I'd like to use a tablet to display Power Point on a projector. I was thinking of using a Note 10.1 (2014) with a Chromecast installed in the HDMI port of the projector. Has anyone tried this? Did it work well?
Also, when displaying the presentation, can you write on the slides, such as circling or underlining certain words?
Thanks!
JDCGW said:
I'd like to use a tablet to display Power Point on a projector. I was thinking of using a Note 10.1 (2014) with a Chromecast installed in the HDMI port of the projector. Has anyone tried this? Did it work well?
Also, when displaying the presentation, can you write on the slides, such as circling or underlining certain words?
Thanks!
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I haven't used the Chromecast for this (although with the latest app update, Android screen mirroring should be supported from the Note 2014E), although I have used Samsung's Allshare Cast Hub and Netgear's Push2TV to accomplish this. It works fairly well, provided the devices aren't set up on a network with high traffic.
Slideshow annotation will depend on the app you use to display it, but Hancom and Polaris should both support it.
JDCGW said:
I'd like to use a tablet to display Power Point on a projector. I was thinking of using a Note 10.1 (2014) with a Chromecast installed in the HDMI port of the projector. Has anyone tried this? Did it work well?
Also, when displaying the presentation, can you write on the slides, such as circling or underlining certain words?
Thanks!
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I teach everyday using projectors. When the battery is low, I use the hdmi output with a cable, so that the device can charge during the lecture. When it's high, I use Netgear's PTV3000 so that I can walk around the students, and stream through wifi.
I have a chromecast at home too, but it works only with selected apps (Netflix and Youtube), and does not work that well: it disappears frequently from the network.
Some people managed to mirror their screens with chromecast, but it was through hacks. Only very recently I heard of it as an official feature, which does not show in my chromecast yet.
In short, if you are out to buy your gear, I'd suggest you to take the PTV3000, because I can confirm to you that it will work well, no matter how you will use it. Chromecast is cheaper, but might crash in the middle of your lecture. It's ok for home use, but for professional use, I'm not that confident.
gfaccin said:
I teach everyday using projectors. When the battery is low, I use the hdmi output with a cable, so that the device can charge during the lecture. When it's high, I use Netgear's PTV3000 so that I can walk around the students, and stream through wifi.
I have a chromecast at home too, but it works only with selected apps (Netflix and Youtube), and does not work that well: it disappears frequently from the network.
Some people managed to mirror their screens with chromecast, but it was through hacks. Only very recently I heard of it as an official feature, which does not show in my chromecast yet.
In short, if you are out to buy your gear, I'd suggest you to take the PTV3000, because I can confirm to you that it will work well, no matter how you will use it. Chromecast is cheaper, but might crash in the middle of your lecture. It's ok for home use, but for professional use, I'm not that confident.
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Do the projectors you connect to have HDMI in, or are you using some king of digital to analogue converter? I also use my 2012 GNote to lecture, but the Allshare cast dongle stopped working with my VGA input only legacy data projectors. I assume this is because Samsung introduced HDCP to the dongle with a firmware update. If the PTV3000 works with ordinary D/A converters then I will get one of these. As it stands I had to purchase a "special" D/A converter that removes the HDCP handshake.
I use the HDMI connection. Have not tried it using a digital converter.
I use Tronsmart T1000 miracast device (it was around 30 EUR delivered) and it works just fine mirroring screen of my Note.
I also have HDMI2VGA adaptor box for the times when I can't connect to HDMI, it works fine and doesn't need any additional power.
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What are some alternatives to the AllShare Cast Dongle? It's not even available yet. How else can I hook up my phone via wireless to a tv set?
Mhl with a wireless hdmi transmitter receiver setup
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enz660 said:
What are some alternatives to the AllShare Cast Dongle? It's not even available yet. How else can I hook up my phone via wireless to a tv set?
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I am also really interested in this. Would love all the info anyone can give
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I am also really interested in this. Would love all the info anyone can give
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is there a way to connect to a tv not wirelessly? like using usb?
Nexus Q and HTC Media link should work. I am not sure if they are exact mirrors like the dongle but it should be.
Nexus Q can't do screen mirroring. The HTC Medialink isn't compatible with the Galaxy S3 due to proprietary software.
You're stuck with the $99 allshare cast dongle. I'd wait though since a lot of screen mirroring solutions are going to be made available and most likely cheap by the end of 2012. The WiFi Alliance is working on something called Miracast which is essentially android screen mirroring.
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Nexus Q can't do screen mirroring. The HTC Medialink isn't compatible with the Galaxy S3 due to proprietary software.
You're stuck with the $99 allshare cast dongle. I'd wait though since a lot of screen mirroring solutions are going to be made available and most likely cheap by the end of 2012. The WiFi Alliance is working on something called Miracast which is essentially android screen mirroring.
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Apparently someone said the HTC media link works with the GS3. There was a thread on it.
You could buy a Samsung DVD or bluray player that has the allshare capability.
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You could buy a Samsung DVD or bluray player that has the allshare capability.
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..different things, all share DLNA ( share movies from PC, phone to TV ) is different to All share cast ( where the phone is replicated on TV )
Need this!
So Im a school teacher and bought a GSIII for this accessory. Why isnt it available and does anyone know when it will be available? Im trying to do research now to see if I can get the HTC one to work with my GSIII, also I have a Nexus7 I would like to figure out how to make that work as well.
due to the overpricing of this thing (it'll be about 110 USD in sweden) I decided to pre-order an Ouya instead as it basically gives me the features I wanted an allshare dongle for but at the same price. But for those $100 I get a standalone tegra 3 device instead, basically a htc one x without a screen. It wont be out until march but the money value here is worth the wait.
Hello, anyone know if it´s possible to emulate the allshare cast dongle with a PC ??
i mean, that piece of hardware must use some software that can be inatalles as a program in a notebook and then the notebook connected to the TV.
Could this be done?
PD: chrome cast doesn´t mirror the games for example and samsung dongle yes
chromecast alternatives and other ways to mirror your phone... [via and xbox]
With all the new apps and wireless technologies out there now, is there a way to get the same cast functionality going through an XBOX connected TV with your phone?
I have a Samsung Note 3 and XBOX 360 and want to mirror my phones screen and control some apps like you can with the Chromecast, mainly a web browser on the XBOX.
Thank you for any help!!
z13urge said:
With all the new apps and wireless technologies out there now, is there a way to get the same cast functionality going through an XBOX connected TV with your phone?
I have a Samsung Note 3 and XBOX 360 and want to mirror my phones screen and control some apps like you can with the Chromecast, mainly a web browser on the XBOX.
Thank you for any help!!
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I installed Mirror OP sender and Mirror Op receiver on my notebook and cell phone and then connected the notebook with HDMI to my TV. I have mirror now, but it has too much lag.
If someone make some retroengineering on an all share cast dongle i think we can emulate it, the notebook or pc connected to the tv has to have enough power to copy the software functions of that dongle!! . Soemone must know more about this.
CLaudioman2009 said:
I installed Mirror OP sender and Mirror Op receiver on my notebook and cell phone and then connected the notebook with HDMI to my TV. I have mirror now, but it has too much lag.
If someone make some retroengineering on an all share cast dongle i think we can emulate it, the notebook or pc connected to the tv has to have enough power to copy the software functions of that dongle!! . Soemone must know more about this.
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I would be surprised if not nearly any laptop out there got more power than the small dongle device?
In addition I think the lag (most recognizable in games) might come from the wireless transmission maybe?
CLaudioman2009 said:
I installed Mirror OP sender and Mirror Op receiver on my notebook and cell phone and then connected the notebook with HDMI to my TV. I have mirror now, but it has too much lag.
If someone make some retroengineering on an all share cast dongle i think we can emulate it, the notebook or pc connected to the tv has to have enough power to copy the software functions of that dongle!! . Soemone must know more about this.
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I connected my S3 to our TV and it had a bit of a lag as well. I've only used this to view videos and pics but they don't take up the whole TV screen, kinda defeating the purpose or am I missing something?
Geekboy26 said:
I connected my S3 to our TV and it had a bit of a lag as well. I've only used this to view videos and pics but they don't take up the whole TV screen, kinda defeating the purpose or am I missing something?
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I asked the Samsung chat support for this youtube video : watch?v=FX3y7O_TOew
they told me that feature was only available for rooted concept devices, so... we can see that they do the same as Chrome Cast dongle but without buying any dongle. ...
this so called "WEB PAGE SHARE" function doesnt appear on new note 2, s4, s3 or note 3, maybe someone can make a rom or something to make this work ??? its also showed in this video:
youtube watch?v=dk5stWQQDu4
hmmmm
What is difference between the "AllShare Cast Dongle" and EZCast?
Anyone tried them both?
via hdmi
Hi all.
I don't know why this seems to be such a difficult thing to do but I can't seem to get a straight answer.
I have a Galaxy Note 2, my wife has a Sensation XE and we both will soon have Nexus 7 and/or Nexus 10 - possibly. What I want to achieve is a way to send video content including things like netflix from our devices to our TV wirelessly.
I don't want to have seperate receivers etc for each device but I am happy for a software solution if a hardware one is not available.
Thanks
im not sure about netflix and stuff because i don't use it, but when you have any videos theres a button on the top with like a small tv and 3 lines or so all together like a little symbol, your tv provided its a samsung, should be connected on the same wifi as your phone and all you have to do is clack that button and it should work.
As for youtube which is what i sometimes use, i just pair it with the TV and it connects straight away.. really simple
This looks similar to what your after .
http://gigaom.com/mobile/how-to-wirelessly-stream-android-media-to-an-hdtv-doubletwist-airsync/
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If your tv is not dlna compliant
Yiu had to buy samsung dongle wbich connect to uiur tv and yiu can stream to your tv over wifi
I th8nk its called allshare cast
I use a free app skifta to stream my nas contents to my tv or my phone
Use it via my wd livetv smp to play contents to my tv from my note 2
LLanito said:
im not sure about netflix and stuff because i don't use it, but when you have any videos theres a button on the top with like a small tv and 3 lines or so all together like a little symbol, your tv provided its a samsung, should be connected on the same wifi as your phone and all you have to do is clack that button and it should work.
As for youtube which is what i sometimes use, i just pair it with the TV and it connects straight away.. really simple
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I've tried that with an app called 'Skifta' to a laptop running xbmc (for testing purposes) but it only supports local content and a select few stations/channels of which netflix isn't one. My TV is a 6 year old Bush LCD IDTV so no DLNA
b4d5h0t said:
This looks similar to what your after .
http://gigaom.com/mobile/how-to-wirelessly-stream-android-media-to-an-hdtv-doubletwist-airsync/
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Looks good except I don't have xbox 360 or PS3
boxer29 said:
If your tv is not dlna compliant
Yiu had to buy samsung dongle wbich connect to uiur tv and yiu can stream to your tv over wifi
I th8nk its called allshare cast
I use a free app skifta to stream my nas contents to my tv or my phone
Use it via my wd livetv smp to play contents to my tv from my note 2
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Does allshare cast work on non-samsung devices? I'll look at WD LiveTV
kinsago said:
I've tried that with an app called 'Skifta' to a laptop running xbmc (for testing purposes) but it only supports local content and a select few stations/channels of which netflix isn't one. My TV is a 6 year old Bush LCD IDTV so no DLNA
Looks good except I don't have xbox 360 or PS3
Does allshare cast work on non-samsung devices? I'll look at WD LiveTV
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yes allshare cast works on older tv which are not smart tv.
if your samsung tv is new it would be dlna or smart tv so you wont need that allshare cast
boxer29 said:
yes allshare cast works on older tv which are not smart tv.
if your samsung tv is new it would be dlna or smart tv so you wont need that allshare cast
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Sorry, what I meant was, does allshare cast work with non-samsung phones/tablets (see OP).
I don't have a samsung TV nor can I afford one.
Well, it's a hardware solution, and right now is a lil bit on the pricey side. Gigabyte skyvision ws100.
The advantage, you can use it with whatever devices with hdmi i/o capability. It seems it pretty much works flawlessly and without lag, if I had came across it couple of months before I might have bought one instead a 30m+ HDMI cable than runs from my PC to the TV in the living room. If I had, now I could easily switch between PC (gaming), laptop (movie watching), and now phones (occasional viewing of photos and stuff). And, I could use it to stream av to the projector in our bedroom.... might still consider this Christmas.
Best regards.
The device is called Allshare cast dongle. It works with any TV with HDMI port. Plugs in to the hdmi port and you connects your to galaxy device over "wifi direct" (you dont need a wifi network for this to work). Its not sold in North America (thanks to apple) but is widely available on amazon and ebay for under $100.
Hope this helps.
Cheers
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Well, it's a hardware solution, and right now is a lil bit on the pricey side. Gigabyte skyvision ws100.
The advantage, you can use it with whatever devices with hdmi i/o capability. It seems it pretty much works flawlessly and without lag, if I had came across it couple of months before I might have bought one instead a 30m+ HDMI cable than runs from my PC to the TV in the living room. If I had, now I could easily switch between PC (gaming), laptop (movie watching), and now phones (occasional viewing of photos and stuff). And, I could use it to stream av to the projector in our bedroom.... might still consider this Christmas.
Best regards.
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I shall investigate. The problem with cables however is that the devices have different HDMI outputs (if at all) hence wanting wireless solution.
farhanali_ said:
The device is called Allshare cast dongle. It works with any TV with HDMI port. Plugs in to the hdmi port and you connects your to galaxy device over "wifi direct" (you dont need a wifi network for this to work). Its not sold in North America (thanks to apple) but is widely available on amazon and ebay for under $100.
Hope this helps.
Cheers
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I'm aware of the allshare dongle but I need it to work with more than samsung devices (see OP)
Would ANYBODY know ?
[/B]Does anybody know if it's possible to mirror the phone onto a smart tv without the use of a dongle????
and i don't mean videos, i mean complete mirroring???[/B]
has anyone tried this
i nkow the GS3 worked with the Netgear PTV3000
but it seems to be a case by case thing, because the NOte 10.1 didn't
I bought the all share cast hub, but it sucks, because only the Note 2 can connect to it, and no other Miracast certified device (laptop) can
although the allshare cast is based on Miracast
So I am looking to get the PTV3000 which I know my laptop will connect to, and any miracast phone should (Nexus 4, GS3 already confirmed to work)
I hope someone who has tried the GNote 2 can weigh in
Thanks
SS2006 said:
has anyone tried this
i nkow the GS3 worked with the Netgear PTV3000
but it seems to be a case by case thing, because the NOte 10.1 didn't
I bought the all share cast hub, but it sucks, because only the Note 2 can connect to it, and no other Miracast certified device (laptop) can
although the allshare cast is based on Miracast
So I am looking to get the PTV3000 which I know my laptop will connect to, and any miracast phone should (Nexus 4, GS3 already confirmed to work)
I hope someone who has tried the GNote 2 can weigh in
Thanks
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If you look here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1847290 you can see that the Samsung Galaxy S3 is supposed to work with Netgear ptv3000. But there is also issues as seen here http://goo.gl/TkAUT
I currently own a Galaxy Note 2 (sgh-i317m LTE model) and the new Push2TV (ptv3000) and no matter what I do I cannot get it to work
My phone runs on stock 4.1.1 JB and my PTV3000 is up to date.
If I put the Push2Tv in Miracast "mode" I see it from my GN2 AllShare Cast menu and it tries to connect ... but after many seconds it fails.
If someone else got it to work I would like to know also
SyCoQC said:
If you look here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1847290 you can see that the Samsung Galaxy S3 is supposed to work with Netgear ptv3000. But there is also issues as seen here http://goo.gl/TkAUT
I currently own a Galaxy Note 2 (sgh-i317m LTE model) and the new Push2TV (ptv3000) and no matter what I do I cannot get it to work
My phone runs on stock 4.1.1 JB and my PTV3000 is up to date.
If I put the Push2Tv in Miracast "mode" I see it from my GN2 AllShare Cast menu and it tries to connect ... but after many seconds it fails.
If someone else got it to work I would like to know also
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Full Miracast support isn't approved until Android 4.2 (according to Wiki)
Just received an email from Netgear support:
Thank you for choosing NETGEAR. My name is ... and I will be your support expert. I appreciate the opportunity to assist you.
Regarding the concern, sometime early next year Netgear will release the firmware for this device that will enable the Miracast to work with your smart phone. So at present you will not be able to use this feature from your Smart Phone.
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I know 4.2 will officially support Miracast but we are talking about "AllShare Cast". The partnership has been announced between Samsung and Netgear but I see an update will be required.
SyCoQC said:
Just received an email from Netgear support:
I know 4.2 will officially support Miracast but we are talking about "AllShare Cast". The partnership has been announced between Samsung and Netgear but I see an update will be required.
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Ah..I see. AllSHare cast TO a PVT3000. Wow. That's a great idea!! The second it works I will buy a Netgear PVT 3000!
Edit: Found this.
I'm running Sprint GSIII w/ 4.1 and follow these steps:
1) Hook up the PTV3000 like normal (power, HDMI)
2) When it's booted up and displays ready to connect, I push the little button on the side and get the PTV3000 into Miracast mode
3) Launch "Allshare Cast" from the GSIII, click on and let it scan. It should display some "random" Netgear PTV3000 number
4) Click "Connect"; a pop-up window should open saying "Connecting", and once done you should be connected.
.....and that's it. Whatever you do on the phone will display on your TV exactly as does in the palm of your hand. Sometimes I have to toggle the button on the side of the PTV3000 and restart the Allshare Cast app to get it to connect, but nothing else is necessary.
http://forums.androidcentral.com/samsung-galaxy-note-10-1/224488-allshare-cast-netgear-ptv3000.html
1) Hook up the PTV3000 like normal (power, HDMI)
2) When it's booted up and displays ready to connect, I push the little button on the side and get the PTV3000 into Miracast mode
3) Launch "Allshare Cast" from the GSIII, click on and let it scan. It should display some "random" Netgear PTV3000 number
4) Click "Connect"; a pop-up window should open saying "Connecting", and once done you should be connected.
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All that process is exactly what I do, but at step 4 it says "Connecting", for a while, then it fails
I have a Canadian Rogers Galaxy Note II with stock 4.1.1 rom (simply rooted). It looks like it should work but it doesn't. I've even tried to connect right after switching between the WiDi to Miracast mode (saw this trick elsewhere) but it's a no go.
I'll wait for Netgear update :angel:
GS3 vs. GNII - shouldn't they both work??
It's strange that GS3 works while GNII doesnt - no? Really looking for a simple solution to push out to tv. have GTV 1Gen version (revue) and can't get anything to work properly to push to tv. was oping this box could do it!
sonicthoughts said:
It's strange that GS3 works while GNII doesnt - no? Really looking for a simple solution to push out to tv. have GTV 1Gen version (revue) and can't get anything to work properly to push to tv. was oping this box could do it!
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Yes strange, I thought GS3 and GN2 were very similar. I've tried may scenario like resetting my PTV3000 with the reset button, restarted my GN2, tried to connect right after switching mode, waited for a complete AllShare Cast scan... and no solutions seems to work at the moment.
If someone know how to make it work without any PTV3000 update I'm ready to try
So is there any chance of extending the display to 1080p and outputting this to the miracast adapter? Ideally running two displays: An input device application (e.g. virtual KB/ mouse) on the phone and the main Android display on the monitor/TV?
Does a similar solution exist currently?
Connects to PTV3000 on LL1 build, get black screen on TV and settings FC on phone
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Connects to PTV3000 on LL1 build, get black screen on TV and settings FC on phone
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same here
Updated PTV3000 to 2.2.2 firmware, still doesn't work, at least gives an error though, complains about HDCP. Works great on my Nexus 4 now though.
scepterr said:
Connects to PTV3000 on LL1 build, get black screen on TV and settings FC on phone
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maybe working with gn2
scepterr said:
Updated PTV3000 to 2.2.2 firmware, still doesn't work, at least gives an error though, complains about HDCP. Works great on my Nexus 4 now though.
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I never post anything, but I thoght this might help a few people.
There has been reports of it working with the Galaxy note 2, with firmware 2.2.4
productforums. google. com /forum /#!topic/ mobile/ 5kUFRgcEYXE (cant post links)
I havent tried it yet, I will once I get home and can hook it up to my tv.
/cross fingers
Equinoxio said:
I never post anything, but I thoght this might help a few people.
There has been reports of it working with the Galaxy note 2, with firmware 2.2.4
productforums. google. com /forum /#!topic/ mobile/ 5kUFRgcEYXE (cant post links)
I havent tried it yet, I will once I get home and can hook it up to my tv.
/cross fingers
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If that is true I will buy one as well.
Edit:I asked some questions over in that forum as well.
2.2.6 released.
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2410607/PTV3K_V2.2.6.sbin
"Chris LudlowLevel 1 Post replyJan 14 (15 hours ago)
I can confirm that the 2.2.4 firmware works with my Note 2.
PTV3000 2.2.4
Fully stock Note 2 AT&T - with the new 4.1.2 JB (multi window) update from samsung.
I had tried 2.1.4, 2.1.5, 2.2.2 and none worked.
After applying the 2.2.4 firmware the 1st couple of times connection failed. It turned off my wifi on the phone for some reason. When I turned it back on, opened Chrome browser then pulled the drop down message/task window and hit the "AllShare Cast" button, voila! It connected and is working pretty darn well considering this is beta. Lag is about 1 second, but all I want to do is watch pod casts/videos. Youtube as well as videos from channel9.msdn.com are playing perfectly (which I believe uses a silverlight/html 5 player).
I received a text in the middle of a video, so I flipped out to read it (mirrored on TV perfectly) but when I went back to chrome, the TV was stuck on the view of my message. I turned off the allcast, back on and it's running fine again."
https://productforums.google.com/forum/#!msg/mobile/5kUFRgcEYXE/EaqSUrE58v8J
That's a done deal for me. Buying one. You can set up PS3 Media Server to run from a PC, and use UPNPlayer to access PS3 Media Server on the Note 2, then play a video through MX Player or DicePlayer and wirelessly, sending it to the Netgear PVT3000. And that's my goal.
I will put up a video once I have this working.
It is stuff like this that still casts a shadow on android. Apple tends to work really well with apple products but android based on open source which supposedly supports more standards out of the box just asks for a bad rap when OEM's halfass hardware support. And why doesn't android still not have a GOTO product that supports mirroring and dual screen support? Android is just begging for a universal dock, much like laptops have had for awhile, but the OEM's are too greedy and limit accessories on the fact that you'll buy the next accessory that is only supported by x phone or x brand.
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@rbiter said:
It is stuff like this that still casts a shadow on android. Apple tends to work really well with apple products but android based on open source which supposedly supports more standards out of the box just asks for a bad rap when OEM's halfass hardware support. And why doesn't android still not have a GOTO product that supports mirroring and dual screen support? Android is just begging for a universal dock, much like laptops have had for awhile, but the OEM's are too greedy and limit accessories on the fact that you'll buy the next accessory that is only supported by x phone or x brand.
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Apple requires an Apple TV to "Airplay" and this means obviously, totally closed source. Android is developing the open sourced Miracast into it's operating system base. That means ANY Miracast enabled device will allow for functioning wireless display. Samsung's All Share cast can already connect with a Samsung dongle OR a Samsung TV that has AllShare Cast enabled. BUT, Allshare ALSO works with a Miracast enabled receiver, like the PVT3000 which is in firmware dev right now.
PVT3000 firmware 2.2.4 works with Stock Allshare cast Samsung ROMS currently (with some noise issues).
While Android, being that it is open source doesn't have a dedicated wireless app, besides Miracast, is going to run behind Apple, once it is finished solving the bugs it will surpass Apple just like everything else in Android that has been refined does.
Take a look at the Nexus 4 Miracasting. And you don't need "Android/Google TV" to use it.
3:30 mark to see the delay from Nexus 4 to the screen (perfect for video...not for gaming)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DwvYrv2s9Kk
Now...see what NVIDIA has done using the Tegra 3 to enhance Miracast.
:35 mark for delay example.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b52zqNIeQso
What's my point? It will get there, and when it does, it will be excellent.
EDIT: LG tv's are coming with Miracast built in. Check out this video. practically zero lag.
56 second mark for example.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xPzRWw5LNL4
Edit 2:
Also..AirPlay has HUGE delays. About 3-4 seconds. While Miracast is getting down to around 60MS.
http://forum.algoriddim.com/viewtopic.php?id=1307
Manufacturers getting on board with Miracast:
http://certifications.wi-fi.org/sea...=&date_from=&date_to=&selected_certifications[]=69&x=62&y=15
and
http://certifications.wi-fi.org/sea...=&date_from=&date_to=&selected_certifications[]=67&x=37&y=8
I would say with this kind of collaboration it won't be long before Miracast comes to Apple products, unless Apple doesn't want that...then they had better expand the allowed receivers and improve their latency dramatically.
PVT3000 works on Galaxy Note 2 stock 4.1 ROM.
Ok. Received my Netgear PVT300 and here is what I have found so far. ONly testing with the 2.2.4 currently using a Galaxy Note 2 with stock ROM with power saving mode off.
1. NO noise line (garbled or digitized delays in the feed)
2. Sound and video sync fine.
3. If I am streaming Youtube, it seems that it works great, then may pause or stutter a bit. If I pick the phone up and click the power button or rotate the phone in my hand the stuttering goes away almost instantly. Like the phone has gone to sleep and moving it or pressing power brings the CPU back up to full speed. This may be important if Samsung needs to know that AllShare Cast sleeps too easily.
4. Netflix will NOT play through my wifi network when I have the AllShare cast on. Instead it grabs the cell tower for some weird reason. Also, equally as strange, Netflix plays the 16:9 (widescreen) videos in 4:3 (standard) making them look compressed...squished. Bizarre. As soon as I drop AllShare Cast the image goes widescreen and uses the wifi again.
5. Sometimes the AllShare complains that the stream is unstable and if I reconnect I might get a better signal. I am going to try placing the PVT in a better line of site place as it sits behind my HDTV right now.
6. And you aren't going to believe this one. I can connect to the PVT, then open up UPNPlayer, THEN...open a video that is being served from my PS3 Media Server off my PC, and play a 720P movie through the phone and out to the PVT. Unreal.
7. The only real hiccup is some actual frame dropping during playing. It's not bad...really barely noticeable But I can see it. If I have to guess I would say that there is a sync problem of some sort as the hiccup happens in a very evenly timed interval. Like every 23 out of 25 frames, that frame drops.
8. The delay is really minimal. I mean, you can see the delay from phone screen movement to TV, but even if you wanted to play a game...you could do it without much trouble if the game didn't require pinpoint reactivity (think Angry Birds Star Wars..lol)
Future testing plans:
I have not tried long term video playing, but I plan to and I plan to do it with the screen forced to stay on as well....just to see if the phone is deep sleeping and making the stream stutter because of it. I also plan to do all these same tests with 2.2.6 or the next beta that comes out (whichever happens first). I also want to try a customer ROM with a better kernel. I had a ROM on before and used the Perseus kernel and man....the phone was stupid fast. But I think it was killing the battery. Actually...that is another thing I wasnt to check. Making sure the battery can still charge while doing all of this. Sometimes running too many things and the GPS at the same time won't let the battery charge fast enough to beat the drain. Depends on your wall adapter really. Samsung's adapter is a 2 amp output and the phone needs it sometimes.
I could video my findings, but I doubt anyone cares that much.
HDCP
With a rooted note 2 running CleanROM ACE, I consistently get HDCP errors when attempting to connect. My girlfriend's stock note 2 works fine.
I'm not an expert, however from what I've read most roms do not include the files for HDCP authentication. I searched my device for libstagefright_hdcp.so for example, and came up with nothing.
The question arises:
Can you simply toss those files in the file system where they need to be? Will this yield the desired result?
I've also seen discussion of Cyanogen including these files with a setting to disable HDCP if a device is buggy. Can anyone confirm that?
Thanks for your time.
I accidentally sat on my galaxy note 8 yesterday (damn it) and the screen is now broken... i cannot see anything (part of the screen is dark and other part is "scrambled") ... anyway I now want to convert the device into an android tv device as repair will cost too much...problem is I cannot navigate with the device touchscreen as I can't see nothing....
what do i need to completely convert it into an android tv? software, cables, etc... I bought the mhl hdmi cables from ebay but none worked... recommend me the correct cables to buy plz.. thx
You're in a "catch 22" scenario, you could use an OTG cable and a mouse, to enable Bluetooth and pair to a Bluetooth keyboard and mouse, but you can't see the screen to make the pair and you can't use the MHL cable and the OTG cable together.
You'll be better off getting a new screen off eBay and replacing it yourself.
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no way to "navigate" using adb something like that and set up a bash script that outputs/tv mirroring with mhl?
Replacing the screen seems quite pricey (I am going to use that money to buy a budget chinese dual boot android/win8 tab instead)
As for using it as a TV...
Seems like the stock video player does pass 1080i 30pfs well, all other players paid or not only passes 720p.
As most all streaming services push 720p as High Def, using 1080i would be very rare, and with today's standards to allow Cable to choke our internet. There is a monopoly going on, and if it were the 70's Comcast and Verizon would be heading to court just like AT&T.
You can get a MHL HDMI adapter, and use it to use a TV to connect. I have a Samsung TV, so Anynet+ will automatically turn on the TV and switch to the input when connected to the tablet.
All you need to do, is make sure the MHL HDMI adapter is connected to the USB power before connecting to the tablet. You can either plug in the MHL adapter before powering on the tablet or plug in once the tablet has been booted up. If plugging in while off, give it a few minutes to display on the TV.
The nice thing is that the adapter will work without need of any settings changes. I use Miracast as it does not need cables and works a wee better. Though many complain about how it functions, i think it is because of modded ROMs and the lack that they do not use Samsung's update to fully optimize the workings of their tablets.
If using Miracast, you will need a MHL adapter to configure the tablet for syncing... once configured you wont need to connect the MHL adapter. Though if any Miracast settings get changed your not going to be able connect and use your tv, since your tablet's display is broken.
I prefer a stock ROM, as it is fully working, and don't having to fix what others break.
thx for the reply but the problem is I cannot use the screen as it's broken... any ideas are welcome
ok guys some progress!
using
https://code.google.com/p/androidscreencast/ and http://www.mymobiler.com/
I am able to control my galaxy note 8 from pc now with a usb connection
https://code.google.com/p/androidscreencast/ is straightforward but it is very slow and could not get keyboard and mouse to work. I used it to install mymobiler app and grant root access to it... with mymobiler, i can use mouse and keyboard and it is faster but still lags... if anyone knows better/lagless screen mirroring app, let me know.
Now, next step is to connect physical bluetooth mouse and keyboard and hdmi so that i can use it as an android desktop/tv pc
ok connected it to my lg monitor and i have an error on my lg monitor HDMI OUT OF RANGE 33.8kHz/30Hz .. any idea?
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ok connected it to my lg monitor and i have an error on my lg monitor HDMI OUT OF RANGE 33.8kHz/30Hz .. any idea?
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You may have to check for PC mode on your telie... My Samsung has the capabilities to run PAL or NTSC through the PC input or HDMI 3, though it is undocumented. Once set at PC, you may have it sync properly.
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You may have to check for PC mode on your telie... My Samsung has the capabilities to run PAL or NTSC through the PC input or HDMI 3, though it is undocumented. Once set at PC, you may have it sync properly.
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where do you set this?
I tried it on another monitor (a benq), it detects the signal but nothing is displayed (it displays no preset mode)... I think it's a problem with resolution? I works with my lg led tv only so far...
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where do you set this?
I tried it on another monitor (a benq), it detects the signal but nothing is displayed (it displays no preset mode)... I think it's a problem with resolution? I works with my lg led tv only so far...
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My TV was made in 2008 and has 3D capabilities... Since it is Samsung, there are some features Samsung uses with HDMI connectivity. Such as AnyNet+, as it will detect and switch to the input automatically when connected.
Samsung has a few hidden features on my telie that not all telies have... even within their product lines.
To enable DVI/HDMI for PC use, you must go into the user menu to label the inputs.
There are preset labels, one being PC. That has to be set on HDMI 3 or a DVI/HDMI input.
If your teli has a DB15 SVGA connector, you may have to use an inline HDMI to Analog converter. As used in older projectors.
There can be issues right away, since Samsung uses AnyNet+ and other features within HDMI 3.1 Spec for the tablet and telie.
These issues can be the lack of detecting the tablets output or visa-versa in linking. Also modded firmware don't pay well at all for me.
I reverted to stock so I can use all the features that the tablet offers without having issues.
The stock video player does a great job at delivering 1080p @ 30fps, I wish MXplayer did that, but it comes in handy for video formats that the stock player can't do. The best I can get from MXplayer is 720p @ 60fps. So it seems that MXplayer may be an option if resolution detection is not syncing between stock player. Also the tablet does a great job at converting frame rates with all video players.
Another hidden and undocumented feature, is that my telie even being yank, will do Euro frame rates so I have the ability to play all frame rates, 24, 25, 30, 50, 60, and 75. Yes 75 fps... only when using PC enabled on DVI/HDMI. So I can push odd frame rates without a conversion between DVD/Blu-ray players if connected using PC analog connections or just connecting a PC to play videos.
As for connecting... I plugin the MHL / HDMI adapter to the tablet and then plug in the power adapter to the side of the MHL adapter.
Some telies will deliver 5v though the HDMI cable to power the MHL to HDMI adapter and tablet. Mine is too old and does not deliver 5v though its connection.
Hopes this helps with understanding some limitations with telies and connecting the tablet.
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My TV was made in 2008 and has 3D capabilities... Since it is Samsung, there are some features Samsung uses with HDMI connectivity. Such as AnyNet+, as it will detect and switch to the input automatically when connected.
Samsung has a few hidden features on my telie that not all telies have... even within their product lines.
To enable DVI/HDMI for PC use, you must go into the user menu to label the inputs.
There are preset labels, one being PC. That has to be set on HDMI 3 or a DVI/HDMI input.
If your teli has a DB15 SVGA connector, you may have to use an inline HDMI to Analog converter. As used in older projectors.
There can be issues right away, since Samsung uses AnyNet+ and other features within HDMI 3.1 Spec for the tablet and telie.
These issues can be the lack of detecting the tablets output or visa-versa in linking. Also modded firmware don't pay well at all for me.
I reverted to stock so I can use all the features that the tablet offers without having issues.
The stock video player does a great job at delivering 1080p @ 30fps, I wish MXplayer did that, but it comes in handy for video formats that the stock player can't do. The best I can get from MXplayer is 720p @ 60fps. So it seems that MXplayer may be an option if resolution detection is not syncing between stock player. Also the tablet does a great job at converting frame rates with all video players.
Another hidden and undocumented feature, is that my telie even being yank, will do Euro frame rates so I have the ability to play all frame rates, 24, 25, 30, 50, 60, and 75. Yes 75 fps... only when using PC enabled on DVI/HDMI. So I can push odd frame rates without a conversion between DVD/Blu-ray players if connected using PC analog connections or just connecting a PC to play videos.
As for connecting... I plugin the MHL / HDMI adapter to the tablet and then plug in the power adapter to the side of the MHL adapter.
Some telies will deliver 5v though the HDMI cable to power the MHL to HDMI adapter and tablet. Mine is too old and does not deliver 5v though its connection.
Hopes this helps with understanding some limitations with telies and connecting the tablet.
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thx for the explanation... mine works on my lg led tv but does not work on my lg monitor and benq monitors ... will try on my asus monitor also to see if it works.. but so far it seems it does not work well with monitors
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thx for the explanation... mine works on my lg led tv but does not work on my lg monitor and benq monitors ... will try on my asus monitor also to see if it works.. but so far it seems it does not work well with monitors
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Hi, I think I mis-understood about the monitor connex... Not all monitors have full HDMI security built in. HDCP compliance may be your issue.
I suggest taking your tablet with the MHL adapter to a store to have the sales person assist with finding a monitor that will work for your needs.
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Hi, I think I mis-understood about the monitor connex... Not all monitors have full HDMI security built in. HDCP compliance may be your issue.
I suggest taking your tablet with the MHL adapter to a store to have the sales person assist with finding a monitor that will work for your needs.
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thx for the help... but firstly, i bought the adapter on ebay and secondly, I don't expect buying a monitor/tv based on whether it will work with mhl... from my understanding, it should work on all tv/monitors right? isn't is a standard hdmi output??
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thx for the help... but firstly, i bought the adapter on ebay and secondly, I don't expect buying a monitor/tv based on whether it will work with mhl... from my understanding, it should work on all tv/monitors right? isn't is a standard hdmi output??
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Yes it will work on any Monitor with HDMI.
Just TV was on the top of my head when making a quick setup.
it works on my old asus lcd monitor but not on my new lg led monitor... weird... is there a way to use a usb keyboard and mouse while using hdmi?
edit: the hdmi output resolution does not really fit the screen of my monitor.. is there a way to change resolution of the hdmi output?
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it works on my old asus lcd monitor but not on my new lg led monitor... weird... is there a way to use a usb keyboard and mouse while using hdmi?
edit: the hdmi output resolution does not really fit the screen of my monitor.. is there a way to change resolution of the hdmi output?
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Depending on Monitor settings, some will auto fit or allow for edge to edge adjustment.
Also if using video player, the Samsung video player does do edge to edge, while MXplayer will not through MHL. I gave up on Per App settings in Xposed, before I could ascertain that MXplayer will do edge to edge with H/W or Software decoder.
One thing with SecondScreen, it may adjust for proper scaling with Monitors, though with my TV the built in PC input scales to have a boarder to compensate for the 5% overscan most all TVs use to keep encoded signals from showing at the edges.
Not all Monitors and TVs are perfect, but I am able to use edge to edge with some adjustment with the display or using a 3rd party app such as secondscreen.
what is secondscreen? I can't find it on playstore ... yup when i play youtube, it plays full screen... will try to play a game.. I am glad I have been able to convert my galaxy note to an android tv! lol ... another issue though... my monitor does not have speaker ... so there's no audio atm.. the galaxy note does not seem to output audio when connected via hdmi?
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what is secondscreen? I can't find it on playstore ... yup when i play youtube, it plays full screen... will try to play a game.. I am glad I have been able to convert my galaxy note to an android tv! lol ... another issue though... my monitor does not have speaker ... so there's no audio atm.. the galaxy note does not seem to output audio when connected via hdmi?
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Well the other option is to connect your tablet to your A/V receiver and pass the video to your monitor, or to get a signal splitter that will allow audio output. Depending on the quality and performance they can run as low as $20 and up to $150 so in some ways it is best to get an A/V receiver. If your A/V receiver is limited by inputs BlueJean cable has various HDMI switchers.
I have the link to the free app a few posts above this... just read the pages back till you find it. I am running the paid version so updates may be faster and better than the freebie. I went a head and updated to 1.4.5 just to see how much of a problem it is as for workarounds with Touchwiz. I still prefer 1.4.4 as it seems smoother at transitions between on and off / off and on. May revert back and just keep the old version as it does its job very well in automatic mode.
I can't find the link to Secondscreen app. Will check out if i can get a cheap av recevier
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I can't find the link to Secondscreen app. Will check out if i can get a cheap av recevier
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One note about secondscreen... it will shrink the display to have borders. Some TV / Monitors have zoom or scan adjustments to remove most of the borders.
Here is the link for the free version... https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.farmerbb.secondscreen.free
Hey guys.
I have an hdmi port in my car which hooks up to my oem display. I also have power next to the port so I can power any 12v device.
I used to use a chrome cast with my HTC M8 but that required a screen casting quick setting as casting through the app was not possible when using mobile Hotspot. The whole setup was also very taxing on the phone, and the chrome cast and mobile Hotspot didn't work well together quite often.
So now with the Note 7, what would be my best option for an hdmi dongle that supports direct screen casting? Should I get a miracast device such as a roku stick? I really don't need any more functionality aside from the screen mirroring feature.
Thanks!
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B009...share+cast&dpPl=1&dpID=41dodRzT2IL&ref=plSrch
it's a bit old, but is made specifically for Samsung devices and relies on Wi-Fi-direct(no tethering, and no existing network required)
it works using the same system as their smart TV's and is confirmed to still work with the S7 edge, so the note 7 shouldn't have a problem either.
Damn, yeah it is a bit older. Also quite expensive compared to CC or rokustick. I do like that it's wifi-direct though. And there's a quick toggle for that on our phones too.