So I am curious if anyone knows if this is possible or if one is even available. I am wondering if their is a memory card reader that you can connect to the micro USB port on he Kindle Fire and be able to transfer lets say pictures o your Kindle Fire?
The reason I ask this is I go hunting and we got a new Field Camera and I would like to be able to take the memory card out of the field camera and copy the pictures to my Kindle Fire to view.
Thank you in advance
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So I am curious if anyone knows if this is possible or if one is even available. I am wondering if their is a memory card reader that you can connect to the micro USB port on he Kindle Fire and be able to transfer lets say pictures o your Kindle Fire?
The reason I ask this is I go hunting and we got a new Field Camera and I would like to be able to take the memory card out of the field camera and copy the pictures to my Kindle Fire to view.
Thank you in advance
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Nope.
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Nope.
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Oh! That explains it!
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Haha. Yes, he did a great job.
The answer, not currently. What you are describing is your kindle acting as usb host. For an accessory to be host, it has to impliment a Protocol called usb on the go or usb otg. It appears as if our hardware supports this, but no guarantees yet. A few have tried to enable this on their custom kernels, but no one has succeeded yet. I hope this more properly answers your question. If someone successfully enables usb otg what you suggested could, ane would likely, be possible.
Android also announced a new standard call Android Open Accessory last year, but I haven't found any products making use of it aside from development boards. Here's the introductory paragraph from developers.android.com USB accessory page:
USB accessory mode allows users to connect USB host hardware specifically designed for Android-powered devices. The accessories must adhere to the Android accessory protocol outlined in the Android Accessory Development Kit documentation. This allows Android-powered devices that cannot act as a USB host to still interact with USB hardware. When an Android-powered device is in USB accessory mode, the attached Android USB accessory acts as the host, provides power to the USB bus, and enumerates connected devices. Android 3.1 (API level 12) supports USB accessory mode and the feature is also backported to Android 2.3.4 (API level 10) to enable support for a broader range of devices.
So if all else fails, I'd still expect to see some devices using AOA hit the market in the not-too-distant future. A keyboard with a sd card slot and a couple usb ports on it would be pretty awesome
This is being worked on in the ics builds. Its in an alpha stage i believe that it works to an extent right now. Should work completely soon, i think its in cm9_2_24
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That Baker Guy said:
This is being worked on in the ics builds. Its in an alpha stage i believe that it works to an extent right now. Should work completely soon, i think its in cm9_2_24
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I'm running the 2/24 build and looked around to see where it might be mounting a storage device, but I don't see it. For example, USB OTG is enabled on my Galaxy S2 and mounts storage devices on /sdcard/usbStorage. I've even tried creating that mount point on the Kindle Fire, but nothing happens. Do you have any more details?
im sorry, i mis-read the post on that, he stated that he was working on it, and it wasnt included in this build, my fault. that being said it shouldnt be too long before it is uploaded and made into an update here is the post about usb otg
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=22929227&postcount=2230
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im sorry, i mis-read the post on that, he stated that he was working on it, and it wasnt included in this build, my fault. that being said it shouldnt be too long before it is uploaded and made into an update here is the post about usb otg
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=22929227&postcount=2230
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No harm no foul. I thought I missed something or you had some insider knowledge that would let me test it for myself. Maybe just a little wishful thinking on both of our parts. In any case, it will be a great feature addition to the Kindle Fire if/when it becomes available.
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No harm no foul. I thought I missed something or you had some insider knowledge that would let me test it for myself. Maybe just a little wishful thinking on both of our parts. In any case, it will be a great feature addition to the Kindle Fire if/when it becomes available.
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yeah, ive been waiting for this for a while, given our limited storage capacity, usb host would be useful.
I second that. It would be nice to be able to use micro usb accessories but luckily they are working on making this a reality with the CM9 port for KF
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Hi everyone, quick word to all that these are working with the SGSII. No need to wait until Samsung release them in 1-2 months, and at 6x the price!
Clove Blog will have my video proof up in a couple of hours.
Only enough power to supply pendrives, but drives with their own power supplies, or drives connected to the phone via an externally powered HUB, will work.
Read speeds are fast enough to watch 1080p content.
Unfortunately USB keyboard/mouse, and two different USB gamepads were a fail.
If only I knew a place I could post this where there might be devs around who could read it and make USB gamepad support happen...
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Hi everyone, quick word to all that these are working with the SGSII. No need to wait until Samsung release them in 1-2 months, and at 6x the price!
Clove Blog will have my video proof up in a couple of hours.
Only enough power to supply pendrives, but drives with their own power supplies, or drives connected to the phone via an externally powered HUB, will work.
Read speeds are fast enough to watch 1080p content.
Unfortunately USB keyboard/mouse, and two different USB gamepads were a fail.
If only I knew a place I could post this where there might be devs around who could read it and make USB gamepad support happen...
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Thanks mate, just bought it...
No worries!
Did you see the official ones are priced to sell at like 12pounds!
can it work with a memory card reader?
If the card reader doesn't draw too much power. I tried with one and it didn't work, but if I plug it into my externally powered USB hub then it works fine.
Updated first post with the requisite video proof.
Do you have a link for that dell keyboard & mouse you used in the video?.. it looks great
The Dell Mouse is freely available, I got mine for a song on Ebay.
The keyboard is awesome, but sadly no longer made. Its a Dell-branded 'iGo Stowaway Ultraslim" keyboard, has a truly great hinge mechanism and folds down to next to nothing. You may be able to find it somewhere, but last time I checked I couldn't find any. There are lots of cheap HID profile BT keyboards out there, check my thread in the Galaxy S forums - lots of people confirmed various ones working.
Amazing! excellent video and info
it was nice to also demo the BT keyboard & mouse
thanks
OP, thank you!
Are you rooted? Anything special needed to do the bluetooth? Anything special other than the adapter cable needed for the USB memory stick?
@OP = great post and very informative video
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OP, thank you!
Are you rooted? Anything special needed to do the bluetooth? Anything special other than the adapter cable needed for the USB memory stick?
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Yep, its Rooted, but that was only for app restoration. There are no mods or hacks applied, everything you're seeing is stock functionality.
would this work on a galaxy s 1? if anyone knows
0utkast said:
would this work on a galaxy s 1? if anyone knows
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or desire ;p
I don't think either the Desire or the Galaxy S will do USB OTG (although the Desire may have it baked into a custom ROM, because I know it was enabled in the Nexus 1 with a mod, I don't know enough about Desire custom ROMs to know).
The original Galaxy S does support bluetooth keyboard and mouse though (I have a demo of that in my youtube channel also).
Quick ?
Can you use the BT keyboard without the virtual one popping up?
Hope they release the USB on the go cable ASAP!!!. Thank you very much for the video, it made me get more ansious to get one of this cables and be able to connect my external hard drive full of MKV files.
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Hope they release the USB on the go cable ASAP!!!. Thank you very much for the video, it made me get more ansious to get one of this cables and be able to connect my external hard drive full of MKV files.
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The first post links to ebay which has cables that work already. They are not OEM but do the trick
NZ, grats check this out
http://www.talkandroid.com/40821-sa...ndard-usb-otg-cable-for-usb-on-the-go-access/
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Great news....
So I have a question I got a kindle fire mostly for school. I have not rooted yet(waiting for my prime trial to expire haha) but when I got it I had no Idea USB keyboards were not compatible. What I wanna know is if the keyboards are not compatible due to the, from my understanding, extremely modded gingerbread that the fire comes with or if once I root to an ics rom will the keyboards be compatible.
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You can try, but make sure you get a nice, stable ics rom. If none are obsolete, get CM7 from JackpotClavin's thread. However, the keyboard must be one designed for a tablet with micro USB support. If it doesn't work, I could probably piece together a driver..but let's not get carried away yet I'd get the right keyboard and a rom first. Let me know how it goes Oh, I almost forgot, it should be a limitation from the extremely modified gingerbread os
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You can try, but make sure you get a nice, stable ics rom. If none are obsolete, get CM7 from JackpotClavin's thread. However, the keyboard must be one designed for a tablet with micro USB support. If it doesn't work, I could probably piece together a driver..but let's not get carried away yet I'd get the right keyboard and a rom first. Let me know how it goes Oh, I almost forgot, it should be a limitation from the extremely modified gingerbread os
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I'm looking at keyboards through amazon and most of them say recommended for fire but claim to be for ipad. I have a microusb to Usb 2.0 converter. Should I be ok with that?
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I'm looking at keyboards through amazon and most of them say recommended for fire but claim to be for ipad. I have a microusb to Usb 2.0 converter. Should I be ok with that?
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You can't use any old converter. You need one made specifically for USB OTG use. These have a couple of connectors shorted together that tells the device to go into OTG mode.
You also need a kernel with support for USB OTG built into it. This disqualifies all CM7 ROMs.
Support for USB OTG on Kindle Fires is spotty at best. You may or may not need to have a separate power source for this to work. There are many discussions on this in KF General.
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So I have a question I got a kindle fire mostly for school. I have not rooted yet(waiting for my prime trial to expire haha) but when I got it I had no Idea USB keyboards were not compatible. What I wanna know is if the keyboards are not compatible due to the, from my understanding, extremely modded gingerbread that the fire comes with or if once I root to an ics rom will the keyboards be compatible.
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go on root and put a custom rom first...u dont lose prime membership till a month..after 1 month(if u lose prime membership), if u want prime membership again pm me..
Now that the source code has dropped, are any developers considering adding USB OTG/Host Mode anytime soon? I'd be willing to donate if someone got it working or was actively working on it.
For anyone wondering what this is: USB OTG/Host Mode allows you to connect other devices to your E4GT (IE: Flash Drive, HDD, Keyboard, Monitor, DLSR Camera, etc.) and use/access them. It is supported by the International SGS2 and the US Carriers, but for some reason Sprint disabled this functionality in the kernel.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1802740 credit for this link goes to dberend! It's a usb otg helper link, but our phone are missing some modules if I understand correctly. They end in the file extension ".ko"
Last I heard Agats kernel was recognizing that a OTG device was connected! I'm not sure if it is working completely yet though.
Responses are appreciated!
Jeffreycat said:
Now that the source code has dropped, are any developers considering adding USB OTG/Host Mode anytime soon? I'd be willing to donate $5-$20 if someone got it working.... I know its not much, but it helps.
Responses are appreciated!
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Could u explain exactly what that is? why would we need it? For the noob like me please? Thanks man
Jeffreycat said:
Now that the source code has dropped, are any developers considering adding USB OTG/Host Mode anytime soon? I'd be willing to donate $5-$20 if someone got it working.... I know its not much, but it helps.
Responses are appreciated!
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Wrong section.
rredef said:
Could u explain exactly what that is? why would we need it? For the noob like me please? Thanks man
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USB OTG/Host Mode lets you connect a USB device to your E4GT, like a Thumb Drive, External Hard Drive, Keyboard, xBox Controller, etc. It's useful for a variety of reasons.
If this is in the wrong section, will a mod move it? Thanks in advance!
Why would you want to reprogram a perfectly good chip?
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Why would you want to reprogram a perfectly good chip?
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To add functionality?
It would be nice to get that.
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Although I wouldn't use this, I can see why people would want this. I use it on my tablet all the time so people without a tab can benefit from this.
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Although I wouldn't use this, I can see why people would want this. I use it on my tablet all the time so people without a tab can benefit from this.
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Yeah its a very useful feature. I heard a few people mention the E4GT supports it, but that it was disabled in the kernel
It doesn't appear that very many people are interested in this, should I let this thread die?
i am still interested in this
I would use this function for sure.. even though you can already make these by combining a power cord with some kind of microUSB-to-USB adapter.. basically a "powered" mUSB-to-sUSB adapter..
Before I read about them, I bought an adapter that I thought would work, but not the right one.. then I read about making them yourself is possible.. but I never tried it yet..
If they were an already built accessory, I would use it to mount a multi-port USB hub, then connect a keyboard and mouse.. I of course would need to figure out how to use both the HDMI out AND the USB hub.. it would be seriously sick to use your phone literally like a mini PC!
sj
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I would use this function for sure.. even though you can already make these by combining a power cord with some kind of microUSB-to-USB adapter.. basically a "powered" mUSB-to-sUSB adapter..
Before I read about them, I bought an adapter that I thought would work, but not the right one.. then I read about making them yourself is possible.. but I never tried it yet..
If they were an already built accessory, I would use it to mount a multi-port USB hub, then connect a keyboard and mouse.. I of course would need to figure out how to use both the HDMI out AND the USB hub.. it would be seriously sick to use your phone literally like a mini PC!
sj
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The SGS2 International and SGS2 from other carriers supports it, but for some reason Sprint disabled it in the Kernel? I'm not 100% why its not yet supported..... all I know is that its possible, and I want to be able to mount my Flash Drive, HDD, and plug my phone into an HDMI converter for my HDTV and bluetooth a mouse/keyboard combo.... mini-PC, like you said
I added a poll to see what level of interest people have about this
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i am still interested in this
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Glad to hear it
Hump
Very interested, there is an app for controlling Canon DSLRs that I want to use which requires this.
Thanks for not flaming guys. I'm moving this to general as it looks like it could become more of a discussion thread.
---Jay--- From the GNex
I am also interested. I bought a few of these usb cables on ebay- but none worked. I would like to use a usb keyboard...which right now I am considering buying another bluetooth keyboard.
I'm also extremely interested. Would be very awesome.
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Hey guys I just have a question about ICS ROMS.... Can you connect the kindle fire with ethernet? With cable adapters of course.. The kindle is currently running the latest version of glazed ICS... thanks guys
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Hey guys I just have a question about ICS ROMS.... Can you connect the kindle fire with ethernet? With cable adapters of course.. The kindle is currently running the latest version of glazed ICS... thanks guys
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Not being snarky, but why? May be obvious to veterans but you've got me curious.
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Not being snarky, but why? May be obvious to veterans but you've got me curious.
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There's really no point and I don't think anybody has done it.
I would be interested in the same thing for other android devices. A tablet with hardwired Ethernet would be awesome for setting up routers and switches at new installs and not needing a laptop!
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There's really no point and I don't think anybody has done it.
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How do u know there's no point? That's the most absurd statement ever and borderline trolling.
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How do u know there's no point? That's the most absurd statement ever and borderline trolling.
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Alright then Mr. Genius. Please tell me all the uses for it. The only valid reason I've seen is what c5satelite2 said in the post above you.
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Alright then Mr. Genius. Please tell me all the uses for it. The only valid reason I've seen is what c5satelite2 said in the post above you.
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- For use in a setting where wireless networks may be impractical... e.g. interference from other equipment results in poor wireless connections or wireless equipment causes interference for some other critical piece of equipment.
- For use in a setting where wireless networks may be banned... e.g. a security conscious workplace does not allow wireless connections.
- For use in a setting where some services may be disabled for wireless devices... e.g. wireless devices can reach external web sites, but cannot access internal file servers
- For use as a "dumb terminal" of sorts to directly connect to a headless server
What seems pointless to one does not make it useless for all.
I agree with you kinfauns... my reason for asking this question about the kindle is that there is a guy who has a kindle but no wireless at his house.. he has Ethernet but no wireless.. And he can't get wireless
He will need to piggy back off his computers Internet using USB tethering. If he's using the default Kindle OS this will not be possible however.
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He will need to piggy back off his computers Internet using USB tethering. If he's using the default Kindle OS this will not be possible however.
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He is using ICS.. thanks for the input..
OK point taken. I guess I never thought about it that way.
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I agree with you kinfauns... my reason for asking this question about the kindle is that there is a guy who has a kindle but no wireless at his house.. he has Ethernet but no wireless.. And he can't get wireless
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I may be missing something but I fail to see how it is possible that he has Ethernet but can't get wireless at his house.... The simple solution would be buy a WiFi router and plug that into the Ethernet he already has. Probably cheaper than buying a bunch of adapters to go from micro USB to Ethernet anyways and definitely much more convenient. AFAIK it isn't even possible to convert between the two.
I just picked up a trendnet WiFi n router with dual 2db antennas for $15 on tigerdirect.com and I have seen them for under $10 before.
Not trying to be rude, just trying to understand what the situation is.
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Regardless of what his purpose might be, if he is trying to get Ethernet via a USB dongle through USB OTG he would need android drivers for his particular Ethernet USB dongle, right?
Which pretty much means he would have to write them. Then you have to wonder how much power the Ethernet USB adapter would need to pull from the Fire's rather wimpy USB port...
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I got here trying to find out the same answer; ethernet to Kindle. WiFi is very toxic for some people, especially very sick ones. But the Kindle is a pleasure; buying new books and reading in bed. This is a serious inquiry on my part. I wish it existed.
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fiddlefaddle said:
I agree with you kinfauns... my reason for asking this question about the kindle is that there is a guy who has a kindle but no wireless at his house.. he has Ethernet but no wireless.. And he can't get wireless
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I am here for the same thing. Kindles are great, but there are reasons for wanting it connected to a closed ethernet-only environment. I'm one of those wanting to find the people who can help with this. I don't think Amazon is worried, but I DO worry about WiFi poisoning and I also believe it's no one else's business what I do on a device I bought for my private use. I'm hoping there are others out there with the desire and ability to solve this.
Just wondering if you had any luck?
Ally
Hello, I am also trying to find a responsible way to connect my Kindle Fire to the internet, as it is necessary just to register and to get some of my materials to read. I am electro-hypersensitive, a condition that disables, developing from over exposure to genotoxic, neurotoxic and immunotoxic microwave radiation used to transmit the info wirelessly (See bioinitiative.org for your own health). This technology takes down the healthiest people, such as military/airforce personnel and firemen... it is that toxic. People get sick and do not attribute to the technologies anti-biological impacts, and blame it on food that is innocent or neutral, or "mystery." I just want to be able to use my kindle without worsening my already depreciated functional state. I got sick because I believed this tech was not biologically active and exposed myself, now am over exposed due to the wireless tresspass into my home environment from neighbors and organizations that place towers, antennas, satellite that blanket radiates neighborhoods. Please look into the military research such as posted on Dr. Magda Havas' site for convenience. These technologies were well investigated in the 70s for weapons use by the military. This is for every one, not just those that are hypersensitive, as it harms all biology, even insects like bees suffer (please see .pdf "Irradiated").
Has anyone had success using one of these adapters (the cheap passive ones) for utilizing a PS/2 keyboard on the Kindle, of course going into a powered USB hub? I'd like to hopefully find a cheap solution because I currently do not own a USB keyboard, only an old PS/2 style. I figured I would ask first before I shelled out a much needed $1 for the adapter. I've tried searching on Google (a half fast search I'll admit) but learned I might need an active adapter for this purpose. Maybe someone can help me out with this question.
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Hey have you tried this yet?
I'm wondering for the same thing (if PS2 to USB would work)...
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Hey have you tried this yet?
I'm wondering for the same thing (if PS2 to USB would work)...
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I didn't want to chance it as I heard a couple stories of people frying their keyboard by using this adapter. I just went ahead and purchased a USB keyboard.
"Hello World"
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I didn't want to chance it as I heard a couple stories of people frying their keyboard by using this adapter. I just went ahead and purchased a USB keyboard.
"Hello World"
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Thanks for the head up!
BTW can you tell me what is the otg cable you're using?
None of those that I use with my phone work with Kindle Fire (for some silly reason).
Stevethegreat said:
Thanks for the head up!
BTW can you tell me what is the otg cable you're using?
None of those that I use with my phone work with Kindle Fire (for some silly reason).
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This is one that is just like I use......works perfect http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B005QX7KYU/ref=mp_s_a_1?qid=1358820160&sr=8-3&pi=SL75