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I spent my entire day to figure out the best way to connect my xperia ZL to a HDTV. What I want to do on my tv is:
a)Play all my music, tons of Mp3 in my phone.
b) Plays youtube video, sometimes I have friends over and its fun to watch music video or even dance with them (lounchign playlists)
c)Browse the web on the tv.
At first I thought to buy a smart tv, but then after reading all the reviews it is not really worth it. Cause people say that browsing the web with smart tv is a pain, and most of them do not have an hard drive where I can store my music to be played, and the utube app does not have the option to add adblock in order to play a youtube compilation seamlessly when I have a gathering/party. Therefore I decided to buy a standard tv and mirrow/share my phone screen to the TV. The available options are:
1)Connect by cable. Here I need to buy an MHL to HDMI Adapter + an HDMI cable. This seems like a good solution: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RHa56Dm2j_8 . Wireless mouse and keyboard are an extra, I might just buy a 15 feet long HDMI cable that goes from the TV to my couch and use the phone. Do you have any experience on this? what MHL to HDMI Adapter works for the ZL (the one one the youtube video works for Z not sure for ZL)
2) Connect via the Throw sony feature. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KVRV1u6qLWg I need either bluetooth or wifi on the TV, and it only works for 3 applications (walkman, album and video). You cannot throw youtube video. It could be an extra fast option to throw my music to the TV in case I am walking around the house but it would not be the solution for all the three a), b) and c) points I posted above. So this is excluded.
3)Using Chromecast. Seems like a good option. I dont know how fast and responsive it would be but it allows you to share the internet chrome browser and play utube video. But does not allow playing music I guess. And I guess no option to launch ad-free utube playlists since it would use the chromecast app to play video rite?
4)Using a android mini PC.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vvozNRIms78. I did not dig into it too much. It has an harddrive where i can copy my music...but im not sure its convenient.
5)using the mirroring screen capability under settings-> display-> screen mirroring.It seems like I need a Miracast wifi gadget to add to my TV, like this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DgCDlrzqgdM . Cons: in the comments of the video it is said that you cannot connect to the wifi while you are mirroring, only 3G/4G I guess. What do you guys think?
6) Using NFC. Here is a ufficial video, but guys I have no idea what TV i should buy for doing this.
For what I have understood the easiest way is the old way via cable (point (1)). The only thing I am not sure of is: how can I charge my phone if the micro USB outlet is used buy the MHL to HDMI Adapter?? In 1 hour of browsing my phone will die!! could u enlighten me please?
As for wireless options, I like Miracast, but not sure if the fact that I am stuck on browsing with my 3G/4G network might be a problem. What do you guys suggest?
Thanks
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I'm using Chromecast, it's amazing for YouTube, Netflix, Google Play Movies and Music (for while)!
Edited: in chromecast forum you can see how to stream local video from your desktop
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I have 32inch sony lcd old one without wifi nd all. No way to connect it says device unsupported
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Does anyone know if it is possible to get a digital audio output from this tablet? Stereo is fine - don't need surround sound or anything fancy, although that would be nice too!
drb01 said:
Does anyone know if it is possible to get a digital audio output from this tablet? Stereo is fine - don't need surround sound or anything fancy, although that would be nice too!
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Yes, I was surprised that when I plugged my Fiio E17 in it just worked with the standard LG ROM. Recent custom ROMs also now support USB audio.
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Yes, I was surprised that when I plugged my Fiio E17 in it just worked with the standard LG ROM. Recent custom ROMs also now support USB audio.
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Great news, but how in practice do I do it? I am hoping to plug the lg into my hifi audio amp via the coax digital input...
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Great news, but how in practice do I do it? I am hoping to plug the lg into my hifi audio amp via the coax digital input...
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You need a USB "on the go" (otg) cable, £1-2 from famous "auction" site.
Then (something I haven't used) you'd need a USB to coax converter - which seem to exist. I just tried a cheap (£11) USB sound card that I have and it happily converted the USB output of gpad into optical or analogue (not coax).
An alternative could be to look at a Bluetooth solution.
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You need a USB "on the go" (otg) cable, £1-2 from famous "auction" site.
Then (something I haven't used) you'd need a USB to coax converter - which seem to exist. I just tried a cheap (£11) USB sound card that I have and it happily converted the USB output of gpad into optical or analogue (not coax).
An alternative could be to look at a Bluetooth solution.
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As you say it seems like an OTG connector plugged into a sound card would do the trick. But is there a more direct method? E.g. my old laptop has a straight digital output. I am trying to avoid latency apart from anything, as one application would be to use it at the same time as Miracast (my surround sound pre-amp is very good but doesn't have HDMI so my blu-ray player's HDMI goes to a projector, and the sound is handled separately via coax - works surprisingly well). Would like to replicate with the LG.
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As you say it seems like an OTG connector plugged into a sound card would do the trick. But is there a more direct method?
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I've not come across a tablet with direct digital audio out via optical or coax. This is now a different question from how I originally understood it (I assumed just wanting to listen to audio).
Can't you get the audio via Miracast (I'm not getting it ATM but I thought it did when I've tried previously)? I suppose it really depends on what you are trying to play and what to, there are all sorts of possibilities.
I use the Netflix and YouTube apps on tablet to control play on recent Samsung tv / Chromecast dongle (not actually streaming). You can play audio/video via dlna to appropriate players, you can stream to Apple TV with appropriate app. etc..
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I've not come across a tablet with direct digital audio out via optical or coax. This is now a different question from how I originally understood it (I assumed just wanting to listen to audio).
Can't you get the audio via Miracast (I'm not getting it ATM but I thought it did when I've tried previously)? I suppose it really depends on what you are trying to play and what to, there are all sorts of possibilities.
I use the Netflix and YouTube apps on tablet to control play on recent Samsung tv / Chromecast dongle (not actually streaming). You can play audio/video via dlna to appropriate players, you can stream to Apple TV with appropriate app. etc..
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I guess I have two needs, one for straight audio which now seems fairly straight forward (and thanks for your help), and then it would be nice to get video as well. I thought the LG was Miracast, not Chromecast or can it do both? Either way I would need to get a dongle for HDMI into my projector, and separate sound to the audio processor.
But how would it do DLNA? My Sony blu ray player BDP-S570 does DLNA and that would be a really neat way to do the video as it would handle sound at the same time...
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I thought the LG was Miracast, not Chromecast or can it do both? Either way I would need to get a dongle for HDMI into my projector, and separate sound to the audio processor.
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Miracast is the screen mirroring system, Chromecast is Google's dongle for playing some streaming video sources on TV. Matching apps on tablet/phone can control the playback on Chromecast, some recent TVs use the same control protocol (DIAL) so their respective streaming apps can be controlled in the same way
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But how would it do DLNA? My Sony blu ray player BDP-S570 does DLNA and that would be a really neat way to do the video as it would handle sound at the same time...
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I use the BubbleUPnP app, it discovers media servers and playback devices on you home network and allows you to control play. It also acts as a dlna server itself, so video stored on phone/tablet can be played on dlna player (TV/blu ray/streaming box/other mobile device).
Note that dlna doesn't guarantee playback, the rendering device needs to understand the format of media from the server, the more recent the equipment the greater the chance of success (eg my recent TV plays streamed video better than the two year old bluray player, my 4 year old TV won't even play video via dlna but will music and jpegs).
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Miracast is the screen mirroring system, Chromecast is Google's dongle for playing some streaming video sources on TV. Matching apps on tablet/phone can control the playback on Chromecast, some recent TVs use the same control protocol (DIAL) so their respective streaming apps can be controlled in the same way
So I can buy either a Chromecast HDMI dongle or a Miracast HDMI dongle and both should be compatible with my LG G Pad? I see in Settings on the LG there is a Miracast toggle, but no Chromecast setting. Sorry - I guess I am a bit ignorant about all this! Ill try the DLNA when I get a chance...
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So I can buy either a Chromecast HDMI dongle or a Miracast HDMI dongle and both should be compatible with my LG G Pad? I see in Settings on the LG there is a Miracast toggle, but no Chromecast setting. Sorry - I guess I am a bit ignorant about all this! Ill try the DLNA when I get a chance...
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It really depends exactly what you want to do.
Miracast mirrors the tablet display, so anything you see on the tablet will appear on TV including games (but lag is too much to really be usable for this).
Google's Chromecast dongle doesn't allow you to show any random video, there needs to be a matching Chromecast app. (I've only used Netflix and Youtube). You start the matching app on the tablet, tap an icon and choose where (on which device) to view the video, you can then pause/play rewind etc. using the tablet.
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It really depends exactly what you want to do.
Miracast mirrors the tablet display, so anything you see on the tablet will appear on TV including games (but lag is too much to really be usable for this).
Google's Chromecast dongle doesn't allow you to show any random video, there needs to be a matching Chromecast app. (I've only used Netflix and Youtube). You start the matching app on the tablet, tap an icon and choose where (on which device) to view the video, you can then pause/play rewind etc. using the tablet.
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Thanks again. I get the difference between the two, but I just want to make sure that my LG G Pad is compatible with both Miracast and Chromecast dongles. I have to say that these dongles don't get very good reviews on Amazon but I guess Ill have to get one or the other ...
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I have to say that these dongles don't get very good reviews on Amazon but I guess Ill have to get one or the other ...
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If you don't mind the cable you could use a Slimport adapter to get HDMI out of the USB socket - have never tried it so don't know the pros/cons.
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If you don't mind the cable you could use a Slimport adapter to get HDMI out of the USB socket - have never tried it so don't know the pros/cons.
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That could well be the way forward - at least it should work! I am surprised there are not people commenting on miracast etc.
I'd like to use a tablet to display Power Point on a projector. I was thinking of using a Note 10.1 (2014) with a Chromecast installed in the HDMI port of the projector. Has anyone tried this? Did it work well?
Also, when displaying the presentation, can you write on the slides, such as circling or underlining certain words?
Thanks!
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I'd like to use a tablet to display Power Point on a projector. I was thinking of using a Note 10.1 (2014) with a Chromecast installed in the HDMI port of the projector. Has anyone tried this? Did it work well?
Also, when displaying the presentation, can you write on the slides, such as circling or underlining certain words?
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I haven't used the Chromecast for this (although with the latest app update, Android screen mirroring should be supported from the Note 2014E), although I have used Samsung's Allshare Cast Hub and Netgear's Push2TV to accomplish this. It works fairly well, provided the devices aren't set up on a network with high traffic.
Slideshow annotation will depend on the app you use to display it, but Hancom and Polaris should both support it.
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I'd like to use a tablet to display Power Point on a projector. I was thinking of using a Note 10.1 (2014) with a Chromecast installed in the HDMI port of the projector. Has anyone tried this? Did it work well?
Also, when displaying the presentation, can you write on the slides, such as circling or underlining certain words?
Thanks!
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I teach everyday using projectors. When the battery is low, I use the hdmi output with a cable, so that the device can charge during the lecture. When it's high, I use Netgear's PTV3000 so that I can walk around the students, and stream through wifi.
I have a chromecast at home too, but it works only with selected apps (Netflix and Youtube), and does not work that well: it disappears frequently from the network.
Some people managed to mirror their screens with chromecast, but it was through hacks. Only very recently I heard of it as an official feature, which does not show in my chromecast yet.
In short, if you are out to buy your gear, I'd suggest you to take the PTV3000, because I can confirm to you that it will work well, no matter how you will use it. Chromecast is cheaper, but might crash in the middle of your lecture. It's ok for home use, but for professional use, I'm not that confident.
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I teach everyday using projectors. When the battery is low, I use the hdmi output with a cable, so that the device can charge during the lecture. When it's high, I use Netgear's PTV3000 so that I can walk around the students, and stream through wifi.
I have a chromecast at home too, but it works only with selected apps (Netflix and Youtube), and does not work that well: it disappears frequently from the network.
Some people managed to mirror their screens with chromecast, but it was through hacks. Only very recently I heard of it as an official feature, which does not show in my chromecast yet.
In short, if you are out to buy your gear, I'd suggest you to take the PTV3000, because I can confirm to you that it will work well, no matter how you will use it. Chromecast is cheaper, but might crash in the middle of your lecture. It's ok for home use, but for professional use, I'm not that confident.
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Do the projectors you connect to have HDMI in, or are you using some king of digital to analogue converter? I also use my 2012 GNote to lecture, but the Allshare cast dongle stopped working with my VGA input only legacy data projectors. I assume this is because Samsung introduced HDCP to the dongle with a firmware update. If the PTV3000 works with ordinary D/A converters then I will get one of these. As it stands I had to purchase a "special" D/A converter that removes the HDCP handshake.
I use the HDMI connection. Have not tried it using a digital converter.
I use Tronsmart T1000 miracast device (it was around 30 EUR delivered) and it works just fine mirroring screen of my Note.
I also have HDMI2VGA adaptor box for the times when I can't connect to HDMI, it works fine and doesn't need any additional power.
I'm thinking about buying a miracast dongle like EZcast or similar. I were wondering if anyone has tried enabling Miracast on the device and if they have, does it support Miracast multitasking. Meaning you can select what you want to stream, like a home movie for instance, then while it's playing on the TV you can check emails, send message or other stuff on the G4. Feedback about this much appreciated so I can decide whether to get a Miracast dongle or not.
I haven't tried any multitasking, but I have used the screen mirroring with a Roku 3 with no issues.
Roku isn't something I'll be considering.
I'm on the Three UK network and they have just put a cap on how much you can tether. It used to be unlimited data but now I still get unlimited data, but can only tether 4gb. I've been getting through 40gb and more per month in the past as I like to watch YouTube on my 42 inch TV at the bottom of the bed. It just used to be a case of tethering from my device. Since miracast runs off WI-FI Direct then it shouldn't be using my tethering data. I'll be just getting a cheap dongle with only miracast in mind.
Roku runs off wifi too. They don't use internet to stream internally. I stream videos to my Roku every day using Allcast app. So much that my "home" tablet has been my dedicated video streamer.
I haven't mirrored my device much since I think it is useless when the tablet or device is right in front of you but it does work. I guess you could use a Bluetooth keyboard/mouse to control it remotely.
Good thing about the Roku is the Roku remote which allows me to control my streaming. I can start a stream then use the Roku remote to play, pause, rewind, fast forward, etc. Since we use the Roku for primary content at my house, everyone is already familiar with the remote. Just initiate the stream on the tablet side and then put it away.
I can tell you right now the miracast option only mirrors and requires the screen to be on. Turn the screen off and the miracast stops. Also you cannot stream videos while doing anything else.
With the Roku and Allcast, you can start the stream and continue doing other things, like email and texts. Phone calls will interrupt the streaming though which is why I use a dedicated tablet for this use.
Ahhh ok then. Thanks for the info.
I have used Miracast to send my phone to the screen in my vehicle (Concept flip down TV). It works off wifi direct and worked fine.
Just click SEttings->Share&Connect and under screen share there is a miracast section. Click that and your device will show up. Works with everything I tried it with.
Works easily with Chromecast. Very quick connection
Yes, it works if the app supports it. The built-in videos app (not accessible via a shortcut but comes up when you stream from the browser) does support it. I don't know about other apps (youtube, netflix). When you start the process the screen is mirrored but as soon as the video starts playing the phone screen becomes a controls screen only. When you hit home and exit out of it the phone gives you instructions. You can also edit the notification panel to add a Miracast button for quick access.
I tried looking up this device on xda, but nothing yet, so i thought i'd post here first.
since it uses an audio jack, do you guys think you could plug this into your cars aux port, and stream using your phone? or is it dependent on wifi only?
It is wifi, not bluetooth. Might work in guest mode. I'm very interested in the device, but want to use if for DLNA streaming from my home server if at all possible.
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It also has dual output connector: analog 3.5 jack and optical spdif... equal to Apple Airport Express.
Anybody see if it has native FLAC support? I haven't found an answer to that yet. This may be a device I just have to buy and try...
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Anybody see if it has native FLAC support? I haven't found an answer to that yet. This may be a device I just have to buy and try...
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Yeah I'm still waiting for an answer as to if it supports 320kbps for high quality streaming from spotify. That would be the main advantage of it over a bluetooth receiver.
I'd love to know if it does support that if anyone can find out!
FLAC is listed as supported media for google cast, so it SHOULD work.
https://developers.google.com/cast/docs/media
does anybody have any idea if Chromecast Audio would work as a car audio solution? I tried using a 1st Gen Chromecast but ran into the issue of the device's requiring an actual internet connection (not simply a wifi connection). My guess is that Chromecast Audio will similarly require an internet connection, but am wondering if there is a workaround?
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does anybody have any idea if Chromecast Audio would work as a car audio solution? I tried using a 1st Gen Chromecast but ran into the issue of the device's requiring an actual internet connection (not simply a wifi connection). My guess is that Chromecast Audio will similarly require an internet connection, but am wondering if there is a workaround?
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A lot of talk, no conclusion about this yet. Some suggest tethering the phone should work. I've got one on order, should know next week.
cool, let us know! =]
I am working on getting mine to work in my car today. I bought it yesterday and didn't have much time to mess with it. I had it working as I tethered through my phone and using my gfs phone to play music but I'm going to see if I can get it to work without tether.
Got it working but not perfect
So the main thing is IT WORKS!!
Its just buggy getting it started but after that it plays fine for the whole ride. Here is what I did (notice: must have working tether on your phone to get it to work)
I am running a nexus 6 with Chroma ROM. Also I'm using Spotify to play my music.
Steps I did to try to get it working.
1. I first went through the setup process on my gf galaxy s5 and updated the chromecast through my tether.
2. I hooked everything up in my car.
3. Turned on my phones WiFi and press the button on the Chromecast first and then connect to the WiFi that my Chromecast gives out.
4. Then open the Chromecast app and make sure it sees it. (Mine still says it needs to be setup even though it already is. Don't worry about that)
5. Open Spotify and in the devices area it should say nearby cast or something like that. Try to connect and it will ask for a pin. Ignore that and hit cancel.
6. Then turn on your hotspot on your phone. It will then show your Chromecast name correctly in Spotify and you can connect and play music. (Must leave your tether on)
All in all I got it working without having a separate wireless connection to connect both of them and have audio playing through my car audio. I tried it twice now and it has worked.
Also the Chromecast app will not show its connected even though you're playing music through it. I have a screenshot of it at the bottom.
Nice - I have a ground-loop issue in my car and can't charge my phone the same time it is plugged into the stereo - this might solve that. I'm using mine to add streaming to a bedroom system, but if I like it, I may replace the streamer box on the home stereo, which cuts out on FLAC from time to time.
UPDATE: you do not have to go through all those steps everytime. I've tested further and found that it is much easier.
After you already have it setup in your car, to connect do these steps:
1. Turn on your phones WiFi and connect to your Chromecast audio.
2.After a few seconds turn your hotspot on(do not turn off the WiFi at any time).
3. After a few seconds Spotify will see your device and work perfectly.
OK,
I have had my Chromecast Audio working for the last day. I am using it with BubbleUpNP to stream audio of of my DLNA server on my home network. Working well, more reliable than the Soundmate that I was using. Going to order a micro-toslink SPDIF cable to use my on DAC. It isn't a DLNA renderer, so it won't work with software that is expecting UPNP/DLNA, but BubbleUpNP is working well.
I got one of these today, and the Hardware is really nice. It has a decent DAC, good WiFi, Dual (Analogue, Optical) output, so all good on that front. It also plays 24bit 192K FLAC from Qobuz without trouble. You should however make sure to turn the "High Dynamic Range" setting on in the CC app!
However, I don't like the way it's handled. I'm used to running Logitech Media Server with am Odroid U3 as Server and a couple of Raspberry Pi units with Hifiberry DAC/Digi/Amp addon boards, and with that setup starting music in the mornings is easy. I turn on the power, and that's it, after the Pi has booted, the music starts playing, choosing the last Playlist or Webradio Station I used when I turned it off. No need to even touch my phone.
With Chromecast I have to jump through a lot of hoops to actually get it playing any music, and that's it's biggest failure IMHO. It won't automatically reconnect, it won't resume playing where it left off, it's basically just a better kind of BT dongle (using Wifi instead of BT).
This is a huge waste of potential! Sadly, I cannot use this neat piece of Hardware with Logitech Media Server, because it doesn't work as a DLNA Renderer, and LMS can't cast to Chromecast (since that only works from Android/iOS/Chrome OS).
So, while this COULD be great, it's currently badly underachieving. Maybe someone will work out a way to fix this by rooting CC and installing Squeezelite on it, of by some other means. There is always hope!
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I got one of these today, and the Hardware is really nice. It has a decent DAC, good WiFi, Dual (Analogue, Optical) output, so all good on that front. It also plays 24bit 192K FLAC from Qobuz without trouble. You should however make sure to turn the "High Dynamic Range" setting on in the CC app!
However, I don't like the way it's handled. I'm used to running Logitech Media Server with am Odroid U3 as Server and a couple of Raspberry Pi units with Hifiberry DAC/Digi/Amp addon boards, and with that setup starting music in the mornings is easy. I turn on the power, and that's it, after the Pi has booted, the music starts playing, choosing the last Playlist or Webradio Station I used when I turned it off. No need to even touch my phone.
With Chromecast I have to jump through a lot of hoops to actually get it playing any music, and that's it's biggest failure IMHO. It won't automatically reconnect, it won't resume playing where it left off, it's basically just a better kind of BT dongle (using Wifi instead of BT).
This is a huge waste of potential! Sadly, I cannot use this neat piece of Hardware with Logitech Media Server, because it doesn't work as a DLNA Renderer, and LMS can't cast to Chromecast (since that only works from Android/iOS/Chrome OS).
So, while this COULD be great, it's currently badly underachieving. Maybe someone will work out a way to fix this by rooting CC and installing Squeezelite on it, of by some other means. There is always hope!
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You can use it with your DLNA server, but you need to manage the Chromecast with BubbleUpNP on your phone. Not perfect, but more stable than the renderer that I was using.
I got mine yesterday and I must say that I am very happy with it. One thing though, when I play music via YouTube (via casting screen/audio in the CC app) the sound volume is really low. It is much higher when I play music via Spotify. Is there a way to boost the output from the phone? I tried the hardware buttons of course
Workaround for the Volume being too low: Use a cast-native app like Spotify to crank up the Volume.
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it's basically just a better kind of BT dongle (using Wifi instead of BT).
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Yes, I see your point, but IMHO it's more than just a WiFi equivalent of a BT adaptor because, whilst you CAN stream from your device/locally with the right app, most "standard/consumer" use cases have the Chromecast streaming content direct from the Internet which is controlled by the app in your device. Your device doesn't do the streaming, saving power, you don't have to stay in range, etc. If I start steaming using Spotify as the app, for example, the Chromecast will continue playing my playlist even if I close Spotify on my device.
True. However, it still lacks a lot of features other multiroom systems offer. This little dingle has loads of potential, but Google will have to work hard to make it shine...