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you want to create something revolutionary that everybody will want to use, yet you don't know what it is and you are asking for ideas :/
if you truly want to do something for WM community, don't waste your time on yet another home screen or shell replacement. We have plenty of those already.
Create a framework so that other developers could code apps around. Make that framework flexible, look good, light and fast. Maybe even extend .NETCF35 with a new UI widgets.

michaelwood16 said:
I am one of the thousands of users who are getting tired of WM. It's old, clunky, slow and there's no games. I am writing to tell everyone, i will be creating a new user interface for the windows mobile platform. TF3D is ok in my books, so is the today screen. SPBs software is by far the best but it needs a lot of work. I am looking to make something revolutionary that will make them iphone users want to switch to WM lol. What i am trying to do is make something everyone will want to use. Because of this i need your help to get an idea of what are some of the things you would like to see in such a program. Also throw me some names i can call this thing. Thanks for reading.
P.S. I will upload some pictures of what i have in mind later.
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This is hilarious.
Just buy a different phone and leave. I don't really want to be associated with a phone dominated by games and farting apps. And I don't really think professionalism is anything close to this:
Interests
Phone, Cars, Drums, Woman
Occupation
Outta work right now
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LOL
The above post is a joke lol. Bet he can't make his woman happy. Second i am 16 so what do you want it to say? I have my own company and make millions? I just thought it would be nice to have something i wanna use. I avoid my tp2 if i can. I upgraded from the original so i can say they both suck. I worked very hard to get them phones and wm just keeps letting me down and down again. all i want is a flippin nice music player. That's it, i can't even find that so yeah I'm gonna make my own. So what at least i can do something like that. Can you?

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You think of one thing to change and people go nuts. Y dont you go make the framework. I shouldn't have to if i already can make everthing work the way i want it. I have made games that blow NFS underground, asphalt, clear outta the sky. They are awesome. I look at the crap that i see come outta here and a laugh. Funny part im 16. Put that in your pipe and smoke it!!!!!!!!!!!!1
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Pics or it didn't happen.

This made my night. Thanks......

If your claims are legitimate i also would like to see some screen shots as well as some of the features of this new "item"...
If you really are planning on implementing a "new user interface for the windows mobile platform" I suggest a name appropriate for something of this nature, The Genesis Project!

Supertrooper said:
This made my night. Thanks......
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Meh. Needed more cowbell.

khaytsus said:
michaelwood16 said:
You think of one thing to change and people go nuts. Y dont you go make the framework. I shouldn't have to if i already can make everthing work the way i want it. I have made games that blow NFS underground, asphalt, clear outta the sky. They are awesome. I look at the crap that i see come outta here and a laugh. Funny part im 16. Put that in your pipe and smoke it!!!!!!!!!!!!1pen.
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Pics or it didn't happen.
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LOL this gave me a good laugh. Then I pulled up his post history and found this:
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I AM SICK OF HAVING NO GAMES TO PLAY ON MY $400.00 BRICK OF A PHONE. i AM WOUNDERING HOW TO CREATE SOME 3D GAMES. I NEED HELP IN THE CODING. DONT POINT ME TO SOFTWARE FOR 2D GAMES OR FLASH AND A JAVA. THANKS FOR YOUR HELP IN ADVANCE.
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That's amazing... A 16 year old who just over a month ago was asking HOW DO I SHOT -- ehh, I mean -- WRITE CODE? is already writing games that blow triple A titles like NFS Underground away. Meanwhile, I'm 17 and I can only write Java or C# apps for smartphones. Now I feel under-accomplished. :[
Oh yeah, also, please lrn2English. Thanks.

michaelwood16 said:
all i want is a flippin nice music player.
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Why, then, did you buy a phone?

godefroi said:
Why, then, did you buy a phone?
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This thread is hilarious. The 16-year old wants to revolutionize Windows Mobile without knowing code and without knowing what to do. And his motivation? More 3D gamezzzz!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Please give the phone back to your father.

Pretty sure this is Krenisis
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=591392

Plenty of high school/teenagers post here -- nothing wrong with that. Some contribute helpful solutions and even maintain threads.
Still...it is kinda funny when anyone proposes a big project and then it turns out that all they have is a vague concept -- without the means to carry it out.
And yeah, isn't "a flippin nice music player" called an "iPod"?

MCbrian said:
Plenty of high school/teenagers post here -- nothing wrong with that. Some contribute helpful solutions and even maintain threads.
Still...it is kinda funny when anyone proposes a big project and then it turns out that all they have is a vague concept -- without the means to carry it out.
And yeah, isn't "a flippin nice music player" called an "iPod"?
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Nothing wrong with his age, but his approach is a bit off.

Now thats bad
Omg you don't think i know what i want. I know what im doing. I have the plans all drawn out so yeah. I was seeing if people wanted things that were missing from the home screen or tf3d. Something that could make life a lil easier. So yeah i have started the fun part right now.

Yeah about that
MCbrian said:
Plenty of high school/teenagers post here -- nothing wrong with that. Some contribute helpful solutions and even maintain threads.
Still...it is kinda funny when anyone proposes a big project and then it turns out that all they have is a vague concept -- without the means to carry it out.
And yeah, isn't "a flippin nice music player" called an "iPod"?
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I DON'T WANT AN IPOD WHEN WE CURRENTLY HAVE THE TECHNOLOGY SITTING IN OUR POCKETS. THAT'S WHY I BOUGHT A PPC. iM JUST SAYING I HAVEN'T FOUND A NICE PLAYER (AND I'M SORRY BUT THE IPODS IS NOTHING SPECIAL).

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nothing wrong with his age, but his approach is a bit off.
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my approach sucks because i'm am terrible at writing. I know what i want but its putting it down on paper that's my issue.

you're still here?

Y would i leave
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you're still here?
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im not gonna stop because a bunch of 40 year old people have nothing better to do than bash me. So yes im still very here (im under ur bed right now).

Here is where you belong...
http://discussions.apple.com/index.jspa

[Q] Any proper Dev's here? Fancy a small challenge ?

*sigh*.. It's like asking for permission to ask a question. You'd be best off asking here directly.. Developers tend to have different strengths and weaknesses

Tehpriest said:
Looking for someone to put together a small app for me
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You should at least describe what kind of app is that

If I were to say openly then it would give someone else the opportunity to make the same app and the Dev (if there is one) who would agree to make it wcould lose out even if only on the credit for making it.

Im guessing in order to get help you can't automatically presume that most developers are d*cks who steal ideas from other people.

Now you are putting words into my mouth. Not really helpful that. Though the vast majority are not there is always a small number who plagiarise as is seen in the market. Now may I thank you for your comments as I await an answer.

I'm guessing you wont pay them either? I think developers might be reluctant if they feel that after hearing it, they might get in trouble for deciding they wont go ahead (I've been in that situation before)

As a developer... what? I have no idea what you're on about.
If you want a developer you need to:
1. Make available information about what you want developed.
2. Pay someone (a reasonable sum), or have a genuinely interesting project. The later being substantially less likely than the former.

Yeah...even if I pm'd you for information, and then decided I can't proceed on developing it... isn't it the same? I would have heard your idea anyway, so you're better off saying it directly. ;-)
Or... you could apply for a patent on it if you fear there are lots of thieves here lmao
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OK thanks for all the replies I will put my idea to a Dev forum that welcomes them.

Guys, please try and keep this on-topic without resorting to flaming the moment I close this tab.
@OP, XDA is all about sharing and working together to achieve common goals. As a result, developers here tend to work best when others can get involved. This kind of post pops up now and then, but these ideas usually end up unfulfilled due to the lack of information available.
And remember this is people's hobby, not necessarily their job, so most people aren't about to commit to making an app when they have no idea what it is. If it's not interesting to them, they likely won't want to do it.

awww sulky wulky. Hey any devs wanna build an app for me? I'm selling it but won't pay for it, and have no way of supporting it further down the line? No? Didn't think so. Flan.

Tehpriest said:
OK thanks for all the replies I will put my idea to a Dev forum that welcomes them.
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How would you know if the developer that you share the idea will not simply use it for his own profit?
This is xda-developers (a developer community) and I never heard about a case of stolen ideas here.
If you'd like to find some help implementing an idea, you should at least describe the developer profile, technologies,...
i.e. I'm looking for a developer to build a simple 2D game that connects to a website to load pictures using http protocol.... No previous experience required, All source code should be sent to me and I'll share the profits.... please PM me for details.
You can try rent-a-coder and, for a fee you have your idea implemented.
Your arrogance is not welcome here pal.
Good luck with your idea.

I make a post offering to give someone my idea for an app that if they can make they can do what they like with and I get flamed for it. I am not a Dev, I am very new to Android OS. I see a need and think someone may find it easy to meet that need so try to make it known so an individual may even if the want profit from it. And for this I get called arrogant and told I am not welcome.
And as for the trolling I will not comment.

Tehpriest said:
OK thanks for all the replies I will put my idea to a Dev forum that welcomes them.
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good luck, you won't find any! you come here asking for someone willing to do some stuff for you you won't tell them about before they agree to do it? lol! why should ANYONE agree to that. i, for one, am not interested on this conditions. also, this here (xda & android) is about community development, open source and therefore open ideas where everyone can profit.
if you wan't to sell the app then hire some dev for 20$/h but then you are indeed @ the wrong place here. otherwise just tell everyone about your idea and IF it's interesting, some people might pick it up...

Go and ask an iPhone dev if you wanna behave like that...not because youd fit in being a wanker but because they're much more commercially minded. It's funny in your original post you kinda imply most people working in this section and putting out material are not 'proper devs'. This is xda and this is open...people suggest apps all the time and people make it for free and maybe include ads or small charge to cover there costs, see lag fix, noled and galaxy s sim unlocker on market. You can be like the idea makers from there and just go 'that covers my needs and it's cool' or you can merrily skip along to an iPhone dev who is all profit.

Tehpriest said:
I make a post offering to give someone my idea for an app that if they can make they can do what they like with and I get flamed for it. I am not a Dev, I am very new to Android OS. I see a need and think someone may find it easy to meet that need so try to make it known so an individual may even if the want profit from it. And for this I get called arrogant and told I am not welcome.
And as for the trolling I will not comment.
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So let's make it clear: you are offering the dev the idea and if he realizes it, all profits would go to him? He will publish it and everything? So why don't tell it straight away, if it's interesting someone will do it. Even if 2 or 3 people do it, there will be 2 or 3 apps for the same purpose. So what? How many im clients or gps navigation software are on the market, and still coming out? Do you think only one of them is getting money and the others don't? Users also like to have choice...
However you should at least tell what kind of skills are required? 2/3d gaming? Databases? Web connection? Kernel hacking? I think even if you aren't a developer yourself it shouldn't be difficult answering these questions... at least you are selecting potential candidates... that would be the minimum requisite for posting such requests, how can I know if I could do it if I don't even know what skills are required? Not all developers have the same background you know...
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Tehpriest said:
OK thanks for all the replies I will put my idea to a Dev forum that welcomes them.
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Well that's just the problem. You haven't put your idea to this forum.

I bet it was a clock widget.

Guys,
This one has gone way off topic based largely on assumptions which is very unfair on the OP.
Closing this now.
WB

Tehpriest said:
If I were to say openly then it would give someone else the opportunity to make the same app and the Dev (if there is one) who would agree to make it wcould lose out even if only on the credit for making it.
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You are not going to dev it by the sounds of it, so it is really not up to you to keep such a project closed, isn't that exactly what you are asking to happen anyway? ( have another dev make it for you. )
You are coming on a forum, asking if any dev is willing to work on a secret project... ?
If there is money involved, and thus a reason for secrecy, do mention it.
ebbhead said:
I bet it was a clock widget.
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More like a pink flashlight.

Why you get short/one word answers! (The Long Answer)

I wrote this to explain to the new users why they might get what they consider short or bad answers... when really they aren't!
First off, this is meant to be a basic guide for basic understanding, there may be things that are slightly wrong or not completely accurate (to some experts) but this is for BASIC UNDERSTANDING and not meant to bash or flame any ideas, beliefs or operating systems. If anyone wants any more information they will know how to find it.
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Why you get short/one word answers!
A lot of users here are sometimes confused, disgruntled or scared off by confusing short -sometimes one word- answers.
I thought i would take some time to explain. And it will take time. For the short story go down to the bottom. Sit back and get ready to understand why you feel you aren't understanding something........
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The Long Answer
This is also a common problem with new users in linux forums. This is no co-incidence! It is not that the more knowlegable members are ignorant, short, or rude. They just speak in quick short answers to help you (help yourself).
Why you get short or one word answers!
Let me start on Linux. I personally am not a user, but i have researched it. It is not for me personally, it does not have the features I need or support some of my fancy hardware. Dont get me wrong, Linux is a Great alternative for many users, beginner or advanced. I would consider installing Ubuntu (built on Linux) for my friends parents or grandparents! And anyone else that likes the way iOS is built but doesn't want Apple. But Linux is LOVED by programmers! Why ? Because its Open Source software.
What is Open Source?
Open source software is written "un-compiled" meaning anyone can "open" up the program, read it, learn how it works, or edit it***
How can you legally edit someones program and use it yourself?
GPL General Public License - the linux kernel and many other things are licenced under this.
Basically it is the opposite of copyright, meaning everything under the licence is free, and can and must be able to be read, edit and be re-used to what ever means the other party wants, as long as what they do is under the GPL as well. So any program that works with GPL software, uses code or ideas from GPL software (no matter how small), shares programming libraries with, ect.... MUST BE FREE and OPEN SOURCE. This can be messy for people that want to make money off certain ideas and software.. But,... its all in the name of freedom. Lets just leave it there.
What does any of this have to do with Android?
Android is built on a Linux derived kernel, most of the code for the famous android kernel came for linux! so.... GPL.... so... Open Source!
**This is why android app developers ask you to "donate to" not "buy" their app.** Its a Google Android / GPL thing.
So why do programmers like Linux and or Open Source?
They like it because they are constantly learning and curious! With Linux or any program/software that runs on/with/for Linux they can learn how it works! Better yet, if they want their program to do that, all they have to do is copy and paste it from where they saw it first, then edit it to their own means.
How programmers think:
Im curious about "X"....
Im going to search for "X" where i think im going to find it
I found it! I like it,
Hmm what is this in here? What is "Y"??
Im going to search for "Y"
NO!?! I ll ask a buddy programmer....
He told me "Z" just... "Z"
Im going to search for "Z"
OH!! that makes sense!!!!
Im going to use that!
See a common trend? Search, learn, search, ask, search, learn, search, ask , search.
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In programming this leads to the thinking, "Why type something again if its already been typed? - I can copy and paste!!!"
Similarly:
In forums and helping others it leads to thinking "Why type something that has already been typed? - If you search "X", you find something that has already been typed and i dont have to copy and paste it or find it for you!!!. " Search this word.....
On top of that, programming code uses many "short forms", "broken words" and "gibberish" that makes a lot of sense when you know what it means. This results in thinking in short terms that mean a lot (to them)!
Closing
As said above its not out of being rude or elitist, its a way of thinking.
-That way of thinking is a part of programming, and leaning anything in that world, you have to learn the way of thinking. >
-Part of the learning to think that way is getting fed up and saying "Im just going to find out myself!!" >
-Then, by the time you learn how to find anything you want to know on your own, you have an epiphany and realize they were telling you "exactly what you needed to hear". They were the Oracle and you are Neo. The Matrix has you, and it was all about the journey!
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The short answer as promised!
If they give you one word > search that word. the information is out there already probably many times over!
Why re-write it again for you?
Start with searching the website you are at. (might want to add a second word to help narrow searches EG. for xda would be your device name or OS)
Next search google! - i know its new but it looks promising!
Wikipedia is good too!
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Reason #2 we are replying from the XDA APP! - Get XDA Premium App to support XDA!
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I hope this helps some people understand what is going on and why they feel left out.
see also...
XDA NEW USERS GUIDE
and...
A Plead to the members of XDA..
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What is XDA??
originally posted by kyphur:
I think what a lot of people forget is that this is not a "make my phone neat & kewl" place.
As implied by the name this is technically a Developers forum/community.
Now what does that mean? Well first off it means that there is an expectation that if you are here then you want to customize your device but rather than just installing something that someone packaged you want to understand how it works and maybe even enhance it yourself.
When I first came here with a Blue Angel it was a different environment. PDA Phones were not embraced by the general public because of the expense and complexity (I paid over $400 for my BA). A $400 phone 4 years ago was expensive, today the Tilt is $300 after rebates but with inflation & the rise in the cost of other devices and the fact that there are other sources out there giving them away for $150 our neat bit of kit has become popular with mainstream users.
Now we have a flood of new users who are asking not "How can I do this myself?" but more like "Give me the quick fix" without caring to understand the process. See if you read the threads then you get to experience the learning process, you see how the issues were investigated and confirmed. Then you get to watch the different attempts at resolution and learn why some failed while others worked. That is called Development.
The NooB backlash is coming from users who have walked in the development shoes and is directed mainly at those who don't care for the journey but just want the end result or destination.
As a Development Forum we are just as much (if not more) about the journey. I've read so many comments like "I don't have time to read all of the threads" or "I don't care how it works, just that it does". These very statements are contrary to the heart & soul of XDA-Devs and that is why the backlash is so strong.
Let me be very clear on this: IF YOU DON'T CARE ABOUT UNDERSTANDING THE JOURNEY THEN YOU PROBABLY SHOULDN'T BE HERE IN THE FIRST PLACE.
XDA-Devs is about developers & hackers helping each other and working together to get the most out of our devices by understanding them better than most.
XDA-Devs is not about helping everyone who wants a "Kewl bit of kit" make their phone better than the guy next to him.
Now do we go kicking users off who never contribute anything, NO. We tolerate it to an extent. Where the toleration ends is when these users start diluting the usefulness of the forum by repeating the same questions over and over again.
You ask us to understand your position. Well if you want to benefit from our experience and time then I think it is only fair that you understand our position.
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well said...........

Sorry to be a downer, but you misspelled "First off"

Not anymore its not :
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you sir ... just earned your 200th thanks for writing this, this should help out both newcomers and us vets tyring to help them at the same time. awesome.
HAPPY 200!!

studacris said:
you sir ... just earned your 200th thanks for writing this, this should help out both newcomers and us vets tyring to help them at the same time. awesome.
HAPPY 200!!
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+1
Thanks alot Tru!! That's gonna (hopefully) save us so much time

Well said. I am new to these forums but have come close to jumping threw the monitor at the ones that say "just tell me" in answer to "search is your friend".

The best post I've seen for a while, many thanks.
Now, how to get everyone to read it?

A very good thread =) and hopefully helpful to all

TRusselo said:
Reason #2 we are replying from the XDA APP! - Get XDA Premium App to support XDA!
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EXACTLY. I cannot tell you how many people have asked me "what is with the typos", or "why so short, u mad bro?", even when at the bottom of the post, it clearly states "Sent from my Cliq2 using XDA Premium App"

Very nicely said. I know I've joined the right forum now!!

This is so true, I'm not a Dev, but I am a technician, and we techies think the same way.
Also, off topic, but ya gotta love that movie reference.
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They were the Oracle and you are Neo. The Matrix has you, and it was all about the journey!
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u r the king

Thanks......why won't it let me use a one word post though. lol

crit71 said:
Thanks......why won't it let me use a one word post though. lol
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To stop n00bs posting useless posts everywhere saying "thanks". There is a thanks button for that.

TheATHEiST said:
To stop n00bs posting useless posts everywhere saying "thanks". There is a thanks button for that.
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That is the second greatest post I've ever read on XDA, the first was the OP, which is getting added to my sig.

newbie says thanks
can't click the thanks botton 7 more posts to go.

Wish I could've hit the thanks button many times!!!
Great post sir!
Tapashocked via my gt-I9003 with a random keyboard of my choice !
Tapashocked via my gt-I9003 with a random keyboard of my choice !

Great post to help a new user. The info on searching when you get a one word answer is great advice.

Nice write up! Missed this one somehow but your spot on, especially when it comes to the use of the search button.
Added a link to my sig too and spanked your thanks button.

HTC Super Unlocking tool

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1343114
works on widlfire s apparently.
I sold mine but though you guys might like this
Edit :: apologies GSM users this will not work on your Wildfire S
Feel free to delete this thread

Doesn't work.

Tools
l00k said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1343114
works on widlfire s apparently.
I sold mine but though you guys mihgt like this
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I had spied that awhile ago. Finally tested it marvelc side; didn't work except for the desensing/resensing. That works from all indications.
I also found an apk on the market I've mentioned a few times that does root/unroot; It's called un-Rooting [and the subtitles are in a language I can't read; but it works marvelc side][anyone care to test it gsm side?]; busybox [installer] also available on market. I've found market apps to be easy advice.
As for gsm'ers only known tool [still] to work is the xtc clip; which is a small hardware device one can order for around $40; Simonsimon34 has the latest s-off guide for marvelc.
Alquez's cwm works on both cdma & gsm
Thought I'd drop mention of these tools again.
Rob
PS I found a really useful market app that was started here on xda.. ZDbox I got to find the thread and thank the developer, but it has battery percentage/status & power-saver, task killer, app uninstaller/management [inc Apps2sd], and System Cleaner [cache & history]. Can replace 4-5 apps with this one. Good good end-user tool.

Another misleading thread. l00k, please ask a mod to delete this.
It's already proven that it doesn't work on GSM phones.
The Wildfire S is already full of information on how to s-off CDMA phones.
There is no need to confuse more people.
I guess I can speak on behalf of all WFS GSM users. Please delete this. PLEASE!
Who created the Super Tool and who posted a thread about it on XDA should first confirm if the information is correct. It DOESN'T work on Wildfire S except CDMA versions.
In case you still didn't get it, this is NOT directed to you. It's a general complaint:
It's incredible that so many people post things just because somebody says it works.
Wouldn't it be smarter to confirm first and post after? I'm not talking about you, l00k.
I'm really tired of reading the same crap over and over again, including the people that almost want to force us to buy a XTC Clip. Some say it isn't rocket science because we can sell it after using... but maybe some people just don't have the time, patience or money to do that. It's easy to talk about ourselves. I guess some people should learn how to walk in other people's shoes.

A simple "Doesn't work on GSM" would of done the trick.
You don't get S-OFF for being a ****
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l00k said:
A simple "Doesn't work on GSM" would of done the trick.
You don't get S-OFF for being a ****
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Are you happy now that you've insulted someone that didn't disrespect you?
Congratulations for your smart post. Seriously! I love when people are rude and unpolite. It just shows their character.

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Are you happy now that you've insulted someone that didn't disrespect you?
Congratulations for your smart post. Seriously! I love when people are rude and unpolite. It just shows their character.
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*sigh*
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l00k said:
You don't get S-OFF for being a ****
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Seriously dude. Migualca is anything but that.
One of the most supportive and helpful people around here...Behind myself of course. LOL jk
I think an apology would be in order.

Look guys... this dude read something and posted it to try and be helpful. Don't throw stones at him just explain.
Sent from somewhere too far away from my computer

question
Although this thread is a repeat and will get deleted because... well if you read it, its just not what xda is about. Even so, I will ask a gsm'r does this tool seem to perform only zerg-rush, desense and resense like on cdma side? Or does nothing work, differences? It does not work for root cdma side, unroot fails, and the methodology is different so I doubt it would s-off on our side. I will contact the developer to specify partial functionality with WFS but no s-off (upon gsm analysis confirmation). Discuss.
Rob

benjamingwynn said:
Look guys... this dude read something and posted it to try and be helpful. Don't throw stones at him just explain.
Sent from somewhere too far away from my computer
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Nobody threw stones at him in the first place.
I explained why this thread should be removed and also took the opportunity to talk about other annoying habits. I think it's pretty clear I wasn't referring to l00k, so I really don't understand why he replied that way.
It seems that he accepted the general criticism as it was directed only to him.
Thanks to d33ps1x for his support. I try my best to help the community and suddendly I get called a ****...
How about an apology instead?
This kind of thread leads to nothing but legacy again...

d33ps1x said:
Seriously dude. Migualca is anything but that.
One of the most supportive and helpful people around here...Behind myself of course. LOL jk
I think an apology would be in order.
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I apologised in my initial post to GSM users but I wont apologise for my reaction to what was in no way a supportive and useful reply from Migualca. In fact its the most annoying thing anyone has ever said to me since joining these forums backl in 2006. Tact is a wonderful thing (jk)
Anyway this was posted to help and I genuinely do hope you guys get your software S-OFF. I've still got my blacklisted wildfire S and would be willing to rip its guts out testing tools like this to help.

d33ps1x said:
Seriously dude. Migualca is anything but that.
One of the most supportive and helpful people around here...Behind myself of course. LOL jk
I think an apology would be in order.
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Besides already having clicked "thanks" I felt the need to express my gratitude for your post.
You are also very supportive and helpful, the kind of user XDA needs.
There is one thing on earth that I don't tolerate to ANYBODY: lack of respect/education. That's why my motto is: don't disrespect others if you don't want to be disrespected.
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l00k said:
I apologised in my initial post to GSM users but I wont apologise for my reaction to what was in no way a supportive and useful reply from Migualca. In fact its the most annoying thing anyone has ever said to me since joining these forums backl in 2006. Tact is a wonderful thing (jk)
Anyway this was posted to help and I genuinely do hope you guys get your software S-OFF. I've still got my blacklisted wildfire S and would be willing to rip its guts out testing tools like this to help.
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A smart sentence that you should embrace too.

miguelca said:
Nobody threw stones at him in the first place.
I explained why this thread should be removed and also took the opportunity to talk about other annoying habits. I think it's pretty clear I wasn't referring to l00k, so I really don't understand why he replied that way.
It seems that he accepted the general criticism as it was directed only to him.
Thanks to d33ps1x for his support. I try my best to help the community and suddendly I get called a ****...
How about an apology instead?
This kind of thread leads to nothing but legacy again...
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I only read the first and few last posts. It saves a lot of time. I myself pm'd the mod of this forums asking him to move it back. He did. Look at the wfs to legacy post
Anyway. Sorry if I miss understood the argument. I just saw one man trying to defend himself
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Someone brave enough?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1416015
This may work.

miguelca said:
Besides already having clicked "thanks" I felt the need to express my gratitude for your post.
You are also very supportive and helpful, the kind of user XDA needs.
There is one thing on earth that I don't tolerate to ANYBODY: lack of respect/education. That's why my motto is: don't disrespect others if you don't want to be disrespected.
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A smart sentence that you should embrace too.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irony

Guys, sry but pls stop it.
As much as i can see both of you told things that could be spelled another way
Miguelca i know, your pissed (sry for the bad spelling, but i think it hits the point) on, because you thought there finally is a way for gsm users to s-off their device without xtc and you where disappointed once more, but because of this it shouldn't be delteted, it should be marked like others with cdma only. I know it's hard and i also know you done much for the community, but try to be happy for others that they got one more option, i'm sure there will come a way for gsm users finally.
And 100k, sry but your rudness wasn't correct and your really should apology for it, there are other ways to tell such things than such a bad language.
At this point Miguelca is right, you should bring more respect to others, if he tells something that you think it's not true or should be handled another way, express it in a normal way not like you did. It's much more constructive and others can accept it or/and discuss it with you, but like you did they get angry and things get badder not better, so pls be patient next time and tell what you want to tell as smooth as you can.

Tectas said:
Guys, sry but pls stop it.
As much as i can see both of you told things that could be spelled another way
Miguelca i know, your pissed (sry for the bad spelling, but i think it hits the point) on, because you thought there finally is a way for gsm users to s-off their device without xtc and you where disappointed once more, but because of this it shouldn't be delteted, it should be marked like others with cdma only. I know it's hard and i also know you done much for the community, but try to be happy for others that they got one more option, i'm sure there will come a way for gsm users finally.
And 100k, sry but your rudness wasn't correct and your really should apology for it, there are other ways to tell such things than such a bad language.
At this point Miguelca is right, you should bring more respect to others, if he tells something that you thing it's not true or should be handled another way, express it in a normal way not like you did. It's much more constructive and others can accept it or/and discuss it with you, but like you did it they get angry and things get badder not better, so pls be patient next time and tell what you want to tell as smooth as you can.
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Don't worry tectas. This is definitely my last post about this bad soap-opera.
l00k doesn't care to reread my first post and doesn't want to admit that there is a part he must have overlooked or misunderstood. Some people want to be always on top, even when they have no arguments and need to use rude language. Just one simple conclusion: l00k wrote 212 posts since September 2006 and got 9 thanks. I'm here since June 2010, wrote 114 posts (before this one) and got 51 thanks.
I rest my case.

Tectas said:
Guys, sry but pls stop it.
As much as i can see both of you told things that could be spelled another way
Miguelca i know, your pissed (sry for the bad spelling, but i think it hits the point) on, because you thought there finally is a way for gsm users to s-off their device without xtc and you where disappointed once more, but because of this it shouldn't be delteted, it should be marked like others with cdma only. I know it's hard and i also know you done much for the community, but try to be happy for others that they got one more option, i'm sure there will come a way for gsm users finally.
And 100k, sry but your rudness wasn't correct and your really should apology for it, there are other ways to tell such things than such a bad language.
At this point Miguelca is right, you should bring more respect to others, if he tells something that you think it's not true or should be handled another way, express it in a normal way not like you did. It's much more constructive and others can accept it or/and discuss it with you, but like you did they get angry and things get badder not better, so pls be patient next time and tell what you want to tell as smooth as you can.
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I think you are right about not deleting the posts like this and renaming them. If other posts hadn't been deleted (and I did search on the subject before posting) then I would have seen it was cdma only.
Sorry for calling you a **** miguelca it wasn't very nice and I should have elaborated a little more as to why your comment and comments like them annoy me so much. I don't spend much time in the wfs section anymore I saw the article in an rss feed from another android site and thought about you guys. I saw no other posts about the unlock tool so thought i'd share it. Seeing as this site is international and this section is not just about gsm phones it is a valid thread. Try not to jump on people so quickly.
FYI the thanks button hasn't been there since the dawn of time.
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l00k said:
I think you are right about not deleting the posts like this and renaming them. If other posts hadn't been deleted (and I did search on the subject before posting) then I would have seen it was cdma only.
Sorry for calling you a **** miguelca it wasn't very nice and I should have elaborated a little more as to why your comment and comments like them annoy me so much. I don't spend much time in the wfs section anymore I saw the article in an rss feed from another android site and thought about you guys. I saw no other posts about the unlock tool so thought i'd share it. Seeing as this site is international and this section is not just about gsm phones it is a valid thread. Try not to jump on people so quickly.
FYI the thanks button hasn't been there since the dawn of time.
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I already said that I wouldn't post again about this subject but now I have to.
l00k, thanks for publicly admitting that your comment wasn't very nice and for apologising. I appreciate your gesture.
You didn't explain why I annoyed you so much with my words and that's why I didn't understand the reaction from your side.
Thanks for your intention to help this community and sorry for jumping so quickly on you with a "hard" comment.
As you know a big part of my post wasn't directed to you, but I get the idea...
In the future I will try not to "jump on people" so quickly.
Oh and BTW I know the thanks button isn't available since the beginning.
This was just a way to show you that in general my comments are well accepted and also thanked for. No regrets. Peace.

How to create an app.

Hi there
I am not sure if I posted on the right area but I am trying some days now to find out how can I develop an app idea.
I am not familiar with these kind of things.
Anything to propose? Is there any kind of trusty companies out there where I might be able to have a deal?
Any help will be appreciated.
Sorry for my poor English.
Regards
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Btw...
I am pretty sure that this idea will sell or it will be used by millions people.
I might be looking very sure about it but believe me there is nothing like that on Web right now and for sure it will make people of all ages to have fun with it.
So if you know any trustful companies to point... Please do it.
Thank you in advance
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First, wrong section. This forum is only for those that have something to contribute to development, ROMS, kernels, tutorials and what not. Questions belong in [email protected]
Edit, looks like it got moved. :thumbup:

Look on XDA tv.. There are tutorials on how to make an app..

Leoniums said:
Btw...
I am pretty sure that this idea will sell or it will be used by millions people.
I might be looking very sure about it but believe me there is nothing like that on Web right now and for sure it will make people of all ages to have fun with it.
So if you know any trustful companies to point... Please do it.
Thank you in advance
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I can tell you with certainty that no developer will make this for you without significant money up front.
Your only good option is to make it yourself. Learn the language.
Also, wrong forum.

I am not looking for a developer!
I didn't asked for free help!!!
I already mentioned that I wasn't sure if this is the right section!
And for sure I am not going to learn on this age how to make apps lol.
I only asked if anyone knows a trusty company for such things.
Thank you.

Leoniums said:
I am not looking for a developer!
I didn't asked for free help!!!
I already mentioned that I wasn't sure if this is the right section!
And for sure I am not going to learn on this age how to make apps lol.
I only asked if anyone knows a trusty company for such things.
Thank you.
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1. He is just saying that it will cost cash, not that you want it for free.
2. You are
3. Use your common sense. Better yet, read the damned rules.
Never make the excuse you don't know where to post. If we could learn where to post, you could also learn. And you most definitely not going to find a company who does not develop but also help you make this app. I'm guessing since of your slightly off english you want an app, you have an idea, yes? If you don't know how to make an app, you must request for the services of someone else to make it for you. So you ARE asking for a dev, or a company of the sorts who develop and market apps. Also, you might not be asking for free help if you want someone to make an app, maybe you do want to pay them. He is just pointing it out. Its like paying a construction company to build a successful resort but not paying them. And make it yourself its not extremely difficult to learn coding and application making (except when it comes to more complex examples, i.e. an app with A.I. or a game which rivals the likes of shadowgun). If it is simple, make it yourself. If the idea is complex, well make sure you got some serious cash before asking a company to do it for you.
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Also, you are very very oooffff on the forums. A normal newb or even a n00b would post in general or general q and a. But you are the idiot that posts in a device forum, which has nothing to do with your idea? That's just straight up pathetic.
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iKoolkid said:
you most definitely not going to find a company who does not develop but also help you make this app.
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I am not looking to hire a developer to make an app, i am looking to find a company who will hear my idea and can develop it
iKoolkid said:
I'm guessing since of your slightly off english you want an app
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I think my slightly English are good enough for you to understand what i mean... after all you made such a reply!
iKoolkid said:
Its like paying a construction company to build a successful resort but not paying them.
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I would like to let you know that if an idea is good enough, then even construction companies investing on samples etc.
iKoolkid said:
And make it yourself its not extremely difficult to learn coding and application making (except when it comes to more complex examples, i.e. an app with A.I. or a game which rivals the likes of shadowgun). If it is simple, make it yourself.
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First of all isnt a simple app, and therefore i dont have the necessary skills to create an app. Is like i am asking "you" to buld a production line for coca cola bottles which for me its easy....
iKoolkid said:
If the idea is complex, well make sure you got some serious cash before asking a company to do it for you.
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Thats what i am looking. As for the money do not "worry" about it.
iKoolkid said:
Also, you are very very oooffff on the forums. A normal newb or even a n00b would post in general or general q and a.
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You are right but it was 2 late when i thought about it.
iKoolkid said:
But you are the idiot that posts in a device forum,
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At least there are smart people like you. Afterall we cant be all the same right?
For the end, I didnt want to be mean or something with my previous reply. I just wanted to make clear what i am looking for.

Best I could tell you aside from what's already been mentioned is to look for a prominent developer (one known for quality and good support) on one of the app stores, who has similar apps or seems to deal with the type of stuff people who would like yours already use.
Once you've found one or a few, research them, check their website, and if comfortable with them, initiate contact and ask to be put in touch with someone about an app idea you have that they may like to hear about.
If you make it that far it's up to you to sell them on yourself and your ideas.
Good luck with it.
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If you are satisfied with the answer then, I suggest you put a [solved] in the title. And yeah lol. Sorry bout being a little angry about that.
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I would love to hear more opinions though
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Leoniums said:
I would love to hear more opinions though
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Try contacting a company as they said. We could suggest you some if you give us the broad topic of it, not exact idea, since you know how things like this could play out.
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