Apps data visability on network - Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I wanted to know if the data that my apps are using on a wifi network are saved anywhere. The reason I ask is I have been using an open wifi network to connect to recently and wanted to know if the data that I'am using is being saved anywhere on the network, or the router. And what I mean by data is, login details to hotmail, banking, conversations over ebuddy, kik etc.
Also what about secure networks, where I would need a wifi login, can the data be accessed by admins if they wanted to access it at a later date, or is it only accessable by sniffing packets as they are being transmitted?
I hope Im not double posting here, but I really need an answer urgently as some of my accounts may be compromised and I need to know asap. More than happy to have my other thread deleted if I can get answers here.

I don't think so... not on the router... i think i can be saved only by sniffing the packet or Man in the middle way... which is all network traffic is rerouted to computer and then send back again to internet...

ok cool, but what about if a server was involved. I'm guess if an app like android browser went to hotmail, then the address would be stored somewhere. Would anything be stored for usernames or passwords, or chats for ebuddy or kik.

Another question, if someone is using their phone on a company wifi network say for example at their place of work. What information can the company see about the usage of that phone. For example my wife uses her companys wifi network as she doesnt have a data plan, but she is worried as she runs different applications like whats app and ebuddy and browses the internet. What can the company see about what shes doing or apps shes using or sites shes viewing. As with a standard employee they can check their internet usage but how does it work over the phone.

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A little help

Hi guys, and great forum.
At the outset mods should feel free to push this is the appropriate forum.
I seem to have fallen in love with the xda orbit/P3300. I run 2 websites and am more and more often away from home these days that my trusty nokia N73 just aint cutting it for web access.
So I have looked about at something more mobile web access tailored and bumped into this. My questions to help me:
I'm currently with Vodafone, not due an upgrade til November. I could buy the phone sim free, unlocked. Having searched the forum I see that it should work when the Voda settings (wap, mms) are entered. Is this correct?
I hear that some folk have been caught out with hefty data charges because the phone always uses gprs constantly. Again, is this right?
This probably isn't suitable for this forum, but if data charges could be an issue, would it be better to go with someone like T-mobile that give unlimited access?
Finally, having read the manual, i'm a little confused with the messaging email set up. Are texts sent immediately when you tap send? Are mms saved until you next go "online" with wap? When i want to pick up emails, can i do as i do now, connect remotely via wap to my BT server and pick up on demand, or will it always automatically do that on connecting to wap.
My apologies for the questions, and hope one of you good folk can help me out.
Thanking you in advance
Mike
Hi MikI,
It doesn't matter what device you use, as long you have access to the wap and mms gatewats, so with you vodaphone sim you should be able to.
Some software once installed (weather apps, etc) can be configured to automatically download new updates and thus incur charges without you knowing it. The phone itself has nothing to do with that.
It's really up to you with what data plan suits you, if you constantly use gprs, then you should know that getting a flatrate plan is the best thing to do, again it depends on your usage.
Yes SMS messages are immediately sent when you tap send. For MMS you can configure it to either connect automatically and send your message immediately once you tap send or to wait once you go online and then send it.
Hope that helps, just my 2 cents.
Cheers.
If your main motivation is mobile web, I would look into getting a UMTS phone..GPRS might not do the trick for your needs.
Hello gang, and thanks for your replies - they are really helpful.
Web access is one of my motivations, but the main ones I have is being able to pick up my emails from the ISP (and going on web if they emails say I have to), and the organiser functions.
Web access is really restricted to things like google searches for numbers etc, if i had to do some serious web browsing it would only be to my sites and I would hope few and far in between.
Now the choice between sim free, or a new contract
Thanks all again, and if anyone can suggest anything i may not be considering or missing about this handset I'd be most grateful.

MSN app which doesnt disconnect other clients

Hey!
First post on the forums, this seems like a place where i might find the information i require regarding this, we will see.
Im looking for an MSN messenger application that wont disconnect my other clients that are logged into the same account. (My htpc, gamer pc and work pc are all running MSN simultaneously)
I have tried a few from the Market and they all log out my computer clients when i start them.
The reason i want this is because im only using wifi on my Desire, so whenever i move out of wifi coverage i loose my connection and suddenly im not available on MSN. I know there is offline messaging etc but thats another story..
Thanks for reading and please do let me know if there is any MSN app on market that will let me do this!
As far as I know, even advanced desktop unofficial clients as Pidgin doesn't support this feature, official msn for winMO also disconnects you.
This is only supported by official Microsoft desktop products, you won't find elsewhere than on XP/Vista/7/2008-server
I'd pay some good money for such feature.
Oh bugger
I guess this is one secret MS wont let go. Would be nice if others could use this functionality also tho..

[Q][SOLVED] Is Facebook down on Andorid/Desire?

Anyone else having problems? Haven't been able to connect for a couple of days now. No posts, notifications, updates etc.
Funny enough when I try to go via web it says ""access restricted bad (IP)" - associated with abusive behaviour. What's this? Any ideas?
Edit:
It appears what has happened is that due to Orange using Proxies to log into facebook the IP addy has been blacklisted. What I am guessing is that as this coincides with the Launch of Facebook places Facebook thinks that the IP is spamming it with multiple places simultaneously and as such blacklisted the IP.
Southbarn said:
Anyone else having problems? Haven't been able to connect for a couple of days now. No posts, notifications, updates etc.
Funny enough when I try to go via web it says ""access restricted bad (IP)" - associated with abusive behaviour. What's this? Any ideas?
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So youve have restricted access for being abusive? Theres your answer. Can you log in on a computer?
Sent from my HTC Desire
Thanks for help.
Not aware I've been abusive! It's the Android/Sense apps that won't connect, and it was via the web on the phone that I got this message. Can't try the web from work as its a blocked site.
Have queried with Facebook and they say they'll get back to me.
I can't get it to work today either, it was last synchronized last night. Today neither friends stream or the Facebook app will connect
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App
If you google this there are loads of people on the Orange UK network with the same problem (me included)
Not sure if/when it'll get fixed.
Forgot to say I am on Orange too. Aha...so that's where the problem lies. They're not having a good time what with the data outage a couple of weeks ago etc etc.
It appears what has happened is that due to Orange using Proxies to log into facebook the IP addy has been blacklisted. What I am guessing is that as this coincides with the Launch of Facebook places Facebook thinks that the IP is spamming it with multiple places simultaneously and as such blacklisted the IP.
I can't seem to get any content from the touch Facebook page, it let's me sign in but that's all I see. No problem with the mobile page of the Facebook app. Im also able to load the touch page on my laptop and can access everything, so it seems there is something wrong when viewing the touch site on the desire. I'm on tmobile by the way.

WM7 Troubleshooting: Tips and Advice

Hi all,
I've just upgraded to the new HTC 7 Mozart on Orange and having a play around with the new WM7.
I'm finding quite a few teething problems and thought it would be best to start a troubleshooting thread to discuss the problems and potential solutions to them and that way this can act as a central hub for all queries as we get used to using the new OS!
1) Is it possible NOT to intergrate the FB contacts into People? I have too many FB friends and don't want them all in the People section, it's too big! Can't I pick and choose which ones I want?
2) Is there going to be an ActiveSync for WM7? How do I transfer all my contacts/calender appts from Outlook to the new phone?
3) I've connected the phone to my laptop and it's not recognising the phone. How can I access the memory and start transferring music etc?
These are just the first few problems I've been having and hoping that there might be solutions.
Thanks
sameerabedi said:
Hi all,
I've just upgraded to the new HTC 7 Mozart on Orange and having a play around with the new WM7.
I'm finding quite a few teething problems and thought it would be best to start a troubleshooting thread to discuss the problems and potential solutions to them and that way this can act as a central hub for all queries as we get used to using the new OS!
1) Is it possible NOT to intergrate the FB contacts into People? I have too many FB friends and don't want them all in the People section, it's too big! Can't I pick and choose which ones I want?
2) Is there going to be an ActiveSync for WM7? How do I transfer all my contacts/calender appts from Outlook to the new phone?
3) I've connected the phone to my laptop and it's not recognising the phone. How can I access the memory and start transferring music etc?
These are just the first few problems I've been having and hoping that there might be solutions.
Thanks
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1) There is a way, but I am not sure how as I do not have the phone.
2) There is no active sync, You need to get the outlook connector and link your outlook to your windows live.
3) You need the Zune Software installed, that is how you transfer pictures, music, videos, podcasts etc...
sameerabedi said:
Hi all,
I've just upgraded to the new HTC 7 Mozart on Orange and having a play around with the new WM7.
I'm finding quite a few teething problems and thought it would be best to start a troubleshooting thread to discuss the problems and potential solutions to them and that way this can act as a central hub for all queries as we get used to using the new OS!
1) Is it possible NOT to intergrate the FB contacts into People? I have too many FB friends and don't want them all in the People section, it's too big! Can't I pick and choose which ones I want? This was a problem before but I heard that you can set preferences with FB contacts and only get their updates, rest are ignored. I could be wrong but I don't use FB so not too sure.
2) Is there going to be an ActiveSync for WM7? How do I transfer all my contacts/calender appts from Outlook to the new phone? No, you can't sync with desktop Outlook if it is not connected to Exchange or associated with Windows Live account, aka in Cloud. Best you can do is install Outlook Live Connector and drag all contacts and calendar to the live account
3) I've connected the phone to my laptop and it's not recognising the phone. How can I access the memory and start transferring music etc? Use Zune software.
These are just the first few problems I've been having and hoping that there might be solutions.
Thanks
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Please see my replied in RED. Damn, Omega Ra got it before me.
also, it's not wm7
it's Windows Phone 7
Thanks for the responses. I can't find the option for the FB intergration and how NOT to sync the contact!
I'll try getting Outlook Live Connector and see if that works.
Apologies for the wrong abbreviation, I'll try and change the title of the thread.
Thanks
EDIT: Actually how do I change the title of the thread?
don't forget to post some feedback regarding the phone, i'm also planning to get this one i'm especially interested in widgets, if you find a nice on/off toggle for wi-fi that can be pinned to the start screen, share it please
Here's an interesting one for you (or maybe not!). I've heard from rumours across the interwebs that you cannot upload and use your own ringtone, is this true?
If so, I suspect I will have a lot of happy people at the office but I will be very unhappy!
Monty Burns said:
Here's an interesting one for you (or maybe not!). I've heard from rumours across the interwebs that you cannot upload and use your own ringtone, is this true?
If so, I suspect I will have a lot of happy people at the office but I will be very unhappy!
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This is a very worrying rumour! At the moment my laptop doesn't recognise the phone at all when I connect via USB.
Presumably the Zune software will allow you to move ringtones across? I'm at work at present so I don't know, but if that's not possible that's a huge backward step!!
Found out how to cut down on the number of Facebook contacts:
From the microsoft website
By default, all of your Facebook friends appear as contacts on your phone. If you have lots of Facebook friends showing up in your contacts list, you can choose to only show friends who are already contacts on your phone. (So, if a Facebook friend is also a contact in Windows Live or Google, their Facebook information will still show up in your contacts list. All other friends will be hidden from the list.)
1 From Start, flick left to the Applications list and then press Settings.
2 Press Applications and then press People.
3 Under Include Facebook friends as contacts, press Only add Facebook information to existing contacts to filter out Facebook friends who don't already have a contact card on your phone.
Note
This option only filters Facebook friends from your contacts list in People. It doesn't change whose social updates you'll see in What's new.
I'm not due to get my upgrade till next Wednesday, but had a theory on the ringtones situation.
Firstly, I'm assuming that you can see music stored (or at least all compatible sounds) on your phone when sellecting ringtones. Where all your music is on your laptop/desktop create a directory called ringtones and put all your ringtones there. Then sync with Zune and see if you can see it.
Probably not as easy as this but worth a try.
Kind of what I was thinking as well. My tone is actually a song so I'll just sync it....
however, my Dell doesn't arrive until the 9th so I'm sure you egg heads will crack it by then
sameerabedi said:
Found out how to cut down on the number of Facebook contacts:
From the microsoft website
By default, all of your Facebook friends appear as contacts on your phone. If you have lots of Facebook friends showing up in your contacts list, you can choose to only show friends who are already contacts on your phone. (So, if a Facebook friend is also a contact in Windows Live or Google, their Facebook information will still show up in your contacts list. All other friends will be hidden from the list.)
1 From Start, flick left to the Applications list and then press Settings.
2 Press Applications and then press People.
3 Under Include Facebook friends as contacts, press Only add Facebook information to existing contacts to filter out Facebook friends who don't already have a contact card on your phone.
Note
This option only filters Facebook friends from your contacts list in People. It doesn't change whose social updates you'll see in What's new.
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Sweet!! Nice one
Hi guys, I received my HTC HD7 about an hour ago and been playing around with it. I ran into an issue with the wireless configuration and then starting looking for solutions on this forum. Wish I hadn't! =/ I just read some of the issues affecting WP7, and I am sooOOOooo hacked off. I feel like I bought a blimmin brick now. I "upgraded" from an HTC Desire. And boy is the Desire *SO* much better in features and configurability. I really didn't think that WP7 would be so bad.
So,.,. rant over, breathe in.... the issue I have is the following. My Wifi is configured with static IP's. I've disabled DHCP on the Wifi router and I would prefer to leave it that way because otherwise it will cause a great deal of issues, because I already have a number of machines on the Wifi network using static IP's and a firewall configured only to allow those specific source addresses out to the internet. So changing all that would be a bit of an issue.
In Android its perfectly possible to configure a static IP for a Wifi connection under the Advanced settings screen. WP7 doesn't appear to have understood this concept yet... I am really quite pissed off about this oversight!
Its proof yet again that Mad Microshot, in their quest to 'simplify' life for the 'normal' users decide to cripple the OS and hide or do away with advanced features. I just feel like punching whoever decided to take that 'decision' ... hmmmppfff...
Do you guys know any way around this?
Oh, and don't get me started on copy/paste or file downloads in IE... I can't even set the start page in I.E. How Draconic is that??!!
I hope I'm not getting the wrong end of the stick here as I don't get my HD7 till next week (starting to wonder if I should bother) I can't work out what you are going through. Sorry if I have misunderstood.
Regarding your WiFi... I have static IPs here at home and 5 PCs (plus PS3, printers, phones etc) and all the settings regarding the setting of the IP's I did on the router itself. When my gf's iPhone and my WM phone connected to the wireless network all they did was put in the pass key and they were connected. The router pushed forward the settings to the device. Was very little hassle.....Is this not the case with WP7?
You do realise that with DHCP you can set specific ip addresses to be handed out to specific MAC addresses, right? So you can enable DHCP and still keep all your devices' ip addresses static except the ones you want to leave as dynamic.
As Steve Jobs would say, "It's not that big of a deal". In fact, I do this at home - certain hardware like our daughter's laptop and our 4 wireless webcams all have hard-coded ip addresses and everything else is dynamic. Works like a charm.
Try it, you might like it.
Hi guys, sorry for the rant earlier... having a bad day today...
The reason I cannot use DHCP on my wireless router is quite obscure and specific to my setup here at home. I had actually forgotten about it until I tried just now to get around the problem. I'm using a T-mobile ADSL Router and Access Point from Germany as an Access Point only. I have a separate ADSL router and a proper firewall to secure the internet gateway. Some will probably think this is overkill but I work in Internet Security so I am sadly a bit paranoid by nature.
Now, my 'DSL' router from T-Mobile... its a bit of a weird one. It was a freebie and works a treat as Access Point and has loads of coverage... that's why I like using it. But it is useless as a DHCP server if it is not connected to a telephone line. Sounds complicated? It is!
Basically, I can get it to supply an IP address to a computer or the WP7 phone just fine, but it doesn't supply the crucial DNS server details. So I'm on the network but I cannot resolve any DNS names, so I might as well not have a wireless connection. So. I'm still pissed off. I understand that Apple don't do static IP's either on the IPhone, so I must be spoiled from the Android.... hohum.
There's only two solutions for this minor dilemma; Configure a static IP AND DNS on my HD7 or get another Wifi access point....... I think I know what I'll be buying next.........
mictho100 said:
Hi guys, sorry for the rant earlier... having a bad day today...
The reason I cannot use DHCP on my wireless router is quite obscure and specific to my setup here at home. I had actually forgotten about it until I tried just now to get around the problem. I'm using a T-mobile ADSL Router and Access Point from Germany as an Access Point only. I have a separate ADSL router and a proper firewall to secure the internet gateway. Some will probably think this is overkill but I work in Internet Security so I am sadly a bit paranoid by nature.
Now, my 'DSL' router from T-Mobile... its a bit of a weird one. It was a freebie and works a treat as Access Point and has loads of coverage... that's why I like using it. But it is useless as a DHCP server if it is not connected to a telephone line. Sounds complicated? It is!
Basically, I can get it to supply an IP address to a computer or the WP7 phone just fine, but it doesn't supply the crucial DNS server details. So I'm on the network but I cannot resolve any DNS names, so I might as well not have a wireless connection. So. I'm still pissed off. I understand that Apple don't do static IP's either on the IPhone, so I must be spoiled from the Android.... hohum.
There's only two solutions for this minor dilemma; Configure a static IP AND DNS on my HD7 or get another Wifi access point....... I think I know what I'll be buying next.........
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yeah, go get yourself a cisco WAP. make your life a little easier lol.
Man after my own heart. Not overkill at all sir, in fact mine is probably very similar. Thomson ADSL modem, Watchgaurd hardware firewall and then the wireless access points by Linksys (changing them soon). Even have ftp and terminal server set up.
Most machines in the house have fixed IPs but some are just dynamic. Suppose I'll just have to wait till I get mine to see what problems I encounter
Omega Ra said:
1) There is a way, but I am not sure how as I do not have the phone.
2) There is no active sync, You need to get the outlook connector and link your outlook to your windows live.
3) You need the Zune Software installed, that is how you transfer pictures, music, videos, podcasts etc...
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For number 2, I've downloaded Outlook Hotmail Connector. How do I use it?
Do I need to configure Hotmail in my Outlook and then start transferring the contacts/calendar appts?
sameerabedi said:
For number 2, I've downloaded Outlook Hotmail Connector. How do I use it?
Do I need to configure Hotmail in my Outlook and then start transferring the contacts/calendar appts?
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After you install it I believe if you open outlook it asks about connecting it or something...haven't actually used it so not positive.

Tmobile and potential blocked shared folders?

Just curious for those on tmobile, can you access shared files on ul.to, and uploaded, on your 4G connection?
On my account they seem to be blocked, I can go to any other website, yet upload, ul.to, are all blocked using dolphin, stock, chrome browsers either set to android or desktop browser type.
It's the weirdest thing. Anyone else have this issue.?
Rapidgator, filepost work fine to date..
I know some do piracy downloads so don't bash me, but I actually have accounts for both and use them for data backups and personal pseudo cloud storage.

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