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Touch Pro 2 (GSM vs CDMA) ATT vs Verizon

Is there a CDMA hardspl? Can Verizon phones be flashed?
These phones are now just being released to Carriers
Verizon has the phone for $199
Sprint / ATT are expected to charge $299
Because I am a noob and had a tilt previously CDMA vs GSM wasn't an issue, my 2 year contract expires in a few days.
Will ROMS be cross compatible or GSM only or CDMA only?
Anyone have experience with differences in internet speeds?

Im a UK GSM user. Heres what i can tell you off hand.
Check the Rhodium CDMA forum to see if there is a HardSPL (I dont think so, yet)
$100 dollars is a lot of monies
Not cross compatible, dont do it. Dont think about it, im sure bad things happen.
No idea about internet speeds.
Me personally? GSM Model, $100 is a lot but there are far more GSM users on XDA devs therefore far more things to play about with. This phone is a toy for me, i dont need it but it occupies me. You chose!

Actually $349.99 for Sprint and T-Mobile
AT&T not listed as of yet, I will try to barter it for $199 when it comes out

Verizon actually looks very nice, but knowing them they usually block alot of stuff on their device or charge extra for things that should be free...
ATT is the way to go for me atleast...you get a wider support if its a gsm phone vs. cdma

The reason why verizon's TP2 is cheaper is because they require you to have a data plan for as long as you own the phone. the data plan is $29.99 a month. Thats $360 extra a year. I dont think spring requires a data plan which is why theirs is more expensive.

Verizon & Sprint = CDMA & GSM (first world phone for them cept BB an Nextel) Uses MSA 7601 Chip (Sprint's add on Data is 15 bucks WIN WIN with Sprint)
AT&T = GSM only and poor expensive data Network - Use's MSA7200 Chip < FAIL!

bimori said:
The reason why verizon's TP2 is cheaper is because they require you to have a data plan for as long as you own the phone. the data plan is $29.99 a month. Thats $360 extra a year. I dont think spring requires a data plan which is why theirs is more expensive.
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Sorry, but Sprint also charges you for a data plan for as long as you have the phone. However, I'm not sure whether they lock you into it for the duration of the contract or not, but who gets a smartphone without data these days?

GeoffM said:
AT&T = GSM only and poor expensive data Network - Use's MSA7200 Chip < FAIL!
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The AT&T network is consistently the fastest. It only lags slightly behind Verizon in coverage, too.

GeoffM said:
Verizon & Sprint = CDMA & GSM (first world phone for them cept BB an Nextel) Uses MSA 7601 Chip (Sprint's add on Data is 15 bucks WIN WIN with Sprint)
AT&T = GSM only and poor expensive data Network - Use's MSA7200 Chip < FAIL!
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I know I should research this but do you know the differences between both chips. I am sure people on this thread are interested as well. Any clock speed differences or is it just the carrier hermaphrodite ability?

toiletduk said:
The AT&T network is consistently the fastest. It only lags slightly behind Verizon in coverage, too.
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I'm gonna have to seriously disagree with this. This only applies in big cities. Verizon has better overall coverage and better broadband coverage. At&t also has HORRID customer service. Before At&t took over I would've agreed with this but At&t screwed everything up.
On the note of the one i would buy I would buy the Verizon or Sprint one based on the messed up keyboard design that at&t continues to go with.

I dont know about horrid customer service, It can be bad at times, but I had a tilt and warranty exchanged it twice and got a fuse. I think playing dumb with att will get you where you want to go and more info than you were looking for, Data coverage always varies upon where you live, I have lived in the sticks of upper michigan for a while now, NO 3G but never a dropped call and I mean never When I was in a bigger city with my fuse my data speeds were impressive but every time I went ut of range of a tower and conected to another it dropped my call, which is utter bull. So If your looking to buy a phone check out the internal specs on the device, see what can be unlocked and flashed to your liking and look at the device to see if it is aesthetically pleasing to your eye not someone elses, if you like the way it looks and what its got in it buy it. But just from my point of view dont buy CDMA having a sim card rocks you can put it into any phone and bam! new phone! Well any compatible phone but there are a lot of them. CDMA phones are a carriers way of shoving a cactus up you a** and telling you to like it.

7600 vs 7601
sdlopez83 said:
I know I should research this but do you know the differences between both chips. I am sure people on this thread are interested as well. Any clock speed differences or is it just the carrier hermaphrodite ability?
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Former Qualcommer here, and was involved in this, at least from the finance perspective.
The chips are identical in function. The only difference between the two of them were that the 7601 chips had a power save function disabled to be in compliance with a broadcom ruling on the 686 patent infringement case. This has long since been settled and the two companies are at peace with each other. It was only an issue for chips being imported into the USA from Singapore.
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Former Qualcommer here, and was involved in this, at least from the finance perspective.
The chips are identical in function. The only difference between the two of them were that the 7601 chips had a power save function disabled to be in compliance with a broadcom ruling on the 686 patent infringement case. This has long since been settled and the two companies are at peace with each other. It was only an issue for chips being imported into the USA from Singapore.
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Thank you for the clarification.

I havent seen anyone respond about the Verizon version TP2 being crippled so I will. It IS NOT for the first time, everything is the same as the others except the Verizon version is much sexier

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I havent seen anyone respond about the Verizon version TP2 being crippled so I will. It IS NOT for the first time, everything is the same as the others except the Verizon version is much sexier
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THANK YOU!!! I'm considering the leap to Verizon. I would definitely like to know what you think of the device. What the removal of the ctrl key to add another message key. I really thought that was dumb...

Dont forget that if you have AT&T's family plan, you can ditch the data plan for the TP2 and add medianet for the dumb phone for $15 then swap SIM chip. Now you have TP2 with unlimited data plan for only $15.

Bxsteez said:
THANK YOU!!! I'm considering the leap to Verizon. I would definitely like to know what you think of the device. What the removal of the ctrl key to add another message key. I really thought that was dumb...
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Absolutely wonderful!! The screen on this thing is simply beautiful, and the speed and smoothness of TF3D is quite an improvement of the TP. Overall, the BEST ppc that I have laid eyes on and I enjoy using it everytime I pick it up....enjoy looking at it too. I highly reccomend it!!

how do we even know if weve got the CDMA or GSM version .. ??

stanglifemike said:
Absolutely wonderful!! The screen on this thing is simply beautiful, and the speed and smoothness of TF3D is quite an improvement of the TP. Overall, the BEST ppc that I have laid eyes on and I enjoy using it everytime I pick it up....enjoy looking at it too. I highly reccomend it!!
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Hmmm I was expecting a comparison to the WWE edition. The comparisons to the TP is what i already know but thanks. I had the TP and the Xperia and no doubt that the TP2 is by far better than those two. It is the greatest winmo device i've ever used and it had the best stock rom i've ever used as well. Thats why i'm thinking about making the switch to cdma. I like to be able to change phones as much as I want thats why i stuck with At&t.

well I'm sure you know about the GSM capabilities and the Verizon sim card already installed in the phone

AT&T withdrew application to buy out T-Mobile

Looks like FCC Chairman Julius Genachowski's request for a formal hearing on AT&T's proposed acquisition of T-Mobile may have had a bit of an effect. AT&T has announced that it and Deutsche Telekom have formally withdrawn their application related to the deal's approval that was submitted back in April. Interestingly, AT&T went on to say that because of the FCC's request for a hearing, it's added a $4 billion charge into its Q4 2011 financials to reflect the amount it would owe should the deal fail to be approved. That $4 billion breaks down into $3 billion in cash and $1 billion worth of spectrum.
All of this doesn't necessarily mean that AT&T and Deutsche Telekom are just giving up on the deal, though, as AT&T specifically says that the two companies are continuing pursuit of the sale of DT's assets. AT&T explains that it's withdrawn the FCC application in order to step back and reconsider all of its options with the government agency and will refile the application "as soon as practical." The carrier added that it plans to focus on winning the antitrust case that the U.S. Department of Justice has filed against it, either through the court case that's already pending or through alternate means.
Today's news is some of the biggest that we've seen come out of the AT&T-Mobile deal since it was announced back in March. Obviously the proposed acquisition is still very much on the table, but AT&T and Deutsche Telekom's moves give off the vibe that they're not quite as confident about the merger's approval as they may have once been. It'll be interesting to see how opponents of the acquisition react to today's news (I bet Sprint is having a happy Thanksgiving) and how the deal progresses going forward. As usual, we'll keep you up to date as the story continues to play out, so stay tuned!
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Good news, guys?

If it were over, it would be in the consumer's best interest. But they are withdrawing only their application to the FCC because the FCC has steadfastly resisted the merger (kudos to them). Now, ATT and the FCC get to fight it out in court. Hopefully the DOJ is not swayed by ATT's empty compromises. This deal would create a significant monopoly and stifle innovation while removing options the consumer has today. Remember that Deutsche Telekom is a non-US company and unlike ATT, everything it does, including its radio frequencies, is global.

Yah it's over
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Yah it's over
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Sure hope you are right -
but according to a communication analyst quoted in the New York times there is a low chance that At&T might still be able to pull it off
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/11/25/t...-mobile-takes-a-step-back.html?pagewanted=all

i actually welcome the idea
if ATT + Tmo merger went through, that will mean the end of the AWS phones
Tmo is the only mass network that attracts phone manufactures to make AWS 1700/2100 phones
the first thing ATT wanted to do is to take down the AWS network to use it for LTE
so hell no, i don't support that

If T-Mobile goes down all those 1700 phones will be gone. Then those of us in Canada who use Mobilicity/Wind will be stuck with crappy phones.

yup
Also, Rogers in Canada is following its Big brother ATT foot steps as well, is trying to kick out Wind, and snatch the 1700/2100 for LTE
once Wind is out of the market, Mobilicity will become easy pray to the, as Mobi doesn't have the funds to hold against fight vs RoBelus team
Wind can take the fight simply because it has multinational backing like Tmobile

So I'm a bit confused...in the quote in the op it mentions att has set aside the money for Tmobile, but does that mean they are paying out?
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AllGamer said:
i actually welcome the idea
if ATT + Tmo merger went through, that will mean the end of the AWS phones
Tmo is the only mass network that attracts phone manufactures to make AWS 1700/2100 phones
the first thing ATT wanted to do is to take down the AWS network to use it for LTE
so hell no, i don't support that
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That's a good reason for Canadians to oppose the merger, but your neighbors to the south have other good reason to oppose the merger -
higher prices for rate plans
crappier customer service
tendency to cripple their phones unnecessarily
There is some speculation that t-mobile might disappear even if this merger fails (the parent company, T-Mobile International AG, may sell t-mobile for parts) and if that happens I am moving to Sprint.

kenvan19 said:
So I'm a bit confused...in the quote in the op it mentions att has set aside the money for Tmobile, but does that mean they are paying out?
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ATT still needs to pay aprox 1 Bil even if the merger does not come through as they hoped.
that was on the original proposal, it was all over the news
so either way Tmo comes out on top either way

koyanishi said:
That's a good reason for Canadians to oppose the merger, but your neighbors to the south have other good reason to oppose the merger -
higher prices for rate plans
crappier customer service
tendency to cripple their phones unnecessarily
There is some speculation that t-mobile might disappear even if this merger fails (the parent company, T-Mobile International AG, may sell t-mobile for parts) and if that happens I am moving to Sprint.
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we here up north have pretty much the same issues, so we would like to keep as many competitors as possible
before Windmobile and Mobilicity the prices were ridiculous over here
they are still ridiculous on Rogers (ATT), Bell, and other big guys
also the Rogers/Bell customer service it has been the worse for like 20 years straight...
if Wind and Mobi gets shuts-down in the near future, then i think i'll stop using cell phone all together, it's simply not worth it at the insane prices over here
Canada has the worse rate world wide, it's been documented in many research on the news from UK and USA

The merger is not dead but its on life support. Tmobile is looking to get out of the USA market and is willing to wait for AT&T work it through the courts or a Republican wins the presidency. DOJ and FCC are run by poltical appointees.
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Not to mention ATT has no interest in UMA.

This does not mean they are not moving forward. I believe they are going to try and get DOJ approval, then if they do, resubmit. I actually work for T-Mobile, and if it's either merge, or have DT look at other options for use, I kinda hope the merger goes through lol
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I would love to see this merger fail. If T-Mo got all the money from that breakup fee, it's just a matter of wanting to stay in the US because that would give them enough to keep going for awhile. I can already imagine having to upgrade to an AT&T phone with way higher prices and slower 3G speeds...LTE is probably comparable to T-Mo's HSPA+ 42 (Verizon's LTE is virtually identical), then there's data caps..so it would just be all around bad...

Tmo gets 4 Bil for breakup fee, that's super rich
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970204449804577068562250634398.html
AT&T has acknowledged that the deal is more likely to fail than succeed and set aside $4 billion to cover the breakup fee it would owe T-Mobile USA owner Deutsche Telekom AG.
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I am glad this failed cuz now it puts tmo in the perfect position to be bought out by Google. The idea is being called the first fully integrated information company/network. Scary on one level because it lends itself ripe for corruption and sensoring but on the other hand it is Google, who has never given me reason to worry. Were it Facebook or yahoo looking to purchase tmo I would be very wary.

AllGamer said:
Tmo gets 4 Bil for breakup fee, that's super rich
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970204449804577068562250634398.html
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They also suppose to get some spectrum from at&t and a roaming agreement. At&t is going through everything necessary to get the spectrum t-mobile has. Even in talks about selling off 40% of tmobile customers with leap mobile who ever they are.

I think its just a ploy to wait till after the election and then resubmit the application if a republican president gets elected (very likely). Conservatives tend to support mergers such as this as they believe in the free market determining everything, even if its not in the interest of the pubic. Allowing the merger would result in the last affordable post paid carrier being dismantled. We'll all be at the mercy of AT&T and Verizon. Sprint will probably merge too if this goes thorough, I mean why not if you allow this.
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cbinvb said:
I am glad this failed cuz now it puts tmo in the perfect position to be bought out by Google. The idea is being called the first fully integrated information company/network. Scary on one level because it lends itself ripe for corruption and sensoring but on the other hand it is Google, who has never given me reason to worry. Were it Facebook or yahoo looking to purchase tmo I would be very wary.
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I would love to see google buy tmo. we would probably stay seeing a lot more AOSP phones.
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Any news on a T-Mobile GNex?

Ive been waiting and waiting to upgrade as ive been waiting for the GNex to hit TMo but i havent heard any news lately, am i just missing news? Did they announce anything at CES?
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Nothing...use your upgrade, sell that device on marketplace, craigslist or ebay + put additional money and get the unlocked gsm version.
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Does the unlocked version get TMo 4G?
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I'm pretty sure it does. It should be "4G" capable on both At&t and Tmobile. I can definitely say it works on At&t

Yes, we get "4G" on tmobile.

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Does the unlocked version get TMo 4G?
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Yes its HSPA+ 21mbps pentaband (working on T-mo and AT&T).
They did not announce anything. There isn't even a rumor about a T-mobile release. If you want the GN, hook it up unlocked.

kirdroid said:
Nothing...use your upgrade, sell that device on marketplace, craigslist or ebay + put additional money and get the unlocked gsm version.
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Pretty much what he said. The only phone that T-Mobile announced was the Samsung Galaxy Blaze 4G which is definitely not the Galaxy Nexus.
Kind of disappointed in T-Mobile's lineup. We might see something at MWC but I wouldn't put my bets on it.

Is there some legal reason that t-mobile couldn't just bulk buy some off samsung and put it on their network?
Unless they're wanting their own version that is locked down - like AT&T is rumored to be doing.

wonshikee said:
Is there some legal reason that t-mobile couldn't just bulk buy some off samsung and put it on their network?
Unless they're wanting their own version that is locked down - like AT&T is rumored to be doing.
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Where is the source that AT&T wants to "lock" down their device?
And that doesn't sound too logical to buy phones from a company and put it on their company. If T-Mobile was able to do that then they could just buy a bunch of iPhones and sell them. I'm sure the manufacturer and carrier needs to agree with the sale.
And honestly, Nexus devices are not your "everyday devices." The demand for them compared to iPhones or even Galaxy S2 devices are not as high.

zephiK said:
Where is the source that AT&T wants to "lock" down their device?
And that doesn't sound too logical to buy phones from a company and put it on their company. If T-Mobile was able to do that then they could just buy a bunch of iPhones and sell them. I'm sure the manufacturer and carrier needs to agree with the sale.
And honestly, Nexus devices are not your "everyday devices." The demand for them compared to iPhones or even Galaxy S2 devices are not as high.
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The AT&T thing is a rumor based on a new Nexus that went through the FCC (it was a while back) that had AT&T bands only, didn't have one of the AWS bands for TMO or something.
Also iPhone's aren't the same thing, because they're hobbled on that network, whereas a Nexus works in its full capacity. The people who use an iPhone there are masochist who love EDGE speed

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The AT&T thing is a rumor based on a new Nexus that went through the FCC (it was a while back) that had AT&T bands only, didn't have one of the AWS bands for TMO or something.
Also iPhone's aren't the same thing, because they're hobbled on that network, whereas a Nexus works in its full capacity. The people who use an iPhone there are masochist who love EDGE speed
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That's kind of silly if AT&T is trying to alter the Galaxy Nexus because the phone itself is "pentaband" wouldn't it be more expensive for AT&T to change the phone from pentaband to only their network? Weird.
iPhones are definitely hobbled but MANY MANY people still buy them off contract and unlock themselves to use it on T-Mobile's EDGE network. As much as I hate EDGE, people still do this rather than use Android devices. I honestly don't know why they would do this except to save money on their plan but it's not worth paying for a internet plan and being stuck with using EDGE.

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That's kind of silly if AT&T is trying to alter the Galaxy Nexus because the phone itself is "pentaband" wouldn't it be more expensive for AT&T to change the phone from pentaband to only their network? Weird.
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AT&T would want their own model with GSM and LTE anyways.
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Is there some legal reason that t-mobile couldn't just bulk buy some off samsung and put it on their network?
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There obviously has to be an agreement between T-Mobile and Samsung to properly set up supply chains and get everything working. T-Mobile can't just buy millions of these wholesale, put a T-Mobile logo on them and start selling them in-store. Its not that easy to launch a carrier device.

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That's kind of silly if AT&T is trying to alter the Galaxy Nexus because the phone itself is "pentaband" wouldn't it be more expensive for AT&T to change the phone from pentaband to only their network? Weird.
iPhones are definitely hobbled but MANY MANY people still buy them off contract and unlock themselves to use it on T-Mobile's EDGE network. As much as I hate EDGE, people still do this rather than use Android devices. I honestly don't know why they would do this except to save money on their plan but it's not worth paying for a internet plan and being stuck with using EDGE.
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It's not silly if you want to be a **** and jail everyone into your own Network so you make more $$, also AT&T will probably want LTE (though I don't think the FCC submission had one) on top of the HSPA radio.
Also like I said, people who switch with an iPhone KNOW what they're doing, once you open the flood gates and announce you're offering something - ton of people who don't really understand the issue will buy it and get pissed off.
Besides I doubt Apple would allow Tmo to sell it for that very reason - they don't want to be blamed for the 2G speed.

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It's not silly if you want to be a **** and jail everyone into your own Network so you make more $$.
Also like I said, people who switch with an iPhone KNOW what they're doing, once you open the flood gates and announce you're offering something - ton of people who don't really understand the issue will buy it and get pissed off.
Besides I doubt Apple would allow Tmo to sell it for that very reason - they don't want to be blamed for the 2G speed.
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Well obviously Apple wouldn't sell an EDGE only device directly through T-mo, but Apple does sell the iPhone 4 and 4S unlocked directly online. You can buy it and put a T-Mo SIM in it all you want.
People save a ton of money by going to T-Mo with their iPhone. They're willing to live with EDGE especially if they're on WiFi most of the time and don't care if they necessarily have 3G. EDGE still gets the job done unless you're doing lots of web browsing. Its not like you don't have data.

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Hm. If AT&T wants their GSM/LTE version then they might be adopting the same technology that the LG Spectrum has where it can use GSM and LTE (as announced by Verizon)
@wonshikee: Most likely. But it's all good because I don't want more consumption on the TMo network by iPhone users
@martonikaj: yeah pretty much do the SIM thing but iphone uses microSIM so thats the only thing you have to do which I believe you can just use a knife and cut it to be a microsim (or something like that)

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AT&T would want their own model with GSM and LTE anyways.
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There obviously has to be an agreement between T-Mobile and Samsung to properly set up supply chains and get everything working. T-Mobile can't just buy millions of these wholesale, put a T-Mobile logo on them and start selling them in-store. Its not that easy to launch a carrier device.
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Yeah I'm sure that's the reason, but it just begs to question, why?
I mean is there really some legal mumbo jumbo that says you can't buy the Nexus and resell it as part of your own service?
It's one thing - when the OEM has to specifically build a phone for the carrier, but another when it will work perfect fine. That's why I raise the issue.
I would assume the main reason is that, Samsung would be inclined to give a bigger discount with a formal contract agreement - which then allows Samsung to handle the supply chain aspect to provide the goods on their own terms. Plus they probably sold their soul to VZ for the current period saying we won't let any other carrier use it officially.

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Hm. If AT&T wants their GSM/LTE version then they might be adopting the same technology that the LG Spectrum has where it can use GSM and LTE (as announced by Verizon)
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No... They'll just use the technology they're already using on all other LTE phones on AT&T, like the Skyrocket, Vivid, and half a dozen other phones launched at CES. GSM/LTE chips already exist. They don't need anything new.
The Verizon phones with new chips have CDMA/LTE for Verizon US, then GSM for world roaming. That's a new feature, and does not apply to AT&T whatsoever.
@martonikaj: yeah pretty much do the SIM thing but iphone uses microSIM so thats the only thing you have to do which I believe you can just use a knife and cut it to be a microsim (or something like that)
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There are SIM cutters all over the internet. Its easy. Cutting a Mini SIM to a Micro (or putting a Micro in a Mini adapter) is the least of your problems.

wonshikee said:
Yeah I'm sure that's the reason, but it just begs to question, why?
I mean is there really some legal mumbo jumbo that says you can't buy the Nexus and resell it as part of your own service?
It's one thing - when the OEM has to specifically build a phone for the carrier, but another when it will work perfect fine. That's why I raise the issue.
I would assume the main reason is that, Samsung would be inclined to give a bigger discount with a formal contract agreement - which then allows Samsung to handle the supply chain aspect to provide the goods on their own terms. Plus they probably sold their soul to VZ for the current period saying we won't let any other carrier use it.
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It is probably some "legal jumbo" and interests of the customer. If the device isn't officially supported by the manufacturer to sell to that carrier in bulk, then they can't fulfill the warranty as it's a "grey market."
I'm definitely not a lawyer but this would be a problem for the carrier if customers aren't able to get their warranty covered by Samsung and have to go through T-Mobile directly or something.
@martonikaj: Yeah I know it's easy to do. Was just correcting you a little bit there because a sim card isn't a microSIM.

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I mean is there really some legal mumbo jumbo that says you can't buy the Nexus and resell it as part of your own service?
It's one thing - when the OEM has to specifically build a phone for the carrier, but another when it will work perfect fine. That's why I raise the issue.
I would assume the main reason is that, Samsung would be inclined to give a bigger discount with a formal contract agreement - which then allows Samsung to handle the supply chain aspect to provide the goods on their own terms. Plus they probably sold their soul to VZ for the current period saying we won't let any other carrier use it officially.
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Verizon has an exclusive on carriers selling the Galaxy Nexus in the US.
T-Mo won't make nearly as much money if they were literally buying them and reselling. They need a contractual obligation with Samsung to produce phones and sell at a certain price.
Think about everything that goes into a phone launch. They need to educate sales and support staff, start a marketing campaign, setup their systems, start the supply chain management, etc. etc. etc.. They can't do all of this, and start selling phones then have Samsung run out or not fulfill orders because to Sammy, T-Mo is just another random buyer. T-Mo could be buying millions of phones over the life of its sale. Again, it REALLY isn't as easy as you think.
Some retailer or local shop could buy and resell, but T-Mobile USA can't do that.
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@martonikaj: Yeah I know it's easy to do. Was just correcting you a little bit there because a sim card isn't a microSIM.
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.... anyone spending $650+ on an unlocked iPhone (or ETF-ing, jailbreaking + unlocking) and moving it to T-Mobile should be smart enough to know how to cut cardboard. Like I said, Mini vs Micro SIM isn't even a problem. They are literally the exact same except the size of the cardboard around it.

Not to bump a stupidly old thread, but any news lately that I may have missed?
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Verizon cutting off Unlimited Data plans.

I know this doesn't directly relate to the Galaxy Nexus, but personally this is the only reason I have my Nexus on Verizon. So if you are in the same boat as me give this a read:
http://cnet.co/Jel0xa

Had to happen eventually.

This. Is why I told my friends to switch to the double data promo a couple months ago. I am Jack's total lack of surprise.

I would just like to take this moment to say this to all the people who said I was wrong about this ever happening:
IN YO' FACE!

Well I guess we need to wait for the exact info but there is some speculation that even someone on your family account changing phones could cause anyone on the same account to lose unlimited. My wife just recently downgraded from Android to iPhone (has had 2 HTC phones which both would not shut off the screen when she had it next to her face and she doesn't like the screen size of the LTE phones) who I guess now has a 3G unlimited plan down from a 4G plan she had when she was using my old Thunderbolt. While she doesn't use that much data and being forced into a tiered plan when she upgrades in 2 years won't be a big deal but I want to keep my unlimited even if it means buying phones off contract. The only thing that might make it ok is the $60 I pay now between both phones for data can be used for like a 10 or 20 gig bucket.

I will be pissed if they don't offer us AT LEAST the double data promo.

Character Zero said:
Well I guess we need to wait for the exact info but there is some speculation that even someone on your family account changing phones could cause anyone on the same account to lose unlimited. My wife just recently downgraded from Android to iPhone (has had 2 HTC phones which both would not shut off the screen when she had it next to her face and she doesn't like the screen size of the LTE phones) who I guess now has a 3G unlimited plan down from a 4G plan she had when she was using my old Thunderbolt. While she doesn't use that much data and being forced into a tiered plan when she upgrades in 2 years won't be a big deal but I want to keep my unlimited even if it means buying phones off contract. The only thing that might make it ok is the $60 I pay now between both phones for data can be used for like a 10 or 20 gig bucket.
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I think thats exactly the opposite of how its going to work, if you have a contract with them, you can make them honor it. If you do not have a contract with them, your screwed. Right now I am paying $50 for 10GB, if the "data share" thing comes through, I imagine they would charge you $10/each additional phone on your plan, you would be looking at around $60/10GB IF they are still offering the double data! That's a BIG if, you better call them right now. Normally $50 gets you 5GB.

It is what it is, these wireless companies are all the same. Personally I'm tired of the misinformation, online petitions and broken promises. When my contract is up and they try to move me or my 3G wife to another plan I'll let my wallet do the talking and go to the company that offers the best overall value.
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lrs421 said:
It is what it is, these wireless companies are all the same. Personally I'm tired of the misinformation, online petitions and broken promises. When my contract is up and they try to move me or my 3G wife to another plan I'll let my wallet do the talking and go to the company that offers the best overall value.
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The problem for me is VZW is the only carrier to actually have reception in my area, and everybody knows it, so they can charge whatever they want. I have a choice of paying VZW a super premium and always being able to use the device I am paying for, or paying a competitor and not having service.

adrynalyne said:
I would just like to take this moment to say this to all the people who said I was wrong about this ever happening:
IN YO' FACE!
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People were in denial if they thought they'd never have to get rid of unlimited on VZW.

martonikaj said:
People were in denial if they thought they'd never have to get rid of unlimited on VZW.
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Denial isn't just a river in Egypt.

martonikaj said:
People were in denial if they thought they'd never have to get rid of unlimited on VZW.
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I'm just shocked they won't let us use it through the rest of our contract. Giving people only a few months using it and making them switch mid contract is beyond awful.

Looking for advice
So now I need some advice. According to these reports, specifically on techcrunch, "Shammo makes it sound like only customers who upgrade after the change takes place will have to pick a new data plan (for better or worse), and with any luck they’ll leave the lucky souls who have already locked their old data plans alone for now."
I bought a Gnex on verizon a few weeks after it came out. I'm currently on a family plan and I'm the only one who has a smartphone on the plan (3 total phones, mine's one of the "added" lines). Currently I'm on a "month to month" I guess is what it's called. My particular line's contract expired at the beginning of this month and I am currently just paying my same charges with unlimited data, but not bound into the 2 year agreement as far as I'm aware.
What I want to know is how to handle it from here on out, if there's a way to even handle it well. I would like to renew my contract and be able to keep my grandfathered unlimited data through this garbage, which means I need to act immediately before they put this crap into effect, assuming it won't go retro active. So with that being said, can I just simply call and get my contract renewed for 2 years and that be that? Is there even a way to do that? I just don't want to blow whatever extra time I have on my grandfathered unlimited data.
I realize that all the information isn't there, but how would you guys handle this if you were in my position? I don't want to screw myself, I use 8-12 gb of data a month so this is sort of important.

TeeRom said:
I'm just shocked they won't let us use it through the rest of our contract. Giving people only a few months using it and making them switch mid contract is beyond awful.
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Welcome to corporate greed in America. Where carriers love to rip you off and lock you down for two years.
Of course this was bound to happen.

chlehqls said:
Welcome to corporate greed in America. Where carriers love to rip you off and lock you down for two years.
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Maybe we should move to Canada, where the greed is much less.
Oh wait, they have 3 year contracts

lblacklol said:
So now I need some advice. According to these reports, specifically on techcrunch, "Shammo makes it sound like only customers who upgrade after the change takes place will have to pick a new data plan (for better or worse), and with any luck they’ll leave the lucky souls who have already locked their old data plans alone for now."
I bought a Gnex on verizon a few weeks after it came out. I'm currently on a family plan and I'm the only one who has a smartphone on the plan (3 total phones, mine's one of the "added" lines). Currently I'm on a "month to month" I guess is what it's called. My particular line's contract expired at the beginning of this month and I am currently just paying my same charges with unlimited data, but not bound into the 2 year agreement as far as I'm aware.
What I want to know is how to handle it from here on out, if there's a way to even handle it well. I would like to renew my contract and be able to keep my grandfathered unlimited data through this garbage, which means I need to act immediately before they put this crap into effect, assuming it won't go retro active. So with that being said, can I just simply call and get my contract renewed for 2 years and that be that? Is there even a way to do that? I just don't want to blow whatever extra time I have on my grandfathered unlimited data.
I realize that all the information isn't there, but how would you guys handle this if you were in my position? I don't want to screw myself, I use 8-12 gb of data a month so this is sort of important.
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Reading through all these sites and Shamu or shammon quotes sounds like people with 3g upgrading to 4g phones will be forced into the shared data plans. But hell either way were all screwed.
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Boycott data plans is the only solution to change.
...of the people, by the people, for the people...

@rbiter said:
Boycott data plans is the only solution to change.
...of the people, by the people, for the people...
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Jitterbug, HERE I COME!

switching to tmobile $30/mo prepaid plan and using voip? perhaps.
we'll see how all this stuff turns out. if you didnt see this was coming, you were blind.
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adrynalyne said:
Jitterbug, HERE I COME!
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i always knew you were special and needed help with the buttons on your phone!

chlehqls said:
Welcome to corporate greed in America. Where carriers love to rip you off and lock you down for two years.
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Don't give them your money then?

[Q] New Galaxy Nexus...

Guys, I am new to XDA and new to Android. I was a blinded iPhone follower until now. I believe that I can do more with an Android phone than my iPhone. I don't think that I will try another iPhone. I thing its time to try something else. Of all the phones out there the one that I like the most is the Galaxy Nexus. I have heard that it is the most customizable phone out there. In the other hand I see all this other new phones that can do all kind of crazy new things that I believe the Nexus will not be able to perform the same way being an older phone.
Is there a NEW Galaxy Nexus coming out soon? Are there any rumors or speculations?

DonQTX said:
Is there a NEW Galaxy Nexus coming out soon? Are there any rumors or speculations?
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Nothing coherent yet. There may be up to 5 new Nexii, there might not be. LG, Sony, HTC might be making the new one; they might not be. However, if google keep to their rough schedule it should be out before the end of the year.

Im sure there is a new one or "ones" coming out its just the "when" it will happen. And i personally hope soon! And if they keep the price down and let the phone be unlocked like the Google Play GNEX is it will sell butloads

No one knows when Google will release another Nexus.

But its also not usually all secretive and we don't line up for hours to buy the new nexus
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Rooster85 said:
But its also not usually all secretive and we don't line up for hours to buy the new nexus
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Well considering it'll be for sale in the Google Play Store, it's kinda hard to line up for lol.

only google and god now when it will be. im also waiting for the next nexus

Prepaid
martonikaj said:
Well considering it'll be for sale in the Google Play Store, it's kinda hard to line up for lol.
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Thanks for the info on PREPAID...
I just read the prepaid link in your message and I liked what I read.
Is it 100% accurate?
I am thinking on going with T-mobile and get the $30 web offer. 100 minutes for me its a lot. I hate phones and I hate talking over the phone.
I am paying $150 a month for a unlimited iPhone plan with ATT contract. I like that it is unlimited but if I don't use it!!!!!
Thanks again.
DonQ:good:

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I am thinking on going with T-mobile and get the $30 web offer. 100 minutes for me its a lot. I hate phones and I hate talking over the phone.
I am paying $150 a month for a unlimited iPhone plan with ATT contract. I like that it is unlimited but if I don't use it!!!!!
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$150 a month? That's a lot even by crazy standards. iPhone doesn't even have LTE.
Only problem is that iPhone, like most phones, I believe, doesn't support the t-mobile 1700 band. Which means no HSPA+ data; you'd be limited to EDGE. They are in the process of changing to the 1900 band, but distribution is limited. Straight Talk is another prepaid option that allows you to be carried by AT&T for $45; see that thread. Also, some of the other guys in that thread were pushing Solavei, which will supposedly be similar. I have no real idea about those two, however, because I too use the $30 t-mobile plan with my penta-band Nexus.

Nexus
Last year we started seeing rumors pop up around july with an actual leaked image, this year we haven't seen anything yet.

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$150 a month? That's a lot even by crazy standards. iPhone doesn't even have LTE.
Only problem is that iPhone, like most phones, I believe, doesn't support the t-mobile 1700 band. Which means no HSPA+ data; you'd be limited to EDGE. They are in the process of changing to the 1900 band, but distribution is limited. Straight Talk is another prepaid option that allows you to be carried by AT&T for $45; see that thread. Also, some of the other guys in that thread were pushing Solavei, which will supposedly be similar. I have no real idea about those two, however, because I too use the $30 t-mobile plan with my penta-band Nexus.
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I'm about to drop my VZW contract and move to the $30 t-mobile plan. I can't wait!