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Worth getting an incredible now, or waiting for Inc 2?

So I want a new phone.
I found one reseller near me that has 1 incredible in stock. Apprently it's the last one in the entire northeast. I like the incredible, I like the screen, like the size, don't like battery life, don't like no keyboard.
The Inc 2 (Vivo) is coming out soon. The only differences are a 4" screen (dislike, I hate big screen phones), 256 more RAM (no difference, Dinc is fas enough for me), and POSSIBLY better battery life (which would be a plus), don't like no keyboard. Inc2 will also have Wireless charging, but I doubt it will be any good, or portable
Another plus for the Dinc is that it's a "solved problem, root exists, it's been around for a while, there is tons of informaiotn on how to solve practically every concievable issue with the phone. Inc2 will be starting fresh, so ther's waiting for root, waiting for common issues to be sorted out, etc.
So which should I get? I hate the whole "whatever I pick, I'm stuck for 2 years" BS.

Personally I like the Incredible better then the Inc 2. I agree the big screen phones don't look good and not to mention require a man-purse to carry. Also agree that the inc has a huge tech base. All kinds of ROMs and themes. Another deal breaker for the inc2 is the screen is SLCD. I prefer AMOLED on my Dinc. Looks way cleaner and crisper.
My. 02
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Incredibles have SLCD now...
I've had an incredible since the day it came out. (4/29/10)
Its rock solid. With tweaking i can make it two days of mild to moderate use.
But if you want to go for a new phone, go for it. The incredible 2 will have 2 cameras, and a second gen processor. However, it looks plasticky, and its resolution is no better than the incredibles, so the screen, stretched out to 4 inches, will look lower quality. Don't expect great battery life either.
You might be wise to take a look at some of the other Verizon phones, like the thunderbolt, the droid bionic, etc...

The thuderbolt is even bigger than the Inc2. 4.3" is just too big for a handheld device. I have no desire to carry around a dinner plate as my phone. On paper the Shift is the best (3.8" with keyboard) bt the build quality and hardware design are quite frankly crap. Slider sucks, terrible button placement, and a crappy screen.
Anyway, turns out the incredible that store thought they had in stock, they didn't. But Wirefly says they still have some for sale (for free, too boot, since this is a new Verizon account for me) so I'll order that tonight.
Since I'm getting the phone for free, think it's worth spending the $70 for the year long proteciton plan? I'm a little concerned that they don't cover "negligent loss", although I suppose if I do lose it I could always just tell them someone broke into my car and took it.
Let me take this chance to also say you guys are a prety awesome community, I've been frustrted and posted a bunch of whiny little ***** comments, and people still help me. You guys rule

Just ordered in an Incredible 1. Was in the same boat as you and decided that I didn't need all the extras that the 2 had to offer. Seriously, at some point, it is just more gadget that I am going to use (two cameras?).
Best protection you can buy, IMHO, is a good case (I prefer Otterbox, but there are a lot of good options). The deductable on some of those insurance plans will wipe out any value the Incredible may have had anyway.

i think its a dillema
in one think, this incredible allready 1 year old, so it's basically left in feature n tech
more ram I think more great
but if you get a reasonable price for this incredible why not ?
I'm also still use my incredible as my multimedia phone, i love it very much.

If you really want a keyboard, wait for the Merge.
I thought you still had some time left to get a 1 year contract.
Why not buy a used Inc or "like new but never used"? I bought mine on evilbay that way, and it was new, just had been activated and shut off.
You could actually make $ this way. Get a new phone, like the 'bolt, or even the Inc 2, at the contract price, sell it for a good profit, and then buy the Inc on eBay for much less than the new gen phones go for. Plenty of newish Incs to be had.

CJeep said:
If you really want a keyboard, wait for the Merge.
I thought you still had some time left to get a 1 year contract.
Why not buy a used Inc or "like new but never used"? I bought mine on evilbay that way, and it was new, just had been activated and shut off.
You could actually make $ this way. Get a new phone, like the 'bolt, or even the Inc 2, at the contract price, sell it for a good profit, and then buy the Inc on eBay for much less than the new gen phones go for. Plenty of newish Incs to be had.
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Sounds like the best idea. If you reread your OP, everything points to the incredible anyway.
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emkorial said:
So I want a new phone.
I found one reseller near me that has 1 incredible in stock. Apprently it's the last one in the entire northeast. I like the incredible, I like the screen, like the size, don't like battery life, don't like no keyboard.
The Inc 2 (Vivo) is coming out soon. The only differences are a 4" screen (dislike, I hate big screen phones), 256 more RAM (no difference, Dinc is fas enough for me), and POSSIBLY better battery life (which would be a plus), don't like no keyboard. Inc2 will also have Wireless charging, but I doubt it will be any good, or portable
Another plus for the Dinc is that it's a "solved problem, root exists, it's been around for a while, there is tons of informaiotn on how to solve practically every concievable issue with the phone. Inc2 will be starting fresh, so ther's waiting for root, waiting for common issues to be sorted out, etc.
So which should I get? I hate the whole "whatever I pick, I'm stuck for 2 years" BS.
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Honestly for you then I think you just answered your own question. Myself I think 3.7 is a bit too small. I'd like between 4 and 4.3. So the inc 2 will be mine one day...

I just got a Thunderbolt coming from an Incredible (coming from a Fascinate). I don't think say that you can't go wrong with the Incredible. It is solid in almost all areas. I used Juice Defender and then used Green Power while using a stock EVO battery and I didn't have any isssues with battery life. The Incredible has basically the same processor and is very snappy even when compared to any of the newest phones. I bought the Thunderbolt for the 4G speed and the front facing camera. I hardly use the front camera and the 4G speed is fast but I never have a strong signal to really take advantage of it. I use wifi 90% when I need internet so 3g on the Incredible is hardly noticed (3g isn't that bad for most things anyway) The larger screen is really nice and, to the contrary of what others say, doesn't require a man purse- fits in my pocket fine without a problem. However, in sum, I can honestly say that upgrading to a Thunderbolt isn't all that I thought it would be and I would be just fine with the Incredible.

I don't know why you would buy old technology at this point - the incredible is almost a year old. After having the incredible and using it more and more for browsing the net, I wish I had a little bit bigger screen. Maybe not the size of the Thunderbolt but tthe incredible 2 size would be perfect. Also, I upgraded to the extended battery on my incredible because the battery life is unbearable IMO even with root and custom roms. I haven't looked but I'd hope the Incredible 2 will have better battery life.

Finally found someone who had one in stock, wirefly.com had them, and it was free with a new line of service, which I needed (I'm coming from Sprint). So I sprung for the year long protection plan. Phone should be here Wed or Thu. I got 2 weeks to back out if something comes up.

meh... Incredible 2.

Id would go for the Incredible 2. It has a superior processor and more ram. Also bigger screens are not that cumbersome. If my friend who is 4'9" 90lbs and always wears tight pants with small pockets can lug around his Galaxy S all day I don't think its a problem. Also the DInc is being discontinued, after the gingerbread ota don't count on it getting newer versions of android except through custom roms, which will also die down when the devs get their upgrades. Not to mention all the other under the hood things HTC may have overhauled such as the motherbaord.

The 2 is a world phone you might want to get the thunderbolt that has the new sense UI and it'll get 2.3 update before the incredible. I'm on my incredible bow and love it but figure I would give you q little info if your planning on getting a new phone.
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I just got my Inc about a month ago so I'm stuck with it for a while, so far it's worth it to me, it gets the job done.

Incredible 2
I'd wait for the inc2 because of the front facing camera 768mb ram newer 1ghz snapdragon processor and 4 inch display which is a perfect size not to big or small and because it is a world phone and because it will get more updates than the original incredible THE INCREDIBLE 2 might even get the rumored Android Ice Cream Sandwhich which the incredible one will not get and the incredible one might not even get sense 2.0

cvbcbcmv said:
just get the incredible and love it. I have been loving mine. The keyboard is great and with a simple default profile on juice defender, a task killer, and a bump charge from time to time it is fine
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Nnnnnoooooooo task killer....noooo...nnoooooo

I bought my DInc off of CL for 200 back in December, so Im not stuck on a stupid Verizon contract. If you dont care about those things, then wait for a DInc2. My only fear about DInc2 and the Thunderbolt is that it may be severely locked down, which could hamper ROM development.

Thy have their pros and cons but if it is between the Incredible and Incredible 2 I say stick with the original. I2 has some cool extra's (2 camera's) but because the screen is larger and the resolution isn't any higher it won't look as sharp as D1.
If you want a newer phone I suggest the Thunderbolt or the Droid Bionic (that thing looks like it could be awesome!) but if you are fine with the incredible for a cheaper price it is a wise choice.

Question for the Epic Touch Community

Hey guys, so I am due for an upgrade. I am currently using an Evo Shift (i've been an HTC guy for awhile) but I am *really* considering buying the Epic Touch.
Right now, I can get it from Amazon for $86.87, shipped. That is an amazing price! I just have a few questions for you guys:
1) What is your experience with the phone? Love it? Hate it?
2) What does the ROM "community" look like"? I'm currently rocking a really solid build of ICS on my shift and I absolutely love it. In my brief time perusing here, I have not seen any builds for you guys yet?
3) Does anyone have any idea what Sprint has up its sleeve? I know CES is right around the corner and I don't want to buy a phone now and regret it in three-four weeks...
4) Lastly, this device is nearly a year old (if you count it's release in the rest of the world). Even though it is arguably one of the greatest phones you can buy right now, will this last much longer? I know if I always hold out for the "next best thing" I will never end up getting my upgrade...
What are your guys' thoughts? Should I pick this up or wait a bit longer? Right now, if I sent my Shift back to Sprint, they will pay me $88 (essentially making this phone FREE!). Also, since you now have to wait 20 months for an upgrade, that would make this phone essentially three years old by the time I am ready for another upgrade. What do you guys think?
Thanks guys

I also should add that I absolutely despise Touchwiz. I strictly love the AOSP link. Is that on the way soon?
Regards

If you love Aosp, i would honestly tell you to hold off, or go for the Evo 3d.
1. Great phone! Battery life is good for me, very smooth. Signal is a tiny bit worse then my evo 3D. It Wont pick up data in the back room of where i work and the 3D does.
2. The community here, while amazing, is pretty small. We only have partially working cm 7 and mini.
(4G, Bluetooth, GPS don't work on the latest Cm build)
3. I wouldn't worry about it. Otherwise you'll forever be waiting for the next best thing.

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If you love Aosp, i would honestly tell you to hold off, or go for the Evo 3d.
1. Great phone! Battery life is good for me, very smooth. Signal is a tiny bit worse then my evo 3D. It Wont pick up data in the back room of where i work and the 3D does.
2. The community here, while amazing, is pretty small. We only have partially working cm 7 and mini.
(4G, Bluetooth, GPS don't work on the latest Cm build)
3. I wouldn't worry about it. Otherwise you'll forever be waiting for the next best thing.
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Hmm, definitely do not want the Evo 3d. Thanks for your input!

Touchwiz is more understated and with the themes available, i don't even notice. It makes sense look gaudy and old in comparison. Otherwise, Hardware - phone is a straight beast or "Major GO!"

I don't know how you feel about sense, but touchwiz is better imo because it doesn't feel as though it is as deeply integrated as sense was. But I'm with you, I love AOSP but there isn't a fully functional AOSP rom for this device YET.

Sammy will drop one for us. Then I will probably give AOSP a really good go since it would have everything i need. I used to like sense, but that was when I was rocking mattedblues
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I don't know how you feel about sense, but touchwiz is better imo because it doesn't feel as though it is as deeply integrated as sense was. But I'm with you, I love AOSP but there isn't a fully functional AOSP rom for this device YET.
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Someone has ICS on the shift :0 I need to try that.
In all honestly when you put the two side by side like I have its astonishing. The shifts screen is washed out looking and weighs so much more. Not nearly as quick as the epic either.
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Plus its got sense, which is now holding back android
bbedward said:
Someone has ICS on the shift :0 I need to try that.
In all honestly when you put the two side by side like I have its astonishing. The shifts screen is washed out looking and weighs so much more. Not nearly as quick as the epic either.
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bbedward said:
Someone has ICS on the shift :0 I need to try that.
In all honestly when you put the two side by side like I have its astonishing. The shifts screen is washed out looking and weighs so much more. Not nearly as quick as the epic either.
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Yeah zenulator released a beta. Awesome stuff! As for sense, I hate it as well
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So you guys think that a fully working aosp ics will eventually happen? Minus 4G of course. I really want to ditch my Shift but I'm torn as to whether I should do it now or wait for the next big thing... Sigh
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Once sammy releases their version of ICS, i would imagine an AOSP version full supported with/without wimax? would be right around the corner.
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So you guys think that a fully working aosp ics will eventually happen? Minus 4G of course. I really want to ditch my Shift but I'm torn as to whether I should do it now or wait for the next big thing... Sigh
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xlGmanlx said:
Once sammy releases their version of ICS, i would imagine an AOSP version full supported with/without wimax? would be right around the corner.
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Ok. The only reason I ask is because the original Epic (my woman has one) did not even get CM7 or anything AOSP until about a *MONTH* ago.. She went over a year with no AOSP/CM love

If I were you, I'd wait until the first of the year, until after CES at least. I've tried out the Evo 3D, Nexus S, Photon, and Bionic. The E4GT, IMHO, is the best by far. It does everything I need done.....& more. However, rumors abound (& they are just that) that there are going to be some devices shown at CES that blow the E4GT out of the water. One example being the Intel-Samsung Atom powered ICS smartphone. I would at least see if you are at least interested in any devices coming out of CES, before locking yourself into another 2 year contract.
As for me, I got my E4GT for only a .01¢ from Amazon Wireless, & I am quite happy with my decision, wether we see ICS or not. I am good for 2 years, & by then, who knows, we'll probably see Android 5.0 or even 6.0.
Good luck in whatever decision you make. Happy Holidays.
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Touchwiz is a almost entirely just the launcher and a very unobtrusive set of extremely minor modifications, almoste entirely cosmetic. You can easily delete the touchwiz launcher apk and are as close to vanilla Android as you can get from one of the big handset makers.
As far as this years cycle is concerned? I think we won't see another great contender for the real next generation until June at the earliest. Though we will likely see a Sprint version of the GNx it will also likely be in that time-frame...and whether that phone is obviously better than the ET4G is highly debatable.
So far as Sprint's lineup is concerned this is the best phone of the year. The Evo4G easily took at last year. Our development community has really ramped up pace and there are tons of great ROMs, kernels, mods and hacks. We don't seem to have the merciless onslaught of developer support that the flagship HTC devices get--or any GSM devices for that matter...but...things are looking good.
I think we will definitely see ICS sooner than later. I feel the same about a stable, full function AOSP. The EVO3D didn't get a CM7 alpha until 3 months after release...and it was very alpha. We don't have 'official support' from CM (we've been told that the idea isn't off the table but don't hold your breath), but, I think we will eventually pick up it. This phone isn't the same last-minute hack-job the OG Epic was, which supposedly wasn't even intended to be Android until the last few weeks of development.
...if we don't get CM? That might suck a little, but, this phone is so goddamned fast and smooth and nearly feature-complete that I really won't be that heart broken. Contrast that with the same situation on an HTC? Bahahaha, night and day.
I had a Moment, Hero, Evo4G, NS4G and 3 (yes 3) Evo3D's...this phone, hands down, slaughters all of them in overall user experience. My ET4G also has a much better radio than all 3 of my Evo3D's....The screen is just disgustingly beautiful...battery life is the best I've had on Android.
If you can wait 6 months to use your upgrade? Of course, do that. That will provide the best bang for your buck...but...if you can't? This is the phone to get, especially if you've flatly rejected the Evo3D as a contender--and I wouldn't blame you one bit for that decision.

Im coming from an EVO 4G, and I just used my moms upgrade to get the E4GT on Amazon for $99 (now $79). I just got it Monday, and all I have to say is.....GET THIS PHONE!!!!

dw3bb10 said:
Im coming from an EVO 4G, and I just used my moms upgrade to get the E4GT on Amazon for $99 (now $79). I just got it Monday, and all I have to say is.....GET THIS PHONE!!!!
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Yeah I saw the touch for that price earlier today. Do you know if it Is going to stay that price for 3-4 weeks or is this a temporary special?
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My personal opinion is that this phone and the Galaxy 2 linup is by far the best choice out there save perhaps for the Galaxy Nexus. Although the Sprint version seems to be vastly overlooked. but that is changing, people are noticing and i believe that the dev community will grow very quickly soon especially with HTC losing ground everyday so AOSP shouldnt be to far away. But give the touchwiz 4.0 a shot it might surprise you, if not go with Launcher Pro! or ADW EX, problem solved!! BTW GS2 was voted phone of the year!

To put it simply you don't have any other choice on sprint for a phone unless you an iPhone guy. Every other android phone on sprint besides the nexus s (because it has ics now runs awesome) is junk. Sense, blur, and touchwiz all suck like really suck. Touchwiz sucks the least. But it still sucks.
Now that ics is out I only suggest a nexus or don't get android unless there are a sop rooms for it.
If your on a shift this phone is like a major upgrade just get ics theme and its amazing. If you can get this phone for 86 dollars that's a np brainer
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The camera and sensor alone make this a top tier phone let alone the screen and a nice update to touchwiz. Add in a custom theme and growing development and there isn't much to like about this phone.

[Q] Epic 4g touch or Nexus S4g

Hi to you all, hope your enjoying your holidays.
So i signed up for sprint and got a Nexus S4G for free (only paid taxes). Am very happy with the phone, i really like the curve design and the size fits my hand pretty good. Overall am satisfied with the service(Coming from Metro, ha)
But i been lately thinking exchange it for an Epic 4g Touch, whats kinda holding my back its the size of it, and the square form of it. And well besides paying the 199+tax. and i cant really tell if all of it LOS issues have been fixed with the current updates.
Is it worth upgrading to the epic? how good does it feel in your hand and pockets? Did the current upgrades really fix the issues is it really worth the 199+tax
Thanks for all you guys input.

I am in the same quandary but my concern is the poor audio quality of the sg2 versus the excellent rating of the nexus, which can use the voodoo sound kernels. Also the nexus will get more software rom support. On the other hand, the sg2 screen is stunning, storage is better and speed can't compare.
Guess there is no perfect device

I have both phones and both have their good points. Obviously there is more development on the NS4G but you can run the Epic Touch stock and be totally happy. The update seemed to solve the LOS issue for a good majority of the people that were having problems. I use PowerAmp that has an EQ so I am happy with the music quality but this phone will not have Voodoo support. The screen on the Epic Touch is obviously better. The battery lasts almost twice as long for me. The phone is big but after you get used to it, it feels perfect. Using the on-screen keyboard is much easier. I find myself flashing every new ROM on my Nexus because I am constantly looking to improve it but I am very content with my ET4G setup. The Nexus is a hell of a phone as well. If you are worried that you wont be happy with the Epic Touch, you will be. If you're asking if its a worthy upgrade, that's up to the user. Feel free to PM me with any specific questions and I will get back to you. Oh, running aosp's ICA 4.0.3 v43 on my Nexus and strongsteve's odexed blue 12/24 build on my Epic Touch
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Quick input on your concerns:
1. LOS is no longer an issue. It was a huge problem with custom kernels in previous releases, but EK02 seems to have resolved as well as the subsequent no-CIQ update.
2. The large form factor of the SGS2 may be intimidating at first, but you quickly get used to both the large dimensions and huge screen. I came from an Epic 4G and this was one of my concerns too, and in retrospect, it probably shouldn't have been.
3. Dualcore + 1gb RAM makes a huge difference if you're a poweruser. Never having to deal with coming back to an app that was closed automatically (Opera is a big victim of this) is invaluable IMO.
In the end, all the small differences are a wash, and it comes down to hardware vs software. One has ICS and the other will get it later than it should.
FWIW, I have two new E4GT's and I'm looking to trade one of those for a Nexus. ICS has a large amount of undeclared value IMO.

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Quick input on your concerns:
1. LOS is no longer an issue. It was a huge problem with custom kernels in previous releases, but EK02 seems to have resolved as well as the subsequent no-CIQ update.
2. The large form factor of the SGS2 may be intimidating at first, but you quickly get used to both the large dimensions and huge screen. I came from an Epic 4G and this was one of my concerns too, and in retrospect, it probably shouldn't have been.
3. Dualcore + 1gb RAM makes a huge difference if you're a poweruser. Never having to deal with coming back to an app that was closed automatically (Opera is a big victim of this) is invaluable IMO.
In the end, all the small differences are a wash, and it comes down to hardware vs software. One has ICS and the other will get it later than it should.
FWIW, I have two new E4GT's and I'm looking to trade one of those for a Nexus. ICS has a large amount of undeclared value IMO.
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I will trade my Nexus for one of your ET4G's! I am sure you will have no problem making that deal. My Nexus can handle 1540 overclock (unlike most people's) and is loaded up with ICS and TWRP 2.0 with ICS theme. PM me if you are serious about that deal.
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Naxxx89 said:
Hi to you all, hope your enjoying your holidays.
So i signed up for sprint and got a Nexus S4G for free (only paid taxes). Am very happy with the phone, i really like the curve design and the size fits my hand pretty good. Overall am satisfied with the service(Coming from Metro, ha)
But i been lately thinking exchange it for an Epic 4g Touch, whats kinda holding my back its the size of it, and the square form of it. And well besides paying the 199+tax. and i cant really tell if all of it LOS issues have been fixed with the current updates.
Is it worth upgrading to the epic? how good does it feel in your hand and pockets? Did the current upgrades really fix the issues is it really worth the 199+tax
Thanks for all you guys input.
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I wouldn't buy another samsung device unless it was a nexus. Samsung abandoned the original galaxy s just one year after release. Not everyone can afford a phone off contract one year in.
That said, the nexus s is already a year old, and it would be reasonable for Google to eol it next year. I would honestly consider the evo 3d or the iPhone 4s at this time. Apple typically supports their phones for 2+ years and it is a new device. The evo is Sprint's equivalent of Verizon's DROID branding, so it will be supported for a reasonable amount of time as well.
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I wouldn't buy another samsung device unless it was a nexus. Samsung abandoned the original galaxy s just one year after release. Not everyone can afford a phone off contract one year in.
That said, the nexus s is already a year old, and it would be reasonable for Google to eol it next year. I would honestly consider the evo 3d or the iPhone 4s at this time. Apple typically supports their phones for 2+ years and it is a new device. The evo is Sprint's equivalent of Verizon's DROID branding, so it will be supported for a reasonable amount of time as well.
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Was looking to avoid apple but was thinking the same

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Was looking to avoid apple but was thinking the same
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was truly thinking the same myself. i'm not a apple fan but i'm on the brink......even a guy i know with a old 3gs is getting software updates.............

I have two ns4g and my epic touch as well. I love my ns4g and I'm running ics on it now. Awesome phone. But I couldn't get Rid if my epic touch. The phone is a beast and is the best phone available. No other phone can beat it in CPU and gpu power. It won't happen until a quad core comes out. In the end though its your choice. If $200 bucks is alit of money for you then keep the ns4g. Its an awesome phone. Good luck
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What phone would you get?

Title basically says it all. If you are eligible for an upgrade, what phone would you get and why?

The new samsung galaxy s3 because i think the performance of the new exynos quad core processor would be great......like the old exynos on the galaxy s2
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I would also go for the Samsung Galaxy S 3. However, I would like to have a Rezound until then
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Galaxy Nexus for me. Hackability, perfect size, Nexus!

Owning a rebound I can tell you it is a great device. But the battery life is not the best, about 9 hrs moderate use ( the extended battery helps a lot but is bulky). The American version of the galaxy S3 will not have a quad core so I would recommend the rezound or nexus. Both great devices obviously the rezound has sense which I love but if your not into then the nexus would be your best bet.
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Why I would go Nexus over Rezound:
-development/hackability
-screen
-thinness
-AOSP device
-battery life (people who complain about it on nexus use stock battery and/or aren't rooted)
-software updates

I still wouldn't mind Galaxy Journal. Shame it's being released so late
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Inc4g lte if it has the same camera tech as the one series.

Amphibliam said:
Why I would go Nexus over Rezound:
-development/hackability
-screen
-thinness
-AOSP device
-battery life (people who complain about it on nexus use stock battery and/or aren't rooted)
-software updates
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I actually agree with what you say. The next phone I'm getting is most likely a Nexus (assuming Samsung is making it of course) unless Verizon screws us over and ditches the next Nexus. Otherwise I'm going with a GSIII or the iPhone.
"All of those bacon strips"

gsm nexus, or iphone. i can't stand the Android skins.

What would be even better it's if HTC got the next nexus device. Rumor is they were talking to google about it for jelly bean.
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if it was a choice of any phone out in verizon's current inventory (assuming i was burning an upgrade and paying vzw's prices...)
i wouldnt take any (which is why i havent)
reasons i wouldnt take: (all just my personal opinion, not remotely trying to influence anyone...everyone has their own likes/dislikes/needs)
nexus:
i like having the option of (insert oem skin) and aosp
radios are a bit iffy (most samsung devices are)
would get bored of swapping just between aokp and miui4
i personally wouldnt have anything to do for it
battery life is mixed (some report great batt life with kernels, others on same kernels disagree so meh)
rezound:
no working aosp, nor any aosp devs that (i think) can get ril worked out anytime soon
500 of the exact same sense roms
still officially on gb
battery debacle of the different voltage batts
not much for me to do for it (put out more of the same sense roms?)
(insert motorola device)
i wont buy motorola on principle
i hate blur so much it might as well not be an option for me
lg spectrum:
lol, i had to put this in here...no one bought it
future phones?!
certainly a lot for consideration, but too many unknowns to commit to one right now
sgs3:
even though its very likely that the verizon version (if indeed there is one) ships with a dual core s4 chip rather than quad core exynos, that would be ok in my book
a lot depends on pricepoint, actual release date (if it launches in september or something forget it), and the other developers that commit to it (if a billion others do, ill pass rather than do the same stuff they do)
and lets see what other things verizon does it to it (form factor change, etc)
galaxy note (journal):
more unknowns
is it launching? if so, when? (summer is too late for its q4 2011 specs)
is it really launching with gingerbread ?!?! (it would be a no buy just based on that, given samsung/vzw's terrible history with updating skinned sammy phones..or even the gnex for that matter)
inc 4g/inc3/inc lte/whatever its called:
ill *most* likely pick this device up assuming that
battery life is decent
will it have htc dev unlock support? (att one x doesnt seem to)
will the latest s-off for htc phones work with it? or is the chipset a no-go
i can find it on wirefly for around $200 on contract (not paying $300 on contract for it)
similar camera to the one series
i like the 4.0 inch screen size, and qhd is a nice bump in resolution
s4 processor w/ qhd res *should* lead to very good performance
native full sense 4 and ics is nice
native ics devices *should* be easier to get aosp working on, as its been speculated that the ril situation should be better than native gb phones (who knows though)
rumored htc note competitor:
umm, lets see how big it is really
how much it costs
how is battery life?
is it really going to have sense 5? what the heck is sense 5 lol
will it have htc dev unlock support? (att one x doesnt seem to)

Nit you pretty much summed up my thoughts on the Inc4G. I'd like to see what official cost is and if it's not too bad I may try and score one off contract. I was finding Nexus and Rezounds going for 200-300 on ebay barely used.
I'd skip the Nexus because honestly it seems like it's been pretty lackluster compared to expectations people had for it. I also am not a fan of the whole ICS Holo theme which is why I'm so drawn to Sense4.
SGIII did absolutely nothing for me. The press conference was boring and it looks like just another run of the mill Galaxy phone. Touchwiz is also horrid and really ugly.

nitsuj17 said:
if it was a choice of any phone out in verizon's current inventory (assuming i was burning an upgrade and paying vzw's prices...)
i wouldnt take any (which is why i havent)
reasons i wouldnt take: (all just my personal opinion, not remotely trying to influence anyone...everyone has their own likes/dislikes/needs)
nexus:
i like having the option of (insert oem skin) and aosp
radios are a bit iffy (most samsung devices are)
would get bored of swapping just between aokp and miui4
i personally wouldnt have anything to do for it
battery life is mixed (some report great batt life with kernels, others on same kernels disagree so meh)
rezound:
no working aosp, nor any aosp devs that (i think) can get ril worked out anytime soon
500 of the exact same sense roms
still officially on gb
battery debacle of the different voltage batts
not much for me to do for it (put out more of the same sense roms?)
(insert motorola device)
i wont buy motorola on principle
i hate blur so much it might as well not be an option for me
lg spectrum:
lol, i had to put this in here...no one bought it
future phones?!
certainly a lot for consideration, but too many unknowns to commit to one right now
sgs3:
even though its very likely that the verizon version (if indeed there is one) ships with a dual core s4 chip rather than quad core exynos, that would be ok in my book
a lot depends on pricepoint, actual release date (if it launches in september or something forget it), and the other developers that commit to it (if a billion others do, ill pass rather than do the same stuff they do)
and lets see what other things verizon does it to it (form factor change, etc)
galaxy note (journal):
more unknowns
is it launching? if so, when? (summer is too late for its q4 2011 specs)
is it really launching with gingerbread ?!?! (it would be a no buy just based on that, given samsung/vzw's terrible history with updating skinned sammy phones..or even the gnex for that matter)
inc 4g/inc3/inc lte/whatever its called:
ill *most* likely pick this device up assuming that
battery life is decent
will it have htc dev unlock support? (att one x doesnt seem to)
will the latest s-off for htc phones work with it? or is the chipset a no-go
i can find it on wirefly for around $200 on contract (not paying $300 on contract for it)
similar camera to the one series
i like the 4.0 inch screen size, and qhd is a nice bump in resolution
s4 processor w/ qhd res *should* lead to very good performance
native full sense 4 and ics is nice
native ics devices *should* be easier to get aosp working on, as its been speculated that the ril situation should be better than native gb phones (who knows though)
rumored htc note competitor:
umm, lets see how big it is really
how much it costs
how is battery life?
is it really going to have sense 5? what the heck is sense 5 lol
will it have htc dev unlock support? (att one x doesnt seem to)
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100% agree here.
I have an upgrade, I'll either, use my upgrade on the inc4g, and/or sell the Rez/trade for inc4g.
(this is assuming it has htc-dev unlock).

well I saw the announcement of the inc 4g..it cought my attention for sure. the OG inc was my first android phone, then I filed insurance claim nd got an inc2. Love em both. I didn't root until recently (2 months ago) and its really extended the life of the device in my eyes. So, I will probably wait to see what can be cooked up with the new inc with roms, ect.
Having worked at verizon stores and dealing with all the phones, I can honestly say that I would never own a samsung device....their phones just feel like cheap pieces of plastic.
The moto razr is a very nice looking phone, but having a sealed battery compartment kills it for me. Hopefully the new inc doesn't have that.
Also, in my experience, everthing lG makes is pretty much garbage...
So HTC and moto in a distant second for me personally.
I'm eligible now, and before I rooted I was ready to jump on the rezound...but I really like the 4" screen, and could care less about beats audio.
Since I rooted I realize that I can wait a little bit longer. I Would really like to see vzw get the one series here, but it sounds like those quad cores aren't playing nice with the LTE radio.

andybones said:
100% agree here.
I have an upgrade, I'll either, use my upgrade on the inc4g, and/or sell the Rez/trade for inc4g.
(this is assuming it has htc-dev unlock).
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Is the Rez not that good? I'm sitting on an upgrade as well. But I'm in no hurry to part with my Inc2. was looking at the Rezound a little though.
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jman42028 said:
well I saw the announcement of the inc 4g..it cought my attention for sure. the OG inc was my first android phone, then I filed insurance claim nd got an inc2. Love em both. I didn't root until recently (2 months ago) and its really extended the life of the device in my eyes. So, I will probably wait to see what can be cooked up with the new inc with roms, ect.
Having worked at verizon stores and dealing with all the phones, I can honestly say that I would never own a samsung device....their phones just feel like cheap pieces of plastic.
The moto razr is a very nice looking phone, but having a sealed battery compartment kills it for me. Hopefully the new inc doesn't have that.
Also, in my experience, everthing lG makes is pretty much garbage...
So HTC and moto in a distant second for me personally.
I'm eligible now, and before I rooted I was ready to jump on the rezound...but I really like the 4" screen, and could care less about beats audio.
Since I rooted I realize that I can wait a little bit longer. I Would really like to see vzw get the one series here, but it sounds like those quad cores aren't playing nice with the LTE radio.
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The OG Incredible was my first Android too! It was the perfect intro to Android. I had the original Samsung AMOLED screen, which was much nicer than the SLCD version (imho) so it was gorgeous, and was easy to root. I flashed so many roms on that phone. I'm really surprised I didn't wear out the nand chip. I traded that phone for a Fascinate, with which I had a love-hate relationship. That's where I really learned how to use ADB. I won an LG Revolution from Phone Arena a couple months later, which was okay, but the way that phone was coded together, it was impossible to do anything with it. Plus, is was LTE, so it didn't have working AOSP. No devs ever got the phone, so its development situation was a little lacking. I traded it for my DInc2 about a month after I got it and I've had this phone since August. I've been so much happier having an HTC again. After Sammy and LG, I've been confirmed in my OEM of choice. It's not like Moto is going to sway me. Haha
I pre-ordered the Evo LTE yesterday, as I'm jumping to Sprint. I got bumped off my contract by family because they wouldn't give me the billing account password after they changed it, so I couldn't pay my bill over the phone anymore. They told me I had to drive down 45 minutes every month to pay them, which I couldn't do because I had lost my car in an accident that wasn't even my fault. It sucked. I lost my unlimited data plan.
If I were still on Verizon, I'd be jumping for joy that the Inc4G is a One S variant. The One S outperforms the S4 version of the One X a bit because it's qHD, not 720p. Plus, 4" is the perfect screen size. I don't think I'm gonna like the 4.7" screen on the Evo LTE at first. I'll get used to it, but damn that's a huge phone.
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hoodieNation said:
Is the Rez not that good? I'm sitting on an upgrade as well. But I'm in no hurry to part with my Inc2. was looking at the Rezound a little though.
Sent from my Incredible 2 using XDA
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i wouldnt use an upgrade on a 6/7 month old phone running an older s3 processor...but thats me

Does the S3 processor have that much of a huge difference then a S4 processor. Does it even matter since in about 3 months a S5 processor will come out. I remember when the S3 processor came out everyone was so hyped about how amazing it was, and now look at the way people talk about it...

jakob95 said:
Does the S3 processor have that much of a huge difference then a S4 processor. Does it even matter since in about 3 months a S5 processor will come out. I remember when the S3 processor came out everyone was so hyped about how amazing it was, and now look at the way people talk about it...
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well thats point, i wont buy something thats already older and tie myself for 20 months to it
and the thing with sense devices is that they historically a wasteland for dev support when another huge one comes out...so id bet you ll loose most of the rezound developers come the fall if verizon launches something that much better
now thats not to say other (new) devs wont step in, like the og inc and evo 4g saw...but stll
buy what you want obviously, but thats my take on things

iPhone 4 owner thinking of getting the GN.

Hey there. I currently use the iPhone 4 on Verizon. I tried android before and had a Samsung Fascinate for about 10 months before switching to iPhone. The main reasons I switched were speed, efficiency, and a streamlined appearance. I needed a phone that just worked. The fascinate was beautiful, but it was laggy, stuck on 2.1 for FAR too long, and riddled with bloatware (BING, UGH!). I've been looking at the Droid Incredible and Droid 4, but they both seem lackluster. I DON'T want the Galaxy S3, I'm done with Touchwiz and rooting to get rid of it. The Nexus is a bit older now, but only $50 on a contract extension.
So, Nexus owners, do you love your phone? Would you buy it again? And is it worth it to upgrade to one now? I'm a little android-curious and I want to be assured that this phone is a winner!
Also, I'm used to wonderful battery life on my iPhone 4 (light use about 1.5 days). Can the GN compare?

hoclem24 said:
Hey there. I currently use the iPhone 4 on Verizon. I tried android before and had a Samsung Fascinate for about 10 months before switching to iPhone. The main reasons I switched were speed, efficiency, and a streamlined appearance. I needed a phone that just worked. The fascinate was beautiful, but it was laggy, stuck on 2.1 for FAR too long, and riddled with bloatware (BING, UGH!). I've been looking at the Droid Incredible and Droid 4, but they both seem lackluster. I DON'T want the Galaxy S3, I'm done with Touchwiz and rooting to get rid of it. The Nexus is a bit older now, but only $50 on a contract extension.
So, Nexus owners, do you love your phone? Would you buy it again? And is it worth it to upgrade to one now? I'm a little android-curious and I want to be assured that this phone is a winner!
Also, I'm used to wonderful battery life on my iPhone 4 (light use about 1.5 days). Can the GN compare?
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I love nexus to d core ... goin with 27h battery life with 3.24h of screen on
sent from jElly Belly NeXus PrimE

Can definitely get a good day or two with light use out of the Nexus, everyone's idea of light use differs though.
I've previously owned an iPhone 4. Got to say, with Jellybean you get the same snappy OS feel minus the restrictions.
The camera isn't as good indoors, but much faster and outdoors pic quality is about the same.
If you want an Android device, then it is the one to have IMO.

hoclem24 said:
Hey there. I currently use the iPhone 4 on Verizon. I tried android before and had a Samsung Fascinate for about 10 months before switching to iPhone. The main reasons I switched were speed, efficiency, and a streamlined appearance. I needed a phone that just worked. The fascinate was beautiful, but it was laggy, stuck on 2.1 for FAR too long, and riddled with bloatware (BING, UGH!). I've been looking at the Droid Incredible and Droid 4, but they both seem lackluster. I DON'T want the Galaxy S3, I'm done with Touchwiz and rooting to get rid of it. The Nexus is a bit older now, but only $50 on a contract extension.
So, Nexus owners, do you love your phone? Would you buy it again? And is it worth it to upgrade to one now? I'm a little android-curious and I want to be assured that this phone is a winner!
Also, I'm used to wonderful battery life on my iPhone 4 (light use about 1.5 days). Can the GN compare?
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The Nexus is without question the best android experience you can get currently. The only problem I had with Ice Cream Sandwich was the lag when using live wallpapers but Jellybean fixed that problem. Honestly smoothness of the Nexus with Jellybean is on par or slightly worse than the iPhone. If I was to get a phone right now I would definitely pick up the Nexus especially at 50 dollars, that said however I would personally wait a few months for the new Nexus phone/s to be announced.

Do it. You got plenty of time before the next Nexus will be unveiled. Absolutely marvelous device. I get a days worth out of the phone with maybe a short charge in the middle of the day. /rant begins: Plus why would anyone want over a days worth of charging?!?!?! Don't you have a charger right next to your bed or charge it at night when you're not awake?!?!?! Really I don't understand.../rant over...kinda..
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nexicon said:
Do it. You got plenty of time before the next Nexus will be unveiled. Absolutely marvelous device. I get a days worth out of the phone with maybe a short charge in the middle of the day. /rant begins: Plus why would anyone want over a days worth of charging?!?!?! Don't you have a charger right next to your bed or charge it at night when you're not awake?!?!?! Really I don't understand.../rant over...kinda..
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I love the Galaxy Nexus. The biggest downside is the radio--it blows. It is close to seven months since release and none of the software radios have improved the signal quality significantly.
I was at a backyard BBQ this weekend and I couldn't get enough signal to access the internet with the phone. Right next to me was someone with the Bionic and another with the Thunderbolt, both on Verizon. They were both able to get enough bars (one) to access the internet. Here I am running JB and a nice custom kernel but unable to do anything meaningful with the phone in that backyard. GN fails all the time to grab signal where it should. I spent a lot of time inside of restaurants inside bars, clubs, people's houses without signal. What's the point of having the phone?
As for battery life, you have to change the mindset coming from iPhone with a sealed case. Batteries cost $4 each from China. I keep a few in my pocket when I go out. I typically do one or two battery swaps when I go out for the evening.
I'm wedded to this phone for now. I were in the market for a new phone, I would get the nicest Android phone with a replaceable battery that can be unlocked with a strong developer community. Whether the SIII or One X fits that bill, I don't know.

4 days on nexus and without JB it lags coming from S2 i9100.
on JB it rocks, really loving it.
only 2 issues....
no native T9 dialer, using ex dialer donate and plugins to fix the issue and looks
volume of the external speakers sucks, listening youtube videos is hell. (no solutions yet)
i like stock only so custom roms are out of question

For the price its a great device. I enjoyed it a lot. I upgraded to the GS3. The GS3 has all kinds of hardware upgrades over my GN but it also cost more. The camera upgrade is big. 2GB RAM is nice too. But for the price the Galaxy Nexus has some nice things going for it.

atifsh said:
4 days on nexus and without JB it lags coming from S2 i9100.
on JB it rocks, really loving it.
only 2 issues....
no native T9 dialer, using ex dialer donate and plugins to fix the issue and looks
volume of the external speakers sucks, listening youtube videos is hell. (no solutions yet)
i like stock only so custom roms are out of question
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Solution- download volume + (sound boost) from play market.
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using Tapatalk 2

Well as someone who had the iPhone 4s and then moved to the Galaxy Nexus I can say without a doubt that the gnex is the best phone I've ever owned. This phone is a tinkerers dream.
I easily can get a days use with juicy defender (7am-11pm 35%). I will say that the iPhone 4 has better battery than the gnex or the 4s for that matter but then you're buying outdated hardware that will get a watered down version of iOS6 when it gets released while with the gnex you get the latest unrestricted OS.

If you're only experience with Android is the Fascinate, you'll love the GNex or S3. If possible, get the GSM Nexus.

You mentioned you didn't like rooting and such on your original Fascinate...honestly if you aren't about taking advantage of the massive development available on the GN, there isn't anything to recommend it over a GS3. Touchwiz is better these days (I'd still toss it for straight google experience, though). But all indications are that samsung is taking care of it's baby now, and trying not to be the bad mother of the GS1 days.

I have a 4s and its back in its box for now... the nexus with jelly bean feels like a brand new phone no joke. I loooove it!
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus

Man, I recently ditched my atrix 4G about a month ago for the gnexus and I'm so glad I did. I had bought my gf the 4s for her birthday, and I'm not gonna lie- after playing around with her phone then going back to my buggy/laggy atrix, I started considering switching to the iPhone for stability. Most android phones at the time were the 'new phone of the month' crap, and although I love the functionality of android, I ultimately wanted a stable phone that would be updated to the newest OS whenever there was a release.
Before throwing in the towel, I gave the galaxy nexus a shot. This thing rocks. No lag, great dev community, first to be upgraded when there is a new os upgrade, great camera and screen size/resolution.. etc etc. This phone will not let you down, trust me man. Coming from a guy who also would turn down the Galaxy s3 for the same reason, I advise you to go android. Go android, and go whatever Google's flagship phone is. If possible, I'd hold out until Google releases their new Nexus device(s?) so you can have the latest and greatest.
I'm here to answer any questions you've got.
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using xda app-developers app

I agree the GNex is the best android phone, and it is best for customization, especially when coming from iPhones.
However you also mentioned you want something that just works. Unfortunately nothing beats the iphone in this category. GNex is a high maintenance phone. From day to day task (getting find my phone to work, typing in different languages), to managing an os update. I am still struggling with issues after jellybean upgrade.
Also, Google now sucks compare to siri. It doesn't extract info from contact, ie. does not know who I am or who is my wife, her phone number. Finally I really missed imessage. Most of my friends are on ios, almost no one use Google+.
In my opinion, stay with your iPhone if you want it to just work. But get a GNex if you are bored of ios and want to tinker your phone.

evil_penguin said:
Solution- download volume + (sound boost) from play market.
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Doesn't work on jb buddy
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atifsh said:
Doesn't work on jb buddy
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I know ..developer is working hard to make it work with jellybean:thumbup:
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Definitely get the nexus. I got mine three days ago and love it. I also bought the wife an iPhone Friday. Side by side the nexus wins hands down...without even turning them on lmao.
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The nexus is a great phone, 4.1 is very very smooth, however I'm going to go against the grain here, because of your comment "It just needs to work". The nexus is on the bleeding edge of android and sometimes problems DO crop up and can take a while to fix and in rare cases be pretty crippling (Nexus S search bug on the i9020a for example). If you can live with little quirks or willing to get your hands dirty and try to fix them yourself, then by all means get this phone, if you want something 100% trouble free, you might be better to stay with the iPhone.
The nexus however does provide you with a bloat free experience, and if you like to tinker, then it's the best choice available. I'm never sure if the verizon variant is properly supported in AOSP, if you have the option, get a GSM version (yes this means going with someone other the version) and get the phone from the play store to make sure you don't have a samsung regional variant (yakju/takju)
Best of luck on your decision.

I spent quite a while playing with my friends iPhones and when I walked into Verizon I was pretty much set on getting one because they do just work. They dont bug up, they dont lag, they just do as you ask. But I also realized how no matter whos phone I was using I felt like I was using just anyones phone. They all kind of felt the same even though people had different wallpapers and what not. I just did not get the feeling everyone had their own unique device and I like having the ability to stand out. When I went into Verizon, they never even brought the I phone out. They put the Droid 4 (which I also asked for) the GNX and the LG Enligten. As soon as they took the Nexus out of the box I was impressed. It was the right size, the screen was fantastic (I thought I wouldnt mind the screen size difference from iPhone to Nexus but I do and I cant stand to use the small iPhone screen now) I got double my data, double the memory, faster cpu. Everyone in the store said they wished it was out when they were considering their next phone so I jumped on it. At first I was a bit annoyed with ICS and its laggyness. Do yourself a huge favor, get JB and load a good kernel and from an interface perspective it dusts the iPhone for me. The only thing I wish worked better is the reception. And that is a huge core feature. I just cant tell if its a radio software issue or a antenna issue. It seems some people have fixed their phones with flashing new radios but it may just be a patch on an underlying problem. Even with that I still have no regets passing on the iPhone.