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No more unlimited data for AT&T!!

Okay, for those of you who haven't fired up your favorite tech-news site yet, AT&T announced that they are doing away with their $30/month unlimited data plan. Instead, we are going to have to pay $25/month for 2GB..... What the %^[email protected]?????? On average, do we consume more than 2GB/month of data on our Rhodiums? Between the browsing, streaming, and navigation programs I use, I'm not sure what my total data uses are. Please, someone calm me down and tell me that I'm going to be okay. ...yeah, but seriously, dang.........this sucks.......
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I called AT&T customer support and found out that they are not forcing existing customers off unlimited. You have until June, 7th to get the unlimited plan, after that it is gone forever! Like I said, if you have it now, you're still good.

I saw that this morning too, it's the final straw. When they go to change it I will tell them I've a Customer since 1995 (SWB Wireless) , and I will be changing carriers. I've been unhappy since the merger everything has gone down hill. Also I will inform them since they are violating the contract I signed up for, they shouldn't be charging a breach of contract fee, but even at that, if they do I will gladly pay the $250 and tell them to shove it up their USB port !

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I read the release. This is only for new customers and current customer will not be forced to move to their new plans. I tried an iPhone earlier this year. If this new plan had been in place, AT&T wouldn't have even been a consideration for me.

Are you kidding me? Not only they are charging me twice now as I used to pay for the same internet because I have a "smart" phone but now they want to kill us with this ?
Time to look for a new carrier....

I have Unlimted Text & Internet for dumbphone on my Fuze (and now my Tmobile TP2) for 30/month (with 5GB cap). My tilt 2 is in the mail. Hopefully when I switch to my tilt 2 they wont add a data plan to my account...

As stated above this change ONLY applies to NEW contracts....if your currently on the unlimited data plan then this will NOT affect you I only hope they're going to use this time that they're trying to buy to improve their data speed and coverage.
My personal opnion is the problems they're having is from all the iphone and ipad sheeple choking down the network with the gazillions of stupid useless apps they're downloading with no clue as to what they do other than "billybob down the street said this is a good ap to have" meanwhile it's got their phone runing as a proxy server for billybob to exploit.

shaolin95 said:
Are you kidding me? Not only they are charging me twice now as I used to pay for the same internet because I have a "smart" phone but now they want to kill us with this ?
Time to look for a new carrier....
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I know, did the same when I switch from my tilt to the tilt2. Made me upgrade from old $15 unlimited data plan because "All new phone have to go to this." And now this? WT*?! I definitely will pay the money and go t-mobile and get the hd2 anyway else or verizon or sumthg.

I like how they keep screwing the customer and saying it's for the customer's benefit. AT&T is the new Verizon. Looks like it's time to start considering Sprint and T-Mobile now. AT&T is clearly down a path to screw customers while not improving service. They will continue to keep pulling these stunts until it's made very public and they are forced to get defensive about what they are doing.
f'ing bastards.

McHale said:
I like how they keep screwing the customer and saying it's for the customer's benefit. AT&T is the new Verizon. Looks like it's time to start considering Sprint and T-Mobile now. AT&T is clearly down a path to screw customers while not improving service. They will continue to keep pulling these stunts until it's made very public and they are forced to get defensive about what they are doing.
f'ing bastards.
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So I just read that if you still have the plan you are cool at least until you need to upgrade again, is that right?

I've been with them about 10 yrs now, and it seems that way. Alot less and charge you more while only worry bout Apple.

The rep that I spoke with on the phone said that they were doing this to satisfy the customers that did not want to pay the $30/month requirement for smartphones. They will have two rates $25/month for 2GB and $15/month for 220MB. This way, one could get a new phone and just pay the $15/month to have a nice, new smartphone. That's my theory anyway.

shaolin95 said:
So I just read that if you still have the plan you are cool at least until you need to upgrade again, is that right?
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If you read all of the info, and read AT&T's announcment it says that even at RENEWAL AND UPGRADE old users will be able to keep the unlimited. Also if you look at your account online, it will give you a chart for all of your internet usage since November 2009. You can see how much you use. Many will decide that unlimited is a waste and will "downgrade" to the 2 GB plan and save $5. Heck my wife loves the smart phone, but rarely uses any of the data features except a few emails... now she can get the $15 plan and save quite a bit each month.
Look at your usage, I would bet that you use much, much less than you think you do.
They also have a usage estimator. It is extremely difficult to hit 2 GB unless you a) stream (lots) of music or b) stream video. Normal net surfing and the occasional app download and tons of email fit very comfortably under the cap.
For me, I will be keeping my unlimited plan, but the wifes phone is definitely getting downgraded to the cheaper plan. Thank you AT&T.

boufa said:
If you read all of the info, and read AT&T's announcment it says that even at RENEWAL AND UPGRADE old users will be able to keep the unlimited. Also if you look at your account online, it will give you a chart for all of your internet usage since November 2009. You can see how much you use. Many will decide that unlimited is a waste and will "downgrade" to the 2 GB plan and save $5. Heck my wife loves the smart phone, but rarely uses any of the data features except a few emails... now she can get the $15 plan and save quite a bit each month.
Look at your usage, I would bet that you use much, much less than you think you do.
They also have a usage estimator. It is extremely difficult to hit 2 GB unless you a) stream (lots) of music or b) stream video. Normal net surfing and the occasional app download and tons of email fit very comfortably under the cap.
For me, I will be keeping my unlimited plan, but the wifes phone is definitely getting downgraded to the cheaper plan. Thank you AT&T.
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I stream video A LOT....going to work and coming back home I am normally watching some youtube old comedies like Unhappily ever after , etc so I may not be going with their lower rate plan.

dressanderc said:
The rep that I spoke with on the phone said that they were doing this to satisfy the customers that did not want to pay the $30/month requirement for smartphones. They will have two rates $25/month for 2GB and $15/month for 220MB. This way, one could get a new phone and just pay the $15/month to have a nice, new smartphone. That's my theory anyway.
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which is a bull**** answer because if that were the case, they'd keep the unlimited option and add these to their portfolio.
It has been confirmed that you can keep your unlimited plan but that's until you upgrade your phone or your minute plan. This has always been the case.
F'n greedy ignorant bastards.
-Mc

boufa said:
If you read all of the info, and read AT&T's announcment it says that even at RENEWAL AND UPGRADE old users will be able to keep the unlimited.
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I just renewed my family's 2-year contracts with unlimited data on 3 devices.
From the quote above, after my two year contacts expire, I can do an equipment upgrade and still keep my unlimited data plans. Is that correct?
By the time my 2-year contracts expires, I'm sure there will be alot of changes and other options to consider. Other carriers may be offering iPhones by then (for my wife and son), and I really don't like the direction that Windows Moble is going right now.
For me, a different carrier and a different device may be in order at the end of my current contract.
boufa said:
For me, I will be keeping my unlimited plan, but the wifes phone is definitely getting downgraded to the cheaper plan. Thank you AT&T.
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I thought about this a well. I checked my family's data usage.
My son uses a over a gigabyte of data a month on his iPhone.
I come in at just under a gigabyte on my Tilt2, but only because I'm more diligent about using WiFi or other data connections instead of 3G whenever possible.
My wife, on the other hand, averages about 150 to 200Kilobytes per month on her iPhone... which is the threshold for the new basic data plan.
So, will I be switch her to the cheaper plan? Probably not, considering that she has only had her iPhone for a couple of months. Chances are her data usage will only grow as she discovers better and more efficient ways to use her phone.

dressanderc said:
The rep that I spoke with on the phone said that they were doing this to satisfy the customers that did not want to pay the $30/month requirement for smartphones. They will have two rates $25/month for 2GB and $15/month for 220MB. This way, one could get a new phone and just pay the $15/month to have a nice, new smartphone. That's my theory anyway.
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No, they are doing it because they don't have enough network capacity for all the smartphones they have sold. They are trying to keep people from using the bandwidth by making it expensive.
AT&T has been in a lot of hot water because their service has suffered due to their being the only network that offers the IPhone. From what I read, San Francisco and New York are having major problems with bandwidth.

Verizon started charging 9.95 a month for each smart phone. for a limited amount of data. They only have 4 phones that don't get charged that. We switched from Verizon because it would have cost me an extra 30 a month for my 3 kids who dont even go on the internet to have a decent phone to text. Maybe they are all going this route

if they're trying to save bandwidth, then maybe forcing data plans on people wasn't such a smart idea.
Those idiots can't have it both ways as hard as they lie... I mean TRY.
F'n AT&T morons.

McHale said:
I like how they keep screwing the customer and saying it's for the customer's benefit. AT&T is the new Verizon. Looks like it's time to start considering Sprint and T-Mobile now. AT&T is clearly down a path to screw customers while not improving service. They will continue to keep pulling these stunts until it's made very public and they are forced to get defensive about what they are doing.
f'ing bastards.
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McHale said:
which is a bull**** answer because if that were the case, they'd keep the unlimited option and add these to their portfolio.
It has been confirmed that you can keep your unlimited plan but that's until you upgrade your phone or your minute plan. This has always been the case.
F'n greedy ignorant bastards.
-Mc
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McHale said:
if they're trying to save bandwidth, then maybe forcing data plans on people wasn't such a smart idea.
hose idiots can't have it both ways as hard as they lie... I mean TRY.
F'n AT&T morons.
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I don't believe that McHale likes AT&T that much

Does this mean I can get out of my 2yr contract w/o any ETF?!
I feel like I could argue with AT&T to get out of it w/o any fees...

Sign the Petition! Stop Verizon from killing unlimited data plans for existing subscr

Verizon will be cutting of all their customers from having Unlimited Data Plans, even if you were grandfathered in.
Verizon has gotten greedy!
Shame on you Shammo! (Fran Shammo Verizon's CFO)
We need to take action! We've done it before we can do it again.
Here is the score:
Won
Verizon Imposes $2 Credit Card processing fee. 50,000 people signed petition on change.org Verizon nixed that plan.
Lost
Verizon Imposes $30 "upgrade fee" for upgrading to a new phone
Verizon has stuck with that plan.
Score Thus far 1:1
Next line up,
Verizon will cut off all existing unlimited data customers from their Unlimited Data plans.
Lets make this a win! Sign the petition and share with everyone you know! Repost this everywhere! Let's get the word out!
Read the Article here: http://news.cnet.com/8301-1035_3-57...r-existing-subscribers/?tag=postrtcol;mostPop
Sign Petition here! http://www.change.org/petitions/sto...unlimited-data-plans-for-existing-subscribers

Signed!

I'll be signing this, everyone should sign.
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Signed.
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What is actually wrong with them doing this? You sign a contract for two years for unlimited data yea. Then after the two years are up they are not contractually obliged to let you keep it. They have so far as a gesture of good will. Obviously they are being greedy but they aren't doing anything wrong, unless they stop you having unlimited mid contract. If that's the case you would be able to cancel as they have not lived up to there end.

Signed.
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I'm actually kinda excited to try sprint. I don't use much data I'm on wifi a lot but its crazy to pay $30 a month for internet on a little phone when I pay less for cable internet.
If it limited it better be cheaper if not I'll get sprint or maybe att

Since this breach of contract I should be able to cancel my verizon subscriptions without any penalties. Right????

wedge40 said:
Since this breach of contract I should be able to cancel my verizon subscriptions without any penalties. Right????
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Since what breach of contract? A CFO saying stuff in an article about the future of VZW data plans is perfectly legally.
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Signing the petition with your wallets at another carrier will do more harm than letting vzw know you don't like their business model. But the other carriers business models are the same. The big dent is made by dropping data on your service and letting sales reps and tech support know you won't get data back until the data portion of the business model changes.
...of the people, by the people, for the people...

wedge40 said:
Since this breach of contract I should be able to cancel my verizon subscriptions without any penalties. Right????
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It isn't a breach of contract, because right now it is just talk. The CFO is hardly a lawyer, so who knows what this shapes up as.
Then there is this little thing that data is a feature, not a contract plan. Its in writing that features are subject to change. You can change data plans any time and not affect your contract, but you cannot change voice plans because you are contractually obligated.
So it is a grey area, but I would say one of two things happens.
1. They wait until your contract is expired. You won't be able to activate any new phone without changing your data plan. This is the most likely course of action.
2. They let you opt-out without paying an ETF. I am not even sure they are required to do this.

Haha at signing the petition. Unlimited data is going away on all carriers. Verizon sees how the other carriers are raking in the profits from tiered data plans.

I wouldn't be that excited......sprint data speeds are HORRID! I'm lucky to break the 500k mark ANYWHERE in California. I've read in many places that the network is just as bad or worse in the rest of the country.

Well it had to come to an end at some point and time. Its sad our mobile internet cost as much or sometimes more than home internet. Tier plans are the wave of what carriers want you go over you pay more. Cash cow. Starbucks makes a killing off coffee sales but no one is signing a petition. I hate how they are acting but it is a free market system. If they chose to end something due to not making enough. As someone else said let your wallet do the talking. I went from att to T-Mobile and have not looked back. Cheaper plans by about 30 dollars a month adds up. That's revenue that the other guy is not getting anymore.
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royale192 said:
Well it had to come to an end at some point and time. Its sad our mobile internet cost as much or sometimes more than home internet. Tier plans are the wave of what carriers want you go over you pay more. Cash cow. Starbucks makes a killing off coffee sales but no one is signing a petition. I hate how they are acting but it is a free market system. If they chose to end something due to not making enough. As someone else said let your wallet do the talking. I went from att to T-Mobile and have not looked back. Cheaper plans by about 30 dollars a month adds up. That's revenue that the other guy is not getting anymore.
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Starbucks coffee isn't required to use your smartphone Also if you don't like Starbuck's coffee, there is always Folgers.
Verizon users are rightfully upset because they are being told they will pay the same, and get less with no choice of an alternative.
If Starbucks was the only drinkable coffee in town, and they told you they are going to charge venti prices for a tablespoon of coffee while being forced to pay for the tablespoon monthly...I would say that there would be a petition, along with some rioting
This petition is futile, but I understand why it is happening.

Carriers got you hooked on the good stuff for a good price. Now you get samples for full price. Either quit your addiction,find another bigtime supplier or the middle of the road solution, find a local supplier that meets your needs for the right price.
I am having to deal with this myself. The first step to quitting an addiction is admitting you have one. Lol. Petitioning your dealer that prices are too high just lets them know they got you hooked.
...of the people, by the people, for the people...

This won't work. Unlimited data may come back in the future when radios need less and less bandwidth to perform.
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When my contract is up i'm switching to T-Mobile only because their spokesperson is hotter than Verizon's can you hear me now guy.

miketoasty said:
When my contract is up i'm switching to T-Mobile only because their spokesperson is hotter than Verizon's can you hear me now guy.
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he got fired. he's not their spokesperson
http://www.mobiledia.com/news/86973.html

None of the wireless providers are getting rich. VZ's earnings grow at about 4% which is slightly above inflation. Some carriers are losing there a$$ by subsidizing excessively priced smartphones. Over time a few mergers will leave about 3 or so majors.

[Q] Possible "Unlimited" Data Coming to Verizon?

Hey guys,
First off I'd like to just recognize the XDA forums and its members for all of your help over the past few years as I've been rooting, unlocking, and troubleshooting my android devices. I started with the T-Mobile Dash (HTC Excalibur), T-Mobile MyTouch 3G, Sprint HTC Hero, Sprint Galaxy Tab (Original 7-inch), and now happily using my unlocked and rooted Verizon Galaxy Nexus running AOKP M5.
Anyway, i recently was on the phone with Verizon to bump up my data plan to the 10GB / month deal for $50. We ended up bullshitting a bit about how old unlimited plans are going away with upgrades, and how people want true, unthrottled, unlimited data. Now I don't know how much truth there is in this, or if she was maybe just trying to get my hopes up, but she mentioned that in the near future verizon is going to launch a truly unlimited family data plan.
Has anyone else heard of this? Now this was only a tier 1 customer service representative, and I know I've heard a lot of people mention how the tier one people are not given any information about upcoming promotions like this. But it makes me think that maybe if there is any truth to this, other customer service members must know of it too, and possibly have told other curstomers.
So i was wondering if anyone other than me has heard anything? And if Verizon was to release an "Unlimited" data plan (family or per device), do you think it would end up being throttled?

If they were going to release an unlimited plan why would they bother removing the current ones?

I think its full of crap... Verizon is trying to get ppl to leave the Unlimited plans just like AT&T... recently Verizon said announced that ppl on unlimited were going to be forced out of it. But with so many petitions going around Verizon decided "fine u can keep your unlimited data plans but when it comes to upgrades, you'd be forced to pay the phone at retail price" ..... I personally never get upgrades from carriers... I'm on AT&T and I haven't upgraded my line in about 4 years. Bought the Nexus One .. went for the Nexus S ... and Now The Galaxy Nexus... but if what the lady says is true then my guess is that Verizon doesn't have enough ppl on the 4G network soooo perhaps this Works to there advantage. And of course there will always be a Throttle. =P
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joshnichols189 said:
If they were going to release an unlimited plan why would they bother removing the current ones?
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Because it's a grandfathered plan that CDMA customers got for a relatively inexpensive monthly fee. And I don't believe they are doing away with the plan for CDMA-only customers, as that "problem" should automaticaly take care of itself in just a few generations of phones. I've always thought that it was just a matter of time before they stoped offering their loyal long-time customers unlimited LTE service for the same low monthly rate they've always paid. Othewise tens of thousands of people would be using it for their home internet service as the LTE network grows. I'm sure many folks already are.
I'm only speculating, but the "Unlimitied Family Data" concept does sound feasible. But I'll bet it will cost more than twice what the grandfathered customers are now paying for it. Perhaps significantly more.

joshnichols189 said:
If they were going to release an unlimited plan why would they bother removing the current ones?
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Well, i know that currently i believe there are only per device unlimited plans. What I've heard is that those plans will be switched to a tiered data plan if you are still on 3G and upgrade to a 4G LTE device.
What the Verizon lady was saying is that they will bring back unlimited as a Family Plan add-on, so that you can pay, say $100 (total guess), and get truely unlimited data on every device on your plan.
For me, this would be great, because everyone on my plan uses at the very least 4GB of data a month. This adds up to be about $150 in data plans across all the devices. If we could consolidate our data plans to one family plan wide "plan" then we could save alot of money, and use as much data!
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I think its full of crap... Verizon is trying to get ppl to leave the Unlimited plans just like AT&T... recently Verizon said announced that ppl on unlimited were going to be forced out of it. But with so many petitions going around Verizon decided "fine u can keep your unlimited data plans but when it comes to upgrades, you'd be forced to pay the phone at retail price" ..... I personally never get upgrades from carriers... I'm on AT&T and I haven't upgraded my line in about 4 years. Bought the Nexus One .. went for the Nexus S ... and Now The Galaxy Nexus... but if what the lady says is true then my guess is that Verizon doesn't have enough ppl on the 4G network soooo perhaps this Works to there advantage. And of course there will always be a Throttle. =P
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I know it probably wont happen due to the proprietary 4G LTE technology, but it would be great to see Google offer unlocked 4G LTE nexus devices directly (on the play market). I would LOVE to pay google directly for their device at a slightly higher price, and not have to worry about voiding warranty or contract by modding my phone. Plus id love to get the actual google back cover for my GNEX, instead of that ugly Verizon stamped one...
How many years must i wait for truely unlimited data so i can use my device and the internet the way it was meant to be used!?!?

Robin M said:
Othewise tens of thousands of people would be using it for their home internet service as the LTE network grows.
I'm only speculating, but the "Unlimitied Family Data" concept does sound feasible. But I'll bet it will cost more than twice what the grandfathered customers are now paying for it. Maybe significantly more.
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That is what i currently do, I use my GNEX as a Wifi access point to get my laptop online. I ditched comcast when i switched to verizon and got 4G LTE a month ago. I am no longer attached to my wall
The current unlimited 3g customers only pay like $15, correct??

Tomyk89 said:
Well, i know that currently i believe there are only per device unlimited plans. What I've heard is that those plans will be switched to a tiered data plan if you are still on 3G and upgrade to a 4G LTE device.
What the Verizon lady was saying is that they will bring back unlimited as a Family Plan add-on, so that you can pay, say $100 (total guess), and get truely unlimited data on every device on your plan.
For me, this would be great, because everyone on my plan uses at the very least 4GB of data a month. This adds up to be about $150 in data plans across all the devices. If we could consolidate our data plans to one family plan wide "plan" then we could save alot of money, and use as much data!
I know it probably wont happen due to the proprietary 4G LTE technology, but it would be great to see Google offer unlocked 4G LTE nexus devices directly (on the play market). I would LOVE to pay google directly for their device at a slightly higher price, and not have to worry about voiding warranty or contract by modding my phone. Plus id love to get the actual google back cover for my GNEX, instead of that ugly Verizon stamped one...
How many years must i wait for truely unlimited data so i can use my device and the internet the way it was meant to be used!?!?
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I think they favor GSM devices only... soooo yeah they won't offer it in the play store
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I am 3g unlimited and pay $29.99.
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Tomyk89 said:
That is what i currently do, I use my GNEX as a Wifi access point to get my laptop online. I ditched comcast when i switched to verizon and got 4G LTE a month ago. I am no longer attached to my wall
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And this is why they're getting rid of unlimited data. We all have people like you to thank for losing unlimited data. People like you give a whole new meaning to gluttony.
It's amazing how entitled we've become as a society; this world really is going to hell.

ZeroBarrier said:
And this is why they're getting rid of unlimited data. We all have people like you to thank for losing unlimited data. People like you give a whole new meaning to gluttony.
It's amazing how entitled we've become as a society; this world really is going to hell.
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So you're saying that if you have unlimited data it's bad to use said unlimited data? Okay.
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I don't see why they'd be bringing back unlimited data when they haven't offered it to new subscribers for quite a long time now. They've clearly expressed that they want to launch family data plans, but I doubt they'd be unlimited. It goes against the direction they've (and other carriers) been pushing.

Tomyk89 said:
That is what i currently do, I use my GNEX as a Wifi access point to get my laptop online. I ditched comcast when i switched to verizon and got 4G LTE a month ago. I am no longer attached to my wall
The current unlimited 3g customers only pay like $15, correct??
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Your phone isn't a replacement for a home internet connection. Quit being a cheap asshole and get an actual home connection. You're the reason why data plans are trending the way they are.
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dpwhitty11 said:
So you're saying that if you have unlimited data it's bad to use said unlimited data? Okay.
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You must have not read your contract, which clearly states unlimited data on your phone, not unlimited data on every device you choose to connect to your phone.
I suggest taking the time to read your entire contract so you can find out everything you are doing that is clearly not covered by the agreement you signed with Verizon.

Tomyk89 said:
That is what i currently do, I use my GNEX as a Wifi access point to get my laptop online. I ditched comcast when i switched to verizon and got 4G LTE a month ago. I am no longer attached to my wall
The current unlimited 3g customers only pay like $15, correct??
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Greedy idiot.
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dpwhitty11 said:
So you're saying that if you have unlimited data it's bad to use said unlimited data? Okay.
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You have to remember that even thought you have "unlimited data", you're still sharing the same network tower as others and hogging up all the bandwidth isn't right.

dpwhitty11 said:
So you're saying that if you have unlimited data it's bad to use said unlimited data? Okay.
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It's not a replacement for home internet, it is supposed to be phone internet.
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zerobarrier said:
and this is why they're getting rid of unlimited data. We all have people like you to thank for losing unlimited data. People like you give a whole new meaning to gluttony.
It's amazing how entitled we've become as a society; this world really is going to hell.
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oh god so mad. Go home you arse.
Boom.

Hypocrites, hypocrites everywhere.
Boom.

ZeroBarrier said:
And this is why they're getting rid of unlimited data. We all have people like you to thank for losing unlimited data. People like you give a whole new meaning to gluttony.
It's amazing how entitled we've become as a society; this world really is going to hell.
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Funny, I don't recall anyone asking for your opinion on this... i thought this thread was on the possibility of unlimited data coming our way.
OMG the world will end because people like me share internet to their computer! Do you guys realize that your on a website that specializes in stuff like, hmmmmm, wifi tethers? I understand their is a whole mess of more complicated things here, but honestly.... quit being so old fashioned. times are changing more and more each day. soon only big businesses will have data from the wall and everything will be wireless.

Also, why would they give us the ability to wifi tether if they didn't want us to use our data for it?
Inb4 "that's why they charge extra for tehtering", maybe the people who do that actually paid for the official service?
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I'm an unlimited 3g user. I use wifi and Bluetooth tether, but only when I am in a place that doesn't have its own wifi or if my home wifi is acting up. Not all unlimited tetherers are bad. Besides, I pull in FAR more data streaming my music with Google Play Music.
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dpwhitty11 said:
Also, why would they give us the ability to wifi tether if they didn't want us to use our data for it?
Inb4 "that's why they charge extra for tehtering", maybe the people who do that actually paid for the official service?
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I'm an unlimited 3g user. I use wifi and Bluetooth tether, but only when I am in a place that doesn't have its own wifi or if my home wifi is acting up. Not all unlimited tetherers are bad. Besides, I pull in FAR more data streaming my music with Google Play Music.
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The extra charge just for the ability to tether is BS! Just because i dont throw $40 a month to verizon to pay for a tether, doesnt mean im stealing data. I pay for the data no matter what. So what i use that data for and what device i use that data on should be totally up to me.

[Q] Getting Rid of Account

I've had my Inc2 for 10 months, and have 2 other phones on the account.
Can anyone tell me how you go about selling off your VZW contract.

Wait 14 more months, or pay a 350$ canceling fee.... I think
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plupien79 said:
I've had my Inc2 for 10 months, and have 2 other phones on the account.
Can anyone tell me how you go about selling off your VZW contract.
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how long do you have left on each phone contract wise? are the other 2 smartphones? what was the etf on each phone?
unless you have a documented history of issues with verizon over multiple phones/lines on ur account in regards to service, they wont let you out w/ etf or until you are off contract
id do the math on ur etf and decide what to do then

We've got 2 smartphones and one dummy phone. At $210 a month it's a bit steep.
The current ETF is $625 to end the contract.
Replacement phone plan is only $90 a month.
So $120 a month would pay off that ETF pretty quickly.
I've heard about some sites that would let users trade off thier plans and phones a while ago, I just can't remember anything else.

plupien79 said:
We've got 2 smartphones and one dummy phone. At $210 a month it's a bit steep.
The current ETF is $625 to end the contract.
Replacement phone plan is only $90 a month.
So $120 a month would pay off that ETF pretty quickly.
I've heard about some sites that would let users trade off thier plans and phones a while ago, I just can't remember anything else.
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in the past sprint and tmobile have had promotions where they would give you a certain $ credit for leaving another major carrier and porting your number, but i havent heard of any recently (last 6 months anyway)

Good to hear. But I'm not in Sprint territory, and T-mobile coverage where I live is a joke.

plupien79 said:
Good to hear. But I'm not in Sprint territory, and T-mobile coverage where I live is a joke.
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switching to att then? or regional carrier

Indeed, going with a regional carrier with prepaid service. More minutes, same texting, same data.
Found Cellswapper.com That's the gist of what I was looking for.
Also Praying for Verizon to change something that gets me a get out of jail free card.

plupien79 said:
I've had my Inc2 for 10 months, and have 2 other phones on the account.
Can anyone tell me how you go about selling off your VZW contract.
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We certainly don't want you leave us. Is there anything we can do to change your mind about canceling the service?
You do have the option of having someone take over the line by completing an Assumption of Liability (AOL) You would have to agree to release the line to them and after a credit check, they can take over the line and put it in their name.
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We certainly don't want you leave us. Is there anything we can do to change your mind about canceling the service?
You do have the option of having someone take over the line by completing an Assumption of Liability (AOL) You would have to agree to release the line to them and after a credit check, they can take over the line and put it in their name.
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I read since verizon changed pricing there is a way to get out of contract for free. Only haveso many days from the 1st of july. I can find the link.
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And sorry verizon does not care to loose buisness. I have been with verizon for 10 years 3 phones. I called to see if i could upgrade 3 months early to 4g to keep unlimited and they said no. I let them know i will pull my family off and they do not care! I will find the link to get out if contract for free. Let your supervisor anothef family will be leaving after 10 years. You guys are doing a great job lol sprint here comes everyone from verizon. Verizon is a joke they only rely on their service.
http://www.droidmatters.com/news/wa...-break-free-without-an-early-termination-fee/
This is a older one i seen a recent one i will find it
Verizon cares about breaking root more than taking care of long time customers!
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Why is verizon even on xda
A: to figure oit how to break root and screw us more
B: Damage control since they know they are loosing customers.
Why doesnt verizon worry about putting out uodates to fix issues instead of trying to break root all the time.

Though I have been happy with Verizon for the past 8 years or so, I too may look elsewhere when my contract is up.
Getting too expensive. Baby takes up all my monies. :beer:
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I've only been satisfied with Verizon coverage. However, I've been sick of their constant price changes and lack of software updates (significant ones anyways). Gonna go to Sprint after my contract ends and awaiting the end of the Verizon contract.
Sent from my Galaxified ICS phone! Don't be hating bro!

Where is the verizon rep? Keep reading and get the hint this is not going to help your buisness. But i am sure the other carriers are loving you for sending all your customers away. Verizon has good coverage but everything else is a joke!

I too am looking to give up my 13 year relationship with vzw! The service is good in my area. But the magnitude of corporate greed, slow release of OTAs, and all the other bs is enough to turn my gaze elsewhere! Not that they care!
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For me it's really just about the money, the phone bill is getting out of hand, and I can switch to prepaid phones, with data for a lot less money each month.
and yes, babies do take up a lot of money.

I also want out of my VZW contract. If it were just me I wouldn't care about the price changes... The price difference isn't anything too extreme for me. However, I have my father and my grandmother on my plan -- both of them have basic phones and I only charge them $30 each month TOTAL. Their payment would basically double.
Plus I don't want to lose my unlimited data (even though I don't think I have EVER used over 2GB).
My husband is on AT&T (he desperately wanted the iPhone and didn't want to wait for VZW to get it) so I will probably end up switching unless Verizon changes their new pricing before next September.
The new Share Everything is DUMB. Plain and simple.

jessicahll said:
I also want out of my VZW contract. If it were just me I wouldn't care about the price changes... The price difference isn't anything too extreme for me. However, I have my father and my grandmother on my plan -- both of them have basic phones and I only charge them $30 each month TOTAL. Their payment would basically double.
Plus I don't want to lose my unlimited data (even though I don't think I have EVER used over 2GB).
My husband is on AT&T (he desperately wanted the iPhone and didn't want to wait for VZW to get it) so I will probably end up switching unless Verizon changes their new pricing before next September.
The new Share Everything is DUMB. Plain and simple.
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Are you saying you may switch to at&t to join your husband? If so keep in mind that they don't have unlimited data either.
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Are you saying you may switch to at&t to join your husband? If so keep in mind that they don't have unlimited data either.
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No, I know that. It would just be cheaper for us to be on the same plan by about $20. Since DH is ADAMANT about being able to use talk & data at the same time, I'll end up on his plan. Not my first choice, trust me. My very first cell phone in HS was a prepaid VZW plan. I've been with them now for 10 years with GREAT customer service. I'll be sad to leave.

[Q] AT&T switched my data plan right away

After using my Note 2 for about an hour I got a text from AT&T saying they were switching my data plan because a LTE data plan was required. Previously I had an unlimited data plan. Sure enough, I checked my account online and now I have the 3 gb plan with $10 per 1gb over the limit. How can they do this? I don't want this? What are my options? I specifically bought the Note 2 paying full retail because I didn't want AT&T to know I switched phones. This sucks!!

I am pretty sure the recent fcc agreement with related fines for switching customers or forcing customers from their unlimited plans to limited plans was considered illegal. I would be *****ing up a storm and filing a complaint with the FCC, online. Wouldn't hurt to file an online complaint with the attorney general from your state either.

I had unlimited plan (non lte) which was grandfathered. After purchase of Note 2, noticed that I was put on a 3gb plan. I called AT&T and within 24 hours my unlimited plan was restored.

They switched me to the unlimited lte plan when I switched, att customer service was super helpful, almost too helpful. You might call them and see what they say.
Keep us posted.
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Just spent an hour on the phone with two dumb twits (in India from their accent) of AT&T's customer service department. They said I had an unlimited non-smartphone plan and that they could not upgrade me to an unlimited LTE plan. I mentioned the FCC ruling ( http://bgr.com/2012/11/07/att-fcc-fine-data-plans/ ) but I don't know if people in India even know what the FCC is. Those people on the phone don't give last names or employee numbers so they feel they are unacountable.
I've been using a smart phone for the past 4 years but apparently I was still on the non-smart phone plan. They said because of that they can not switch me over to the unlimited LTE plan. So, what should I do now? I will not stay wit ha limited plan. I'll switch to T-Mobile first. However my AT&T Note 2 will not work with T-Mobile's system I think. Also, I'd rather not switch as its a pain in the ass. I really hope I can get this resolved. Do you think I'd have beeter luck in person at a store?

That doesn't quite add up. How can you be on a non-smartphone plan with a smartphone for 4 years? So what plan did they have you at? And with unlimited data?
Either way, when I switched from my iPhones to the Note II, they had no problem switching my grandfathered unlimited plan to unlimited LTE. What they did tell me is they'd have to register me with a regular LTE data plan during the phone's sale, then they put it back to grandfathered unlimited status at activation, LTE and all.
Did you get the phone online or at the store?

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That doesn't quite add up. How can you be on a non-smartphone plan with a smartphone for 4 years? So what plan did they have you at? And with unlimited data?
Either way, when I switched from my iPhones to the Note II, they had no problem switching my grandfathered unlimited plan to unlimited LTE. What they did tell me is they'd have to register me with a regular LTE data plan during the phone's sale, then they put it back to grandfathered unlimited status at activation, LTE and all.
Did you get the phone online or at the store?
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When I switched from my dumb phone to my smart phone 4 years ago I didn't tell them about it so I guess I was still on the unlimited data for no-smart phones. Well, how stupid they are to think I go through 20-30 GB of data a month without it being a smart phone (I did a lot of tethering during those years).
I bought my Note 2 online. I assumed they wouldn't know about the phone switch since they didn't know about my phone switch 4 years ago. I guess because the Note 2 uses a different frequency they became aware of it that way. Anyway, it shouldn't matter. I was on an unlimited plan before and I think it is not unreasnable to be on an unlimited plan after switching. God how I hate AT&T. I was playing cards with some friends earlier tonight and an AT&T ad came on the TV. I wanted to throw something at the TV so badly!

Outsourced? It's your own damn fault!
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Just spent an hour on the phone with two dumb twits (in India from their accent)
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Never evereverever..never! call after normal business hours and or the weekend, you will get outsourced!...everever..never!!! My granddaughters Kindle Plus (1st Gen) fell victim to the known USB mini port failure,1 month out of warranty. My daughter called after normal business hours Monday..OUTSOURCED!!...ever.never. They told her it would cost her $150 to get it replaced , after a 1/2hr she gave up. She told me what happened, and I told here to call regular business hours. So she did the next day on Tuesday, not outsources, new Kindle Plus arrived this Friday no charge at all. They sent a return label to send the bad unit back within 30 day's. Don't know if you'll have this kind of luck, but from all of my vast past experience with this type of stuff you stand a much better chance calling 9-5 Monday thru Friday. These phone Reps in these far off lands can do the job, but they aren't given the authority to. So be firm but cordial, good luck, God speed, and eat hearty!
Steve,
P.S. ever.never.

SportsFans said:
Never evereverever..never! call after normal business hours and or the weekend, you will get outsourced!...everever..never!!! My granddaughters Kindle Plus (1st Gen) fell victim to the known USB mini port failure,1 month out of warranty. My daughter called after normal business hours Monday..OUTSOURCED!!...ever.never. They told her it would cost her $150 to get it replaced , after a 1/2hr she gave up. She told me what happened, and I told here to call regular business hours. So she did the next day on Tuesday, not outsources, new Kindle Plus arrived this Friday no charge at all. They sent a return label to send the bad unit back within 30 day's. Don't know if you'll have this kind of luck, but from all of my vast past experience with this type of stuff you stand a much better chance calling 9-5 Monday thru Friday. These phone Reps in these far off lands can do the job, but they aren't given the authority to. So be firm but cordial, good luck, God speed, and eat hearty!
Steve,
P.S. ever.never.
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I'm on my phone, so, may I ask where you live? So I can convert time.
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I'm on my phone, so, may I ask where you live? So I can convert time.
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Upstate New York US, Just south of Syracuse New York. Eastern time slot. 11:15pm here.

Go into an Att store. I have been in several where the people are really nice and will help you work through this. If you don't find this to be true, go to a different store and try again. Unfortunately, you might have wasted your money getting the full retail version of the phone. Why not just return it and get one through Att or Best Buy? Mine cost me $175 with the contract extension and I'm happy as can be. As for your true unlimited data, this might be the end of that! Welcome to throttling (but check out the thread on how to bypass the data limit). Whatever you do, don't stop until you've found someone who helps you convert your plan to a grandfathered unlimited one.

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When I switched from my dumb phone to my smart phone 4 years ago I didn't tell them about it so I guess I was still on the unlimited data for no-smart phones. Well, how stupid they are to think I go through 20-30 GB of data a month without it being a smart phone (I did a lot of tethering during those years).
I bought my Note 2 online. I assumed they wouldn't know about the phone switch since they didn't know about my phone switch 4 years ago. I guess because the Note 2 uses a different frequency they became aware of it that way. Anyway, it shouldn't matter. I was on an unlimited plan before and I think it is not unreasnable to be on an unlimited plan after switching. God how I hate AT&T. I was playing cards with some friends earlier tonight and an AT&T ad came on the TV. I wanted to throw something at the TV so badly!
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So you never had unlimited data for smart phones and your mad at att?! You been cheating the system for 4 years and your upset at att?! You have to have smartphone unlimited data to be grandfathered into smartphone unlimited data, it doesn't take rocket science.
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rogerbacon50 said:
When I switched from my dumb phone to my smart phone 4 years ago I didn't tell them about it so I guess I was still on the unlimited data for no-smart phones. Well, how stupid they are to think I go through 20-30 GB of data a month without it being a smart phone (I did a lot of tethering during those years).
I bought my Note 2 online. I assumed they wouldn't know about the phone switch since they didn't know about my phone switch 4 years ago. I guess because the Note 2 uses a different frequency they became aware of it that way. Anyway, it shouldn't matter. I was on an unlimited plan before and I think it is not unreasnable to be on an unlimited plan after switching. God how I hate AT&T. I was playing cards with some friends earlier tonight and an AT&T ad came on the TV. I wanted to throw something at the TV so badly!
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After your explanation, I see now why you were switched. Here's what's apparently happening. Your smartphone before the Note II apparently didn't require LTE or report that it needed it, hence why AT&T gullible-y never realized you were using a smartphone. It's also possible that your smartphone was also on the 3G network only, which is what most non-smartphones use. Although the Note II can run on 3G networks, it would still report to the carrier that it needs access to 4G to 4G LTE networks unless you had told it not to, which seems you didn't within the hour of using it. Of course, you wouldn't have known this since you just got the phone. It also would have told AT&T that your IMEI had changed the moment you put the sim card in, which would have revealed to AT&T that you did indeed have a Note II, hence this situation.
Either way, there's no way around this situation as far as I can see unless you ask them if there's a way you can be considered as grandfathered into regular unlimited data. If you're a long time AT&T user, cite that you've been a loyal customer, but tell them you'd hate to have to go to another carrier over this. You would also need to be under contract.
No offense, and I'm guilty in another form of this in a way, but due to your circumstances, it can be perceived that you tried to cheat the system, which is in no way AT&T's fault, but yours, and you're just upset that you got caught.

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After using my Note 2 for about an hour I got a text from AT&T saying they were switching my data plan because a LTE data plan was required. Previously I had an unlimited data plan. Sure enough, I checked my account online and now I have the 3 gb plan with $10 per 1gb over the limit. How can they do this? I don't want this? What are my options? I specifically bought the Note 2 paying full retail because I didn't want AT&T to know I switched phones. This sucks!!
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If its unlim smartphone data it will be grandfathered if u bought the phone and it was manually swapped. If u have unlim smartphone data and put your sim in an lte device without telling att, the system will automatically add the 3gb plan. Its not made to add unlim even if you have it. If you upgrade at a store online or over the phone with unlim data you will keep it.
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rogerbacon50 said:
Just spent an hour on the phone with two dumb twits (in India from their accent) of AT&T's customer service department. They said I had an unlimited non-smartphone plan and that they could not upgrade me to an unlimited LTE plan. I mentioned the FCC ruling ( http://bgr.com/2012/11/07/att-fcc-fine-data-plans/ ) but I don't know if people in India even know what the FCC is. Those people on the phone don't give last names or employee numbers so they feel they are unacountable.
I've been using a smart phone for the past 4 years but apparently I was still on the non-smart phone plan. They said because of that they can not switch me over to the unlimited LTE plan. So, what should I do now? I will not stay wit ha limited plan. I'll switch to T-Mobile first. However my AT&T Note 2 will not work with T-Mobile's system I think. Also, I'd rather not switch as its a pain in the ass. I really hope I can get this resolved. Do you think I'd have beeter luck in person at a store?
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You circumvented the system for 4 years, and now that has caught up with you..
Deal with it or go to a different carrier...very simple

What phone did you switch to the Note 2 from?
I'm with the guys above, looks like you were trying to beat the system and it caught up to you.
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Go into an Att store. I have been in several where the people are really nice and will help you work through this. If you don't find this to be true, go to a different store and try again. ... Whatever you do, don't stop until you've found someone who helps you convert your plan to a grandfathered unlimited one.
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I will give it another shot of two MOnday and see how it goes.
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So you never had unlimited data for smart phones and your mad at att?! You been cheating the system for 4 years and your upset at att?! You have to have smartphone unlimited data to be grandfathered into smartphone unlimited data, it doesn't take rocket science.
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Until two days ago I didn't know there were two seperate unlimited plans (one for smart phone and one for non-smart phones). The reason I didn't tell AT&T I switched to a smartphone 4 years ago is because I thought I would lose my unlimited data plan. It was not to save $15 a month. I could care less about that. It hindsight I should have told them and been on the unlimited smartphone plan but I was so concerned that they would cancel my unlimited data plan I din't do that.
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Either way, there's no way around this situation as far as I can see unless you ask them if there's a way you can be considered as grandfathered into regular unlimited data. If you're a long time AT&T user, cite that you've been a loyal customer, but tell them you'd hate to have to go to another carrier over this. You would also need to be under contract.
No offense, and I'm guilty in another form of this in a way, but due to your circumstances, it can be perceived that you tried to cheat the system, which is in no way AT&T's fault, but yours, and you're just upset that you got caught.
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Well, I may have cheated the system for $15 a month it turns out but that was not my intention. My intention was only to keep unlimited data. Don't we all "cheat the system" here everytime we do something that the networks don't want us doing with our phones? Tethering, trying to get around throttling, even rooting can be considered cheating the system. I always thought that was part of the spirit of modding and customizing.
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You circumvented the system for 4 years, and now that has caught up with you..
Deal with it or go to a different carrier...very simple
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I like 'circumvented' better than cheated; it sounds less judgemental. Yeah, those may be my two options. If they are, I will choose option 2-- go to a different carrier. In that case, I'll be putting my 3-day old Note 2 up for sale I guess and buying one from T-Mobile.
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What phone did you switch to the Note 2 from?
I'm with the guys above, looks like you were trying to beat the system and it caught up to you.
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I was using a HTC Touch HD. It was a great phone for the time and I installed Dutty's custom rom found on these forums. However a lot has changed in 4 years. I don't like the progress (or lack of it) with Windows and all of my 'must have' programs are now available on Android so making the switch was an each choice (and long overdue).

rogerbacon50 said:
Just spent an hour on the phone with two dumb twits (in India from their accent) of AT&T's customer service department. They said I had an unlimited non-smartphone plan and that they could not upgrade me to an unlimited LTE plan. I mentioned the FCC ruling ( http://bgr.com/2012/11/07/att-fcc-fine-data-plans/ ) but I don't know if people in India even know what the FCC is. Those people on the phone don't give last names or employee numbers so they feel they are unacountable.
I've been using a smart phone for the past 4 years but apparently I was still on the non-smart phone plan. They said because of that they can not switch me over to the unlimited LTE plan. So, what should I do now? I will not stay wit ha limited plan. I'll switch to T-Mobile first. However my AT&T Note 2 will not work with T-Mobile's system I think. Also, I'd rather not switch as its a pain in the ass. I really hope I can get this resolved. Do you think I'd have beeter luck in person at a store?
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A cheater and a Racist. So sick of people like you.

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A cheater and a Racist. So sick of people like you.
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I'm sorry to anyone who misconstrued my remarks. I was upset with the customer service reprezsentative and her thick accent was not making matters any easier. Perhaps that is why I mentioned that she was probably in India. I certainly didn't mean to disparage all Indians and if anyone took it that way I am sorry.
A followup session with a rep today resulted in pretty much the same thing, except they're giving me $50 off my next bill. Really though, by that point I didn't even try that hard. I've decided I'll switch to T-Mobile because, even if I got to keep unlimited data with AT&T there would still be the throtttling issues to deal with each month. T-Mobile may not have the breakneck speed of AT&T (right now) but I don't need 50+ Mb/s.

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Well, I may have cheated the system for $15 a month it turns out but that was not my intention. My intention was only to keep unlimited data.
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I don't know.. AT&T didn't discontinue unlimited or throttled data back then.. You shouldn't have had any issues keeping unlimited data when switching phones unless you wanted to save $15/month.