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Connectivity demo video [UDPATE: new vid, NOVA 3+PS3 controller+HDTV+"how to" guide]

Connectivity demo video [UDPATE: new vid, NOVA 3+PS3 controller+HDTV+"how to" guide]
Basically rather large medley showing many of the connection options available for the Galaxy S3, make sure to use the nav links in the video description to get around the vid:
Note: Since the video I also got NOVA 3 on my S3 and playing it via MHL on my HDTV with a PS3 controller over bluetooth (every bit as freaking sweet as it sounds). Anyone want a guide?
[UPDATE] Demo and guide for playing NOVA 3 wirelessly via a PS3 controller, much better experience (especially on an HDTV and with a home theatre system connected!). Until you've made videos where you control the game by viewing it through the viewfinder in your camera please refrain from being too critical about how badly I suck

Ya sure a guide would b much appreciated
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NZtechfreak said:
Basically rather large medley showing many of the connection options available for the Galaxy S3, make sure to use the nav links in the video description to get around the vid:
Note: Since the video I also got NOVA 3 on my S3 and playing it via MHL on my HDTV with a PS3 controller over bluetooth (every bit as freaking sweet as it sounds). Anyone want a guide?
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F#@K YEAH
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dude this is so awesome! haha so much stuff you can connect

aneeqkhan said:
Ya sure a guide would b much appreciated
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Alright, will rustle one up after I get part two of the review dusted.

Will cheaper 3rd party MHL cables be possible?

LLStarks said:
Will cheaper 3rd party MHL cables be possible?
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I'm sure they will arrive soon-ish.

thank you! now we only need tablet mode. looking forward to your demo of ps3 via bt and mhl

wow this is going to be fun playing with galaxy s3.

Did you have to get a whole new micro usb-hdmi for it to work on tv, mine dont work.
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aussiesausage said:
Did you have to get a whole new micro usb-hdmi for it to work on tv, mine dont work.
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Yep, it's the one that is specific to the S3 (11 pin set-up, rather than 5 like the older ones - I have two of those so I'm annoyed about the change too).

NZtechfreak said:
Yep, it's the one that is specific to the S3 (11 pin set-up, rather than 5 like the older ones - I have two of those so I'm annoyed about the change too).
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Ahh, that's a bit annoying. Thanks for the information though.
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Do you know if you can use a 2.4ghz wireless air fly mouse/keyboard combo while the phone is hooked up to HDTV through mhl? If so, what would I need besides the mhl adapter? USB hub?
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Just tried an unpowered 4 port USB hub with a 32gb flash drive connected and the phone crashed and rebooted.

Excellent video mate, is the S3 your main phone these days? I'm sure I remember you doing a similar review on the Galaxy Note, that's what I have although I did get an S3 for the missus and it is tempting, but I'm holding out for the Note 2.
By the way, can you point me in the direction of a relatively cheap bluetooth keyboard and mouse that will work with my Note, but a set that doesn't come with a usb dongle since I want to use the micro usb port on the phone to connect it via MHL to my TV. If that makes sense.

AdzUK said:
Excellent video mate, is the S3 your main phone these days? I'm sure I remember you doing a similar review on the Galaxy Note, that's what I have although I did get an S3 for the missus and it is tempting, but I'm holding out for the Note 2.
By the way, can you point me in the direction of a relatively cheap bluetooth keyboard and mouse that will work with my Note, but a set that doesn't come with a usb dongle since I want to use the micro usb port on the phone to connect it via MHL to my TV. If that makes sense.
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Yep, S3 is my daily (still love my Note though). Will get the Note 2 for sure and totally respect holding out for it.
Understand what you're saying about the keyboard thing and MHL, will take a look and find some suitable ones for you.

Wow, now that is impressive. I can't believe how much you can do with the S3, simply amazing. The S3 kicks all other "smart" phones back to the dark ages . Another vote for a numptys guide please, first time smart/droid phone user here. Or I will be if my phone ever turns up

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I'm sure they will arrive soon-ish.
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Found one.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA07R0AJ5614
$10

LLStarks said:
Found one.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA07R0AJ5614
$10
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Awesome. $10 sure beats $40 for the official adapter. Just need some compatibility confirmation reviews before pulling the trigger.

Is there anyone out there with a USB DAC who can verify the S3 can actually output digital audio via USB?
This is a long time wish for audiophiles, who will all be getting an S3 if this functionality works.

Video output options

As most people have probably already heard, the "MHL" port on the SGS3 isn't compatible with existing MHL accessories or displays (so it isn't really an MHL port then is it). See this site for more on that.
Sammie has released some over-priced accessories for it, but buying those would reward and re-inforce this move (the only nasty thing the've done on an otherwise brilliant phone) and they would probably become landfill when you get your next phone. Besides, Sammie recently indicated that this port can do more, so I guess that means they will release a second round of video accessories for this phone, making the first round landfill even before you move on to your next phone.
So, if someone really needs video output for their SGS3, what are their options?
Samsung makes a wireless (Wi-Fi) streaming video dongle for the GSIII, but this too appears to be proprietary and possibly just for the GS3. It looks like there are standards coming for wireless streaming, but they aren't here yet (e.g. Miracast).
Are there other wireless video streaming devices that work with the SGS3?
Even better, though, has any other company created accessories that are compatible with the fake MHL port on the SGS3? The best would be something that worked with the SGS3 and with standards compliant MHL devices and displays (of which there are now > 100), but I don't know if that is possible.
Actually, for some users, something a bit different might work...
DLNA for example, which allows you to play content from your phone on any smart TV. It's not the same as 'video out' for your phone, but I think some poeple are just looking for a way to get media from their phone to their display. And DLNA is very widely supported standard now.
Also, these are low cost Android 4 devices in the form of an HDMI dongle - you plug them directly into your TV:
Infinitec Pocket TV
The Kogan Smart TV HDMI dongle

:meh: For $10 you can get the adapter from Samsung to use the old MHL adapters. The new adapter allows USB OTG, if I understand correctly, that is added functionality over what the old MHL offered. I don't think they changed just to make users buy new MHL adapters.
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firetruck41 said:
:meh: For $10 you can get the adapter from Samsung to use the old MHL adapters. The new adapter allows USB org, if I understand correctly, that is added functionality over what the old MHL offered. I don't think they changed just to make users buy new MHL adapters.
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First problem is that would mean you need an adapter for an adapter, which is a cumbersome solution.
More importantly, I believe that what you are saying is not true: I have reviewed the info from Samsung so far and it appears to me that the new adapter adapter does not support any of the additional capabilities (USB org) that Samsung has recently suggested that the 11pin port is capable of.
That means that there will be new accessories soon to enable that capability, so you will have 3 accessories for that one port, just to do one thing.

No cheap and trustworthy ebay alternatives yet??
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Get a HDMI android tv dongle.
Then install mirrorOp sender/receiver for screen mirroring.
Works fine enough but frame rate may not be fast enough for gaming mirroring.
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fylim said:
Get a HDMI android tv dongle.
Then install mirrorOp sender/receiver for screen mirroring.
Works fine enough but frame rate may not be fast enough for gaming mirroring.
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It should be noted that this solution requires that your Android be rooted. Here's the product page for the Android version of mirrorOp.
http://www.mirrorop.com/product_Android_Sender.html

firetruck41 said:
:meh: For $10 you can get the adapter from Samsung to use the old MHL adapters. The new adapter allows USB OTG, if I understand correctly, that is added functionality over what the old MHL offered. I don't think they changed just to make users buy new MHL adapters.
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Has it been confirmed that OTG works together with the new MHL adapter? AndroidNZ couldn't get it to work in one of his video reviews

I couldn't get it to work.
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It's possible that .gs3 can play full hd movies over Mhl port or resolution will by like phone screen ?
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Check this out guys. This is what we need ! Need some clever dev to work with them to get it supported on custom roms !
http://esrlabs.com/android-transporter-on-the-raspberry-pi/

fylim said:
Check this out guys. This is what we need ! Need some clever dev to work with them to get it supported on custom roms !
http://esrlabs.com/android-transporter-on-the-raspberry-pi/
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Apparently that is an implementation of the Wi-Fi alliances Miracast standard, which sounds great, but for now (i.e. until Android ships with it) it requires root access.

I have bought a few products and have been successful at hooking my note 2 up to a tv with excellent results. I want to also hook up usb hub. I have had SO much bad luck even trying to find out a solution. It seems something is wrong here... oh I see now since I read all of galaxymhl.com. If there was any chance of me paying for the Samsung dock its NOT going to happen now. Dont ever mess with a standard!
I am ready to get out my solder gun and wire it myself...
I own this..
http://www.amazon.com/Cable-Matters...605012&sr=8-1&keywords=caBLE+MATTERS+HDMI+MHL
The micro usb is only for power only - NO DATA!!!
Also just bought this
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B008FRJORK/ref=oh_details_o01_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
The USB does not work with the phone! So sending it back today.
I need HDMI as well as DATA simultaneously. If I missed something I am sorry. It just seems people and products are not clear about this.
If there is a site on rewiring these cables it would be awesome. Does anyone have a solution???

USB OTG/Host Mode

Now that the source code has dropped, are any developers considering adding USB OTG/Host Mode anytime soon? I'd be willing to donate if someone got it working or was actively working on it.
For anyone wondering what this is: USB OTG/Host Mode allows you to connect other devices to your E4GT (IE: Flash Drive, HDD, Keyboard, Monitor, DLSR Camera, etc.) and use/access them. It is supported by the International SGS2 and the US Carriers, but for some reason Sprint disabled this functionality in the kernel.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1802740 credit for this link goes to dberend! It's a usb otg helper link, but our phone are missing some modules if I understand correctly. They end in the file extension ".ko"
Last I heard Agats kernel was recognizing that a OTG device was connected! I'm not sure if it is working completely yet though.
Responses are appreciated!

Jeffreycat said:
Now that the source code has dropped, are any developers considering adding USB OTG/Host Mode anytime soon? I'd be willing to donate $5-$20 if someone got it working.... I know its not much, but it helps.
Responses are appreciated!
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Could u explain exactly what that is? why would we need it? For the noob like me please? Thanks man

Jeffreycat said:
Now that the source code has dropped, are any developers considering adding USB OTG/Host Mode anytime soon? I'd be willing to donate $5-$20 if someone got it working.... I know its not much, but it helps.
Responses are appreciated!
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Wrong section.

rredef said:
Could u explain exactly what that is? why would we need it? For the noob like me please? Thanks man
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USB OTG/Host Mode lets you connect a USB device to your E4GT, like a Thumb Drive, External Hard Drive, Keyboard, xBox Controller, etc. It's useful for a variety of reasons.

If this is in the wrong section, will a mod move it? Thanks in advance!

Why would you want to reprogram a perfectly good chip?

kthejoker20 said:
Why would you want to reprogram a perfectly good chip?
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To add functionality?

It would be nice to get that.
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Although I wouldn't use this, I can see why people would want this. I use it on my tablet all the time so people without a tab can benefit from this.

Iandv said:
Although I wouldn't use this, I can see why people would want this. I use it on my tablet all the time so people without a tab can benefit from this.
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Yeah its a very useful feature. I heard a few people mention the E4GT supports it, but that it was disabled in the kernel

It doesn't appear that very many people are interested in this, should I let this thread die?

i am still interested in this

I would use this function for sure.. even though you can already make these by combining a power cord with some kind of microUSB-to-USB adapter.. basically a "powered" mUSB-to-sUSB adapter..
Before I read about them, I bought an adapter that I thought would work, but not the right one.. then I read about making them yourself is possible.. but I never tried it yet..
If they were an already built accessory, I would use it to mount a multi-port USB hub, then connect a keyboard and mouse.. I of course would need to figure out how to use both the HDMI out AND the USB hub.. it would be seriously sick to use your phone literally like a mini PC!
sj
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sjsharksfan420 said:
I would use this function for sure.. even though you can already make these by combining a power cord with some kind of microUSB-to-USB adapter.. basically a "powered" mUSB-to-sUSB adapter..
Before I read about them, I bought an adapter that I thought would work, but not the right one.. then I read about making them yourself is possible.. but I never tried it yet..
If they were an already built accessory, I would use it to mount a multi-port USB hub, then connect a keyboard and mouse.. I of course would need to figure out how to use both the HDMI out AND the USB hub.. it would be seriously sick to use your phone literally like a mini PC!
sj
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The SGS2 International and SGS2 from other carriers supports it, but for some reason Sprint disabled it in the Kernel? I'm not 100% why its not yet supported..... all I know is that its possible, and I want to be able to mount my Flash Drive, HDD, and plug my phone into an HDMI converter for my HDTV and bluetooth a mouse/keyboard combo.... mini-PC, like you said

I added a poll to see what level of interest people have about this

quasarsky said:
i am still interested in this
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Glad to hear it
Hump

Very interested, there is an app for controlling Canon DSLRs that I want to use which requires this.

Thanks for not flaming guys. I'm moving this to general as it looks like it could become more of a discussion thread.
---Jay--- From the GNex

I am also interested. I bought a few of these usb cables on ebay- but none worked. I would like to use a usb keyboard...which right now I am considering buying another bluetooth keyboard.

I'm also extremely interested. Would be very awesome.
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USB Adapter Discussion & Comments

Since the new model tablet does not have the 30-pin charging port, does anyone know if they are developing a mini USB charging adapter that can accommodate a full size USB pen drive, stick, etc...
With the understanding this tablet is new and not very many people have it yet, I thought I would put that question out there, thoughts?
...Sent from my Tablet...Please excuse any typo's...

Rickgsx said:
Since the new model tablet does not have the 30-pin charging port, does anyone know if they are developing a mini USB charging adapter that can accommodate a full size USB pen drive, stick, etc...
With the understanding this tablet is new and not very many people have it yet, I thought I would put that question out there, thoughts?
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Yeah man is called an otg cable and is been around for a while now
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Thank you for the reply back, I'm sorry I was not aware of that
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ckavvouras said:
Yeah man is called an otg cable and is been around for a while now
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Now all you need is for the tablet to have OTG support. For some reason this is always a big question mark.
I have a USB OTG cable and have used it often with my Galaxy Nexus, but depending on the ROM I had to install an app (that needs root - by chainfire I believe) for it to work. So I wouldn't be too surprised if USB OTG didn't work out of the box.

The_Maverick said:
Now all you need is for the tablet to have OTG support. For some reason this is always a big question mark.
I have a USB OTG cable and have used it often with my Galaxy Nexus, but depending on the ROM I had to install an app (that needs root - by chainfire I believe) for it to work. So I wouldn't be too surprised if USB OTG didn't work out of the box.
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Is that right? I was under the assumption that it was plug n play like many other things?
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Rickgsx said:
Is that right? I was under the assumption that it was plug n play like many other things?
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Maybe this works better on non-AOSP devices. As far as I know, Samsung also has their own Bluetooth drivers too, for example. Maybe this is a similar situation, I don't really know. I've never owned a non-Nexus device, I'm sure someone else with more experience with Samsung devices can clarify this for us.

I tested USB storage and it's working .. but maybe selective
Tried 5 sticks .. 4 worked except a Sony thumb drive gave USB is blank and it's led only blinked for a second.
Also noticed that processor got hot quickly.. as it opened the file explorer or maybe it's the media server and indexing

I've used the otg cable with a mouse successfully
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I used a USB on th go cable and was able to transfer documents to an old school kindle from the note 10.1 (2014) edition. Worked like a charm.
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External HDD
Hi.
Has anyone tried external hard drives, do you recognize?
Thank you!

i've tried 4 different portable hd's from 320 to 1.5TB. it recongizes the device and spins them up, but they're all ntfs. i can't even get paragon to mount them. i also tried my hacked powered usb otg (made it for rooting the chromecast) and still the same results. if we can get a kernel with ntfs support it should work fine.

rayman2006 said:
Hi.
Has anyone tried external hard drives, do you recognize?
Thank you!
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Tried this one from the German Amazon. Works like a charm. HDDs are working as well. The most handy while travelling, though: HDMI
As a new user I can't post links. Try searchin amazon.de for Callstel 5in1 MHL-Adapter HDMI, USB, SD für Samsung Galaxy S2/S3 u.a.

indevd said:
Tried this one from the German Amazon. Works like a charm. HDDs are working as well. The most handy while travelling, though: HDMI
As a new user I can't post links. Try searchin amazon.de for Callstel 5in1 MHL-Adapter HDMI, USB, SD für Samsung Galaxy S2/S3 u.a.
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Does the usb work at the same time as the hdmi?
Need ext power?

DeBoX said:
1. Does the usb work at the same time as the hdmi?
2. Need ext power?
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1. No
2. Yes, from the standard device power supply

I have a motorola otg cable that does NOT work on my note. However I have this OTG cable (minus the 11 pin adapter--I bought it in 2012) which DOES work.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B008CQKM2U/ref=oh_details_o01_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
The tables recognizes my NTFS drive but only as blank.

Just received this
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00CFELD0K/ref=cm_sw_r_an_am_at_ws_us?ie=UTF8
Works perfectly. Recognized my logitech wireless keyboard/mouse , 32 gb thumbdrive, hp passport..... so far every thing I've plugged into it. Can't beat the 6.99 price tag either!
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While we're on the subject, anyone know of any usb hubs that work out of the box with our new shiny toy?
pref hubs from dx.com

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Hello there,
I have another question regarding these OTG cable/hub solutions.. are there any ways to connect an USB device and simultaneously charge your tablet?
like for example an usb game-controller and be able to play games while charging (or watching movies from a (compatible) hard disc while charging)
Thanks for any answers!

SGS9/+ OTG and HDMI Out Simultaneously?

Hello,
We're in the market for phone upgrades. I currently have a Pixel XL and my spouse still has his Nexus 5x. We're giving some thought to the SGS9+, if we can find a BOGO type deal as TMO did several times last year. While they aren't that exciting, I do like the addition of Samsung Pay that works with any strip reader and some of the other features (though we aren't completely sold on it yet).
We're traveling and typically bring a streaming stick which works in most places. But the internet in our current place is just too show so it doesn't work at all. We happened to have an external hard drive with some media files on it but we're currently having to use a Windows laptop to run the files since the stuck doesn't have a USB in.
I'm wondering if it's possible to use the SGS9+ as an OTG to read the external hard drive while using the HDMI out at the same time? Can I charge too? Would some sort of a USB C dock work for this? Or something else? Thanks so much in advance!

varaonaid said:
Hello,
We're in the market for phone upgrades. I currently have a Pixel XL and my spouse still has his Nexus 5x. We're giving some thought to the SGS9+, if we can find a BOGO type deal as TMO did several times last year. While they aren't that exciting, I do like the addition of Samsung Pay that works with any strip reader and some of the other features (though we aren't completely sold on it yet).
We're traveling and typically bring a streaming stick which works in most places. But the internet in our current place is just too show so it doesn't work at all. We happened to have an external hard drive with some media files on it but we're currently having to use a Windows laptop to run the files since the stuck doesn't have a USB in.
I'm wondering if it's possible to use the SGS9+ as an OTG to read the external hard drive while using the HDMI out at the same time? Can I charge too? Would some sort of a USB C dock work for this? Or something else? Thanks so much in advance!
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Maybe to late of a reply, but i think your refering to the samsung dex pad. It has 2 usb ports, 1 hdmi out, ethernet. Phone connects to dock via usb c. Kind of expensive tho $99. You can also buy a generic version that does the same thing on amazon for $30. It doesnt look as pretty, but functionality is the same.