'll help out a lot, in addition to disabling unnecessary syncs, etc... however after giving it a few days to settle I've not had any problem getting a full day of moderate use out of ff18 based roms...
just to add a little more, fixing permissions will help a little with force closes... if you are unfamiliar with the UNIX permission system you can find some good info here ( http://www.perlfect.com/articles/chmod.shtml ), however it would still probably be best to to a wipe as it most likely won't fix all the bugaboo's you have from keeping your gb /data partition... despite what the horrid touchwiz interface would have you believe ICS is a huge step forward from GB, and that old app data can and will cause problems... lastly sorry if i came off a bit gruff, as I'm sure you've picked up I'm somewhat tired of seeing threads about the OTA, however to your credit you did post tons of concise, detailed info and were open to suggestions, I've seen similar thread where the OP just posts something akin to "ICS data sux, wtfff????" and when recognized devs tell them what they need to do they start to argue, which makes no sense to me... I was most likely taking my frustration at those threads and their apposition to the purpose of XDA out on you, for that I apologize, good luck with it and should you need further help let me know, I'd be glad to assist or at least point you in the direction of information that may help
This thread seems to have gone off the rails a bit... All the answers you seek are in development op. It requires reading though... There are roms and explanations for every problem you listed. If you say no they're not... Then you have not taken the time to read... Simple as that... I am a developer here and no one taught me anything. I READ AND LEARNED IT. i have a family and a life and the whole bag... So there are no exscuses. I challenge you to take the time to read and learn and give back. Maybe YOU can find the answera to your questions and post the answers here so you can help someone else who will post this and that doesnt work (but does, they just didnt read and learn how to fix it). Because as soon as you post it someone else will have the same complaints and questions and will be to lazy to search...
I got my phone last monday and today my phone was lagging while swipping through home screens, app drawer and even in settings. It was like project butter was shutdown and I was back to the epic 4g. Thought kind strange giving the specs on this phone.. I have stock jb and no root.
After a restart everything went back to normal.
Just curious, does this happen to everyone here? Is this normal to happen after 2-3 days of use?
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I got my phone last monday and today my phone was lagging while swipping through home screens, app drawer and even in settings. It was like project butter was shutdown and I was back to the epic 4g. Thought kind strange giving the specs on this phone.. I have stock jb and no root.
After a restart everything went back to normal.
Just curious, does this happen to everyone here? Is this normal to happen after 2-3 days of use?
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You must not be actually closing apps just hitting home I assume but if not then idk the problem
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Yes I did close them... I even tried force closing all. Not sure why the phone was struggling a little.
you didn't enable power saving mode by any chance?
also, android should be fairly good at managing your memory. i believe google doesn't really recommend task killers because whenever you kill tasks that the OS needs, it'll just reload it, which itself consumes resources (maybe more resource than letting the process simply idle). so just leave those processes alone.
Are you running SetCPU? Make sure it didn't accidentally severely under clock you. That happened to me once and SETCPU was running me at 200 mhz for some reason.
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teco2010 said:
I got my phone last monday and today my phone was lagging while swipping through home screens, app drawer and even in settings. It was like project butter was shutdown and I was back to the epic 4g. Thought kind strange giving the specs on this phone.. I have stock jb and no root.
After a restart everything went back to normal.
Just curious, does this happen to everyone here? Is this normal to happen after 2-3 days of use?
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I would double check on all the apps you've previously installed. I'm still on stock JB unrooted as well since released day (Oct 25), not once I've experience any lag that yours producing. Heck I've loaded a bunch of games and apps now my main storage is down to a gig, even then I haven't noticed any slow down. This phone is a beast thats all I can say.
teco2010 said:
I got my phone last monday and today my phone was lagging while swipping through home screens, app drawer and even in settings. It was like project butter was shutdown and I was back to the epic 4g. Thought kind strange giving the specs on this phone.. I have stock jb and no root.
After a restart everything went back to normal.
Just curious, does this happen to everyone here? Is this normal to happen after 2-3 days of use?
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Yeah, thats unfortunate because if anything the phone should speed up after a few days of use. Why don't you just keep it to the 1 thread you started in the GT 7100 forum? You already got 4 pages of responses there. And post a video of what you're talking about because the phone should not lag at all with power savings off.
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I would double check on all the apps you've previously installed. I'm still on stock JB unrooted as well since released day (Oct 25), not once I've experience any lag that yours producing. Heck I've loaded a bunch of games and apps now my main storage is down to a gig, even then I haven't noticed any slow down. This phone is a beast thats all I can say.
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I agree, i'm leaning towards user error in his case. This phone is on constant steroids.
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Yeah, thats unfortunate because if anything the phone should speed up after a few days of use. Why don't you just keep it to the 1 thread you started in the GT 7100 forum? You already got 4 pages of responses there. And post a video of what you're talking about because the phone should not lag at all with power savings off.
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I didn't strat a thread there... just replied to one and it was a different are of problem anyway..
Guys.. I didn't install any task killer, I just force off using that long pressing home button and going into running apps, the phone, no power saving mode on, still unrooted and very few apps. I use Android for 3 years and I looked all the places to make sure settings would not be causing this and it was not.
Really weird problem... it's fine now I just hope it keeps running this way by tomorrow.. I'll let you all know, if anything I'll make a video if I can reproduce.
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I didn't strat a thread there... just replied to one and it was a different are of problem anyway..
Guys.. I didn't install any task killer, I just force off using that long pressing home button and going into running apps, the phone, no power saving mode on, still unrooted and very few apps. I use Android for 3 years and I looked all the places to make sure settings would not be causing this and it was not.
Really weird problem... it's fine now I just hope it keeps running this way by tomorrow.. I'll let you all know, if anything I'll make a video if I can reproduce.
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Don't close the apps down just back out of them because you'll lag more when your phone sits there trying to open them all up again and cache them. But I agree its a strange problem, if this occurs againit might be something very specific.
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teco2010 said:
I didn't strat a thread there... just replied to one and it was a different are of problem anyway..
Guys.. I didn't install any task killer, I just force off using that long pressing home button and going into running apps, the phone, no power saving mode on, still unrooted and very few apps. I use Android for 3 years and I looked all the places to make sure settings would not be causing this and it was not.
Really weird problem... it's fine now I just hope it keeps running this way by tomorrow.. I'll let you all know, if anything I'll make a video if I can reproduce.
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That's strange. Yeah I would pay close attention to the problem and if it do come back, then maybe you probably have a bad note II. You never know, not everything are created equal. In that case I would take it in for a repair person to check it out.
Is there a way to know if all cores are running on stock Android?
I've also seen some sick battery life in this phone, but not on mine. Yesterday I got 12 hours with about 3 1/2 of screen, with few and short phone calls. What I used the most on this phone was the internet and the browser..
Not sure if these are related.
EDIT.... I installed CPU usage Monitoring and the 4th core stays off most of the time.. when I opened videos and messed with more apps it started working so I'm answering myself on that. Also, I played a video with the pop up function and the cpu only gets to about 30% and not even on all cores... wow.. the processing power here is really impressive.
teco2010 said:
Is there a way to know if all cores are running on stock Android?
I've also seen some sick battery life in this phone, but not on mine. Yesterday I got 12 hours with about 3 1/2 of screen, with few and short phone calls. What I used the most on this phone was the internet and the browser..
Not sure if these are related.
EDIT.... I installed CPU usage Monitoring and the 4th core stays off most of the time.. when I opened videos and messed with more apps it started working so I'm answering myself on that. Also, I played a video with the pop up function and the cpu only gets to about 30% and not even on all cores... wow.. the processing power here is really impressive.
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Check this video this guy posted.
Ashton_Durkhun said:
That's nothing, take a look at this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9nh2NSLgaII&feature=player_embedded
The note 2 is AMAZINGLY powerful!
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Check this video this guy posted.
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Even though I would never use a phone like that, still very impressive...
I'm not sure what is going wrong with my phone for the last months, but the OTA that a 4.0.4. gets isn't sticking with my GNex. I didn't care, I was happy with 4.0.4. But now I got the hang of this flashing stuff I'm feeling a bit wild and I would like CM10 on my GNex. I was happy with CM on my Nexus S a while ago and it started to annoy me that I got this OTA message nagging me every time I rebooted the phone. So I installed CWM and its recovery boots when I choose recovery boot. Did a backup of my phone, since I was in the area, and thought, what the heck, why not, let's get this CM show on the road.
But then my head said to my heart, what in the lords name are you doing?! First ask the wise men if you're doin' it right! So, am I able to flash the stable CM10 rom without any problem or am I bricking the phone this way?
And will I lose all my data when I flash? When I flashed CleanRom on my TF300 it kept all apps and settings, so I was hoping that my settings/installs/data would survive a flash of my GNex with CM10...
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I just went full HD loco on its a-- and slapped it on. Worked like a charm, lots of data remained in the memory (if not all), but all settings and apps were lost. Now trying to put back the backup I made earlier, let's see how much of a back up this really is.
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This really is a full backup. The thing went back exactly the same as it was! Pretty awesome if you ask me, but of course you all knew this already. Nevermind me, I was just passing through. Time to set up my phone for usage the coming year or so. Thank you for letting me use this as a notebook!
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One big downer on this operation: I have to install every single app one by one again... A lot of work!
Nice, you went and done it yourself, and updated your first post as you were going through it. Thank you. Actually, I had seen you first edit it, and I waited a little bit longer to see what you would do. Now, any questions?
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bk201doesntexist said:
Nice, you went and done it yourself, and updated your first post as you were going through it. Thank you. Actually, I had seen you first edit it, and I waited a little bit longer to see what you would do. Now, any questions?
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No questions really, just had fun doing something scary. I hope someone with the same question finds my thread and finds it useful. I know I will when I plan on getting frisky with my GNex the next time I want to flash something, because I keep forgetting the steps I took doing stuff like this.
Only thing that's really a turnoff is reinstalling every app again, because Google thinks it's a different device. Any workarounds for that perhaps? (Still found something to quest about!)
Edit: Damn this CM10 is one slick mf! I love CM10! Should have done this way earlier...